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The only authority Jesus pronounced was from the Father revealed in Christ. None had seen the Father but the Son who was sent by Him. Therefore, the Torah does not have authority, except for the Jew.
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Jesus of the gospels tried to confirm himself as being whoever it is he said he was by using the Torah scriptures(verbatim), quoting from the Creator outlined in the Torah (verbatim) who you say he came to free you from, and quoting the prophets of the Torah/writings (verbatim). He placed the authority on it...
By quoting the Torah verbatim he gave it value and authority....

If you read Jesus' words, you read the apotheosis of Hellenic philosophy, not Jewish law.
Hellenic, i.e. Greek, i.e. pagan, i.e. people so desperate to get Israel to stop worshiping the Creator that they passed laws against it and put those to death who were caught observing the faith. That’s the energy behind your belief system
 





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By quoting the Torah verbatim he gave it value and authority....
Being in agreement with a part of a book and reiterating one or more statements is not the same as validating the entire book. Based on that logic, I would be validating both the Gospel, the Torah and the Quran when I say "there is one God."

There are far too many mutually exclusive discrepancies between the Testaments to claim Jesus approved the Torah as a whole. Plus, the use of statements taken from the Torah can be explained in the context of Jesus' mission to convert the Jews. Proselytism doesn't start off well by saying "everything you heard was a lie".


Hellenic, i.e. Greek, i.e. pagan, i.e. people so desperate to get Israel to stop worshiping the Creator that they passed laws against it and put those to death who were caught observing the faith. That’s the energy behind your belief system
Greek is pagan, but Jew is not? The Jews offered their own to their King (Melek) which the Greek called holocaust. They've bowed their knees to Baal more than once. They've rejected the prophets and even stoned some. They are called the enemy of the Gospel by Paul, sons of the devil by John. They killed the Christ.

But sure, the Greeks are the pagan ones.

Where do you think Logos comes from, let alone Christ? Do you think it's a Hebrew word or concept? It is not, not at all. The idea of the fundamental principle on which everything is built had passed through the Pythagorean school, from one Greek philosopher to another, until not water, air, fire, but the LOGOS was proclaimed, premeditated by the Greeks and Heraclitus, then revealed through Iesous Chrestos (Greek for "the Good Saviour") as the Word of God that shaped all things.
 





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Being in agreement with a part of a book and reiterating one or more statements is not the same as validating the entire book. Based on that logic, I would be validating both the Gospel, the Torah and the Quran when I say "there is one God."
It gets much deeper than that though. He quotes a prophet from the (so called) Old Testament than alludes to that prophet speaking of him with the verse he quoted. He did that with Moses and Isaiah to name two. I didn’t say anything about all but I did say that he gave it authority and value by quoting it.

There are far too many mutually exclusive discrepancies between the Testaments to claim Jesus approved the Torah as a whole. Plus, the use of statements taken from the Torah can be explained in the context of Jesus' mission to convert the Jews. Proselytism doesn't start off well by saying "everything you heard was a lie".
Men try to tickle other men’s ears so that they can convert them to their views of things. That’s what all those prosperity pimp preachers are about. Not the Creator

Greek is pagan, but Jew is not? The Jews offered their own to their King (Melek) which the Greek called holocaust. They've bowed their knees to Baal more than once. They've rejected the prophets and even stoned some. They are called the enemy of the Gospel by Paul, sons of the devil by John. They killed the Christ.

But sure, the Greeks are the pagan ones.

Where do you think Logos comes from, let alone Christ? Do you think it's a Hebrew word or concept? It is not, not at all. The idea of the fundamental principle on which everything is built had passed through the Pythagorean school, from one Greek philosopher to another, until not water, air, fire, but the LOGOS was proclaimed, premeditated by the Greeks and Heraclitus, then revealed through Iesous Chrestos (Greek for "the Good Saviour") as the Word of God that shaped all things.
You mean Pythagoras that went to Egypt to learn from them before stamping his name on what he learned elsewhere.

And yea the Greeks were the same ones who were passing laws to force Israel to not obey their laws. The Greeks were the same ones putting Israel to death for trying to obey their laws. The Greeks were the same ones who went to great lengths to besmirch Israel’s belief system by sacrificing abominations on their altar. Their idea of spirituality is not to be trusted.

At the end of the day the energy behind your philosophy is the same one behind the Babylonians, Egyptians, Romans and the elite. That’s why they commemorate those gods by the days of the month/names of months, holy days they celebrate, and symbols/statues they place on their lands.. Its all the same energy behind them that opposes Israel and their Creator.
 





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It gets much deeper than that though. He quotes a prophet from the (so called) Old Testament than alludes to that prophet speaking of him with the verse he quoted. He did that with Moses and Isaiah to name two. I didn’t say anything about all but I did say that he gave it authority and value by quoting it.
So? Moses and Isaiah were perhaps prophets of El. This doesn't contradict my view.

Men try to tickle other men’s ears so that they can convert them to their views of things. That’s what all those prosperity pimp preachers are about. Not the Creator
You keep ignoring the point that a truth statement remains true independent from the source. If I would say to Jews "you shouldn't kill", I'm not reiterating a part of the Old Testament to tickle their ears, but because it's true and because it will resonate with them more if they've heard this instruction before from a source they deem reliable. Preposterous argument.

You mean Pythagoras that went to Egypt to learn from them before stamping his name on what he learned elsewhere.
Do you have any evidence here in relation to the Greek concept of the Logos? Because the evolution of the Logos in Greek philosophy is easily demonstrable without the need for outside influence.

And yea the Greeks were the same ones who were passing laws to force Israel to not obey their laws. The Greeks were the same ones putting Israel to death for trying to obey their laws. The Greeks were the same ones who went to great lengths to besmirch Israel’s belief system by sacrificing abominations on their altar. Their idea of spirituality is not to be trusted.
All irrelevant. Israel was already adulterous and pagan long before it came under Greek rule according to Isaiah and Jeremiah. It is not Greece who corrupted Israel's worship. The Israelites did that themselves when they started worshipping Baal.

At the end of the day the energy behind your philosophy is the same one behind the Babylonians, Egyptians, Romans and the elite. That’s why they commemorate those gods by the days of the month/names of months, holy days they celebrate, and symbols/statues they place on their lands.. Its all the same energy behind them that opposes Israel and their Creator.
Your obsession and affinity with a group of people identifying their divine chosenness through blood alone is no less than pathetic and no less idiotic than following a group called Athenians declaring Apollo God of gods, whose followers are chosen by matrilineal descent.

You've gone on a path to perdition.
 





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Earth, Moon,Venus

The Holy Trinity ( in some sense )

The name of God may be Eris, because Chaos rules the universe, that’s a hard one to accept but it true.( in some sense)
 





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So? Moses and Isaiah were perhaps prophets of El. This doesn't contradict my view.

You keep ignoring the point that a truth statement remains true independent from the source. If I would say to Jews "you shouldn't kill", I'm not reiterating a part of the Old Testament to tickle their ears, but because it's true and because it will resonate with them more if they've heard this instruction before from a source they deem reliable. Preposterous argument.
After all this time, I now see that you just typed the words that Moses was "perhaps" a prophet of the Creator? The foundation of what Israel was supposed to believe was based on the writings of or the writings attributed to Moses and you now say that he was "perhaps" a prophet of the Creator? That totally contradicts the gnostic view.

But you're wrong. When you quote a part of the OT by quoting it verbatim, you are reiterating a part of it since you can say the truth without quoting a deceiver who happened to speak the truth at one time or another. I believe the Creator is One. But youll never see me pull out a Surah verse from the Quran to explain that. Its the serpents that speak with a forked tongue not the righteous. But thats the gnostic gospels for you. Say one thing to the public another to someone else. Or speak in parables to where people cant/wont understand you, then go in private and speak openly/freely to the chosen few. Same concept throughout most of the gnostic gospels..

Do you have any evidence here in relation to the Greek concept of the Logos? Because the evolution of the Logos in Greek philosophy is easily demonstrable without the need for outside influence.
The Greeks got their info on alot of things from the Egyptians and Pythagoras specifically, went to study in Egypt. Whether he got "logos" from them, I'd have to look into. The thing is, the energy of the elite, Egyptians and Greeks is the same as gnosticism. They all opposed the Creator of Israel, His people, and His laws, commandments and statutes. You're doing nothing different other than putting a different twist on it.

All irrelevant. Israel was already adulterous and pagan long before it came under Greek rule according to Isaiah and Jeremiah. It is not Greece who corrupted Israel's worship. The Israelites did that themselves when they started worshipping Baal.

Your obsession and affinity with a group of people identifying their divine chosenness through blood alone is no less than pathetic and no less idiotic than following a group called Athenians declaring Apollo God of gods, whose followers are chosen by matrilineal descent.

You've gone on a path to perdition.
I think the problem is that you dont know (or wont acknowledge) the fact that scriptures already SAY that Israel worshiped ball/Molech/Ashteroth/Tammuz etc... But while also writing of their IDOLATRY it wrote about the Creator, the same One that revealed Himself to Moses, calling them back to worship Him instead of these idols.

So of course I have an affinity for the scriptures since I believe them to be true. That kinda goes hand in hand. But the elite worshiping the Creator that revealed Hisself to Israel? Nope not buying it and I have explained why. If you want to address the "why" feel free..
 





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God has many titles The Almighty, Lord, God, the Creator, the Father, Allah, those are titles but obviously not his personal name. We all have our own personal names Sarah, John, Martha, Paul etc etc and our titles mother, father, sister, brother, teacher, chef, nurse, firefighter etc. What is God's name? It's not Elohim because that's the Hebrew word in plural for excellence, dignity and majesty. It's not Jesus either because that's the son of God. Jesus is a god but not God. If you've been taught God's personal name, please share with those that haven't learned it yet. Thanks

By the way I'm sure anyone that respects subjects that have to do with God, find it highly DISRESPECTFUL to joke around on the subject. It's not funny to joke around about God's name and I'm shocked you can joke about it with ease, no respect whatsoever.
There's one God in three persons. There's God the Father. God the Son. And God the Holy Spirit. For there are three that bear record in heaven the Father the Word and the Holy Ghost and these 3 are one. Depending on if you're referring to God the Father, God the Son, or God Holy Spirit, each person of the Godhead has various names that reference him. For example, Jesus refers to the Holy Spirit as The Comforter. In John 1:1, Jesus is referred to as the Word etc etc
 





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God’s name is Yahweh, He is the Father.
God’s name is also Jesus, He is the Son.
God is also the Holy Spirit
One God, three separate rolls. We have a hard time understanding how this can be. The easiest explanation is, take a look at an egg. An egg has three parts, egg shell, egg yolk and egg white however all those parts make up one egg.
 





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Yup, 1 being 3 persons :D:D:D


@Lisa
Ok I know GOD is YHWH but I don't know if it's actually God the Father's name :confused:
This is actually making sense..
I thought YHWH is GOD (as in the Trinity) name.
Interesting, I always thought God the Father is Father.
 





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Yup, 1 being 3 persons :D:D:D


@Lisa
Ok I know GOD is YHWH but I don't know if it's actually God the Father's name :confused:
This is actually making sense..
I thought YHWH is GOD (as in the Trinity) name.
Interesting, I always thought God the Father is Father.
And I never thought that the trinity’s name was Yahweh, never looked at it that way.
Sort of like the egg analogy where all three parts are called an egg. I think of the trinity as all three parts called God and then their individual person...God the Father-Yahweh, God the Son-Jesus and God the Holy Spirit.
And then Jesus and Yahweh have more names i.e. I Am, Adonai, the Word, the Living Water...etc. but those names seem to reflect parts of their personality, except for maybe I Am. I Am who I Am, perhaps that is a reflection?
 





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I think I just quote https://carm.org/what-is-the-name-of-god-the-father

Psalm 102:25-27 talks about YHWH,
25 Of old you laid the foundation of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
26 They will perish, but you will remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
You will change them like a robe, and they will pass away,
27 but you are the same, and your years have no end.

And then there is Hebrew 1:10-12 talking about the son. So the author of Hebrews refers Jesus as YHWH.
And Hebrews 10:15-16 quotes Jeremiah 31:33 as being a direct quote from the Holy Spirit. It is, in fact, a direct quote from YHWH. So the Holy Spirit is also YHWH.

In the end, there is one God who exists in three persons, and those three persons share the one divine name of YHWH.
 





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There's one God in three persons. There's God the Father. God the Son. And God the Holy Spirit. For there are three that bear record in heaven the Father the Word and the Holy Ghost and these 3 are one. Depending on if you're referring to God the Father, God the Son, or God Holy Spirit, each person of the Godhead has various names that reference him. For example, Jesus refers to the Holy Spirit as The Comforter. In John 1:1, Jesus is referred to as the Word etc etc
I'm sorry but I don't agree with you that God is 3 and 3 is God. It doesn't make any sense.
Yes there's God Yahweh/Jehovah the father. There's Yeshua/Jesus the son, and there's the Holy Spirit.
Let me break it down.

The Father sent the son. How can the Father send himself to die for us for God does not die and cannot die. He's too great a spirit and spirits don't die like we do. God can destroy a spirit though for he holds the ultimate power.
John 17:3 John 3:16 Plus Jesus always gave his Father the praise, not to himself.

The son is a spirit but he was materialized by God so he could come to live as a human with flesh and blood and give his perfect self for us. Because of his human state he was able to die just like humans die. He was resurrected in spirit form once more so he could return to heaven with his Father.
Peter 3:18 Acts 13:34

The Holy spirit is God's force, his might. He bestows this spiritual and holy force upon those who ask. This special force enables humans to continue enduring in the face of trials and gives much needed strength. God is not giving himself to us when we ask for Holy Spirit, rather, he's giving us some of his might.
Ephesians 3:16 Zechariah 4:6 Luke 3:22
 





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I'm sorry but I don't agree with you that God is 3 and 3 is God. It doesn't make any sense.
Yes there's God Yahweh/Jehovah the father. There's Yeshua/Jesus the son, and there's the Holy Spirit.
Let me break it down.

The Father sent the son. How can the Father send himself to die for us for God does not die and cannot die. He's too great a spirit and spirits don't die like we do. God can destroy a spirit though for he holds the ultimate power.
John 17:3 John 3:16 Plus Jesus always gave his Father the praise, not to himself.

The son is a spirit but he was materialized by God so he could come to live as a human with flesh and blood and give his perfect self for us. Because of his human state he was able to die just like humans die. He was resurrected in spirit form once more so he could return to heaven with his Father.
Peter 3:18 Acts 13:34

The Holy spirit is God's force, his might. He bestows this spiritual and holy force upon those who ask. This special force enables humans to continue enduring in the face of trials and gives much needed strength. God is not giving himself to us when we ask for Holy Spirit, rather, he's giving us some of his might.
Ephesians 3:16 Zechariah 4:6 Luke 3:22
Hebrews 1:8
“But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.”
In this verse the Son is called God.
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
The Word equals God and the word is Jesus.

1 Timothy 3:16
“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
Clearly this is a verse about Jesus.

John 20:28-29
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”

Genesis 1:26

“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish...
In this verse who does US refer to? It refers to God- which consists of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Like water can be a liquid gas or solid. But it's all water. Whether I'm eating ice cube, drinking the liquid, or inhaling Steam.
 





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Hebrews 1:8
“But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.”
In this verse the Son is called God.
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
The Word equals God and the word is Jesus.

1 Timothy 3:16
“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
Clearly this is a verse about Jesus.

John 20:28-29
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”

Genesis 1:26

“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish...
In this verse who does US refer to? It refers to God- which consists of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Like water can be a liquid gas or solid. But it's all water. Whether I'm eating ice cube, drinking the liquid, or inhaling Steam.
The problem with the ice, liquid and steam metaphor is that it can cause people to believe in heresy of modalism. https://carm.org/modalism
The Christian God is a trinity- one god, three persons. Don't expect atheists etc to understand it if even Christians struggle with the concept.

 





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God’s name is Yahweh, He is the Father.
God’s name is also Jesus, He is the Son.
God is also the Holy Spirit
One God, three separate rolls.
Hi Lisa, Yes, God is three persons, But, they all have the SAME roll. They are all in agreement and purpose. If you have seen Christ, you have also seen the Father, if you are born again, you also have the Spirit of Christ. And if you have the Spirit of Christ...you know the Father.
 





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Hi Lisa, Yes, God is three persons, But, they all have the SAME roll. They are all in agreement and purpose. If you have seen Christ, you have also seen the Father, if you are born again, you also have the Spirit of Christ. And if you have the Spirit of Christ...you know the Father.
Well, I think its obvious that one is the Father, no one can just come to Him and His other persons obey Him.
The Son obeys the Father and isn’t in charge, He also is the one that came down to earth to save the world from perishing, the Father and the Holy Spirit aren’t doing that. He was the One that was sacrificed and reconciles people to the Father.

The Holy Spirit has his role, He draws people to the gospel, He teaches people, He lives in our hearts and He is our Helper the Spirit of truth.

This is what I mean that they have different roles. They are still God together.
 





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Well, I think its obvious that one is the Father, no one can just come to Him and His other persons obey Him.
The Son obeys the Father and isn’t in charge, He also is the one that came down to earth to save the world from perishing, the Father and the Holy Spirit aren’t doing that. He was the One that was sacrificed and reconciles people to the Father.

The Holy Spirit has his role, He draws people to the gospel, He teaches people, He lives in our hearts and He is our Helper the Spirit of truth.

This is what I mean that they have different roles. They are still God together.
I'm sorry you did not comprehend the post. They all had the same purpose, just as man is a trinity; body , spirit and soul, just as God is one...so is man. created in the image of God. The God and all His names in the OT was Jesus before His incarnation. He is only called Lord when He creates and deals with man.
 





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I still disagree with you about Jesus being the Messiah, God incarnate deity, etc...
You may disagree, but I believe all of, but especially South Africa to be the true Jeruslem is. I believe Jesus to be black not that makes any difference to you, just wanting to make my point of view and my opinions clear and straight to the point, but I digress.

However, you couldn’t be more right about who the true Black Hebrew Israelities & Flat Earth.
Iron sharpens iron regardless.
Yea I cant believe in the Jesus story anymore but to each their own of course. As far as South Africa being Jerusalem, I'll look into it, but am pretty sure that Jersusalem is and was somewhere in the Americas. Thats where everybody's attention was during Colombus' time and afterwards and thats where most of the world resources are found (i.e. land with milk and honey). Not sure the same can be said for South Africa and KNOW it cannot be said for modern Israel.....

As a sidenote, I have an idea of who you are but I'll leave it alone for now :)