When Atheists start becoming major Communists again in the mainstream

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Atheist governments killed hundreds of millions in the 20th century making it the bloodiest hundred years in human history. Not only that, but in the history of war only a very small percent are religiously motivated. Most happen in the name of something else entirely.

It just goes to show the grass isnt really greener on the other side. Its worse.

Im sure whoever this person is woulda made a fine SS officer. His profile sounds like the type of person they recruited.
 

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The sentiment is there for a reason. Investigate that.

"You don't need religion to have morals. If you can't determine right from wrong, then you lack empathy, not religion." – AthiestRepublic.com
 

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The sentiment is there for a reason. Investigate that.

"You don't need religion to have morals. If you can't determine right from wrong, then you lack empathy, not religion." – AthiestRepublic.com
“We can see nothing today that wants to grow greater, we suspect that things will continue to go down, down, to become thinner, more good-natured, more prudent, more comfortable, more mediocre, more indifferent… Here precisely is what has become a fatality…together with the fear of man we have also lost our love of him, our reverence for him, our hopes for him, even the will to him. The sight of man now makes us weary—what is nihilism today if it is not that?—We are weary of man.”
- Friedrich Nietzsche

The order of castes, the supreme, the dominant law, is merely the sanction of a natural order, a natural lawfulness of the first rank, over which no arbitrariness, no “modern idea” has any power…Nature, not Manu, distinguishes the pre-eminently spiritual ones, those who are pre-eminently strong in muscle and temperament, and those, the third type, who excel neither in one respect nor in the other, the mediocre ones — the last as the great majority, the first as the elite.
- Friedrich Nietzsche
 

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The sentiment is there for a reason. Investigate that.

"You don't need religion to have morals. If you can't determine right from wrong, then you lack empathy, not religion." – AthiestRepublic.com
America claims to be a moral nation.
 

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"You don't need religion to have morals. If you can't determine right from wrong, then you lack empathy, not religion." – AthiestRepublic.com
This quite is just so full of conceit. Any atheist philosopher worth their salt knows and admits that nihilism defacto has to underlie their moral constructions (if they choose to create them for societal purposes) because they know that anything else is assumption and metaphysics. Atheist philosophers know that fundamentally morality is a belief and not a fact and that even biology itself goes against empathy, that evolution too goes against empathy. A serious atheist philosopher does not cower in shame and try to hold the banner of objectivity over this, as he knows for a fact that he would be being intellectually dishonest.
Internet and cultural atheists are entirely different to intellectually disciplined atheist philosophers.

At the same time, the moral highroad that is being asserted by the author of your quote, is in deep conflict with all of post-modern philosophy. Even 18th century philosophers like Kant, Hegel and even Locke would simply laugh at such an anti-intellectual statement such as "if you can't determine right and wrong, then you lack empathy", which asserts that right and wrong are universals that are just scientifically evident within the emotion of empathy, and we can all go home.
The entire history of philosophy and politics in the west since the 18th century has been a case of "look what we let out of the bag, now there's no stopping it". Empathy is for certain not a defining characteristic of morality, if anything it is shown through psychology and psychiatry to be a common trait among the things which cause societal transgressions (from homosexuality to rapists, murderers and pedophiles, the list goes on).
Empathy in it's relation to morality is a qualified element and not a distinguishing or objective scale which things are weighed upon.

At that, Empathy itself is a propaganda tool for which a person can be convinced of anything, this is evident in anything from the Stalinist propaganda to the Nazi propaganda. Empathy is what produces the change between passivity in something to action. Very uncoincidentally it was Empathy (like with the whole "peace and love" slogan and "love is love") which rhetorically was and still is used to push things like the LGBT, even though these statements are meaningless by themselves and push only to use a persons Empathy to ideologically side with something irrationally and illogically.

The person in your quote, just like most internet and cultural atheists are living embodiments of "have their cake and eat it too". They do not live their claims or the conclusions of their assumptions, they hold a conceit to aspire towards the cultural morality of their time and space, which is a combination of post-Christian morality, liberal ethics (via Locke especially) usually and the appeal to popularity fallacy ("so and so is evil because it is culturally considered this, I won't speak against this because of the stigma placed on me - with the exception of LGBT").
 
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“Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. “ -- Lucius Annaeus Seneca
 

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“Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. “ -- Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Group Homogeneity is harder to control than collective individualism (which the capitalist technocratic system solely exists through), the only way you can manipulate it is through a sectarian dualism but both are innately at odds with the ones manipulating such a thing (remind you of media wars?).
A persons intimate pleasure-based desires control them from the vantage point of control, far more effective and profitably than people with a sense of homogenous discipline, chastity, resistance and opposition to that essential system.

The statement would be better stated as “subnational ideological cultural frameworks are regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.“ or even reduced to “Ideologies are regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.“

Unfortunately when you realize that, then you know that your Progressivist narrative is too just an ideology (one grafted in the 18th century and used as a cultural motivator especially in western countries, towards further concealed ideological aims) that is even more useful to the rulers, so who is really the wise one? the one who follows cultural ideologies or someone who rebels against them? (which entails being perceived as "backwards" by Progressivists and Capitalists such as yourself).



Also, as outlined in this post, the word "Religion" (a term originating in the 16th century) didn't exist as far back as Seneca the Younger, so it'd be interesting to know the actual word and it's connotations, that Seneca actually used.
 

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Investigating…

Morality is the ability to know the difference between right and wrong.

The consensus used to be dehumanizing and wishing harm on other people is immoral. Based on his remarks, this person:
a. views other human beings as “not even human” and “close to livestock or animals”
b. “looks forward” to other human beings, without knowing anything about them personally, being “locked up and sent to jail.”

What makes him think
a. he is higher on the food chain than the humans he considers close to livestock
and
b. that they should be punished to the extent of his imagination?

Who or what taught him the morals that resulted in this behavior?

I would venture to guess he got his morality from the screens. So he inputs back into the screen his fascist fantasies, f#$&king up the ether.
 

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Investigating…

Morality is the ability to know the difference between right and wrong.

The consensus used to be dehumanizing and wishing harm on other people is immoral. Based on his remarks, this person:
a. views other human beings as “not even human” and “close to livestock or animals”
b. “looks forward” to other human beings, without knowing anything about them personally, being “locked up and sent to jail.”

What makes him think
a. he is higher on the food chain than the humans he considers close to livestock
and
b. that they should be punished to the extent of his imagination?

Who or what taught him the morals that resulted in this behavior?

I would venture to guess he got his morality from the screens. So he inputs back into the screen his fascist fantasies, f#$&king up the ether.
Maybe you need to walk a mile in those shoes.

"If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing Good and Evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956
 

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This guy hasn’t walked anywhere. He has been sitting his butt in front of a screen and absorbing news stories from distant lands from which he uses to superimpose his bdsm fantasies back onto the screen. Ain’t nobody got time for that!
 

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This guy hasn’t walked anywhere. He has been sitting his butt in front of a screen and absorbing news stories from distant lands from which he uses to superimpose his bdsm fantasies back onto the screen. Ain’t nobody got time for that!
Actually, we have Eternity.
 

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Maybe you need to walk a mile in those shoes.

"If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing Good and Evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956
My relatives did decades in the gulags he did 8 for speaking out. Got a nobel prizes. Mine spoke out because they where teaching them how to farm & when it came time for crops which where promised started to become less for them to keep & more for the government or land taken given to "idiots" of the state who then can't farm said land well that's more then just a mile.

so here's a quote since you like quotes....1 death is a tragedy millions a statistic -Stalin-
 

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Hey, don't kill the messenger... You can all hate what you want. I just don't see it as very productive.

"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." -- Thoreau
 

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Your statement wasn't a message of hate? walk a mile in a capt in the red army when i know the stories of my ancestors so....maybe you should think about the shoes you walk in cuz they may be covered in shit.
 

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Your statement wasn't a message of hate? walk a mile in a capt in the red army when i know the stories of my ancestors so....maybe you should think about the shoes you walk in cuz they may be covered in shit.
Lighten up! We're only human, born to make mistakes. We learn it in this life or the next. You can cast the first stone, if you must.

"Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die." -- Buddha
 

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Lighten up! We're only human, born to make mistakes. We learn it in this life or the next. You can cast the first stone, if you must.

"Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die." -- Buddha
No hate only concern. Hate means a contempt for you which i don't.
 

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@Nikōn

First off, I greatly respect your analysis and philosophical arguments in this thread.

But be of good cheer. The people who believe this have significantly lower birth-rates and are mostly an urban, middle-class phenomena. It is good to stay on gaurd and notice trends for intel. I believe the most danger they pose is relegated to their selective bubbles. I may be biased though, coming from a rural background.

In America I'm guessing most people who think this way are guided in their thinking by a combination of reductionist tropes of history and pop-culture (ie: "Sabrina"-tier Satanism). Their "enemy" outside their bubble is too complex to confront with words. Reddit is a cesspool for this kind of intellectual "ghetto-ization" where they can self-radicalize while chugging back soy milk.

Tl;dr. These are shallow consoomers with a daddy-complex who eat the bugs and watch the Netflix. Not a threat as of right now, but signs to watch for. It is our job to look for signs of it leaving Reddit.
 
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