What is happening in iran is not revolution

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From the very beginning this seemed to me to be the work of foreign/c i a meddling. The part about western governments supporting these protests when in general they only support controlled protests was the big hint.

Here are some posts I'd made about this topic before we had a separate thread for it

I haven't seen much about the Iranian women's protests. Here's some quick background from wiki

The Mahsa Amini protests are an ongoing series of protests and civil unrest against the government of Iran that began in Tehran on 16 September 2022. The protests began as a reaction to the death of Mahsa Amini (Persian: مهسا امینی), a 22-year-old Iranian woman who died while in police custody. According to eyewitnesses, she was beaten by the Guidance Patrol, the Islamic "morality police" of Iran, who accused her of wearing an "improper" hijab in violation of Iran's mandatory hijab law.[8] Iranian police have denied that Amini was beaten while she was in custody.[9]

The Mahsa Amini protests began hours after her death in Tehran. Protests first began at the hospital where Amini was treated, and then quickly spread to other cities, firstly in Amini's home province of Kurdistan, including in Saqqez, Sanandaj, Divandarreh, Baneh and Bijar.[10][11] In response to these demonstrations, beginning on 19 September the Iranian government implemented regional shutdowns of Internet access. As protests grew, a widespread Internet blackout was imposed along with nationwide restrictions on social media.[12][13]

As of 23 September 2022, at least fifty protestors have been killed as a result of the government's intervention into the protests,[5] making the protests the deadliest since the 2019–2020 protests that resulted in more than 1,500 fatalities.[14] The government's response to the protests has largely been condemned, and the United States Department of the Treasury has sanctioned the Guidance Patrol and several high-ranking Iranian officials.
At first glance it appears to be justified outrage over a woman beaten to death, but some things are giving me pause. Primarily, the fact that western governments are supporting the protests. We've seen how they never support any of the anti v@x or anti lockdown protests, but they will support blm type protests.



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  • Canada Canada: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced his government's support for the protesters, calling on the Iranian government to "end its repression of freedom of expression – and to end the ongoing harassment of, and discrimination against, women."[104] Foreign minister Mélanie Joly called for "a full and complete investigation into the regime's actions" in the aftermath of Amini's death.[105]
  • Turkey Turkey: Presidential Spokesperson İbrahim Kalın said he was saddened by the death of Mahsa Amini and that Iran needs to find a balanced way to respect one's free will and maintain the public order.[106] Demonstrations occurred in several Turkish cities, including a protest of a group of Iranians in front of the Iranian Consulate in Istanbul.[107][108]
  • United States United States: During his floor speech to the United Nations General Assembly, President Joe Biden offered solidarity to the protesters, imploring them to "secure their basic rights".[109] Secretary of State Antony Blinken condemned the Iranian government in response to Amini's death, tweeting that "[Amini's] death is unforgiveable. We will continue to hold Iranian officials accountable for such human rights abuses".[110] Later Blinken would announce that the US Government would be issuing a General License allowing US companies to ignore telecommunications sanctions against Iran in order to assist the protesters in attaining internet access.[111] Relpying to Blinken's tweet, Elon Musk implied that he would be activating Starlink to help keep the internet up in Iran.[53] Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wrote, "Solidarity with the courageous women and allies in Iran protesting for their freedom. Mahsa Amini was senselessly murdered".[112] Senator Amy Klobuchar tweeted "The women of Iran are taking to the streets, risking their lives for their rights and freedoms. I am with you, we are with you."[113] Democratic U.S. Senator Chris Van Hollen told VOA's Persian Service, "What's happening in Iran, generally, is an outrageous treatment of its people. And then you have this, these attacks on Iranian women … a woman who was killed for not conforming" to a religious edict "with respect to her hair in a veil."[114]
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I guess the question is, are these protests legit? Is this an attempt to overthrow the iranian regime to further western/globalist/elite purposes? Did the young woman in question even die/is this a false flag?

Gateway pundit's article is calling it a "revolution".
The uprisings in Iran continue as protestors have started calling it a “Revolution” and claiming certain towns and neighborhoods in Tehran have been liberated from the Islamic dictatorship. Police, Bassiji militia and Revolutionary guards have started shooting randomly at protestors. At least 50 are believed dead.
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Demonstrators are said to have liberated several towns in the Kurdish north. In Oshnavieh, “Regime forces have fled and all IRGC/Basij bases are burning in flames”, far-left People’s Mujaheddin activist Heshmat Alavi wrote. Army units are said to be deploying to Oshnavieh to quell the unrest.

Looking like a yes... george soros all over it





By Dr. Marwa Osman

The unfortunate death of Mahsa Amini, a 22-year-old Iranian woman, in police custody in the capital Tehran last week sparked angry protests inside and outside the country, to the point that the incident, which is still under investigation, has caught the imagination of people and media worldwide.


Amini, who hailed from the city of Saqqez in Iran’s western Kurdistan province, was in Tehran to meet her relatives when she was detained and taken to the headquarters of the moral security police over violation of the Islamic dress code.

As CCTV footage released by the police later showed Mahsa fainted inside the police office, without any physical contact, after which she was transferred to a Tehran hospital, where she was pronounced dead.

Her tragic death drew grief and shock across the country. On social media, Persian tweets with the hashtag "#MahsaAmini" became a global trend. Massive demonstrations were held in Tehran and other major Iranian cities in protest against her mysterious death.

Top Iranian authorities, including President Ebrahim Raeisi, stepped in immediately and ordered thorough probes into the incident and assured protesters that the truth shall prevail.

However, that didn’t allay the concerns of some so-called “protesters,” who upped the ante. Soon, as we saw, protests turned into deadly riots, with unruly mobs going on the rampage in different cities.

They attacked public properties, torched ambulances, vandalized banks and mosques, set ablaze the flag of the Islamic Republic, and fatally stabbed some policemen patrolling the streets.

By the time this piece was filed, the death toll from the countrywide riots had jumped to 41. Western regimes and the corporate mainstream Western media continue to cheer for the hoodlums.

Azizullah Maleki, the police chief in Iran's northern Gilan province, stated that more than 739 rioters had been arrested in different parts of the province in the wake of Amini’s death.

Iran’s state-run news agency IRNA quoted the police chief as saying that a large cache of weapons, ammunition, and explosives were seized from the possession of rioters during the arrests, pointing to a foreign-backed conspiracy.

If, as the Western mainstream media is portraying, these rioters are peaceful protestors calling for justice and accountability, why would they hurt other civilians, slit the throats of police officers, vandalize public property, or carry weapons, ammunition, and explosives?

Take for instance the events of January 6, 2021, in Washington. In comparison to how the US ruthlessly dealt with unarmed protesters on Capitol grounds that day, Iranian forces have exercised utmost restraint in dealing with rioters who have brazenly taken the law into their hands, stabbing police officers and dragging them in the streets with video evidence of their crimes documented online.


Just two days ago, one of those who broke into the US Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, was sentenced to four years in prison. That man did not carry an assault weapon, nor did he slit the throat of a police officer. But the Western mainstream media wants Iranian authorities to allow the armed rioters to run amok.

Apart from rumors and conflicting narratives doing the rounds on the internet over what some activists have called the "politically appetizing issue," a series of global condemnations began pouring in against the Islamic Republic of Iran.

The White House termed Amini's death a "flagrant and appalling violation of human rights," despite video evidence of her collapsing on her own inside the police office, without any force.

The Director General of Forensic Medicine in Tehran, Dr. Mehdi Forozche, declared in his report that there were no signs of beating or wounds as well as no bleeding or rupture in her internal organs, ruling out any foul play in her death.

Yet, you see the White House blatantly playing the “human rights card” and assuming the moral high ground while the US government has itself spent more than $1.5 billion to settle claims of police misconduct involving thousands of officers repeatedly accused of wrongdoing.

This, after the disturbing trend of fatal police shootings in the United States is only increasing year after year, with a total of 730 civilians having been shot, 71 of them Black, as of September 8, 2022. In 2021, there were 1,055 fatal police shootings, and in 2020 around 1,020.

Are we really surprised with the American regime’s opportunism and the use of human rights as a tool to instigate “regime change” color revolutions in countries like the Islamic Republic of Iran that refuse to submit to the US political, economic, and military belligerence?

Are we surprised that Western-affiliated and funded news websites and social media platforms are inundated with articles, blogs, and podcasts directing public opinion against Iran with direct incitement and clear mobilization, and discussion of public and individual freedoms in Tehran? That’s an easy NO.

Irrespective of the fact that investigations into the tragic death of Amini are underway, the media coverage in the West and some Arab countries has continued to focus on the incident itself, distorting and twisting it to suit their sinister agendas, while saying nothing about the ongoing probes.

They continue to incite the unruly and blood-thirsty mobs against the Iranian police and the government while imaging that the innocent blood being spilled on the streets will bring an end to the Islamic Revolution and reinstall a pro-West regime in Tehran. That’s pure wishful thinking.

Western media continues to portray the protests-turned-riots in Iran as a sign of fundamental socio-political change in the country, suggesting that the rioters constitute the majority of people acting on their own.

Those burning the Iranian flag, vandalizing public property, attacking ambulances, or raising the slogans of “regime change” are a handful of thugs working for the Western agencies.

The majority are those who proudly took to the streets in Tehran and other major Iranian cities on Friday, reaffirming their sacred pledge to the ideals of the Islamic Revolution and the martyrs who gave their blood to keep the revolution alive. Their blood is the red line.

Dr. Marwa Osman is a Lebanon-based university assistant professor, writer, political commentator and Press TV producer-presenter of The MidEaStream show.
Could it even be possible this young woman "died suddenly" and her death is being opportunistically used?

As to why now? I dont really keep up on the whole russia-ukraine thing but apparently iran just supplied the russians with a bunch of drones.
 

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The Evil Ones still trying to punish Iran for getting rid of Shah of Iran or whatever his name was. Iran never did anything to me so why should I hate them.
Exactly. The deep state of the US has these agendas but, as shown by the majority of posts in this thread, average citizens like us are not so easily swayed by their deceptions. After a while you can't help but notice how all the Israeli/US/British military intelligence operations are set off in a specific concordance, tied exactly to their mainstream media outlets.

I realize it's difficult to make sense of the overload of narratives. In one sense the US is a bastion of defiance against gun control, "global warming", communism, etc. while in another we have our own infiltration of foreign, corrupted entities pumping out agendas. All you can do is hold on for the ride and call things for what they are.
 
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The Iranian Revolution is running on its last legs and a new one is presenting itself, breathed to life by one of the most powerful weapons of modern social engineering: the spirit of feminism. On the other hand: reactionary tyranny. The threat of internal chaos is looming and foreign vultures, whether Sunni or Zionist, are already glancing over the pickings.

While Iran is standing in front of the junction between gay discotheques and women losing their driver's license, I suddenly start to wonder how an old friend of ours is doing.

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Maybe what Iran needs right now?
 

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Ahmadinejad Believes Islamic Republic Will Collapse Soon, Says Former Aide

Iran International Newsroom

A former adviser to Iran's firebrand ex-President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says he believes to be God's representative on Earth and calls himself Yeltsin of Iran. He added that the former president is adamant the Islamic Republic will collapse in less than 6 months.

In a recent interview carried by several news outlets including the proreform Fararu, former presidential adviser Abdolreza Davari who until recently supported Ahmadinejad has characterized the policies of his former boss as "erratic," adding that Ahmadinejad's radical stances often destabilize Iran's political scene.

He accused Ahmadinejad of claiming to represent the Shiites' hidden 12th Imam, the Mahdi. He quoted Ahmadinejad as saying that the hidden Imam believed to be in the occult for nearly 1,100 years, will briefly reveal himself to the faithful soon.
 
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The Evil Ones still trying to punish Iran for getting rid of Shah of Iran or whatever his name was. Iran never did anything to me so why should I hate them.
Not sure who the Evil Ones you're referring to are, but a commonly missed element in the Iranian Revolution is that the Ayatollah was given a free pass by the Carter administration in order to restore order in 1979, according to released documents reported by the BBC. The US basically controlled the Iranian army at that time and would not intervene in the Ayatollah's takeover. By the end of his reign, the Shah didn't really enjoy America's loyalty as much as many believe. The Pahlavi dynasty started after WW1 with the backing of the British to assert influence over the region in a struggle with Russia, principally, and Pahlavi's return to power in 1953 was a joint operation between CIA and MI6 to rescue that Anglo-Saxon hegemony mostly because the British had lost their oil company (now known as BP) after Mossadegh's nationalization. The Shah was then pressured into the Consortium Agreement (50/50 split ownership over oil production) but when he decided to nationalize the company again in 1979 instead of extending the agreement, I think he buried his own grave, politically speaking.

The Ayatollah was being accused by state press of being a British spy. To this day we still don't know who was actually behind the Cinema Rex fire that literally exploded the unrest leading to the revolution. The Shah blamed it on Communists, the protesters blamed it on the secret police. All sounds a bit familiar, even today.

Overall, I think Reza Shah can be interpreted as an unfulfilled embodiement of the Iranian Ataturk who saught to move Iran away from feudalism and theocracy, who pushed through successful reforms which increased the middle class and literacy, among other things, but was ultimately stopped by the spirit of Islam against secularization. Maybe a small part of the unrest in Iran now is the spirit of Pahlavi seeking revenge.
 
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Ahmadinejad Believes Islamic Republic Will Collapse Soon, Says Former Aide

Iran International Newsroom

A former adviser to Iran's firebrand ex-President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says he believes to be God's representative on Earth and calls himself Yeltsin of Iran. He added that the former president is adamant the Islamic Republic will collapse in less than 6 months.

In a recent interview carried by several news outlets including the proreform Fararu, former presidential adviser Abdolreza Davari who until recently supported Ahmadinejad has characterized the policies of his former boss as "erratic," adding that Ahmadinejad's radical stances often destabilize Iran's political scene.

He accused Ahmadinejad of claiming to represent the Shiites' hidden 12th Imam, the Mahdi. He quoted Ahmadinejad as saying that the hidden Imam believed to be in the occult for nearly 1,100 years, will briefly reveal himself to the faithful soon.
Ugh. I hope he didn't lose his marbles. Should check up on him.
 

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The Iranian Revolution is running on its last legs and a new one is presenting itself, breathed to life by one of the most powerful weapons of modern social engineering: the spirit of feminism. On the other hand: reactionary tyranny. The threat of internal chaos is looming and foreign vultures, whether Sunni or Zionist, are already glancing over the pickings.

While Iran is standing in front of the junction between gay discotheques and women losing their driver's license, I suddenly start to wonder how an old friend of ours is doing.


Maybe what Iran needs right now?
@Artful Revealer

Ahmadinejad Believes Islamic Republic Will Collapse Soon, Says Former Aide

Iran International Newsroom

A former adviser to Iran's firebrand ex-President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says he believes to be God's representative on Earth and calls himself Yeltsin of Iran. He added that the former president is adamant the Islamic Republic will collapse in less than 6 months.

In a recent interview carried by several news outlets including the proreform Fararu, former presidential adviser Abdolreza Davari who until recently supported Ahmadinejad has characterized the policies of his former boss as "erratic," adding that Ahmadinejad's radical stances often destabilize Iran's political scene.

He accused Ahmadinejad of claiming to represent the Shiites' hidden 12th Imam, the Mahdi. He quoted Ahmadinejad as saying that the hidden Imam believed to be in the occult for nearly 1,100 years, will briefly reveal himself to the faithful soon.
There is a famous quote that says that radical people are stupid or inside man.
In a tweet, this person's former adviser even mentioned that Ahmadinejad is a secret Jew.
He is generally known for his anti-Zionist statements, but it seems to be just words.
There is a lot to say about him and unfortunately I don't have time.
What is clear today is that his mistakes and those around him have been proven.
He participated in last election but was disqualified.
It may be interesting to mention that this person had a lot of problems with Qassem Soleimani.
What does Iran need?
There are people in Iran who can help t
, but these people became character assassins and hated by the people due to the mistakes of some government officials and the help of foreign media such as the BBC.
 
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The Iranian Revolution is running on its last legs and a new one is presenting itself, breathed to life by one of the most powerful weapons of modern social engineering: the spirit of feminism. On the other hand: reactionary tyranny. The threat of internal chaos is looming and foreign vultures, whether Sunni or Zionist, are already glancing over the pickings.

While Iran is standing in front of the junction between gay discotheques and women losing their driver's license, I suddenly start to wonder how an old friend of ours is doing.


Maybe what Iran needs right now?
I think Feminist movement alone does not cause a revolution,The simultaneous occurrence of this movement with economic protests (such as the so-called Bloody November) is dangerous and chaos occurs.
+ In Iran, women never had a problem with a driver's license, I think it was related to Saudi Arabia.
 
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Mahmoud was too poor to be Jew. He was really one of the people (incl. the goy), so I'm taking the statement of this advisor with more than one grain of salt.

+ In Iran, women never had a problem with a driver's license, I think it was related to Saudi Arabia.
I must have expressed myself poorly. I wasn't implying women couldn't drive in Iran, but alluding to the possibility of a reactionary response by Iranian authorities that could result in the opposite effect of what the protesters are looking to achieve, ie. an increase of tyranny instead of more liberties.
 

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Mahmoud was too poor to be Jew. He was really one of the people (incl. the goy), so I'm taking the statement of this advisor with more than one grain of salt.

I must have expressed myself poorly. I wasn't implying women couldn't drive in Iran, but alluding to the possibility of a reactionary response by Iranian authorities that could result in the opposite effect of what the protesters are looking to achieve, ie. an increase of tyranny instead of more liberties.
Yes, I understand
English is not my native language so I may make mistakes.
 

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Hi everyone
Considering that we are during the World Cup, I want to mention about Iran and related events.
The Iranian team was badly defeated by England.
It might be interesting for you to know that a part of Iranian people are happy because of this failure. They say this is the government team, not Iran.
What a stupidity!
According to the people, the atmosphere in the stadium was terrible. There were two groups of fans, those who cheered and those who only came to harass the players.
Some insulted the Iranian players and asked them to lose. They called the names of those who are supporters of the regime and insulted them.
It was clear that with such a strange atmosphere, the concentration of the players will be completely ruined.
(Before the game, some Iranians attacked their Instagram direct with a series of fake accounts from the game and insulted them and made them lose)


The video shows that they call them dishonorable(bisharaf)
Cheering the team

They didn't even sing the anthem to show their solidarity, to stop the post-match attacks on BBC Persian and Saudi International's Instagram posts.
But some of the anti-government have become hateful jokers.
Why ? Media terrorism caused (bbc, iran international saudi ...)
The fact that some Iranians are attacking Iranian players in the stadium today has not happened during these two months.
It is a project that has been tried for four years by Masih Alinejad (an American employee related to the CIA) to tell Iranians that this is a normal method for a revolution.
I remember that when this project started, everyone was surprised by this woman's words, why should they call for a boycott of sports!
She was invited many times for an interview on the BBC so that she could radicalize a part of Iranians at this time.
Finally, after four years, it had its effect. It was repeated so much that some people believed that it was a normal request that would help the Protests.

Maybe this is not Iran's national team" is the introduction of "this is not Iran's infrastructure".

+Why is Iran's national team the project of this person? (It is not only related to sports flag and every national symbol is attacked.) The new Middle East that Zionism wants, Iran is not unified, but separated into several countries, Kurdistan, Azerbaijan, Balochistan, etc.)
+ One reason that the opponents of the national team say is that they had a meeting with the president before the trip to Qatar!
+Radical minorities are scary, for fear of attack, the majority against their movements are forced to remain silent
 
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These days, all the moderate political people who are considered as opponents of the government
But they are against violence and attacks on national symbols
With death threats and thousands of fake accounts, they are forced to remain silent.
 

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I find it interesting how the so-called alternative media here in the US is determined to push the narrative that the protests in Iran are somehow justified and organic.

In this article, they contrast the Iranian players not singing the national anthem as "heroic" while criticzing the Engliah players kneeling for their anthem as "woke". What it the supposed difference? I'm sure the British players protesting "racism" believe their cause is legit, regardless if it's a lie. Both teams are disrespecting their country, if they didnt want to represent their country they could just stay home and go work a regular job like everybody else.


When Iran’s World Cup team took the field for their opening match Monday, they refused to sing their national anthem before the match. The act was a show of support for the mass protests taking place in Iran after Amini’s death and the violent, brutal crackdowns on protestors that followed.
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In an embarrassing contrast to the act bravery by the Iranians, the British players chose the moment to pander to wokeism and took a knee during their anthem to protest “racism, injustice and police brutality.”

The Iranian players face potentially harsh and brutal repercussions for their act.

British players will get another woke-trophy.
 
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