Yep, Assassins Creed is all based around Templars and is rife with symbols. In fact earlier today I saw a dude wearing an Assassins Creed hoodie and it had the eye of horus in the middle of the normal symbol used on the game covers.
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I wouldn't say so.
That mechanism means "God from machine." Deus -- God. Which one this time? Satan because the themes that were occured in the game.
His name sounds like "War Inspector." And what are the 31st and 33rd degrees of Scottish Rite Freemasonry?Yes.
Speaking about Warren Spector himself... I am thinking too he is the one. And that name you knbow. Specter of what? Light?
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Epic Mickey is Disney.
For me the pattern of masons rises my red flag -- I think at least some of the developers team are masons and writers most likely one -- writning gives us way to much details about masons and NWO. Way to much in the details of their lives and behaviors if I explained clear. Men, who aren't part of the masonry won't knew such things.
Cybernetics isn't exactly played off as a positive thing. The first game actually laments the potential dehumanaization. (Canonically, considering he smashed his mirror, Adam Jensen is not happy about being a cyborg.
And evil. In the Dues Ex series, with the exception of Invisible War (a game everyone hates), the Illuminati is objectively 100% evil. To the point I'd argue they are actually bad antagonists... In a story, a good villain is evil but usually they have motivations which explain why they do horrible things. In Dues Ex it's pretty much "we're just bad guys who want to rule the world".
Which are bad. The drugs used to help people take cybernetics are a way they control people.
Dues ex Machina has nothing to do with the occult. It's a term in critique to describe to describe a sudden fortuitous turn when it shouldn't realistically happen in a story. The hero and their companions with their back to the wall? Suddenly, the hero discovers a new power her had. That's what a Dues ex Machina is.
Which is why I chose Tracer Tong's ending lol. It was the only one that prevented the Illuminati from gaining control, either through their corporations or the AIs they created. But the ending you are supposed to choose is not this one...even if in Invisible War all endings occured, that was just a way of making a sequel that fit with whatever ending you chose. You find out later that your augs have been made to interface with the AIs that merge, and the whole "benevolent dictator" aspect of it is probably the most appealing to the player. Especially for kids who don't know any better.
Mankind Divided was made right here in Montreal by Eidos Montreal and that team had nothing to do with Spector. Same for Human Revolution. I actually liked HR and MD more afterwards because the story was more nuanced. But again you play the role of a transhuman who is all powerful, and this is the power trip that they want the player to have. It doesn't matter if the bad guys are said to use augmentations to divide people, because the context here is that you are still using them to play the game. Also your life has been saved by this technology early in the game. And I could go into all the Icarus stuff and how occult it is.
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I've never actually finished Invisible War. I just didn't enjoy it enough to actually finish it, lol.
I think it's more the problem with narrative-gameplay dissidence than anything else. From a gameplay perspective, you want the game to be fun and there are a lot of cool options you could have... But as with almost any game, there's a stark divide between gameplay and story.
Here's the thing though; cybernetics has a lot of good, moral uses in the real world... But it could also be used for bad things, to cheat the natural order... Making the Icarus symbolism actually meaningful. He flew to close to the sun, after all.
This is sort of an oversimplification of the clans and ignores their curses (which where badly implemented in the game). It also ignores that the Tremere are genuinely presented as awful people. In the greater setting, they basically murdered the one "good" vampire for enteral life. (It's in quotation marks since in 2nd edition and Revised edition of the tabletop game, they make everything a bit darker, trying to get away from the black and white presentation of somethings.)
Malkavians all have a some sort of mental issues; it's part of their curse. Her alter personalities likely were created by her father in mortal life but after her change into a vampire.
Vampire: The Masqurade was made by Mark Rein-Hegan. The games, and it's predecessor Ars Magica, certainly used some "real world" occult ideas as influence... But the influence was only skin-deep, since the entire point of the setting was "our real world, except vampires and werewolves and wizards exist".
I finished it, but the 3 endings I was referring to were in the original Deus Ex. Invisible War begins by assuming all 3 endings have occurred so the player can have a sense of continuity no matter which ending (s)he chose in the first game.
I agree. Personnally I took all the revealing elements of the story, and ran with them. There is a lot of philosophical and political theory stuff in there that most people would fall asleep reading about. I mever finished HR cause frankly I sucked at boss fights and towards the end I gave up trying after realizing I did not pick up the "uber gear" that would let me kill those bosses, but instead went more for the hacking stuff. Did not finish MD either because after a while playing there was a bug that stopped saving my progress.
True, and this is where the story gets more nuanced. But I see the whole "but cybernetics could be used to save lives and help people" thing as a way to attract supporters first, pass laws for it etc. and then use the technology to enslave people later.
Vampire prototype was a satanits because they addicted to hormones human blood containts.
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God, I really need to replay it... I'm thinking about it and realizing it's been so long I don't really remember much other than the vague plot points.
I didn't play it until they released the director's cut, which helped a lot with the boss fights. It's worth replaying. The last segment is great. If anything, Mankind Divided should have actually had a different protagonist because of the events... It didn't since Jensen was liked and Corperate mandate.
The issue with cybernetics, like all things computer, as a means of control... The control would be limited, especially when it becomes so commonplace that it can be purchased by the urban poor, like in Dues Ex, since my that point it's cheap enough to homebrew. And in the case of Dues Ex, where criminals use cybernetics... You can sure as hell bet that like using burner phones, they'd make sure that their cybernetics is "clean" from anything that could track and/or control them,
This I'll totally agree with. 100%. The idea of an omnipotent, all-controlling force (even if it's evil) is something people use to cope with the chaos of the world, in my opinion. I think in reality, the "elite" contain multiple groups all working towards different goals. Some go
I'm more inclined to think it's because of the power myth. For those not aware of Icarus, they can see the high soaring man with wings, defying his nature... And those in the know can see a foreshadowing. Symbolism is important in stories... But as someone who fancies themselves a storyteller, who's writing their own story and creating a world to set it in... Symbolism isn't usually insidious.
I wouldn't think it's safe to think they are for or against the elite. Individual members working on each game might have their own views and would be anti-elite... But the team as a whole? For most people, it's just a job, and I imagine they don't think all that much about what they do and usually most developers don't really want anything to do with the game when they are done.
The vampire prototype was various creatures in folklore.
I imagine the vampire evolved because writers got tired of writing the same sort of creature, so they decided to write them differently. "Oh, my vampires can actually blend into human society. I mean, it makes sense if they have to prey on people!" See: Dracula. Later authors might try to add conflict. "Oh, my vampires aren't inherently evil because you don't have a choice to become one! Mine is noble, conflicted by the horror of their horrific nature!"
You could learn a lot of about the occult just by buying books on the occult. "Hidden" knowledge isn't so hidden, really. And if you're going to create a role-playing game based in the real world, you'd want to have "real world" occult elements so it feels "real"; Ars Magica and World of Darkness are both set in the "real" world.
Ohio is a state. I know a lot of people from Ohio. They are normal people.
Alternatively, it's also about the time it would take to a relatively rules heavy role-playing game like Ars Magica, playtest it, make sure it's fit to print, etc. It took me about a three weeks to do the rough draft of a rules lite RPG. Play testing is going to take at least two and a half-months, if not longer, then I actually have to clean up the rules and add fluff.
Yea I know, the story is great and I was so curious about the rest of the game that I spoiled some parts of it by reading the Deus Ex wiki. Oh well I might pick it up again soon.
I am more worried about any backdoor in the technology that might be put there, that is totally undetectable by known security measures. After all the internet has the darkweb, the darknet and according to rumors the deepest level of it is only accessible by using a quantum computer. And we are just beginning to build those in the public research sector. Quantum supremacy is apparently here thanks to Google but I am 99% sure that this technology is obsolete compared to what the private intelligence sector has...and this is the realm of the occultists, who love secrecy for this very reason. The commercial and public sector is said to be roughly 44 years behind what the military already has. And most of the electronic stuff we buy and sell was invented for the miltary, in secret at first. So, putting controlling backdoors inside the cyberenhancements could be a piece of cake. And this is exactly what the bad guys do in HR ironically. They put something in the biochip that emits a frequency wave that drives the person nuts and can remove any of their abilities at the push of a button.
The symbolism does not matter as much as its effect on the "unknowing masses", mythology is a powerful influence as people like Jung have said because it contains archetypes that are found in the subconscious. And as someone who makes games (all alone, so I also do some story telling) I try to use good archetypes for the player and not those that will badly influence them subliminally...
I never said that anyone from Ohio is a satanist. By I find the birth place of this well of man suspicios.
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This franshise have billions put into it and wide marketing campagn. It serves the purpose of desensetivity the society- they show the truth, hiding it into "it just a game", ''those sercret societies are imagination and who revealing are just nutty". It works - people are lazy and don't wish to realise we are all enslaved.