What does the Koran actually say about prayer?

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You Muslims AND the Jews say Jesus wasn't the Son of God, so at least muslims and jews have something in common after all..:)
Me, I'll keep riding with Jesus on the winning Christian team.. :p

"Who is it that beats the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God" (1 John 5:5)
Jesus said - "I've beaten the world" (John 16:33)

He wasn't the literal son of God
He was the symbolic, metaphorical son of God which was just a term used to describe the relationship between God and the Logos.

Jesus was an incarnation of the Logos.

I'm right and you're wrong..the end. You're too ignorant of your own religion. Itsn't my fault.
 
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The most important words in all of Scripture (both the Bible and the Koran, the latter of which CONFIRMS the forner) are found in John 3:3-7.

John 3:3-7
3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born from above, he cannot SEE The Kingdom of God.
3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water (human) and then is born (later) from above as his spirit-"Being" (his REAL self which is NOT human), he can NOT enter into The Kingdom of God (Who is a Spirit-"Being").
3:6 That which is born of the flesh is human; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit (a spirit-"Being") - (a human+Being).
3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.


As long as someone sees this world through HUMAN eyes, they will continue to be misled by the temporary ruler of this world: Lucifer/Satan/Iblis (the devil/red dragon). Every one of us is a spirit-Being (aspiring soul), made in the image (likeness) of God, Who is likewise a Spirit-Being (John 4:24). We are only temporarily incarnating one of these human-animal bodies, and MUST learn that we are NOT the body we are living inside of temporarily.

A human + Being = a human+Being.

Prince Michael is the IMMORTAL Firstborn SON OF GOD, i.e. He is the beginning of the creation of God (His Anointed One - The Messiah/Christ), made in His Image; the first of MANY brethren that God (Allah, the "I AM") created.

Jesus, was the MORTAL firstborn son of the virgin body of Mary, hence the designation "Son of Man".

Together, They formed the human+Being we know as Jesus+Christ.

With regard to Prince Michael/Christ being the CREATED firstborn Son of God:-


Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, THE BEGINNING of the creation OF God;

Colossians 1:12-18
1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, Which hath made us meet to be sharers of the inheritance of the holy people in Light:
1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated [us] into the Kingdom of His dear Son:
1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, [even] the forgiveness of sins:
1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the FIRSTBORN of every creature:

Romans 8:28-29
8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to [His] purpose.
8:29 For whom He did foreknow, He also did predestinate [to be] conformed to the image of His Son, that he might be the FIRSTBORN among MANY brethren.

According to The Law that God gave us, the inheritance of the firstborn is a double-portion of all the Father has (Deut. 21:17).

Hebrews 1:1-4
1:1 God, Who at sundry times and in diverse manners spoke in time past unto the fathers by the Prophets,
1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [His] Son, whom He hath APPOINTED heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds;
1:3 Who being the brightness of [His] glory, and the express IMAGE of His person, and upholding all things by the Word of His power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of His Majesty on high;
1:4 Being MADE so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

And with regard to the firstborn son of the king, the firstborn son of the king is referred to as THE PRINCE. And the firstborn Son of God - Who is The King Ruler of the Universe -- is PRINCE Michael, THE ANOINTED ONE (Messiah/Christ - see Dan. 8:25, 9:25-27, 10:21, 12:1-4), Who COMMANDS both the nations AND the heavenly host (ALL of the Sons of God/Angels).

Revelation 12:7-9
12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon (Lucifer); and the dragon fought and his angels,
12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out to the Earth, and his angels (you - Luke 9:55) were cast out with him (Matthew 25:41).

All of the angels are referred to as the "Sons of God" because God created them, including Prince Michael and Gabriel, the latter of whom Prince Michael SENT to give Their Message (God's Message) to Muhammad.

Sura 2:98. Whoever is an enemy to God and His angels and Apostles, to Gabriel and Michael (Daniel 12:1; Rev. 12:7),- Lo! God is an enemy to those who reject Faith."

"Muslims" are as bad as "Christians' at reading the Scripture, and then throwing terms around that they clearly do NOT understand.

God could NEVER have a human son, because God does not procreate with humans. God also does NOT have "partners", which means there is NO QUEEN OF HEAVEN (Jer. 44:17-25, Sura 4:116-117), there is no "trinity" (Deut. 6:4, Mark 12:29, Sura 4:171), nor are there any organized religions or their fabricated textbooks required to understand God's Word (Deut. 4:2, Acts 5:29, Sura 42:6-10).

Jesus is NOT the Son of God; Prince Michael/Christ is. A "Son of God" (angel) is the CREATED offspring of God, whereas the "Son of Man" refers to the procreated offspring of man, born of a woman.

The exception to this rule is the virgin birth of Jesus, CONFIRMED by the Koran (Sura 3:42-48), to make Him stand apart from all of the other Prophets, Messengers and Apostles, so that people would take notice and hear Him.

And Muhammad (peace be upon him) was NOT a Prophet; nor does it say anywhere in the Koran that he was. A Prophet is someone who PROPHESIES, and Muhammad did not prophecy anything in the Koran, which was sent to Muhammad to CONFIRM the Bible (not to refute it, as most so-called Muslims -- unbelievers really -- try to do).

Sura 3:144. Muhammad is no more than an Apostle: many were the Apostles that passed away before him. If he died or were slain, will ye then turn back on your heels? If any did turn back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to God; but God (on the other hand) will swiftly reward those who (serve Him) with gratitude.

Sura 33:40. Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of "I AM", and the Seal OF the Prophets*: and "I AM" has full knowledge of all things.

*CONFIRMING what the Prophets that came before him PROPHESIED. A seal is anything that serves as assurance, confirmation, or bond.

Christ is, and always will be THE LAST PROPHET. That's why He is PROPHESIED to return just before Judgment Day, inside a new body (from Joseph-Ephraim - Gen. 49:10, 22-24) with a NEW name (Mal. 4, Rev. 2:17, 3:12, 19:12), as CONFIRMED in the Koran (Sura 43:61).

This is exactly why the Koran COMMANDS its readers to read the Bible, and warns them that those who do not follow the SUPERIOR Example of Christ (Sura 3:42-55), while He was here in the body of Jesus, are among the faithless/unbelievers/infidels, who will spend eternity in The Fire.

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You always attempt to convince the Muslims that they must accept the Bible as the word of God, but I have never once seen you try to convince Christians that the Quran is the word of God. Why is that? Perhaps because Christians will see that the Quran and the Bible can never be reconciled. If you accept the Quran, you must reject the Bible. And if you accept the Bible, you must reject the Quran.

- In the Bible, Eve tempts Adam to eat from the tree, and God condemns them and their progeny to a life of pain and misery on Earth for their sin. There is no such account in the Quran. In the Quran God intended to put Adam and Eve on Earth before they had committed any sin. They are forgiven by God after they repent to him. Adam and Eve bore equal responsibility for their sin, nor do their progeny bear the responsibility of their sin.
- In the New Testament, man is declared inherently evil and wicked. In the Quran, God created man on the 'fitrah': the natural, inborn disposition towards the recognition of God, and towards the love of goodness.
- The Bible alleges that the Prophets committed egregious sins such as adultery and murder (Lot's daughters commit incest, David commits adultery and kills Bathsheba's husband). There are no such accounts in the Quran: the Prophets and Messengers declare the Oneness of God (no partner, no second, no offspring), and disassociate themselves from the disbelief of their misguided people
- Christians say that Jesus was the son of God, or God himself as part of the trinity. The Quran rejects this outright as a monstrous supposition, and clear idolatry.
- The Bible alleges that Jesus was crucified, and rose from the dead. The Quran refutes these claims: Jesus was not crucified, but it was made to appear to them as such, and he was raised up to God.
- The Bible says that that the sacrificial son was Isaac. The Quran clearly states that it was Ishmael.
- Christians say that one can only attain salvation by faith; our works are meaningless. The Quran emphatically states that after faith, works are the most important precondition for salvation: every man will be recompensed for his deeds in kind, and God will not wrong them.

There is an irony in your declaring yourself to be the 'true submitter to God/Muslim' after you recognise only those Quran verses that agree with the Bible, and you disregard or twist all the verses that emphatically and clearly contradict the Bible. Your doctrine is a Christian one, to which you have just tacked the Quran on to the end of, claiming that the two scriptures do not contradict one another in even a letter or word.


You claim that the Bible declares Jesus to be the final Prophet. This is false. Jesus spoke of one who would succeed him.

And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever. [John 14:16]

But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. [John 14:26]

I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. [John 16:12-13]

And this is the blessing, wherewith Moses the man of God blessed the children of Israel before his death. The Lord came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints; from his right hand went a fiery law for them. [Deuteronomy 33:1-2]

Muhammad being the final Prophet of God does not preclude Jesus from returning to Earth before the Day of Judgement. The two are not mutually exclusive. Jesus will return before the Day of Reckoning, but judging by the law of Muhammad, and as a submitter to God, i.e. a Muslim.
 
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And Muhammad (peace be upon him) was NOT a Prophet; nor does it say anywhere in the Koran that he was. A Prophet is someone who PROPHESIES, and Muhammad did not prophecy anything in the Koran, which was sent to Muhammad to CONFIRM the Bible (not to refute it, as most so-called Muslims -- unbelievers really -- try to do).

Sura 3:144. Muhammad is no more than an Apostle: many were the Apostles that passed away before him. If he died or were slain, will ye then turn back on your heels? If any did turn back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to God; but God (on the other hand) will swiftly reward those who (serve Him) with gratitude.

Sura 33:40. Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of "I AM", and the Seal OF the Prophets*: and "I AM" has full knowledge of all things.

*CONFIRMING what the Prophets that came before him PROPHESIED. A seal is anything that serves as assurance, confirmation, or bond.

Christ is, and always will be THE LAST PROPHET. That's why He is PROPHESIED to return just before Judgment Day, inside a new body (from Joseph-Ephraim - Gen. 49:10, 22-24) with a NEW name (Mal. 4, Rev. 2:17, 3:12, 19:12), as CONFIRMED in the Koran (Sura 43:61).

This is exactly why the Koran COMMANDS its readers to read the Bible, and warns them that those who do not follow the SUPERIOR Example of Christ (Sura 3:42-55), while He was here in the body of Jesus, are among the faithless/unbelievers/infidels, who will spend eternity in The Fire.

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You cannnot grasp the meaning of the Quran without the Arabic. Nowhere does the Quran speak of the King of Kings Bible you claim to be the inerrant word of God. The Quran speaks only of the Gospel revealed to Jesus, called the 'Injeel'.

The New Testament was compiled over hundreds of years. No two pages of the 6,000 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament are the same.

The Interpreter’s Dictionary of the Bible:
“There is not one sentence in the New Testament in which the manuscript tradition is wholly uniform.”

The 3rd century Alexandrian scholar Origen said:
"The differences among the manuscripts [of the Gospels] have become great, either through the negligence of some copyists or through the perverse audacity of others; they either neglect to check over what they have transcribed, or, in the process of checking, they lengthen or shorten, as they please."

Bruce Metzger:
“By way of conclusion, let it be emphasized again that there is no single manuscript and no one group of manuscripts that the textual critic may follow mechanically. All known witnesses of the New Testament are to a greater or lesser extent mixed texts, and even several of the earliest manuscripts are not free from egregious errors. Although in very many cases the textual critic is able to ascertain without residual doubt which reading must have stood in the original, there are not a few other cases where only a tentative decision can be reached, based on an equivocal balancing of probabilities. Occasionally, none of the variant readings will commend itself as original, and one will be compelled either to choose the reading that is judged to be the least unsatisfactory or to indulge in conjectural emendation. In textual criticism, as in other areas of historical research, one must seek not only to learn what can be known but also to become aware of what, because of conflicting witnesses, cannot be known.”

1 John 5:7, the Johannine Comma, is one of the only places mentioning the trinity. And yet, while the KJV version includes it, the editors of the RSV and NIV versions have removed it. It is an interpolation not found in any Greek manuscript before the 16th century.

The Gospel of John, verses 7:53-8:11, detail the story of the adulteress who is about to be stoned. Jesus says: 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone'. This is a later addition to the New Testament that does not exist in any manuscript before the 5th century, and the vast majority of manuscripts prior to the 8th century do not contain it.

The Codex Vaticanus, one of the earliest surviving manuscripts of the NT has a scribal comment in the margin that gives us an important insight:
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There are large gaps between the time of writing, and the dates of the earliest surviving manuscripts. Given these gaps in transmission, how can we be sure that what you claim today to be the Bible matches the earliest copies, when there are no surviving early copies to compare against? Moreover, these manuscripts are highly fragmentary; they represent only tiny portions of the Gospels. Since the manuscripts we do possess, most of which date to as late as the 10th century after Jesus, show evidence of tampering, the chances that there would also be fabrications and interpolations in the earlier manuscripts are also high.

By contrast, the Quran says: "We have sent down the Qur’an Ourself, and We Ourself will guard it” [15:9].
 

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InshaaAllah someone else will reply to your other points but I will reply to one point. The Qur'aan does not encoruge us to read the Bible.
Please see: Suras 2:53, 2:89-93, 3:1-3, 3:48-50, 4:54, 5:46-50, 6:91-92, 6:154-157, 7:157, 9:111, 11:17, 15:9-10, 17:2-4, 21:48, 23:20, 23:49, 25:35, 28:1-3, 32:23, 35:25-32, 37:117, 40:53, 40:70, 41:45, 42:14-17, 45:16, 46:12, 46:30, 48:29, 53:36-47, 57:25-29, 61:6, 78:2

Sura 2:53. And remember We gave Moses the Scripture and the Criterion (Between right and wrong [The Torah]): there was a chance for you to be guided aright.

Sura 2:87-93
2:87. We gave Moses The Book (The Torah) and followed him up with a succession of Apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the Holy Spirit (Christ). Is it that whenever there comes to you an Apostle with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay!
2:88. They say, "Our hearts (Jere. 17:9) are the wrappings (which preserve God's Word: we need no more)." Nay, The "I AM"'s curse is on them for their blasphemy: Little it is that they believe.
2:89. And when there comes to them a Book from God, confirming what is with them,- although from of old they had prayed for victory against those without Faith,- when there comes to them that which they (should) have recognised, they refuse to believe it but the curse of God is on those without Faith.
2:90. Miserable is the price for which they have sold their souls, in that they deny (the revelation) which God has sent down, in insolent rejection that God, from His Grace, should send it to any of His servants that it pleases Him to [as is His Right]: thus have they drawn on themselves Wrath upon Wrath. And humiliating is the punishment of those who reject Faith.
2:91. When it is said to them, "Believe in what God hath sent down," they say, "We believe in what was sent down to us": yet they reject all besides, even if it be Truth confirming what is with them. Say: "Why then have ye slain the Prophets of God in times gone by, if ye did indeed believe?"
2:92. There came to you Moses with Clear (Signs) yet ye worshipped the Calf (even) after that, and ye did behave wrongfully.
2:93. And remember We took your Covenant and We raised above you (the towering height) of Mount (Sinai): (Saying): "Hold firmly to what We have given you, and hearken (to The Law)": they said: "We hear, and we disobey": and they had to drink into their hearts (of the taint) of the Calf because of their Faithlessness. Say: "Vile indeed are the behests of your Faith if ye have any faith!"

Sura 3:1-3
3:1. A. L. M. (Almighty. Loving. Merciful.)
3:2. Allah (God). There is no God but He,- the Living, the Self-Existing (YHWH - "I AM"), Eternal.
3:3. It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it and He sent down The Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the Criterion (of Judgment between right and wrong).

Sura 3:48-50
3:48. "And God will teach him the Book (Torah) and Wisdom, The Law and the Gospel,
3:49. "And (appoint him) an Apostle to the Children of Israel, (with this message): "'I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by God's leave: and I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I enliven the dead, by God's leave and I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe;
3:50. "'(I have come to you), to affirm The Law which was before me. And to make lawful to you part of what was (before) forbidden to you; I have come to you with a Sign from your Lord. So fear God, and obey me.

Sura 4:54. Or do they envy mankind for what God hath given them of His Bounty? But We had already given the people of Abraham the Book (Torah) and Wisdom, and conferred upon them a great kingdom.

Sura 5:46-50
5:46. But why do they come to thee for decision, when they have (their own) Law (the Torah) before them?- therein is the (plain) command of "I AM"; yet even after that, they would turn away. For they are not (really) People of Faith.
5:47. It was We Who revealed The Law (to Moses): therein is Guidance and Light. By its Standard (Criterion) have been judged the Jews, by the Prophets who bowed to "I AM"'s Will; the Rabbis and the Doctors of Law: for to them was entrusted the protection of "I AM"'s Book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear Me, and sell not My Signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the Light of) what "I AM" hath revealed, they are (no better than) Unbelievers.
5:48. We ordained therein for them: "Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself (Matt. 5:44). And if any fail to judge by (the Light of) what "I AM" hath revealed, they are (no better than) wrong-doers (and are the accomplices of the wrong-doers and equally guilty).
5:49. And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming The Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein is Guidance and Light, and confirmation of The Law that had come before him: a Guidance and a Warning to those who fear "I AM".
5:50. Let the People of the Gospel judge by what "I AM" hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the Light of) what "I AM" hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel (and are equally guilty).

Sura 6:91-92
6:91. No just estimate of "I AM" do they make when they say: "Nothing doth "I AM" send down to man (by way of revelation)": say: "Who then sent down the Book (Torah) which Moses brought?- a Light and Guidance to man: but ye make it into (separate) sheets for show, while ye conceal much (of its contents): therein were ye taught that which ye knew not- neither ye nor your fathers." Say: "("I AM") (sent it down)": then leave them to plunge in vain discourse and trifling.
6:92. And this is a Book which We have sent down, bringing blessings, and confirming (the revelations) which came before it: that thou mayest warn the Mother of Cities (Jerusalem - Isaiah 1:1, 21; Matt. 23:37) and all around her (just like almost all of the previous Prophets were also told to do). Those who believe in the Hereafter (also) believe this (Book), and they are constant in guarding their prayers.

Sura 6:154-157
6:154. Moreover, We gave Moses the Book (Torah), COMPLETING (Our favour) to those who would do right, and explaining ALL things IN DETAIL,- and a GUIDE and a MERCY, that they might believe in the meeting with their Lord.
6:155. And this (Torah) is a Book which We have revealed as a BLESSING: so follow it and be righteous, that YE may receive mercy (Sura 32:23):
6:156. Lest YE should say: "The Book (Torah) was sent down to two Peoples before us, and for our part, we remained unacquainted with all that they learned by careful study:"
6:157. Or lest YE should say: "If the Book (Torah) had only been sent down to US, we should have FOLLOWED its guidance BETTER than they (Sura 32:23)." Now then hath come unto YOU a clear (Sign) from your Lord,- and a GUIDE and a MERCY: then who could do MORE WRONG than one who rejecteth "I AM"'s Signs (and Torah - Bible), and turneth away therefrom? In good time shall We requite those who turn away from Our Signs, with a dreadful penalty, for their turning away.

Sura 7:157-158
7:157. "Those who follow The Apostle, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (Scriptures - the Bible),- in The Law (Torah) and the Gospel (New Testament - Covenant);- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); he releases them from their heavy burdens (Matthew 23:1-4) and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe him, honour him, help him, and follow the Light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper (King of kings' Bible - John 8:3, KJV John 8:12)."
7:158. Say: "O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of "I AM", to Whom belongeth the Dominion of the heavens and the Earth: there is no god but He: it is He That giveth both life and death. So believe in "I AM" and His Messenger, the Unlettered Prophet (John 7:15-19), who believeth "I AM" and His words: follow him that (so) ye may be guided (by "The Way" - John 14:6)."

And Who is the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (Scriptures - the Bible),- in The Law (Torah) and the Gospel (New Testament - Covenant) and endowed with the Holy Spirit?

John 7:15-19
7:15 And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man "Letters", having never been taught?
7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but His that sent me.
7:17 If any man will do His will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or [whether] I speak of myself.
7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh His glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.
7:19 Did not Moses give you The Law, and [yet] NONE of you keepeth The Law? Why go ye about to kill me?

Sura 9:111. "I AM" hath purchased from the Believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the Garden (of Bliss): they fight in His Cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in Truth, through The Law (Torah), the Gospel (New Testament/Covenant), and the Koran: and who is more faithful to His Covenant (in the Bible) than "I AM"? Then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded (to fulfill The Covenant of "I AM" written in the Bible): that is the achievement supreme.

Sura 11:17. Can they be (like) those who accept a Clear (Sign) from their Lord, and whom a witness from Himself doth teach, as did the Book of Moses (the Torah) before it,- a guide and a mercy? They believe therein but those of the Sects that reject it,- the Fire will be their promised meeting-place. Be not then in doubt thereon: for it is the Truth from thy Lord: yet many among men do not believe!

Sura 15:9-10
15:9. We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).
15:10. We did send Apostles before thee amongst the religious sects (John 17:21; Sura 6:159) of OLD:

Sura 17:2-4
17:2. We gave Moses the Book (Torah), and made it a Guide to the Children of Israel, (commanding): "Take no-one and nothing other than Me as Disposer of (your) affairs."
17:3. O ye that are sprung from those whom We carried (in the Ark) with Noah! Verily he was a most grateful devotee.
17:4. And We gave (Clear) Warning to the Children of Israel in the Book (Bible), that twice would they do mischief on the earth and be elated with mighty arrogance (and twice would they be punished - Enoch 90:6-9; Matt. 24:37-39)!

Sura 21:48. In the past We granted to Moses and Aaron the Criterion (Torah) (for Judgment), and a Light and a Message for those who would do right,-

Sura 23:20. Also a "tree" (of Knowledge) springing out of Mount Sinai (the Torah), which produces "oil" (of enlightenment), and enjoyment for those who use it for food (spiritual food).

Sura 23:49. And We gave Moses the Book (Torah), in order that they might receive Guidance.

Sura 25:35. (Before this,) We sent Moses The Book (Torah), and appointed his brother Aaron with him as minister;

Sura 28:1-3
28:1. Ta. Sin. Mim. (The Story of Moses - T.S.M.)
28:2. These are Verses from the Book (Torah) that makes (things) clear.
28:3. We rehearse to thee some of the story of Moses and Pharaoh in Truth, for people who believe.

Sura 32:23. We did indeed aforetime give the Book (Torah) to Moses: be then NOT IN DOUBT of its (The Torah) reaching (THEE): and We made it a Guide to the Children of Israel.

Sura 35:25-32
35:25. And if they reject thee, so did their predecessors, to whom came their Apostles with Clear Signs, Books of dark prophecies, and the Book of Enlightenment (Torah).
35:26. In the end did I punish those who rejected Faith: and how (terrible) was My rejection (of them)!
35:27. Seest thou not that "I AM" sends down rain from the sky? With it We then bring out produce of various colours. And in the mountains are tracts white and red, of various shades of colour, and black intense in hue.
35:28. And so amongst men and crawling creatures and cattle, are they of various colours. Those truly fear "I AM", among His Servants, who have Knowledge: for "I AM" is Almighty, Oft-Forgiving.
35:29. Those who rehearse the Book of "I AM", establish constant Prayer, and spend (in Charity) out of what We have provided for them, secretly and openly, hope for a Commerce that will never fail:
35:30. For He will pay them their merit, nay, He will give them (even) more out of His Bounty: for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Ready to appreciate (service).
35:31. That which We have revealed to thee about the Book (Bible) is the Truth,- confirming what was (revealed) before: for "I AM" is assuredly - with respect to His Servants - well acquainted and Fully Observant.
35:32. Then We have given the Book (Bible) for inheritance to such of Our Servants as We have chosen: but there are among them some who wrong their own souls; some who follow a middle course; and some who are, by "I AM"'s leave, foremost in good deeds; that is the Highest Grace.

Sura 37:117. And We gave them the Book (Torah) which helps to make things clear;

Sura 40:53. We did aforetime give Moses the (Book of) Guidance (Torah), and We gave the Book in inheritance to the Children of Israel,-

Sura 40:70. Those who reject the Book (Bible) and the (Revelations) with which We sent our Apostles: but soon shall they know,-

Sura 41:45. We CERTAINLY gave Moses the Book aforetime: but disputes arose thereat. Had it not been for a Word that went forth before from thy Lord, (their differences) would have been settled between them: but they remained in suspicious disquieting doubt thereon.

Sura 42:14-17
42:14. And they became divided only after Knowledge reached them,- through selfish envy between themselves. Had it not been for a Word that went forth before from thy Lord, (tending) to a Term appointed, the matter would have been settled between them: but truly those who have inherited the Book (Torah) after them are in suspicious (disquieting) doubt concerning it.
42:15. Now then, for that (reason), call (them to the Faith), and stand steadfast as thou art commanded, nor follow thou their vain desires but say: "I believe the Book (Bible) which "I AM" has sent down and I am commanded to judge justly between you. "I AM" is our Lord and your Lord: for us (is the responsibility for) our deeds, and for you for your deeds. There is no contention between us and you. "I AM" will bring us together, and to Him is (our) Final Goal.
42:16. But those who dispute concerning "I AM" after He has been accepted,- futile is their dispute in the Sight of their Lord: on them will be a Penalty terrible.
42:17. It is "I AM" Who has sent down the Book (Bible) in Truth, and the Balance (Torah - Sura 6:154-157; 57:25) (by which to weigh conduct). And what will make thee realise that perhaps the Hour is close at hand?

Sura 45:16. We did aforetime grant to the Children of Israel the Book (Bible), the Power of Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good and pure; and We favoured them above the nations.

Sura 46:12. And before this, was the Book of Moses (Torah) as a guide and a mercy: and this Book CONFIRMS (it - the Torah) in the Arabic tongue; to warn the unjust, and as Good News to those who do right.

Sura 46:30. They said, "O our people! We have heard a Book revealed after Moses, confirming what came before it: it guides (men) to the Truth and to The Straight Way.

Sura 48:29. Muhammad is the Apostle of "I AM"; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other. Thou wilt see them bow and prostrate themselves (in prayer), seeking Grace from "I AM" and (His) Good Pleasure. On their faces are their marks, (being) the traces of their prostration. This is their similitude in the Taurat (Torah); and their similitude in the Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade (Rev. 1:16), then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight. As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them. "I AM" has promised those among them who believe and do righteous deeds Forgiveness, and a great Reward.

Sura 53:36-47
53:36. Nay, is he not acquainted with what is in the Books of Moses-
53:37. And about Abraham who fulfilled his commitments?-
53:38. Namely, that no bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another;
53:39. That man can have nothing but what he strives for;
53:40. That (the fruit of) his striving will soon come in sight;
53:41. Then will he be rewarded with a reward complete;
53:42. That to thy Lord is the final Goal;
53:43. That it is He Who granteth Laughter and Tears;
53:44. That it is He Who granteth Death and Life;
53:45. That He did create in pairs,- male and female,
53:46. From a seed when lodged (in its place);
53:47. That He hath promised a Second Creation (Resurrection of the Dead);

Sura 57:25-29
57:25. We sent aforetime our Apostles with Clear Signs and sent down with them the Book (Torah) and the Balance (of Right and Wrong) (The Covenant), that men may stand forth in justice and We sent down Iron, in which is (material for) mighty war, as well as many benefits for mankind, that "I AM" may test who it is that will help, unseen, Him and His Apostles: for "I AM" is Full of Strength, Almighty (and able to enforce His Will).
57:26. And We sent Noah and Abraham, and established in their line Prophethood and Revelation: and some of them were on right guidance. But many of them became rebellious transgressors.
57:27. Then, in their wake, We followed them up with (others of) Our Apostles: We sent after them Jesus the son of Mary, and bestowed on him the Gospel and We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him Compassion and Mercy. But the Monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them: (We commanded) only the seeking for the Good Pleasure of "I AM"; but, that they did not foster as they should have done. Yet We bestowed, on those among them who believed, their (due) reward, but many of them are rebellious transgressors.
57:28. O ye that believe! Fear "I AM", and believe in His Messenger, and He will bestow on you a double portion of His Mercy: He will provide for you a Light by which ye shall walk (straight in your path), and He will forgive you (your past): for "I AM" is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
57:29. That the People of the Book (Bible) may know that they have no power whatever over the Grace of "I AM", that (His) Grace is (entirely) in His Hand, to bestow it on whomsoever He wills. For "I AM" is the Lord of Grace abounding.

Sura 61:6. And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the Apostle of "I AM" (sent) to you, CONFIRMING The Law (which came) before me (the Torah), and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be the Comforter (John 16:7-15)." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!"

Sura 78:2. Concerning the Gospel (Great News),

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The Koran was intended to be A CONFIRMATION of what went before; Mohammad (peace be upon him) was NOT sent to start a new religion.

(Sura 2:97-98, 3:1-3, 4:47, 5:51, 6:92-94, 6:154-157, 10:37, 12:111, 22:52, 35:31, 46:12, 61:6-7)

Sura 2:97-98
2:97. Say: "Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel - for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by God's Will, A CONFIRMATION OF WHAT WENT BEFORE, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-
2:98. Whoever is an enemy to God and His angels and Apostles, to Gabriel and Michael (Daniel 12:1; Rev. 12:7),- Lo! God is an enemy to those who reject Faith."

Sura 3:1-3
3:1. A. L. M. (Almighty. Loving. Merciful.)
3:2. Allah (God). There is no God but He,- the Living, the Self-Existing (YHWH - "I AM"), Eternal.
3:3. It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Koran, CONFIRMING WHAT WENT BEFORE IT and He sent down The Law (of Moses) and The Gospel (of Jesus) BEFORE THIS, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down The Criterion (of Judgment between right and wrong).

Sura 4:47. O ye People of The Book! Believe in what We have (now) revealed, CONFIRMING WHAT WAS (ALREADY) WITH YOU, before We change the face and fame of some (of you) beyond all recognition, and turn them hindwards, or curse them as We cursed the Sabbath-breakers, for the decision of God MUST be carried out.

Sura 5:51. To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, CONFIRMING THE SCRIPTURE THAT CAME BEFORE IT, and guarding it in safety (Sura 32:23): so judge between them by what "I AM" hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires (Sura 9:107-111), diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have We prescribed The Law and The Open Way (Matt. 7:13-14). If "I AM" had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His Plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to "I AM"; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters about which ye dispute;

Sura 6:92-94
6:92. And this (Koran) is a Book which We have sent down, bringing blessings, AND CONFIRMING (THE REVELATIONS) WHICH CAME BEFORE IT: that thou mayest warn the Mother of Cities (Jerusalem - Isaiah 1:1, 21; Matt. 23:37) and all around her (just like almost all of the previous Prophets were also told to do). Those who believe in the Hereafter (also) believe this (Book), and they are constant in guarding their prayers.
6:93. Who can be more wicked than one who inventeth a lie against "I AM", or saith, "I have received inspiration," when he hath received none, or (again) who saith, "I can reveal the like of what "I AM" hath revealed"? If thou couldst but see how the wicked (do fare) in the flood of confusion at death! - The angels stretch forth their hands, (saying),"Yield up your souls/Beings: this day shall ye receive your reward,- a penalty of shame, for that ye used to tell lies against "I AM", and scornfully to reject of His Signs!
6:94. And behold! Ye come to us bare and alone as We created you for the first time: ye have left behind you all (the favours) which We bestowed on you: We see not with you your intercessors whom ye thought to be partners in your affairs: so now all relations between you have been cut off, and your (pet) fancies have left you in the lurch!"

Sura 6:154-157
6:154. Moreover, We gave Moses The Book (The Torah), COMPLETING (Our favour) to those who would do right, and explaining ALL things IN DETAIL,- and a GUIDE and a MERCY, that they might believe in the meeting with their Lord.
6:155. And this (Torah) is a Book which We have revealed as a BLESSING: so follow it and be righteous, that YE may receive mercy (Sura 32:23):
6:156. Lest YE should say: "The Book (The Torah) was sent down to two Peoples before us, and for our part, we remained unacquainted with all that they learned by careful study:"
6:157. Or lest YE should say: "If The Book (The Torah) had only been sent down to US, we should have FOLLOWED its guidance BETTER than they (Sura 32:23)." Now then hath come unto YOU a clear (Sign) from your Lord,- and a GUIDE and a MERCY: then who could do MORE WRONG than one who rejecteth "I AM"'s Signs (and The Torah - Bible), and turneth away therefrom? In good time shall We requite those who turn away from Our Signs, with a dreadful penalty, for their turning away.

Sura 10:37-38
10:37. This Koran is not such as can be produced by other than "I AM"; on the contrary IT IS A CONFIRMATION OF (REVELATIONS) THAT WENT BEFORE IT, and a fuller explanation of The Book (Bible - on some issues) - wherein there is no doubt - from The Lord of The Worlds.
10:38. Or do they say, "He forged it"? Say: "Bring then A SURA like unto it, and call (to your aid) anyone you can besides "I AM", if it be ye speak the truth!"

Sura 12:111. There is, in their stories, instruction for men endued with understanding. It is not a tale invented, BUT A CONFIRMATION OF WHAT WENT BEFORE IT,- a detailed exposition of all things, and a Guide and a Mercy to any such as believe.

Sura 22:52. Never did We send an Apostle or a Prophet before thee, but, when he framed a desire, Satan threw some (vanity) into his desire: but "I AM" will cancel anything (vain) that Satan throws in, and "I AM" WILL CONFIRM (AND ESTABLISH) HIS SIGNS (Sura 32:23): for "I AM" is full of Knowledge and Wisdom:

Sura 35:31. That which We have revealed to thee about The Book (Bible) is the Truth,- CONFIRMING WHAT WAS (REVEALED) BEFORE: for "I AM" is assuredly - with respect to His Servants - well acquainted and Fully Observant.

Sura 46:12. And before this, was the Book of Moses (The Torah - The Law) as a guide and a mercy: and THIS BOOK CONFIRMS (IT - THE TORAH) IN THE ARABIC TONGUE; to warn the unjust, and as Good News to those who do right.

Sura 61:6-7
61:6. And REMEMBER, JESUS, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the Apostle of "I AM" (sent) to you, CONFIRMING The Law (which came) before me (the Torah), and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be the Comforter (John 16:7-15)." But when he came to them with Clear Signs (John 14:15-18), they said, "this is evident sorcery (Sura 32:23)!"
61:7. Who doth greater wrong than one who invents falsehood against "I AM" (Sura 6:154-157), even as he is being invited to do His Will? And "I AM" guides not those who do wrong (Satan does).

Sura 6:122. Can he who WAS dead (Jesus), to whom We gave life (John 11:25, Acts 2:31-32, 3:15, Gal. 1:1), and a Light (Mal. 4:2, Matt. 24:27, John 8:3) with which he walks amongst men (Christ), be like him who is in the depths of darkness (Lucifer 2 Cor. 11:13-15), from which he can never come out? Thus to those without Faith their own deeds* seem pleasing (Deut. 12:8, Sura 4:142).

*the rites and rituals of their organized religions

Sura 3:55-56
3:55. Behold! God said: "O Jesus! I WILL take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee SUPERIOR to those who reject faith, to The Day of Resurrection: then shall ye all return unto Me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.
3:56. As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Here is a translation of the verses you quoted which all REFUTE you.
And (in due time came the moment) when the angels said: "Mary, God has chosen you and made you pure, and exalted you above all the women in the world.
"Mary, be devoutly obedient to your Lord, prostrate and bow (in the Prayer and devotion to Him) with those who bow!"
O Messenger:) that is of the tidings of the things of the unseen (the things that took place in the past and have remained hidden from people with all their truth), which We reveal to you, for you were not present with them when they drew lots with their pens about who should have charge of Mary; nor were you present with them when they were disputing (about the matter).
And (remember) when the angels said: "Mary, God gives you the glad tidings of a Word from Him, to be called the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary,, highly honored in the world and the Hereafter, and one of those near-stationed to God.
"He will speak to people in the cradle and in manhood, and he is of the righteous."
Lord," said Mary, "how shall I have a son seeing no mortal has ever touched me?" "That is how it is," he (the Spirit who appeared before her) said, (quoting God): "God creates whatever He wills; when He decrees a thing, He does but say to it ‘Be!' and it is.
"And He will teach him the Book and the Wisdom – and the Torah and the Gospel,

May be the last part you think supports you and it doesn't. Allah just says Jesus will teach Torah and Gospel which he did but it was altered by human beings such as Paul and others.
Sura 15:9-10
15:9. We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will ASSUREDLY guard it (from corruption).
15:10. We did send Apostles before thee amongst the religious sects (John 17:21; Sura 6:159) of OLD:

32:23. We did indeed aforetime give The Book (The Torah) to Moses: be then NOT IN DOUBT of its (The Torah) reaching (THEE): and We made it a Guide to the Children of Israel.

Sura 3:42-56
3:42. Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! God hath chosen thee and PURIFIED thee- CHOSEN thee above the women of ALL nations.
3:43. O Mary! worship Thy Lord devoutly: prostrate thyself, and bow down (in prayer) with those who bow down."
3:44. This is part of the tidings of the things unseen, which We reveal unto thee (O Messenger!) by inspiration: thou wast not with them when they cast lots with arrows, as to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary: nor wast thou with them when they disputed (the point).
3:45. Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! God giveth thee glad tidings of The Word (John 1:1-5) from Him: he will be called Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those NEAREST to God.
3:46. He shall speak to the people in childhood (Luke 2:40-47) and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous."
3:47. She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" He said: "Even so: God createth what He willeth: when He hath decreed a plan, He only saith to it, 'Be,' and it is!
3:48. And God will teach him The Book (Old Covenant) and Wisdom, The Law (The Torah) and The Gospel (note: which is why He didn't need to be taught "letters" by men),
3:49. And (appoint him) an Apostle to the Children of Israel, (with this message): "'I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by God's leave: and I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I enliven the dead, by God's leave and I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe;
3:50. (I have come to you), to affirm The Law which was before me (Matt. 5:17-20). And to make lawful to you part of what was (before) forbidden to you; I have come to you with a Sign from your Lord. So fear God, and obey me.
3:51. It is God Who is my Lord and your Lord then worship Him (John 20:17, 1 Cor. 11:3). This is The Way that is Straight (Matt. 7:13-14, John 14:6)'."
3:52. When Jesus found Unbelief on their part he said: "Who will be My helpers to (the work of) God." Said the disciples: "We are God's helpers: we believe in God, and do thou bear witness that we are "True in Faith".
3:53. Our Lord! we believe in what Thou hast revealed, and we follow the Messenger; then write us down among those who bear witness."
3:54. And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and God too planned, and the best of planners is God.
3:55. Behold! God said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee SUPERIOR to those who reject faith, to The Day of Resurrection: then shall ye all return unto Me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.
3:56. As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Sura 19:16-21
19:16. Relate in the Book (the story of) Mary, when she withdrew from her family (in Britain) to a place in the East (Israel).
19:17. She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent her Our angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects.
19:18. She said: "I seek refuge from thee to ("I AM") Most Gracious: (come not near) if thou dost fear "I AM"."
19:19. He said: "Nay, I am only a messenger from thy Lord, (to announce) to thee the gift of an Holy son."
19:20. She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?"
19:21. He said: "So (it will be): Thy Lord saith, 'That is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us': it is a matter (so) decreed (in Prophecy)."
19:22. So she conceived him, and she retired with him to a remote place.

Sura 43:57. When (Jesus) the son of Mary is held up as an example (John 14:6), behold, THY people raise a clamour thereat (in ridicule)!
 

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Many Prophets are referred to as the son of God throughout the Bible...How come when 'son' is used in reference to Jesus it has a capital 'S' when the orignal Hebrew/Aramaic manuscrips had no capital letters?..

1- All Christians are sons and daughters of God..:)-
"What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?..Come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord, I will be a Father to you, and you shall be my sons and daughters" (2 Cor 6:14-18 )

2- Jesus however was in a class of his own, he never said he was "a" son of God, he said he was THE Son of God, so he merits a capital 'S'. Anyway the New T was written in Greek which had a capital 'S', not Hebrew/Aramaic.
 
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Please see: Suras 2:53, 2:89-93, 3:1-3, 3:48-50, 4:54, 5:46-50, 6:91-92, 6:154-157, 7:157, 9:111, 11:17, 15:9-10, 17:2-4, 21:48, 23:20, 23:49, 25:35, 28:1-3, 32:23, 35:25-32, 37:117, 40:53, 40:70, 41:45, 42:14-17, 45:16, 46:12, 46:30, 48:29, 53:36-47, 57:25-29, 61:6, 78:2

Sura 2:53. And remember We gave Moses the Scripture and the Criterion (Between right and wrong [The Torah]): there was a chance for you to be guided aright.

Sura 2:87-93
2:87. We gave Moses The Book (The Torah) and followed him up with a succession of Apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the Holy Spirit (Christ). Is it that whenever there comes to you an Apostle with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay!
2:88. They say, "Our hearts (Jere. 17:9) are the wrappings (which preserve God's Word: we need no more)." Nay, The "I AM"'s curse is on them for their blasphemy: Little it is that they believe.
2:89. And when there comes to them a Book from God, confirming what is with them,- although from of old they had prayed for victory against those without Faith,- when there comes to them that which they (should) have recognised, they refuse to believe it but the curse of God is on those without Faith.
2:90. Miserable is the price for which they have sold their souls, in that they deny (the revelation) which God has sent down, in insolent rejection that God, from His Grace, should send it to any of His servants that it pleases Him to [as is His Right]: thus have they drawn on themselves Wrath upon Wrath. And humiliating is the punishment of those who reject Faith.
2:91. When it is said to them, "Believe in what God hath sent down," they say, "We believe in what was sent down to us": yet they reject all besides, even if it be Truth confirming what is with them. Say: "Why then have ye slain the Prophets of God in times gone by, if ye did indeed believe?"
2:92. There came to you Moses with Clear (Signs) yet ye worshipped the Calf (even) after that, and ye did behave wrongfully.
2:93. And remember We took your Covenant and We raised above you (the towering height) of Mount (Sinai): (Saying): "Hold firmly to what We have given you, and hearken (to The Law)": they said: "We hear, and we disobey": and they had to drink into their hearts (of the taint) of the Calf because of their Faithlessness. Say: "Vile indeed are the behests of your Faith if ye have any faith!"

Sura 3:1-3
3:1. A. L. M. (Almighty. Loving. Merciful.)
3:2. Allah (God). There is no God but He,- the Living, the Self-Existing (YHWH - "I AM"), Eternal.
3:3. It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it and He sent down The Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the Criterion (of Judgment between right and wrong).

Sura 3:48-50
3:48. "And God will teach him the Book (Torah) and Wisdom, The Law and the Gospel,
3:49. "And (appoint him) an Apostle to the Children of Israel, (with this message): "'I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by God's leave: and I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I enliven the dead, by God's leave and I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe;
3:50. "'(I have come to you), to affirm The Law which was before me. And to make lawful to you part of what was (before) forbidden to you; I have come to you with a Sign from your Lord. So fear God, and obey me.

Sura 4:54. Or do they envy mankind for what God hath given them of His Bounty? But We had already given the people of Abraham the Book (Torah) and Wisdom, and conferred upon them a great kingdom.

Sura 5:46-50
5:46. But why do they come to thee for decision, when they have (their own) Law (the Torah) before them?- therein is the (plain) command of "I AM"; yet even after that, they would turn away. For they are not (really) People of Faith.
5:47. It was We Who revealed The Law (to Moses): therein is Guidance and Light. By its Standard (Criterion) have been judged the Jews, by the Prophets who bowed to "I AM"'s Will; the Rabbis and the Doctors of Law: for to them was entrusted the protection of "I AM"'s Book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear Me, and sell not My Signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the Light of) what "I AM" hath revealed, they are (no better than) Unbelievers.
5:48. We ordained therein for them: "Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself (Matt. 5:44). And if any fail to judge by (the Light of) what "I AM" hath revealed, they are (no better than) wrong-doers (and are the accomplices of the wrong-doers and equally guilty).
5:49. And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming The Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein is Guidance and Light, and confirmation of The Law that had come before him: a Guidance and a Warning to those who fear "I AM".
5:50. Let the People of the Gospel judge by what "I AM" hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the Light of) what "I AM" hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel (and are equally guilty).

Sura 6:91-92
6:91. No just estimate of "I AM" do they make when they say: "Nothing doth "I AM" send down to man (by way of revelation)": say: "Who then sent down the Book (Torah) which Moses brought?- a Light and Guidance to man: but ye make it into (separate) sheets for show, while ye conceal much (of its contents): therein were ye taught that which ye knew not- neither ye nor your fathers." Say: "("I AM") (sent it down)": then leave them to plunge in vain discourse and trifling.
6:92. And this is a Book which We have sent down, bringing blessings, and confirming (the revelations) which came before it: that thou mayest warn the Mother of Cities (Jerusalem - Isaiah 1:1, 21; Matt. 23:37) and all around her (just like almost all of the previous Prophets were also told to do). Those who believe in the Hereafter (also) believe this (Book), and they are constant in guarding their prayers.

Sura 6:154-157
6:154. Moreover, We gave Moses the Book (Torah), COMPLETING (Our favour) to those who would do right, and explaining ALL things IN DETAIL,- and a GUIDE and a MERCY, that they might believe in the meeting with their Lord.
6:155. And this (Torah) is a Book which We have revealed as a BLESSING: so follow it and be righteous, that YE may receive mercy (Sura 32:23):
6:156. Lest YE should say: "The Book (Torah) was sent down to two Peoples before us, and for our part, we remained unacquainted with all that they learned by careful study:"
6:157. Or lest YE should say: "If the Book (Torah) had only been sent down to US, we should have FOLLOWED its guidance BETTER than they (Sura 32:23)." Now then hath come unto YOU a clear (Sign) from your Lord,- and a GUIDE and a MERCY: then who could do MORE WRONG than one who rejecteth "I AM"'s Signs (and Torah - Bible), and turneth away therefrom? In good time shall We requite those who turn away from Our Signs, with a dreadful penalty, for their turning away.

Sura 7:157-158
7:157. "Those who follow The Apostle, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (Scriptures - the Bible),- in The Law (Torah) and the Gospel (New Testament - Covenant);- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); he releases them from their heavy burdens (Matthew 23:1-4) and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe him, honour him, help him, and follow the Light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper (King of kings' Bible - John 8:3, KJV John 8:12)."
7:158. Say: "O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of "I AM", to Whom belongeth the Dominion of the heavens and the Earth: there is no god but He: it is He That giveth both life and death. So believe in "I AM" and His Messenger, the Unlettered Prophet (John 7:15-19), who believeth "I AM" and His words: follow him that (so) ye may be guided (by "The Way" - John 14:6)."

And Who is the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (Scriptures - the Bible),- in The Law (Torah) and the Gospel (New Testament - Covenant) and endowed with the Holy Spirit?

John 7:15-19
7:15 And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man "Letters", having never been taught?
7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but His that sent me.
7:17 If any man will do His will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or [whether] I speak of myself.
7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh His glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.
7:19 Did not Moses give you The Law, and [yet] NONE of you keepeth The Law? Why go ye about to kill me?

Sura 9:111. "I AM" hath purchased from the Believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the Garden (of Bliss): they fight in His Cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in Truth, through The Law (Torah), the Gospel (New Testament/Covenant), and the Koran: and who is more faithful to His Covenant (in the Bible) than "I AM"? Then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded (to fulfill The Covenant of "I AM" written in the Bible): that is the achievement supreme.

Sura 11:17. Can they be (like) those who accept a Clear (Sign) from their Lord, and whom a witness from Himself doth teach, as did the Book of Moses (the Torah) before it,- a guide and a mercy? They believe therein but those of the Sects that reject it,- the Fire will be their promised meeting-place. Be not then in doubt thereon: for it is the Truth from thy Lord: yet many among men do not believe!

Sura 15:9-10
15:9. We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).
15:10. We did send Apostles before thee amongst the religious sects (John 17:21; Sura 6:159) of OLD:

Sura 17:2-4
17:2. We gave Moses the Book (Torah), and made it a Guide to the Children of Israel, (commanding): "Take no-one and nothing other than Me as Disposer of (your) affairs."
17:3. O ye that are sprung from those whom We carried (in the Ark) with Noah! Verily he was a most grateful devotee.
17:4. And We gave (Clear) Warning to the Children of Israel in the Book (Bible), that twice would they do mischief on the earth and be elated with mighty arrogance (and twice would they be punished - Enoch 90:6-9; Matt. 24:37-39)!

Sura 21:48. In the past We granted to Moses and Aaron the Criterion (Torah) (for Judgment), and a Light and a Message for those who would do right,-

Sura 23:20. Also a "tree" (of Knowledge) springing out of Mount Sinai (the Torah), which produces "oil" (of enlightenment), and enjoyment for those who use it for food (spiritual food).

Sura 23:49. And We gave Moses the Book (Torah), in order that they might receive Guidance.

Sura 25:35. (Before this,) We sent Moses The Book (Torah), and appointed his brother Aaron with him as minister;

Sura 28:1-3
28:1. Ta. Sin. Mim. (The Story of Moses - T.S.M.)
28:2. These are Verses from the Book (Torah) that makes (things) clear.
28:3. We rehearse to thee some of the story of Moses and Pharaoh in Truth, for people who believe.

Sura 32:23. We did indeed aforetime give the Book (Torah) to Moses: be then NOT IN DOUBT of its (The Torah) reaching (THEE): and We made it a Guide to the Children of Israel.

Sura 35:25-32
35:25. And if they reject thee, so did their predecessors, to whom came their Apostles with Clear Signs, Books of dark prophecies, and the Book of Enlightenment (Torah).
35:26. In the end did I punish those who rejected Faith: and how (terrible) was My rejection (of them)!
35:27. Seest thou not that "I AM" sends down rain from the sky? With it We then bring out produce of various colours. And in the mountains are tracts white and red, of various shades of colour, and black intense in hue.
35:28. And so amongst men and crawling creatures and cattle, are they of various colours. Those truly fear "I AM", among His Servants, who have Knowledge: for "I AM" is Almighty, Oft-Forgiving.
35:29. Those who rehearse the Book of "I AM", establish constant Prayer, and spend (in Charity) out of what We have provided for them, secretly and openly, hope for a Commerce that will never fail:
35:30. For He will pay them their merit, nay, He will give them (even) more out of His Bounty: for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Ready to appreciate (service).
35:31. That which We have revealed to thee about the Book (Bible) is the Truth,- confirming what was (revealed) before: for "I AM" is assuredly - with respect to His Servants - well acquainted and Fully Observant.
35:32. Then We have given the Book (Bible) for inheritance to such of Our Servants as We have chosen: but there are among them some who wrong their own souls; some who follow a middle course; and some who are, by "I AM"'s leave, foremost in good deeds; that is the Highest Grace.

Sura 37:117. And We gave them the Book (Torah) which helps to make things clear;

Sura 40:53. We did aforetime give Moses the (Book of) Guidance (Torah), and We gave the Book in inheritance to the Children of Israel,-

Sura 40:70. Those who reject the Book (Bible) and the (Revelations) with which We sent our Apostles: but soon shall they know,-

Sura 41:45. We CERTAINLY gave Moses the Book aforetime: but disputes arose thereat. Had it not been for a Word that went forth before from thy Lord, (their differences) would have been settled between them: but they remained in suspicious disquieting doubt thereon.

Sura 42:14-17
42:14. And they became divided only after Knowledge reached them,- through selfish envy between themselves. Had it not been for a Word that went forth before from thy Lord, (tending) to a Term appointed, the matter would have been settled between them: but truly those who have inherited the Book (Torah) after them are in suspicious (disquieting) doubt concerning it.
42:15. Now then, for that (reason), call (them to the Faith), and stand steadfast as thou art commanded, nor follow thou their vain desires but say: "I believe the Book (Bible) which "I AM" has sent down and I am commanded to judge justly between you. "I AM" is our Lord and your Lord: for us (is the responsibility for) our deeds, and for you for your deeds. There is no contention between us and you. "I AM" will bring us together, and to Him is (our) Final Goal.
42:16. But those who dispute concerning "I AM" after He has been accepted,- futile is their dispute in the Sight of their Lord: on them will be a Penalty terrible.
42:17. It is "I AM" Who has sent down the Book (Bible) in Truth, and the Balance (Torah - Sura 6:154-157; 57:25) (by which to weigh conduct). And what will make thee realise that perhaps the Hour is close at hand?

Sura 45:16. We did aforetime grant to the Children of Israel the Book (Bible), the Power of Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good and pure; and We favoured them above the nations.

Sura 46:12. And before this, was the Book of Moses (Torah) as a guide and a mercy: and this Book CONFIRMS (it - the Torah) in the Arabic tongue; to warn the unjust, and as Good News to those who do right.

Sura 46:30. They said, "O our people! We have heard a Book revealed after Moses, confirming what came before it: it guides (men) to the Truth and to The Straight Way.

Sura 48:29. Muhammad is the Apostle of "I AM"; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other. Thou wilt see them bow and prostrate themselves (in prayer), seeking Grace from "I AM" and (His) Good Pleasure. On their faces are their marks, (being) the traces of their prostration. This is their similitude in the Taurat (Torah); and their similitude in the Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade (Rev. 1:16), then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight. As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them. "I AM" has promised those among them who believe and do righteous deeds Forgiveness, and a great Reward.

Sura 53:36-47
53:36. Nay, is he not acquainted with what is in the Books of Moses-
53:37. And about Abraham who fulfilled his commitments?-
53:38. Namely, that no bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another;
53:39. That man can have nothing but what he strives for;
53:40. That (the fruit of) his striving will soon come in sight;
53:41. Then will he be rewarded with a reward complete;
53:42. That to thy Lord is the final Goal;
53:43. That it is He Who granteth Laughter and Tears;
53:44. That it is He Who granteth Death and Life;
53:45. That He did create in pairs,- male and female,
53:46. From a seed when lodged (in its place);
53:47. That He hath promised a Second Creation (Resurrection of the Dead);

Sura 57:25-29
57:25. We sent aforetime our Apostles with Clear Signs and sent down with them the Book (Torah) and the Balance (of Right and Wrong) (The Covenant), that men may stand forth in justice and We sent down Iron, in which is (material for) mighty war, as well as many benefits for mankind, that "I AM" may test who it is that will help, unseen, Him and His Apostles: for "I AM" is Full of Strength, Almighty (and able to enforce His Will).
57:26. And We sent Noah and Abraham, and established in their line Prophethood and Revelation: and some of them were on right guidance. But many of them became rebellious transgressors.
57:27. Then, in their wake, We followed them up with (others of) Our Apostles: We sent after them Jesus the son of Mary, and bestowed on him the Gospel and We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him Compassion and Mercy. But the Monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them: (We commanded) only the seeking for the Good Pleasure of "I AM"; but, that they did not foster as they should have done. Yet We bestowed, on those among them who believed, their (due) reward, but many of them are rebellious transgressors.
57:28. O ye that believe! Fear "I AM", and believe in His Messenger, and He will bestow on you a double portion of His Mercy: He will provide for you a Light by which ye shall walk (straight in your path), and He will forgive you (your past): for "I AM" is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
57:29. That the People of the Book (Bible) may know that they have no power whatever over the Grace of "I AM", that (His) Grace is (entirely) in His Hand, to bestow it on whomsoever He wills. For "I AM" is the Lord of Grace abounding.

Sura 61:6. And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the Apostle of "I AM" (sent) to you, CONFIRMING The Law (which came) before me (the Torah), and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be the Comforter (John 16:7-15)." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!"

Sura 78:2. Concerning the Gospel (Great News),

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The Koran was intended to be A CONFIRMATION of what went before; Mohammad (peace be upon him) was NOT sent to start a new religion.

(Sura 2:97-98, 3:1-3, 4:47, 5:51, 6:92-94, 6:154-157, 10:37, 12:111, 22:52, 35:31, 46:12, 61:6-7)

Sura 2:97-98
2:97. Say: "Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel - for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by God's Will, A CONFIRMATION OF WHAT WENT BEFORE, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-
2:98. Whoever is an enemy to God and His angels and Apostles, to Gabriel and Michael (Daniel 12:1; Rev. 12:7),- Lo! God is an enemy to those who reject Faith."

Sura 3:1-3
3:1. A. L. M. (Almighty. Loving. Merciful.)
3:2. Allah (God). There is no God but He,- the Living, the Self-Existing (YHWH - "I AM"), Eternal.
3:3. It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Koran, CONFIRMING WHAT WENT BEFORE IT and He sent down The Law (of Moses) and The Gospel (of Jesus) BEFORE THIS, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down The Criterion (of Judgment between right and wrong).
It is He Who has sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion: and enough is Allah for a Witness. (48:28)

If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good). (3:85)

When Jesus found Unbelief on their part He said: "Who will be My helpers to (the work of) Allah?" Said the disciples: "We are Allah's helpers: We believe in Allah, and do thou bear witness that we are Muslims. (3:52)

It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it). (9:33)

If Allah so willed, He could make you all one people: But He leaves straying whom He pleases, and He guides whom He pleases: but ye shall certainly be called to account for all your actions. (16:93)

Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah's (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah. (3:67)

They say: "[Allah] Most Gracious has begotten a son!" Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous! At it the skies are ready to burst, the earth to split asunder, and the mountains to fall down in utter ruin, That they should invoke a son for [Allah] Most Gracious. For it is not consonant with the majesty of [Allah] Most Gracious that He should beget a son. (19:88-92)

And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah [sent] to you, confirming the Law [which came] before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!" (61:6)

They say: "Become Jews or Christians if ye would be guided [To salvation]." Say thou: "Nay! [I would rather] the Religion of Abraham the True, and he joined not gods with Allah." (2:135)

He to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth: no son has He begotten, nor has He a partner in His dominion: it is He who created all things, and ordered them in due proportions. (25:2)


From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a Covenant, but
they forgot a good part of the Message that was sent them: So We estranged them,
with enmity and hatred between one and the other, to the Day of Judgment. And
soon will Allah show them what it is they have done.

O People of the Book! There hath come to you our Apostle, revealing to you
much that ye used to hide in the Book
, and passing over much (that is now
unnecessary): There hath come to you from Allah a (new) light and a perspicuous
Book, --

Wherewith Allah guideth all who seek His good pleasure to ways of peace and
safety, and leadeth them out of darkness, by His Will, unto the light, --
guideth them to a Path that is Straight.

In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary. Say
"Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His Will were to destroy
Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all--every one that is on the earth? For
to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is
between. He createth what He pleaseth. For Allah hath power over all things."

(Both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are the sons of Allah, and His
beloved." Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins? Nay, ye are but men,
--of the men He hath created: He forgiveth whom He pleaseth. And He punisheth
whom He pleaseth: And to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the
earth, and all that is between: And unto Him is the final goal (of all)."

O People of the Book! Now hath come unto you, making (things) clear unto
you, our Apostle, after the break in (the series of) our apostles, lest ye
should say: "There came unto us no bringer of glad tidings and no warner (from
evil)": But now hath come unto you a bringer of glad tidings and a warner (from
evil).
And Allah hath power over all things.
(5:14-19)

Surah Maidah declares that Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the natural successor to Jesus. All those to whom the Quran's message comes must accept it. The Christians forgot part of the message that came to them. They made a man God besides the Almighty, so God revealed the Quran to correct their idolatry, and to establish the truth after they had distorted it. Muhammad (pbuh) established the true religion on 'laa ilaha ila Allah': that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah.
 
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He wasn't the literal son of God
He was the symbolic, metaphorical son of God which was just a term used to describe the relationship between God and the Logos.
Jesus was an incarnation of the Logos.
I'm right and you're wrong..the end. You're too ignorant of your own religion. Itsn't my fault.

Logic it out mate, Jesus blew people's socks off with his miracles because the awesome power of God his father was flowing through him, heck not even David Blaine could do that stuff, that's why a kid from a carpenter's shop in a tiny village went on to rule the world..:)

Jesus said- "Even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father." (John 10:38 )

The 37 MIRACLES OF JESUS http://www.bcbsr.com/survey/jmrcls.html
Bringing little girl back to life
Bringing widows son back to life
Stilling the storm
Feeding 4000
Walking on sea
Feeding 5000
Coin in fishes mouth
Withering fig tree
Big catch of fish
Water into wine
Another big fish catch
Healing leper
Healing Centurions servant
Healing Peters mother-in-law
Healing sick at evening
Healing paralysed man
Healing haemorraging woman
Healing two blind men
Healing mans withered hand
Healing Canaanite womans daughter
Healing boy with seizures
Healing blind man
Healing deaf and dumb man
Healing another blind man
Healing crippled woman
Healing man with dropsy
Healing 10 lepers
Restoring a cut-off ear
Healing noblemans sons fever
Healing crippled man at Bethesda
Healing a born-blind man
Casting out demons into pigs
Curing a mute lunatic
Casting out dirty spirit
Curing a possessed blind-dumb man
Appeared to his followers after his death
Bringing Lazarus back to life

"Come on out of there mate"
 

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You cannnot grasp the meaning of the Quran without the Arabic.
So our ALL-POWERFUL Creator gave us the Koran (Quran) to be the Gospel of UNITY/BROTHERHOOD, and had it translated into other languages (including English) only to decide it could only be understood by Arab-speaking people? How ridiculous!

Nowhere does the Quran speak of the King of Kings Bible you claim to be the inerrant word of God. The Quran speaks only of the Gospel revealed to Jesus, called the 'Injeel'.
And the "Injeel", i.e. the Gospel (Good News - News from God) that was revealed to Jesus was recorded in the Gospel accounts according to Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and Thomas, in much the same way others recorded what was revealed to Muhammad. There is also Christ's Revelation to John, where we do find reference to the mystery of God being revealed in the Last Days, by the 7th Angel - The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi.

Further, in the Koran (Quran), where Christ is referenced at least 230 times and His followers are held up as SUPERIOR to the faithless who mock Him, it CONFIRMS the prophecies in the Bible of His Second Coming (Sura 43:61). What would you expect the Anointed/Guided One to do during His Second Coming other than UNITE all TRUE Believers (those who are "True in Faith") by sorting out the Scriptures? Do you really believe that our ALL-POWERFUL Creator would allow ANYONE other than His Anointed/Guided One to publish His Word in a Bible entitled The King of kings' Bible, which contains the Old Covenant, New Covenant AND the Koran?

Sura 9:111. "I AM" hath purchased from the Believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the Garden (of Bliss): they fight in His Cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in Truth, through The Law (Torah), the Gospel (New Testament/Covenant), and the Koran: and who is more faithful to His Covenant (in the Bible) than "I AM"? Then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded (to fulfill The Covenant of "I AM" written in the Bible): that is the achievement supreme.

The New Testament was compiled over hundreds of years. No two pages of the 6,000 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament are the same.
https://carm.org/manuscript-evidence

https://www.toughquestionsanswered.org/2012/12/11/how-do-other-ancient-texts-compare-to-the-new-testament/


1 John 5:7, the Johannine Comma, is one of the only places mentioning the trinity. And yet, while the KJV version includes it, the editors of the RSV and NIV versions have removed it. It is an interpolation not found in any Greek manuscript before the 16th century.

The Gospel of John, verses 7:53-8:11, detail the story of the adulteress who is about to be stoned. Jesus says: 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone'. This is a later addition to the New Testament that does not exist in any manuscript before the 5th century, and the vast majority of manuscripts prior to the 8th century do not contain it.
Both of these additions, along with the additions made to Matthew 28:19, have all been discussed here in detail, and corrected in the King of kings' Bible.

King of kings' Bible - 1 John 5:6-8 (the trinitarian wording which was added has been removed)
5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, [even] Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is Truth.
5:7 For there are three that bear record,
5:8 The Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

King of kings' Bible - John 7:53-:11 (the story of the adulterous woman which was added has been removed)
7:53 And every man went unto his own house.
8:1 Jesus went unto the Mount of Olives.
8:2 And early in the morning he came again into The Temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
8:3 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the Light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the Light of Life.
8:4 The politicians therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true.
8:5 Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, [yet] my record is true: for I know whence I came, and where I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and where I go.
8:6 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
8:7 And yet if I judge, my Judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
8:8 It is also written in your Law, that the testimony of two men is true.
8:9 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
8:10 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known my Father, ye should have known me also.
8:11 These words spoke Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in The Temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.
8:12 Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: where I go, ye cannot come.

King of kings' Bible - Matthew 28:19-20
28:19 Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them with the Holy Spirit: in my name (The Saviour),
28:20 Instructing them to observe (and DO) all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, [even] unto the end of the world (age). Amen.

Also, the alterations to the original Koran (Quran) have likewise been corrected, e.g. the substitution of Ishmael for Isaac in Sura 2:125 and 2:127.

Sura 2:125-127
2:125. Remember We made The House a place of assembly for men and a place of safety and take ye The Station of Abraham (Mt. Moriah - Gen. 22:2) as a place of prayer and We Covenanted with Abraham and Isaac (Gen. 17:21), that they should sanctify My House for those who compass it round, or use it as a retreat, or bow, or prostrate themselves (there, in prayer).
2:126. And remember Abraham said: "My Lord, make this a City of PEACE (Jeru-SALEM in Hebrew), and feed its people with fruits,- such of them as believe God and in the Last Day." He said: "(Yea), and such as reject Faith,- for a while will I grant them their pleasure, but will soon drive them to the torment of Fire,- an evil destination (indeed)!"
2:127. And remember Abraham and Isaac (Gen. 17:21, 22:2; Sura 37:101-102, 112-113) raised the foundations of The House (with this prayer): "Our Lord! Accept (this service) from us: For Thou art the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing.

The Bible and Koran, which are the Holy, Inspired Word of God, have built-in error correction, as explained in both The Law and in the Book of Enoch (Idris), as has already been shared several times. Simply put, ALL Scripture MUST agree with itself, and when humans try to tamper with the Word of God, it sticks out as if it were written in different color ink. Once it is seen that something doesn't agree, e.g. the Johannine Comma that you mentioned, it prompts further investigation.

So how do we know that the Koran was altered by the substitution of Ishmael for Isaac? Because it not only doesn't agree with the Bible which came before it, which the Koran was sent to CONFIRM, but it also contradicts the Koran itself.

In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

THE GOOD NEWS OF A BOY
(PROOF that Abraham offered ISAAC)

Sura 37:101 And We gave Abraham the "good news" of a boy ready to suffer and forbear (through the angel messengers We sent to him).

Sura 37:102 Then, when the boy reached the age of serious work with him Abraham said, "O my son! I see in vision that I offer thee in sacrifice."

Sura 37:112 And We gave him the "good news" of Isaac - a prophet - one of the righteous (through the angel messengers We sent to him).

Sura 37:113 We blessed Abraham and Isaac.

Sura 6:84 And We gave Abraham Isaac and Jacob: all three We guided aright.

Sura 38:45-46 And commemorate Our servants Abraham, Isaac (not Ishmael), and Jacob, possessors of Power and Vision. Verily did We choose them for a special purpose - proclaiming the Message of the Hereafter. They were in Our sight, truly, of the company of the Elect and the good.

Sura 11:71 And We gave Abraham the glad tidings ("good news") of Isaac and after him Jacob / Israel (the son of Isaac).

Sura 15:54 "Good news" of a son.

Sura 51:28 Glad tidings ("good news") of a son (Isaac - "laughter" in Hebrew) and Sarah laughed being 90 years old (the word Isaac means laughter and because Sarah laughed the child was named "laughter" - Isaac in Hebrew).

We gave the "good news" means "news from God" via an angel messenger. No angel was ever sent to Abraham to announce the birth of Ishmael and this is born-out by all of the Holy Scriptures. He was born because of Sarai (Sarah) not because of God and was born to an Egyptian surrogate-mother, called Hagar.

All of the references of "good news" refer to Isaac and not to Ishmael, proving that the Meccans changed the name Isaac for Ishmael in Sura 2:125 and 127.

However Ishmael was blessed by God, later, when Abraham, who loved him, asked God to let Ishmael live before God (Genesis 17:18-20).

The Codex Vaticanus, one of the earliest surviving manuscripts of the NT has a scribal comment in the margin that gives us an important insight:
The "Codex Vaticanus" is another sham perpetrated by the Vatican, to promote their evil organized religion and try to discredit the Bible for their master: Satan/the Destroyer, who runs the Roman Catholic church through his crypto-counterfeit Jewish Jesuits and their pope, referred to in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 as "the son of the destroyer". It is NOT "one of the earliest surviving manuscripts of the NT".

Of course the RCC was also instrumental in setting up the organized religion known as "Islam" too. Muhammad married Khadija, who was a Roman Catholic, when he was 25 and she was 40. Her cousin was called Waraquah and was also a Roman Catholic Meccan, working for the Vatican.

There are large gaps between the time of writing, and the dates of the earliest surviving manuscripts. Given these gaps in transmission, how can we be sure that what you claim today to be the Bible matches the earliest copies, when there are no surviving early copies to compare against?
Isn't Allah's Word good enough for you? Do you honestly believe that our ALL-POWERFUL Creator would instruct us in His Koran to read The Law and the Gospel, and somehow not preserve them from corruption, as He promised to do?

Moreover, these manuscripts are highly fragmentary; they represent only tiny portions of the Gospels. Since the manuscripts we do possess, most of which date to as late as the 10th century after Jesus, show evidence of tampering, the chances that there would also be fabrications and interpolations in the earlier manuscripts are also high.
Why do you feel the need to tell lies about the Word of God, which the Koran was sent to CONFIRM? And who do you think is conning you into doing that please? It most certainly isn't Allah.

By contrast, the Quran says: "We have sent down the Qur’an Ourself, and We Ourself will guard it” [15:9].
More deceitful translations and cherry-picking. From the King of kings' Bible, based upon the translation of the Koran (Qur-ân), into English, done by Mr. Abdullah Yusuf Ali (third edition 1938), which is widely accepted, by English-speaking Arabic people, as being the best translation (until The King of kings’ Bible was completed).

Sura 15:9-11
15:9. We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).
15:10. We did send Apostles BEFORE thee amongst the religious sects (John 17:21; Sura 6:159) of old:
15:11. But never came an Apostle to them but they mocked him.

The passage above is of course referring to ALL of God's Word, not just the Koran.
 

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You always attempt to convince the Muslims that they must accept the Bible as the word of God, but I have never once seen you try to convince Christians that the Quran is the word of God. Why is that? Perhaps because Christians will see that the Quran and the Bible can never be reconciled. If you accept the Quran, you must reject the Bible. And if you accept the Bible, you must reject the Quran.
You're either being intentionally deceitful, or you are actually that sound asleep. Which is it please? Throughout this forum, citations from the Koran (Quran) have been used repeatedly, to encourage everyone -- including and in particular "Christians" -- to read the Koran. This thread itself proves what you've (falsely) claimed to be untrue.

No rationally-minded human+Being could possibly read the HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of Suras that have been cited, many within this thread, and still believe the LIE that the Bible cannot be reconciled with the Koran, and vice-versa, particularly given our Creator (Allah, the "I AM") has said so, and told is IN THE KORAN, that all three MUST reconcile, as they are all three a PROMISE (COVENANT) in TRUTH from Allah

Sura 9:111. "I AM" hath purchased from the Believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is The Garden (of Bliss): they fight in His Cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in Truth, through The Law (The Torah), The Gospel (New Testament/Covenant), and The Koran: and who is more faithful to His Covenant (in the Bible) than "I AM"? Then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded (to fulfill The Covenant of "I AM" written in the Bible): that is the achievement supreme.

The word "Satan" is Hebrew and means "the Opposer" (God's Adversary). When someone argues against God (opposes Him), they are very obviously working for Satan. And those who do such things will find themselves in The Fire, as it says repeatedly throughout the Bible and Koran (Quran).

Learn to destroy your ego (which Satan controls and gets you to argue against God, Whom you claim to be in submission to) or it will destroy you (the REAL you, the spirit-Being/Soul within).

Peace be upon you.
 

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..The New Testament was compiled over hundreds of years. No two pages of the 6,000 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament are the same..

Steady on, two of the gospel-writers were actual disciples, and Paul who wrote big chunks of the NT actually MET the risen Jesus, you can't get better men-on-the-spot street cred than that..:)
 

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He wasn't the literal son of God
According to God Himself, Christ (the Spirit-Being Who incarnated Christ) is His LITERAL, SPIRITUAL Son.

Matthew 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

He was the symbolic, metaphorical son of God which was just a term used to describe the relationship between God and the Logos.
No, Prince Michael/Christ is the LITERAL Firstborn/First-created Son of God, as God Himself has said and as is repeated throughout Scripture. It is Jesus, the human son of the virgin body of Mary that is not God's Spiritual son. And anyone who claims otherwise is an anti-Christ, by definition.

1 John 2:22-23
2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that the Christ was incarnated in Jesus? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].

Jesus was an incarnation of the Logos.
Or, more accurately put, The Word (Logos) was made flesh (incarnated) into Jesus, exactly as God said.

John 1:1-14
1:1 In the Beginning was the Word (Truth - in Hebrew is Nazir), and the Truth was with God (NOT with Lucifer/Satan the Devil), and the Word was God.
1:2 The same was in the Beginning with God.
1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
1:4 In Him was Life; and the Life was the Light of men.
1:5 And the Light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
1:6 There was a man sent from God, whose name [was] John.
1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all [men] through the Light might believe.
1:8 He was not that Light, but [was sent] to bear witness of that Light.
1:9 [That] was the True Light, which Lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world (humans) knew him not (could not SEE him inside the body of Jesus).
1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the (adopted) sons of God, [even] to them that believe in his identity:
1:13 Who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man (human), but of God (Who is Spirit).
1:14 And the Word was made flesh (incarnated), and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only incarnated of the Father) full of Grace and Truth (Nazir in Hebrew).

Sura 2:87-88
2:87. We gave Moses The Book (The Torah) and followed him up with a succession of Apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the Holy Spirit (Christ). Is it that whenever there comes to you an Apostle with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay!
2:88. They say, "Our hearts (Jere. 17:9) are the wrappings (which preserve God's Word: we need no more)." Nay, The "I AM"'s curse is on them for their blasphemy: Little it is that they believe.

John 14:15-19 (Christ is the Holy Spirit from God)
14:15 If ye love me, KEEP my COMMANDments.
14:16 And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
14:17 [Even] the Spirit of Truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I Live, ye shall live also.


I'm right and you're wrong..the end. You're too ignorant of your own religion. Itsn't my fault.
As above please. It's actually you are in the wrong, and ignorant of The Word of God, because of your own evil organized religion.
 
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You're either being intentionally deceitful, or you are actually that sound asleep. Which is it please? Throughout this forum, citations from the Koran (Quran) have been used repeatedly, to encourage everyone -- including and in particular "Christians" -- to read the Koran. This thread itself proves what you've (falsely) claimed to be untrue.

No rationally-minded human+Being could possibly read the HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of Suras that have been cited, many within this thread, and still believe the LIE that the Bible cannot be reconciled with the Koran, and vice-versa, particularly given our Creator (Allah, the "I AM") has said so, and told is IN THE KORAN, that all three MUST reconcile, as they are all three a PROMISE (COVENANT) in TRUTH from Allah

Sura 9:111. "I AM" hath purchased from the Believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is The Garden (of Bliss): they fight in His Cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in Truth, through The Law (The Torah), The Gospel (New Testament/Covenant), and The Koran: and who is more faithful to His Covenant (in the Bible) than "I AM"? Then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded (to fulfill The Covenant of "I AM" written in the Bible): that is the achievement supreme.

The word "Satan" is Hebrew and means "the Opposer" (God's Adversary). When someone argues against God (opposes Him), they are very obviously working for Satan. And those who do such things will find themselves in The Fire, as it says repeatedly throughout the Bible and Koran (Quran).

Learn to destroy your ego (which Satan controls and gets you to argue against God, Whom you claim to be in submission to) or it will destroy you (the REAL you, the spirit-Being/Soul within).

Peace be upon you.
The Quran and Bible contradict each other. They cannot be reconciled.

- In the Bible, Eve tempts Adam to eat from the tree, and God condemns them and their progeny to a life of pain and misery on Earth for their sin. There is no such account in the Quran. In the Quran God intended to put Adam and Eve on Earth before they had committed any sin. They are forgiven by God after they repent to him. Adam and Eve bore equal responsibility for their sin, nor do their progeny bear the responsibility of their sin.
- In the New Testament, man is declared inherently evil and wicked. In the Quran, God created man on the 'fitrah': the natural, inborn disposition towards the recognition of God, and towards the love of goodness.
- The Bible alleges that the Prophets committed egregious sins such as adultery and murder (Lot's daughters commit incest, David commits adultery and kills Bathsheba's husband). There are no such accounts in the Quran: the Prophets and Messengers declare the Oneness of God (no partner, no second, no offspring), and disassociate themselves from the disbelief of their misguided people
- Christians say that Jesus was the son of God, or God himself as part of the trinity. The Quran rejects this outright as a monstrous supposition, and clear idolatry.
- The Bible alleges that Jesus was crucified, and rose from the dead. The Quran refutes these claims: Jesus was not crucified, but it was made to appear to them as such, and he was raised up to God.
- The Bible says that that the sacrificial son was Isaac. The Quran clearly states that it was Ishmael.
- Christians say that one can only attain salvation by faith; our works are meaningless. The Quran emphatically states that after faith, works are the most important precondition for salvation: every man will be recompensed for his deeds in kind, and God will not wrong them.

If they can be reconciled, please show me where the Quran accepts original sin, the divinity of Christ and his progeneration, the crucifixion, resurrection, salvation by faith alone, Isaac as the sacrificial son, man being inherently wicked, and the evil deeds of Prophets (Lot, David, Solomon, Jacob).

The truth is that your doctrine is idolatry. God begot no son, in any sense of the word, either spiritually or literally.
 
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You're either being intentionally deceitful, or you are actually that sound asleep. Which is it please? Throughout this forum, citations from the Koran (Quran) have been used repeatedly, to encourage everyone -- including and in particular "Christians" -- to read the Koran. This thread itself proves what you've (falsely) claimed to be untrue.

No rationally-minded human+Being could possibly read the HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of Suras that have been cited, many within this thread, and still believe the LIE that the Bible cannot be reconciled with the Koran, and vice-versa, particularly given our Creator (Allah, the "I AM") has said so, and told is IN THE KORAN, that all three MUST reconcile, as they are all three a PROMISE (COVENANT) in TRUTH from Allah

Sura 9:111. "I AM" hath purchased from the Believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is The Garden (of Bliss): they fight in His Cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in Truth, through The Law (The Torah), The Gospel (New Testament/Covenant), and The Koran: and who is more faithful to His Covenant (in the Bible) than "I AM"? Then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded (to fulfill The Covenant of "I AM" written in the Bible): that is the achievement supreme.

The word "Satan" is Hebrew and means "the Opposer" (God's Adversary). When someone argues against God (opposes Him), they are very obviously working for Satan. And those who do such things will find themselves in The Fire, as it says repeatedly throughout the Bible and Koran (Quran).

Learn to destroy your ego (which Satan controls and gets you to argue against God, Whom you claim to be in submission to) or it will destroy you (the REAL you, the spirit-Being/Soul within).

Peace be upon you.
Yet you have never called on them outright. You have never made a thread denouncing Christians' rejection of the Quran. And yet you have done so several times for Muslims, even going so far as to claim that they are not even Muslim (see thread 'Are you a REAL Muslim?'). To Christians, you have only quoted Quran verses hidden amidst the paragraphs of Bible verses. And these Quran verses are filled with interpolations and parentheses; they are not even quoted from the original Yusuf Ali. Nowehere did Yusuf Ali include 'I AM' and citations of Bible verses.
 
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So our ALL-POWERFUL Creator gave us the Koran (Quran) to be the Gospel of UNITY/BROTHERHOOD, and had it translated into other languages (including English) only to decide it could only be understood by Arab-speaking people? How ridiculous!


And the "Injeel", i.e. the Gospel (Good News - News from God) that was revealed to Jesus was recorded in the Gospel accounts according to Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and Thomas, in much the same way others recorded what was revealed to Muhammad. There is also Christ's Revelation to John, where we do find reference to the mystery of God being revealed in the Last Days, by the 7th Angel - The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi.

Further, in the Koran (Quran), where Christ is referenced at least 230 times and His followers are held up as SUPERIOR to the faithless who mock Him, it CONFIRMS the prophecies in the Bible of His Second Coming (Sura 43:61). What would you expect the Anointed/Guided One to do during His Second Coming other than UNITE all TRUE Believers (those who are "True in Faith") by sorting out the Scriptures? Do you really believe that our ALL-POWERFUL Creator would allow ANYONE other than His Anointed/Guided One to publish His Word in a Bible entitled The King of kings' Bible, which contains the Old Covenant, New Covenant AND the Koran?

Sura 9:111. "I AM" hath purchased from the Believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the Garden (of Bliss): they fight in His Cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in Truth, through The Law (Torah), the Gospel (New Testament/Covenant), and the Koran: and who is more faithful to His Covenant (in the Bible) than "I AM"? Then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded (to fulfill The Covenant of "I AM" written in the Bible): that is the achievement supreme.


https://carm.org/manuscript-evidence

https://www.toughquestionsanswered.org/2012/12/11/how-do-other-ancient-texts-compare-to-the-new-testament/



Both of these additions, along with the additions made to Matthew 28:19, have all been discussed here in detail, and corrected in the King of kings' Bible.

King of kings' Bible - 1 John 5:6-8 (the trinitarian wording which was added has been removed)
5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, [even] Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is Truth.
5:7 For there are three that bear record,
5:8 The Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

King of kings' Bible - John 7:53-:11 (the story of the adulterous woman which was added has been removed)
7:53 And every man went unto his own house.
8:1 Jesus went unto the Mount of Olives.
8:2 And early in the morning he came again into The Temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
8:3 Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the Light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the Light of Life.
8:4 The politicians therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true.
8:5 Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, [yet] my record is true: for I know whence I came, and where I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and where I go.
8:6 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
8:7 And yet if I judge, my Judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
8:8 It is also written in your Law, that the testimony of two men is true.
8:9 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
8:10 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known my Father, ye should have known me also.
8:11 These words spoke Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in The Temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.
8:12 Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: where I go, ye cannot come.

King of kings' Bible - Matthew 28:19-20
28:19 Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them with the Holy Spirit: in my name (The Saviour),
28:20 Instructing them to observe (and DO) all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, [even] unto the end of the world (age). Amen.

Also, the alterations to the original Koran (Quran) have likewise been corrected, e.g. the substitution of Ishmael for Isaac in Sura 2:125 and 2:127.

Sura 2:125-127
2:125. Remember We made The House a place of assembly for men and a place of safety and take ye The Station of Abraham (Mt. Moriah - Gen. 22:2) as a place of prayer and We Covenanted with Abraham and Isaac (Gen. 17:21), that they should sanctify My House for those who compass it round, or use it as a retreat, or bow, or prostrate themselves (there, in prayer).
2:126. And remember Abraham said: "My Lord, make this a City of PEACE (Jeru-SALEM in Hebrew), and feed its people with fruits,- such of them as believe God and in the Last Day." He said: "(Yea), and such as reject Faith,- for a while will I grant them their pleasure, but will soon drive them to the torment of Fire,- an evil destination (indeed)!"
2:127. And remember Abraham and Isaac (Gen. 17:21, 22:2; Sura 37:101-102, 112-113) raised the foundations of The House (with this prayer): "Our Lord! Accept (this service) from us: For Thou art the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing.

The Bible and Koran, which are the Holy, Inspired Word of God, have built-in error correction, as explained in both The Law and in the Book of Enoch (Idris), as has already been shared several times. Simply put, ALL Scripture MUST agree with itself, and when humans try to tamper with the Word of God, it sticks out as if it were written in different color ink. Once it is seen that something doesn't agree, e.g. the Johannine Comma that you mentioned, it prompts further investigation.

So how do we know that the Koran was altered by the substitution of Ishmael for Isaac? Because it not only doesn't agree with the Bible which came before it, which the Koran was sent to CONFIRM, but it also contradicts the Koran itself.

In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

THE GOOD NEWS OF A BOY
(PROOF that Abraham offered ISAAC)

Sura 37:101 And We gave Abraham the "good news" of a boy ready to suffer and forbear (through the angel messengers We sent to him).

Sura 37:102 Then, when the boy reached the age of serious work with him Abraham said, "O my son! I see in vision that I offer thee in sacrifice."

Sura 37:112 And We gave him the "good news" of Isaac - a prophet - one of the righteous (through the angel messengers We sent to him).

Sura 37:113 We blessed Abraham and Isaac.

Sura 6:84 And We gave Abraham Isaac and Jacob: all three We guided aright.

Sura 38:45-46 And commemorate Our servants Abraham, Isaac (not Ishmael), and Jacob, possessors of Power and Vision. Verily did We choose them for a special purpose - proclaiming the Message of the Hereafter. They were in Our sight, truly, of the company of the Elect and the good.

Sura 11:71 And We gave Abraham the glad tidings ("good news") of Isaac and after him Jacob / Israel (the son of Isaac).

Sura 15:54 "Good news" of a son.

Sura 51:28 Glad tidings ("good news") of a son (Isaac - "laughter" in Hebrew) and Sarah laughed being 90 years old (the word Isaac means laughter and because Sarah laughed the child was named "laughter" - Isaac in Hebrew).

We gave the "good news" means "news from God" via an angel messenger. No angel was ever sent to Abraham to announce the birth of Ishmael and this is born-out by all of the Holy Scriptures. He was born because of Sarai (Sarah) not because of God and was born to an Egyptian surrogate-mother, called Hagar.

All of the references of "good news" refer to Isaac and not to Ishmael, proving that the Meccans changed the name Isaac for Ishmael in Sura 2:125 and 127.

However Ishmael was blessed by God, later, when Abraham, who loved him, asked God to let Ishmael live before God (Genesis 17:18-20).


The "Codex Vaticanus" is another sham perpetrated by the Vatican, to promote their evil organized religion and try to discredit the Bible for their master: Satan/the Destroyer, who runs the Roman Catholic church through his crypto-counterfeit Jewish Jesuits and their pope, referred to in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 as "the son of the destroyer". It is NOT "one of the earliest surviving manuscripts of the NT".

Of course the RCC was also instrumental in setting up the organized religion known as "Islam" too. Muhammad married Khadija, who was a Roman Catholic, when he was 25 and she was 40. Her cousin was called Waraquah and was also a Roman Catholic Meccan, working for the Vatican.


Isn't Allah's Word good enough for you? Do you honestly believe that our ALL-POWERFUL Creator would instruct us in His Koran to read The Law and the Gospel, and somehow not preserve them from corruption, as He promised to do?


Why do you feel the need to tell lies about the Word of God, which the Koran was sent to CONFIRM? And who do you think is conning you into doing that please? It most certainly isn't Allah.


More deceitful translations and cherry-picking. From the King of kings' Bible, based upon the translation of the Koran (Qur-ân), into English, done by Mr. Abdullah Yusuf Ali (third edition 1938), which is widely accepted, by English-speaking Arabic people, as being the best translation (until The King of kings’ Bible was completed).

Sura 15:9-11
15:9. We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).
15:10. We did send Apostles BEFORE thee amongst the religious sects (John 17:21; Sura 6:159) of old:
15:11. But never came an Apostle to them but they mocked him.

The passage above is of course referring to ALL of God's Word, not just the Koran.
No, Jesus is mentioned only 34 times: 26 times as 'Isa' and 8 times as 'the messiah'.

So in your King of Kings 'Koran', in ayahs 2:125 and 2:127 you changed the name of the sacrificial son from Ishmael to Isaac. o_O You have changed the word of God. Subhanallah.

Khadija (may Allah be pleased with her) was a Roman Catholic? No. She was a Muslim.
 
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According to God Himself, Christ (the Spirit-Being Who incarnated Christ) is His LITERAL, SPIRITUAL Son.

Matthew 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


No, Prince Michael/Christ is the LITERAL Firstborn/First-created Son of God, as God Himself has said and as is repeated throughout Scripture. It is Jesus, the human son of the virgin body of Mary that is not God's Spiritual son. And anyone who claims otherwise is an anti-Christ, by definition.

1 John 2:22-23
2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that the Christ was incarnated in Jesus? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].


Or, more accurately put, The Word (Logos) was made flesh (incarnated) into Jesus, exactly as God said.

John 1:1-14
1:1 In the Beginning was the Word (Truth - in Hebrew is Nazir), and the Truth was with God (NOT with Lucifer/Satan the Devil), and the Word was God.
1:2 The same was in the Beginning with God.
1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
1:4 In Him was Life; and the Life was the Light of men.
1:5 And the Light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
1:6 There was a man sent from God, whose name [was] John.
1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all [men] through the Light might believe.
1:8 He was not that Light, but [was sent] to bear witness of that Light.
1:9 [That] was the True Light, which Lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world (humans) knew him not (could not SEE him inside the body of Jesus).
1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the (adopted) sons of God, [even] to them that believe in his identity:
1:13 Who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man (human), but of God (Who is Spirit).
1:14 And the Word was made flesh (incarnated), and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only incarnated of the Father) full of Grace and Truth (Nazir in Hebrew).

Sura 2:87-88
2:87. We gave Moses The Book (The Torah) and followed him up with a succession of Apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the Holy Spirit (Christ). Is it that whenever there comes to you an Apostle with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay!
2:88. They say, "Our hearts (Jere. 17:9) are the wrappings (which preserve God's Word: we need no more)." Nay, The "I AM"'s curse is on them for their blasphemy: Little it is that they believe.

John 14:15-19 (Christ is the Holy Spirit from God)
14:15 If ye love me, KEEP my COMMANDments.
14:16 And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
14:17 [Even] the Spirit of Truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I Live, ye shall live also.



As above please. It's actually you are in the wrong, and ignorant of The Word of God, because of your own evil organized religion.

here's the thing, i honestly don't want to be a pr1ck here, but i dont agree with a thing you say because it's all just nonsense. you're part of that jahtruth stuff, i know very little about that but have seen the way you blatantly make up quotes and don't know the difference between Quran and hadith.

still i'll answer you on this

1) the son, is not a literal term at all. it is just the metaphorical and symbolice use of the term 'ben elohim' but this time it was applied to a particular messianic archetype..the LOGOS/incarnation.

2) the logos is the primary matter..the all important one. Jesus being the incarnation of the logos.
i believe the logos is the universal consciousness. It's called by various names. vishnu, the primordial waters, the primordial ink, the kalam, the image, the ruh-e-azam (the great spirit).

the fact is the Quran and hadith refer to Jesus as 'His Word'.
islam does not use judaic terminology like 'the son'

in the bible, God also said ISRAEL was 'my first born'
such language is peculiar to judaism..and jews never took that literally.
the roman pagans took it literally..and that is what christians are, pagans.
 
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Logic it out mate, Jesus blew people's socks off with his miracles because the awesome power of God his father was flowing through him, heck not even David Blaine could do that stuff, that's why a kid from a carpenter's shop in a tiny village went on to rule the world..:)

Jesus said- "Even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father." (John 10:38 )

The 37 MIRACLES OF JESUS http://www.bcbsr.com/survey/jmrcls.html
Bringing little girl back to life
Bringing widows son back to life
Stilling the storm
Feeding 4000
Walking on sea
Feeding 5000
Coin in fishes mouth
Withering fig tree
Big catch of fish
Water into wine
Another big fish catch
Healing leper
Healing Centurions servant
Healing Peters mother-in-law
Healing sick at evening
Healing paralysed man
Healing haemorraging woman
Healing two blind men
Healing mans withered hand
Healing Canaanite womans daughter
Healing boy with seizures
Healing blind man
Healing deaf and dumb man
Healing another blind man
Healing crippled woman
Healing man with dropsy
Healing 10 lepers
Restoring a cut-off ear
Healing noblemans sons fever
Healing crippled man at Bethesda
Healing a born-blind man
Casting out demons into pigs
Curing a mute lunatic
Casting out dirty spirit
Curing a possessed blind-dumb man
Appeared to his followers after his death
Bringing Lazarus back to life

"Come on out of there mate"
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no idea what point you were making.
 

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??no idea what point you were making.

The point is that Jesus did stuff that no other prophet or mystic or founder of other religions could do, in fact they're all corpses in boxes somewhere but Jesus is not, spot the difference?
So my money is on JC to get us off this rock because he's a surefire bet, right Kid?

"Right"
 

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here's the thing, i honestly don't want to be a pr1ck here, but i dont agree with a thing you say because it's all just nonsense. you're part of that jahtruth stuff, i know very little about that but have seen the way you blatantly make up quotes and don't know the difference between Quran and hadith.
You're either incapable of being honest with yourself and others or you are unwilling to do so.

No quotes have been made up. And your accusation about not knowing the difference between the Koran (Quran) and the Hadith is not only without merit, but hypocritical, as was pointed out to you previously.

still i'll answer you on this

1) the son, is not a literal term at all. it is just the metaphorical and symbolice use of the term 'ben elohim' but this time it was applied to a particular messianic archetype..the LOGOS/incarnation.

2) the logos is the primary matter..the all important one. Jesus being the incarnation of the logos.
i believe the logos is the universal consciousness. It's called by various names. vishnu, the primordial waters, the primordial ink, the kalam, the image, the ruh-e-azam (the great spirit).
Of course the term is literal; God says it is in His Word (the Bible). It just isn't speaking of a human son. Repeating your mistaken beliefs doesn't make them true. The very Word (Logos) that your "self" claims knows proves you to be in error.

The Logos is The Word of God. The Word of God is the Truth. God's Message is, and always has been, and ever will be the Truth.

It has come to us in many forms:
Telepathically, through prayer/conversation with God;
Verbally, through His Angels/Sons and through the Prophets;
In written form either from The Law and/or from the Prophets, Disciples, Apostles and Messengers of God; and
As THE flesh and blood Example of the human+Being we know as Jesus+Christ. The Word made flesh.

the fact is the Quran and hadith refer to Jesus as 'His Word'.
islam does not use judaic terminology like 'the son'
And yet the Koran (Quran) instructs its readers to read the Bible, and to learn The Way (John 14:6) that is Straight (Matt. 7:13-14) from Christ, Who came with Clear Signs.

Sura 43:61-64
43:61. And (Christ the Mahdi) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) The Hour (of Judgment): therefore have no doubt about The (Hour), but follow ye Me: this is The Straight Way.
43:62. Let not the Evil One hinder you: for he is to you an enemy avowed.
43:63. When Jesus came with Clear Signs, he said: "Now have I come to you with Wisdom, and in order to make clear to you some of the (points) on which ye dispute: therefore fear "I AM" and obey me.
43:64. For "I AM", He is my Lord and your Lord (John 20:17): so worship ye Him (Matthew 5:48): this is The Straight Way."

Sura 46:30. They said, "O our people! We have heard a Book revealed after Moses, confirming what came before it: IT guides (men) to the Truth and to The Straight Way.

in the bible, God also said ISRAEL was 'my first born'
such language is peculiar to judaism..and jews never took that literally.
the roman pagans took it literally..and that is what christians are, pagans.
Regarding the Israelites (not the "Jews" ), who God considers to be the firstborn among all the nations of the earth:

Deuteronomy 14:1-2
14:1 Ye [are] the children of the "I AM" your God: ye shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead.
14:2 For thou [art] an holy people unto the "I AM" thy God, and the "I AM" hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto Himself, above all the nations that [are] upon the earth.
 
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The point is that Jesus did stuff that no other prophet or mystic or founder of other religions could do, in fact they're all corpses in boxes somewhere but Jesus is not, spot the difference?
So my money is on JC to get us off this rock because he's a surefire bet, right Kid?

"Right"
1) muslims believe in Jesus, accurately, as the WORD of God.
we just dont use the term 'son of God' outside it's original judaic vs hellenism context..
you dont even know wtf hellenism was esp in a jewish context, what the logos is, who philo was, who plotinus was..who are you to tell me anything lol?

these ideas sprang up in the middle east, from egypt to india..and those are the places muslims reside today...hence islam is closer to the original truth..whilst you are into your white pagan mangod shit, just like that stupid image you posted...

2) when muslims think of the second coming of Jesus, they dont think of 'miracles' they think of 'Jesus killing dajjal, the false messiah'
when roman pagans think of Jesus, they think 'miracles' 'the heavens opening up' etc..
and all that does is push you further closer to the false messiah foretold in Revelation.

Jesus himself said 'only a wicked nations seeks MIRACLES'
Jesus ONLY said that bit about 'look at my miracles' to a jewish audience who were rejecting him

he's like "since you don tbelieve me, you cant deny my miracles, since that IS what you DO believe in"

3) God could grant anyone superpowers ffs...
Jesus himself told his disciples "you will do more than this" so clearly the disciples did far more than even Jesus did..
the miracles attributed to the early christians, are many..
and islam respects them
in fact the Quran has a chapter named after the 7 sleepers of the cave...
Surah Kahf.

however, where you fail bigtime is that you know nothing of islam, of awliya, or karamats...
the concept of fana, the concept of barzakh and martydom

when we die, we are bound to Barzakh/hades/sheol, because of our carnal attachments to this world.
when a person 'dies for the sake of Allah', that person dies to the world, breaks off his/her carnal attachments
those people are LIVING not dead...and this is a big belief in islam.
hence in the Quran

Think not of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord;


there is not a topic you can bring up, i/we dont already know better than you.
even where it concerns the origins of christianity, im way ahead of you.

you can stick to your pagan white mangod though...
in my understanding the LOGOS is nothing on it's own..it is only the primordial power that animates it.....
and hence 'the invisible Father reveals Himself THROUGH THE SON'
'the Son can do NOTHING on his own'

even what you quoted before in John 10, Jesus says
29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.

sure, Jesus said 'i and the Father are One' but in the context that is not literal..
otherwise there would be no seperation at all and Jesus would not say 'My Father, who has given them to me'

yet you believe in that third rate weak dark ages doctrine about a white mangod who is 'co equal' with the Father in Godhead.
how the hell did christianity of this variety even come to be? it shows that roman pagans were by far the dumbest of humans.

Jesus: The Father, He gave me everything, i can't do anything on my own
You: Jesus, YOU ARE GODDDD!!!
 
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You're either incapable of being honest with yourself and others or you are unwilling to do so.

No quotes have been made up. And your accusation about not knowing the difference between the Koran (Quran) and the Hadith is not only without merit, but hypocritical, as was pointed out to you previously.


Of course the term is literal; God says it is in His Word (the Bible). It just isn't speaking of a human son. Repeating your mistaken beliefs doesn't make them true. The very Word (Logos) that your "self" claims knows proves you to be in error.

The Logos is The Word of God. The Word of God is the Truth. God's Message is, and always has been, and ever will be the Truth.

It has come to us in many forms:
Telepathically, through prayer/conversation with God;
Verbally, through His Angels/Sons and through the Prophets;
In written form either from The Law and/or from the Prophets, Disciples, Apostles and Messengers of God; and
As THE flesh and blood Example of the human+Being we know as Jesus+Christ. The Word made flesh.


And yet the Koran (Quran) instructs its readers to read the Bible, and to learn The Way (John 14:6) that is Straight (Matt. 7:13-14) from Christ, Who came with Clear Signs.

Sura 43:61-64
43:61. And (Christ the Mahdi) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) The Hour (of Judgment): therefore have no doubt about The (Hour), but follow ye Me: this is The Straight Way.
43:62. Let not the Evil One hinder you: for he is to you an enemy avowed.
43:63. When Jesus came with Clear Signs, he said: "Now have I come to you with Wisdom, and in order to make clear to you some of the (points) on which ye dispute: therefore fear "I AM" and obey me.
43:64. For "I AM", He is my Lord and your Lord (John 20:17): so worship ye Him (Matthew 5:48): this is The Straight Way."

Sura 46:30. They said, "O our people! We have heard a Book revealed after Moses, confirming what came before it: IT guides (men) to the Truth and to The Straight Way.


Regarding the Israelites (not the "Jews" ), who God considers to be the firstborn among all the nations of the earth:

Deuteronomy 14:1-2
14:1 Ye [are] the children of the "I AM" your God: ye shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead.
14:2 For thou [art] an holy people unto the "I AM" thy God, and the "I AM" hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto Himself, above all the nations that [are] upon the earth.

1) you say no quotes have been made up...
yet you have done this
And (Christ the Mahdi)

the mahdi is not Christ, they are different figures. The mahdi will be the final Caliph and the last of the 12 caliphs of Quraysh, a prophecy that goes all the way back to Genesis, the 12 princes.
look how accurate it was..
a Caliph is a vicegerent, a prince...not a king.
Christ literally means 'annointed one' (a king) and Mahdi is a prince/caliph...how can they be the same?
Christ is jewish...Mahdi is a bloodline decendant of Mohammad.

also, it doesnt say 'I AM' since that is Yahweh...and the Quran doesnt use that name.

2)

Surah 43, see what you wrote and compare with

61.And indeed, Jesus will be [a sign for] knowledge of the Hour, so be not in doubt of it, and follow Me. This is a straight path.
62.And never let Satan avert you. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy.
63.And when Jesus brought clear proofs, he said, "I have come to you with wisdom and to make clear to you some of that over which you differ, so fear Allah and obey me.
64.Indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. This is a straight path."
65.But the denominations from among them differed [and separated], so woe to those who have wronged from the punishment of a painful Day.

you changed this to
this is The Straight Way.

here let me just show you how this further breaks down


"a straight way", transliteration
hatha siratun mustaqeemun

"THE straight way"
Guide us to the straight way.
(سورة الفاتحة, Al-Faatiha, Chapter #1, Verse #6)
alssirata almustaqeema


it's not even like you didnt know this, you did it on purpose...but the fact you thought you could do it with me?


3) not that i even had a problem with the 'Gospel' or indeed the 'new testament'
not that i had a problem with the path of Jesus being 'THE straight way' or 'a straight way'
the problem i have is that Jesus had his religion..and then this roman pagan crap came along and made it into a white mangod superman type figure
i dont believe in that shite...

im putting you on ignore, you've let yourself down...embarassed yourself but lucky for you, most people on here are just as bad as you..
 
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