Was Q a Psyop? AKA Discuss the Q Psyop without asking if it is real:)

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Super interesting interview. I had heard the theory before that QAnon was actually an AI running on a quantum computer but this guy seems to have the evidence.

Cryptocurrency prices being manipulated by AI? Very believable. As I said earlier on another thread they plan to crash private crypto prices to replace them with central bank crypto.

Also Tyler AI; Tyler is a masonic term.
 






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Super interesting interview. I had heard the theory before that QAnon was actually an AI running on a quantum computer but this guy seems to have the evidence.

Cryptocurrency prices being manipulated by AI? Very believable. As I said earlier on another thread they plan to crash private crypto prices to replace them with central bank crypto.

Also Tyler AI; Tyler is a masonic term.
Yeah, at first I was like, oh this is going to be silly but as the interview went on the guy did not miss a beat with fluid explanations which I found interesting. I mean, he layered things out like a sci fi movie script but he seemed genuine and obviously works in silicon valley. For anyone up to check it out, you have to get through the first few minutes and then it will pull you in. I was entertained.
 






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Another thing I have always tought about Q.

They herald trump in the same way other people did with leaders in the past.

England with King Arthur, Wales with Llelwellyn, Portugal with King Sebastian.

Except that Tromp is right over there.
 






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'Q-Anon' Bears Striking Resemblance to Bolshevik Psy-Op From 1920s Known As 'Operation Trust'

"Operation Trust" was a Bolshevik counterintelligence operation run from 1921 to 1926 aimed at neutralizing opposition by creating the false impression that a powerful group of military leaders had organized to stop the communists' takeover.
 






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Q was just the latest iteration of the "sit back patridiots, we got this one covered...mass arrests about to happen" psyop. The same regurgitated nonsense for the non-moving patriot movement that gets recycled every few years or so. Did everyone forget about Drake and the American national militia, or Riley and the "American Spring"? Even Occupy Wall Street was billed in a similar way.

"All that's required for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing." -- Edmund Burke

Nobody's going to do this for us. And revolutions only keep bringing us back to the same, intolerable place anyway.

The system is corrupt beyond repair. It's time to burn it all down and start over doing things the right way for a change.
 






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Q was just the latest iteration of the "sit back patridiots, we got this one covered...mass arrests about to happen" psyop. The same regurgitated nonsense for the non-moving patriot movement that gets recycled every few years or so. Did everyone forget about Drake and the American national militia, or Riley and the "American Spring"? Even Occupy Wall Street was billed in a similar way.

"All that's required for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing." -- Edmund Burke

Nobody's going to do this for us. And revolutions only keep bringing us back to the same, intolerable place anyway.

The system is corrupt beyond repair. It's time to burn it all down and start over doing things the right way for a change.
this narrative doesn't even make sense

"sit back and do nothing"

We just saw Qtards storming capitol Hill, willing to die for an elite p***phile billionaire. I dont think the psy op is to get them to do "nothing" The psy op is actually TO GET THEM TO DO SOMETHING.

at the very least Q was to get people to support Trump and make excuses for all the contradictory stuff he was doing. So it was "Trump is pushing vaccines but its all 4D chess, keep supporting him he's not a fraud, he's for real"

another big part of the Q operation was to mass demonize political opposition, by associating them with p***philia and satanism. It was the dehumanization of political and ideological enemies, which makes it easier for one to commit acts of stochastic terror against a population you have dehumanized.
 






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I'm gonna play the Devil's Advocate (I'll be the only one, it seems), although by no means do I think the Devil is behind Q.

Q is information warfare started by one or more members within the military and intelligence communities, seemingly incentivized by the attack on the US embassy in Libya which cost embassador Stevens' life. A group of people within the US military would've turned against their masters because the Obama administration supposedly gave a stand-down order to special ops who could've intervened and saved him. They saw it as treason and realised, or already knew and decided to act on it, that American lives of those who serve the US were deemed expendable by their leaders. I don't think anyone knows who exactly Q is, but probably someone or some close to Michael Flynn.

Qanon is everyone who took Q's intel and ran with it, adding their own interpretations and theories to it which led to what happens every time there's a new conspiracy theory: it turns into a maze of fantasies where no one can distinguish the real from the false anymore. Most self-proclaimed Anons don't seem like political scientists or philosophers, seem fairly new to this conspiracy stuff and seem quick to believe pretty much anything that fits the theory. However, I don't think this is the part people should focus on.

Is it a psyop? It's probably in part a psyop, and partly something else. Every operation has an objective and that objective is something that most people who felt that the mainstream official narratives (fake news) were construed to hide the truth, could align with, ie. expose and eliminate the corrupt establishment. An easy one to get behind. One of its undeniable and in my opinion positive effects is that the collective consciousness of the corruption in our institutions has grown exponentially in the past 4 to 5 years. Topics that were restricted to the online community surfaced to the mainstream and can no longer be suppressed, not even by the draconian censorship big tech is implementing right now.

Psyops are operations to manage the people's spirits and behaviours and there are many psyops at once that are conflicting. Singling out Q as the psyop seems like a grave error, considering it's in my opinion clearly a reactionary psyop against other psyops that have already been long in play. In the years leading up to Q we've seen major psyops with terror attacks to elicit consent for endless wars in the Middle East, the rise of terrorist organisations seemingly appearing out of nowhere, an Arab Spring where people were made to believe there was an organic international uprising against corrupt autocrats, false flag chemical attacks to garner support for military interventions, appeal-to-emotions to facilitate massive population displacements, and then we're only zooming in on the Middle East.

I think Q is a rebellion by military and intelligence personnel, both active and retired, from within that deep state apparatus against a stranglehold by globalist factions that pull the political and military levers to syphon public and private wealth at the expense of, and garner international institutional control over, citizens worldwide.

In the US, I think Q genuinely represents a deep state faction that has existed for quite some time, but has not been in control for decades. People allegedly associated with Q, like Michael Flynn, seem reminiscent of nostalgic WASP Jacksonians predating the neocon/neolib tandem that has dominated the US for half a century. They portray themselves as patriotic, civic and economic nationalists, believers of American exceptionalism, limited government, and protectors of the Judeo-Christian value system, basically Americans from before the war. With regards to their plans to take down the deep state, I think only time will tell. I think there's a real attempt and they have been able to opt out of a military out-in-the-open hard coup when they realised they could have, and have had, an ideological ally in the White House. It'll probably continue with or without him and the extent of their success or failure remains to be seen.
I agree.


Although I think the whole deep state thing has gotten multiple conspiracies and turned Q into a big laughing stock.
 






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this narrative doesn't even make sense

"sit back and do nothing"

We just saw Qtards storming capitol Hill, willing to die for an elite p***phile billionaire. I dont think the psy op is to get them to do "nothing" The psy op is actually TO GET THEM TO DO SOMETHING.

at the very least Q was to get people to support Trump and make excuses for all the contradictory stuff he was doing. So it was "Trump is pushing vaccines but its all 4D chess, keep supporting him he's not a fraud, he's for real"

another big part of the Q operation was to mass demonize political opposition, by associating them with p***philia and satanism. It was the dehumanization of political and ideological enemies, which makes it easier for one to commit acts of stochastic terror against a population you have dehumanized.
4D chess turned into 5,6,7 D.
Then the kraken failed. Then it was supposed to be watch for January 6th.

Now where are they? The false narratives they push are not creating just bat shit crazies within the Q spectrum but a civil unrest amongst US civilians.

I have no problem with conspiracy theories. I am a big advocator for critical thinking. But there is a point when it’s stirring up drama over nonsense and it creates mentally unstable people.

Maybe Q was a psy-op or mk ultra type of thing. It’s triggering people for sure
 






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4D chess turned into 5,6,7 D.
Then the kraken failed. Then it was supposed to be watch for January 6th.

Now where are they? The false narratives they push are not creating just bat shit crazies within the Q spectrum but a civil unrest amongst US civilians.

I have no problem with conspiracy theories. I am a big advocator for critical thinking. But there is a point when it’s stirring up drama over nonsense and it creates mentally unstable people.

Maybe Q was a psy-op or mk ultra type of thing. It’s triggering people for sure
Just 3 things that I think people should keep into account:

1. Even though you lose battles, you can still win the war.
2. A war is a living, organic thing. No matter how good your strategy is, you will be forced to adapt and react to unforeseen events and the strategies of your opponents.
3. You never reveal your plans, unless you're trying to deceive your enemy.
 






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Just 3 things that I think people should keep into account:

1. Even though you lose battles, you can still win the war.
2. A war is a living, organic thing. No matter how good your strategy is, you will be forced to adapt and react to unforeseen events and the strategies of your opponents.
3. You never reveal your plans, unless you're trying to deceive your enemy.
You’re a stubborn one Art.
I have no ill will towards you despite differences. But a bit of common sense here says time to move on and focus on the next obstacle. Q is not a good movement and like the leftist you like to complain about they are just as brainwashed.

Something I’m trying to help you see is they are both pushing the same narrative. It seems different cause of political/social beliefs. But the whole core/gist of it all stems to one thing and that’s control.

I cannot help you any further than that
 






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And 1 thing we should all take into account.
Respect others. At least at the surface level.

Being decent isn’t hard. I don’t like a lot of things here. But I’m not going to go out of my way to tear down something unless it truly means harm upon me.
 






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You’re a stubborn one Art.
I have no ill will towards you despite differences. But a bit of common sense here says time to move on and focus on the next obstacle. Q is not a good movement and like the leftist you like to complain about they are just as brainwashed.

Something I’m trying to help you see is they are both pushing the same narrative. It seems different cause of political/social beliefs. But the whole core/gist of it all stems to one thing and that’s control.

I cannot help you any further than that
With all do respect, Maes, but you don't have to help me see anything about dialectics or how elitists seize and maintain political control. If you think you have things to offer in that regard, you'll have to do better. I was trying to help you see and expand your horizon. Why not ponder about what I said instead of condescending, which you've made a habit of lately?

You are too focused on the Qanon noise that you don't see the actual signals on the ground.
 






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With all do respect, Maes, but you don't have to help me see anything about dialectics or how elitists seize and maintain political control. If you think you have things to offer in that regard, you'll have to do better. I was trying to help you see and expand your horizon. Why not ponder about what I said instead of condescending, which you've made a habit of lately?

You are too focused on the Qanon noise that you don't see the actual signals on the ground.
You’re a good guy Art.

Maybe we are seeing the same things but our brains are comprehending the information differently ya know?

I respect everyone here no matter beliefs. Just be respectful and continue questioning authority
 






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I have no problem with conspiracy theories. I am a big advocator for critical thinking. But there is a point when it’s stirring up drama over nonsense and it creates mentally unstable people.
Hey man I've always been a critical thinker, and I've always gone against the grain to look for hidden agendas, which is why I got into this stuff around 911 and the illegal wars.

But sadly much of the "conspiracy crowd" has just gone off the deep end. It seems they just want to believe any crazy theory as long as it contradicts the MSM.

Everything is a "false flag" "hoax" "fake" the opposite of the MSM is automatically true.

Its gotten so bad that I am really starting to see the MSM being closer to the truth and reality than the garbage I see in the "conspiracy world" and that is really saying something.

I would certainly say so when it comes to matters relating to Trump and Covid.

Look at this "stop the steal" garbage with those loons Lin Wood and Sydney Powell, just making up so much garbage and making it go viral on social media.

"truth movement" has seriously lost a lot of credibility over the past 4 years.
 






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this narrative doesn't even make sense

"sit back and do nothing"

We just saw Qtards storming capitol Hill, willing to die for an elite p***phile billionaire. I dont think the psy op is to get them to do "nothing" The psy op is actually TO GET THEM TO DO SOMETHING.

at the very least Q was to get people to support Trump and make excuses for all the contradictory stuff he was doing. So it was "Trump is pushing vaccines but its all 4D chess, keep supporting him he's not a fraud, he's for real"

another big part of the Q operation was to mass demonize political opposition, by associating them with p***philia and satanism. It was the dehumanization of political and ideological enemies, which makes it easier for one to commit acts of stochastic terror against a population you have dehumanized.
If you take the exact opposite of everything you just said, you will be much closer to the truth, and at least be applying some common-sense and reason (true logic), which begs the question: are you being paid to make these posts?

The very last thing the parasitic criminal ruling class wants is for the people to rise up against them. They've spent decades and loads of taxpayer money doing psychological studies to ensure that doesn't happen while they gradually turn up the heat. Have you ever seen "A Bug's Life"?

In that animated film, the head grasshopper ("Hopper") warns his small group of fellow grasshopper overlords about the threat of the worker ants who gather the food for the grasshoppers revolting against them if the ants ever wake-up.

Hopper: You let one ant stand up to us, then they all might stand up. Those puny little ants outnumber us a hundred to one. And if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life! It's not about food. It's about keeping those ants in line. That's why we're going back!

The parasitic criminal ruling class has been using incrementalism/fabianism for centuries to lull people to sleep and create a false sense of security and freedom, to lead us to the very same oppressive solutions we've been programmed to accept in the planned problem-reaction-solution matrix they've fed us. If enough people ever found out (3-5% of the population truly awakening is all it would take to achieve critical mass) that our mass executions have been carefully planned and are already underway, they would fight the evil people leading us to slaughter, wouldn't they?

There were no "Qtards storming capitol Hill" on the 6th of January. That's nothing more than a problem-reaction-solution narrative being pushed right now through the CIA-controlled media that is literally falling apart because it is groundless divide and conquer horse manure.

The excerpt below from the article at: https://uncoverdc.com/2021/01/15/whos-really-putting-all-the-troops-on-the-streets-of-d-c/ does a nice job of summing up what really and logically happened at the Capitol, and who was really behind it.

"Logic would tell you to look at what groups have been actively rioting for much of the past year in the nation’s capital, looting, and burning businesses, even setting fire to historic churches. Trump supporters were allegedly involved in a single incident at the Capitol Building on January 6, and the narrative that Trump incited his followers into a violent attack on Congress is already quickly falling apart.

By now, Trump and Pence both know the attack on the Capitol wasn’t the work of their own supporters. As I pointed out in a recent Epoch column, the President hadn’t even finished his speech at the Ellipse when the attack was already underway.

So no, President Trump doesn’t intend this massive show of force to deter his own supporters from rioting in D.C.

The facts and logic lead to the conclusion that this massive show of military force on the streets of DC is intended to deter the very same people who’ve been busy rioting and looting and assaulting people in that city since the Spring.

Antifa and BLM.

What exactly could be about to happen that would lead to a huge new cycle of Antifa and BLM riots in the streets of Washington if this massive number of troops weren’t already in position and waiting to stop them?

I think we could find out very soon."

From: https://gab.com/MajorPatriot/posts/105568885493718005

SOMETHING. IS. GOING. DOWN.

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What people need to do right now is to learn to THINK. As Henry Ford said, "Of all the jobs thinking is the most difficult, which is why so few choose to do it."

And for those who have been observant of how this world works, it should be self-evident that there is no left or right, except in people's minds. Which necessarily means that NO politician from either side of the imaginary aisle can be trusted.

Do you know how to tell when a politician is lying? WHEN THEIR LIPS ARE MOVING.

We have been warned about attorneys, politicians and divide and conquer strategies for thousands of years, and it is precisely because most of the world is spiritually sound asleep that no one has acted on those life-and-death serious warnings from our Creator. Instead we're allowing the most evil people from among us to lead us to our destruction.

Please bear all of this in mind, as the events unfold over the next few days, weeks and months. And learn to differentiate good from evil, rather than playing into the left vs. right paradigm death-trap.
 






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I was saying Project Veritas was zionist disinfo for the longest time, but the usual suspects on this forum kept sourcing them to support their narratives.

Ali Alexander helped organize Jan 6 "stop the steal" protests with 3 Republican Congressmen.

Ali Alexander is a member of the CNP.

The problem with Adam Green is that he also pushes zionist propaganda when it comes to the right wing culture war.

He exposes zionism but covers for the greater Fascist agenda.

The fascists and zionists are working together, always have.

You have to expose them all.
 






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I was saying Project Veritas was zionist disinfo for the longest time, but the usual suspects on this forum kept sourcing them to support their narratives.

Ali Alexander helped organize Jan 6 "stop the steal" protests with 3 Republican Congressmen.

Ali Alexander is a member of the CNP.

The problem with Adam Green is that he also pushes zionist propaganda when it comes to the right wing culture war.

He exposes zionism but covers for the greater Fascist agenda.

The fascists and zionists are working together, always have.

You have to expose them all.
I'm glad you mentioned Ali Alexander, such a shady grifter. There was a good article about his past crimes and affiliations. It's sad how easily duped some of the alt-right are.

I was posting again to show the Israeli connection to almost all of the alt-right, same as Q. Bizarre but doesn't it make sense as controlled opposition? Disinfo as an intelligence technique as well.

Yeah I've heard other criticisms for Green- that he's slipping too far into the "white nationalist" scene. O'Connell from Australia is losing his mind lately criticizing many of the "alt-media" as agents but IMO he's revealing so much of his own emotion it shows either jealousy or repressed anger... something. I'm just less critical over every perceived flaw. I take what's useful for shaping what I believe to be true.
 






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I'm glad you mentioned Ali Alexander, such a shady grifter. There was a good article about his past crimes and affiliations. It's sad how easily duped some of the alt-right are.

I was posting again to show the Israeli connection to almost all of the alt-right, same as Q. Bizarre but doesn't it make sense as controlled opposition? Disinfo as an intelligence technique as well.

Yeah I've heard other criticisms for Green- that he's slipping too far into the "white nationalist" scene. O'Connell from Australia is losing his mind lately criticizing many of the "alt-media" as agents but IMO he's revealing so much of his own emotion it shows either jealousy or repressed anger... something. I'm just less critical over every perceived flaw. I take what's useful for shaping what I believe to be true.
O'Connell, Adam Green, The Antedote guys, and Jon Swinn of Exposetheenemy.com all came together to pool their research under what they called Talpiottalk. This research centered heavily on exposing zionism and also Russian connection to zionism. Some of the only guys in "alt media" to honestly look into Russia gate and not just follow the heard by crying "Russia hoax"

This group fell apart as there was infighting.

O'Connell does seem to have lost it, but I agree with his calling many "alt media" guys shills, and he is right about Green and his white nationalism.

White nationalism IS backed by the Zionists of you look deep enough, so it all needs to be rejected.

This group of researchers are some of the very best to actually get to the bottom of what's happening.

I've already stated the Antedote guys are on of my favorite.

Green does good work when he's not pushing white nationalism, but ultimately I dont trust him.
 






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