US Civil War Coming Soon?

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Maybe now is a good time to jog the memory?

DHS purchases 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition

" DHS claims that it is buying ammo in bulk to save money, but experts have pointed out that hollow point bullets cost nearly twice as much as full metal jacket rounds. They also explode on impact for maximum damage, which has caused some Americans to wonder what purpose they would serve the DHS domestically. Purchasing 1.6 billion rounds of ammo would also give DHS the means to fight the equivalent of a 24-year Iraq War. Members of Congress say the DHS has repeatedly refused to tell them the purpose of procuring such large amounts of ammo."

Why The Heck Is DHS Buying More Than A Billion Bullets Plus Thousands Of Guns And Mine-Resistant Armored Vehicles?
(^ is a Forbes article)
I think at one point their weak ass excuse was target/training purposes. The elephant in the room is that you don't need hollow points for that.
 

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Leftists are desperately encouraging more and more violence toward Trump supporters, and while in polite society Sarah Sanders gets chased out of restaurants, on the streets the left are getting put down hard. The left can have their crappy restaurants. This is awesome.


The cops stood by in Charlottesville while leftist thugs attacked anyone who wasn't sufficiently anti-Trump. The guy in the white sleeves in that video -- the guy who blocked three blows from a steel baton and then dropped the Antifa goon with one punch -- looks like a pro. There are people who believe, and I think they're right, that guys like that are being inserted into street situations to stop the violent left before they do anything serious. The message being sent to the left is that street level revolution will be met with force.
That video need to put into a loop or maybe a mashup with epic beard guy.
 

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I love how some who get the vast majority of their information on the U.S. via mainstream media think there will be a civil war. What if I were to tell you that it was a distraction and that everyday life here has no protests or fights. The ones which take place are orchestrated and the only viable reason would be martial law. Sure, there are the fringe few which get covered by the news,but for the most part the wheel is turning in this country save what you see in the hyper media which is in no way an accurate depiction.

Now, that said, there could be an somewhat invisible civil war between nationalists or those who love their country and traditions and globalist who want to tear the country down. Interestingly, most who tear down the US are taking a globalist stance which will lead to a one world leadership and a far more police state than those envisioned here.

There is an information war at hand and some of you have only a part of it while living in Europe or elsewhere only going on what the media tells you. You Tube is on the verge of knocking the videos most here watch off the web, completely. And the tech giants are trying to weight fake news to save the propaganda machine worldwide for a likely coming technocracy/globalist way of life. Like I said, some are falling for the distraction set up by the MSM, swallowing the bait of a civil war in the US which is not going to happen as it did in the 1800's for nobody seems to get that there cannot be boundaries within ideal differences. Perhaps some skirmishes orchestrated to intervene.

Imagine the MSM as the man with the ball in sports on the soccer.football field, hockey ice or basketball court. The man with the ball is distracting and a magnet for your attention. But what the other players are doing off ball leads to the reveal.
For some unexplained reason, when other people post MSM articles, you are quick to call them out as tainted and giving an inaccurate portrayal. Yet, whenever you post MSM articles (like the 4 in the border thread), that's completely fine and whatever is contained therein is the truth. The inconsistency is unsettling, to say the least. Really, iam confused.
 

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For some unexplained reason, when other people post MSM articles, you are quick to call them out as tainted and giving an inaccurate portrayal. Yet, whenever you post MSM articles (like the 4 in the border thread), that's completely fine and whatever is contained therein is the truth. The inconsistency is unsettling, to say the least. Really, iam confused.
Well, just because I used those four links does not mean I buy into them 100%. In fact, I was simply giving what was accepted by posters in said thread as a form of argument. If they're using links to back up a stance, why not do the same? Trust me, I do not believe in the MSM in any way and not one single person here does not use those links at times.

What I will make clear since you seemed to own it is that someone in the UK that think the US is close to a civil war is comical to many here, I am not saying that to be a jerk, just trying to share some facts that everyday life here is not what you see in the MSM. Furthermore, you are free to call "any" lnk I post out as tainted or disagree with it.

Honestly, I do not take some conversations as serious anymore in that it is clear where most regulars stand. But I will always listen to a person who lives in Europe or Asia when they are trying to educate by sharing what is really going on in their countries. I see it as a service to share things which are not truly depicted, especially in a forum like this.

So, again, not to insult, but to share that I think you have a picture of the US mostly from MSM and not actually haven seen the place first hand or on a daily basis. I hope this explained reason helps. And for what it is worth, I never said those links were true and in fact, said nothing at all. I simply provided some links which others were doing. And yes, I think the vast majority of the links here are tainted including some that I use. That is why it is so hard to get to the real truth and shared experiences from those who live in certain places, have experienced major travel or have a niche expertise is what I seek. But then that brings us to trust and honesty which is another conversation altogether. Is that person real or are they yet another sock or plant.

Right now, I am most concerned with what You Tube and Twitter are doing in getting rid of so called fake news while giving money to MSM sources to keep them alive and viable. It is going on right under our nose and sites like this may be doomed in time as well for the Jezebelles of the world (see main site page). The tech companies are trying to silence many for a one world think.
 
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Well, just because I used those four links does not mean I buy into them 100%.
Same for us. Notice I put a question mark in the title? I consider ALL sources of information as being at least partly truthful, and partly false. In fact, most disinformation is done by providing 90% truth with a 10% lie.

And when I look at "alternative media" I often find very slanted information that is mixed with personal opinions in it. It's also a known fact that a lot of the alternative media is spook infested. So, no matter the form of media, discernment is key. Dismissing something entirely is unwise.
 

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So we now have the "Resistance". This resistance isn't formally organised, but it ranges from things like refusing service to Sarah Sanders at one restaurant and then following her to another to accost her family there, to the anti-free-speech riots at campuses when Ben Shapiro speaks, to doxing ICE agents, to the attack on Rand Paul in his front yard (and recent death threats against his family), to the shooting of Steve Scalise. Conservatives just don't do these things, but on the left, they are just another way of fighting political battles.
Yeah, conservatives never deny people servi-...

Errr, I mean, conservatives never riot on camp-....

Errr, I mean, conservatives never attack anyone on their own prop-...

Errrr, I mean, conservatives never engage in politically motivated shooti-....

It's fair to point out hypocrisy and bad behavior on the left, but it's derpy as fuck to suggest conservatives are incapable of either. Obviously conservatives can behave just as badly, and you've just demonstrated the hypocrisy bit.
 

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I posted this up elsewhere, but I think the message to the left is shouted loud and clear through this top selling game:


Create two antagonistic narratives then apply a little pressure and direction...

 
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Leftists are desperately encouraging more and more violence toward Trump supporters, and while in polite society Sarah Sanders gets chased out of restaurants, on the streets the left are getting put down hard. The left can have their crappy restaurants. This is awesome.


The cops stood by in Charlottesville while leftist thugs attacked anyone who wasn't sufficiently anti-Trump. The guy in the white sleeves in that video -- the guy who blocked three blows from a steel baton and then dropped the Antifa goon with one punch -- looks like a pro. There are people who believe, and I think they're right, that guys like that are being inserted into street situations to stop the violent left before they do anything serious. The message being sent to the left is that street level revolution will be met with force.
Ok no. That guy didn't block three hits, he dodged one, and he doesn't look like a pro, he looks like a gym rat who got lucky and landed a hay maker. But, don't worry there will be no violent revolution white supremacist will simply be shamed out of society and their only safe space left will be on some compound in Montana, which is a perfectly good space for them to be in.
 

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Well, just because I used those four links does not mean I buy into them 100%. In fact, I was simply giving what was accepted by posters in said thread as a form of argument. If they're using links to back up a stance, why not do the same? Trust me, I do not believe in the MSM in any way and not one single person here does not use those links at times.

What I will make clear since you seemed to own it is that someone in the UK that think the US is close to a civil war is comical to many here, I am not saying that to be a jerk, just trying to share some facts that everyday life here is not what you see in the MSM. Furthermore, you are free to call "any" lnk I post out as tainted or disagree with it.

Honestly, I do not take some conversations as serious anymore in that it is clear where most regulars stand. But I will always listen to a person who lives in Europe or Asia when they are trying to educate by sharing what is really going on in their countries. I see it as a service to share things which are not truly depicted, especially in a forum like this.

So, again, not to insult, but to share that I think you have a picture of the US mostly from MSM and not actually haven seen the place first hand or on a daily basis. I hope this explained reason helps. And for what it is worth, I never said those links were true and in fact, said nothing at all. I simply provided some links which others were doing. And yes, I think the vast majority of the links here are tainted including some that I use. That is why it is so hard to get to the real truth and shared experiences from those who live in certain places, have experienced major travel or have a niche expertise is what I seek. But then that brings us to trust and honesty which is another conversation altogether. Is that person real or are they yet another sock or plant.

Right now, I am most concerned with what You Tube and Twitter are doing in getting rid of so called fake news while giving money to MSM sources to keep them alive and viable. It is going on right under our nose and sites like this may be doomed in time as well for the Jezebelles of the world (see main site page). The tech companies are trying to silence many for a one world think.
Just as Helioform stated, we all post msm sources but are also fully aware that the owners of the media houses are also owned/compromised. I won't find their admissions any where else, a straight-out-of-the-horse's-mouth kind of thing, if their publications are dismissed entirely.
But thanks for your response and for clarifying.
 

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For some unexplained reason, when other people post MSM articles, you are quick to call them out as tainted and giving an inaccurate portrayal. Yet, whenever you post MSM articles (like the 4 in the border thread), that's completely fine and whatever is contained therein is the truth. The inconsistency is unsettling, to say the least. Really, iam confused.
Bingo. The hypocrisy is thick within his posts, thank you for pointing that out!
 

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Yeah, conservatives never deny people servi-...

Errr, I mean, conservatives never riot on camp-....

Errr, I mean, conservatives never attack anyone on their own prop-...

Errrr, I mean, conservatives never engage in politically motivated shooti-....

It's fair to point out hypocrisy and bad behavior on the left, but it's derpy as fuck to suggest conservatives are incapable of either. Obviously conservatives can behave just as badly, and you've just demonstrated the hypocrisy bit.
At this point, Dumbdarian is pretty much a hit-and-run poster as most are hep to, and sick of, his online games. Hes not a serious poster, even though he posts on threads regarding serious topics. Hes a distractionista at best, and likely a whole lot worse. I salute your efforts on correcting his false narratives and outright lies.
 
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Some of you who are so quick to place blame on "leftists" could really use a history lesson. Have we already forgotten that any influential left-leaning democrats either changed their tune or died mysterious deaths at the hands of the Bush-Cheney organized crime syndicate? Have we also forgotten that the Clintons were merely the underlings of this syndicate?? LOL Don't be so gullible. Turn off the Fox News already, clear your mind.
 

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Bingo. The hypocrisy is thick within his posts, thank you for pointing that out!
As is your inability to get past pretty much anything while consistently baiting and stalking others comments. People are tiring of your expertise on commenting on other posters. There is a distinct familiarity to your style from someone past. I guess this is where you totally derail the discussion and lose it from my response.
Some of you who are so quick to place blame on "leftists" could really use a history lesson. Have we already forgotten that any influential left-leaning democrats either changed their tune or died mysterious deaths at the hands of the Bush-Cheney organized crime syndicate? Have we also forgotten that the Clintons were merely the underlings of this syndicate?? LOL Don't be so gullible. Turn off the Fox News already, clear your mind.
Is this why I can count on little shots from you, here and there? I can easily drum up a few where I did not respond originally if you deny it.

I think people have clearly stated in this thread that all MSM sources are tainted including FOX news. But the left controls almost all of the other media outlets and we can always just give into socialism which there is no record record of it ever working and going to a one world leadership which their current policies lead to. There is no left or right in corruption.

Let's get the lefties or lets get the righties gets old but some cannot objectively see the real happenings and are therefore victims to agendas. People must fit others here into a box to converse when it is not that simple. If it is that simple or some fit in a box, then why is there any conversation at all?
 
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Is this why I can count on little shots from you, here and there? I think people have clearly stated in this thread that all MSM sources are tainted including FOX news. But the left controls almost all of the other media outlets and we can always just give into socialism which there is no record record of it ever working and going to a one world leadership which their current policies lead to.

Let's get the lefties or lets get the righties gets old but some cannot objectively see the real happenings.
"the left controls the media" Yes, that is the script we are witnessing. In reality, the media is the propaganda arm of the deep state syndicate who have a firm control over all of D.C. on both sides, and are the criminals who also have eliminated all left-leaning opposition to their war crimes. You are being duped. It's a show.
 

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"the left controls the media" Yes, that is the script we are witnessing. In reality, the media is the propaganda arm of the deep state syndicate who have a firm control over all of D.C. on both sides, and are the criminals who also have eliminated all left-leaning opposition to their war crimes. You are being duped. It's a show.
Actually, we are in a bit of agreement here. I realize it is a show but still bothered to point out a fact, or, one on the surface of things. I do think the establishment/deep state prefers the current left take on things in that it pushed towards globalism. OTOH, it could be just more stretched out opposition to keep people off balance. Just take a look at what is on the news now with the FBI guys being questioned and you see that some politicians think they are actually in control and or are dumb enough to feel as if there is no control above them. As long as we consume... they will feed us,
 
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I think the best strategy for the globalists at this point is to put NATO on blast, and make accusations against soft foreign policy, even though NATO foreign policy is already way too aggressive. Also raising trade barriers would help a lot. Oh, wait...
 

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What pisses me off is we as an overall people do not understand how manipulated our lives have been since birth. Indoctrination of control started in the early 1900's in force and through all of time. How are we to know what a normal everyday life should feel like? Our parents were duped as were those before them on some things and it becomes normalized behavior. In a sense, we have been cheated or had some natural things hidden from us.
 
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As is your inability to get past pretty much anything while consistently baiting and stalking others comments. People are tiring of your expertise on commenting on other posters. There is a distinct familiarity to your style from someone past. I guess this is where you totally derail the discussion and lose it from my response.

Is this why I can count on little shots from you, here and there? I can easily drum up a few where I did not respond originally if you deny it.

I think people have clearly stated in this thread that all MSM sources are tainted including FOX news. But the left controls almost all of the other media outlets and we can always just give into socialism which there is no record record of it ever working and going to a one world leadership which their current policies lead to. There is no left or right in corruption.

Let's get the lefties or lets get the righties gets old but some cannot objectively see the real happenings and are therefore victims to agendas. People must fit others here into a box to converse when it is not that simple. If it is that simple or some fit in a box, then why is there any conversation at all?
"As is your inability to get past pretty much anything while consistently baiting and stalking others comments."
So what it appears you dont appreciate is my calling you out on your posts. You dont have anything real to defend your position with, so you claim that I am "baiting" which you have apparently confused for "de-bating". You also dont like other posters calling you out and critiquing the substance (or lack thereof) of your posts, posts which you place here specifically for dialog, so your false narrative, knee-jerk reaction is to throw out a "stalking" accusation. Stop playing the victim, I have only called you out on what you post, nothing else.

"People are tiring of your expertise on commenting on other posters."
I have claimed no "expertise" on this subject, if you cant handle straight up debate and critical analysis of what you post, dont post things. If you cant handle being challenged, especially when you are so wrong so often, dont post. Im not going to stop agreeing/disagreeing with anyone I choose to and I dont think other serious posters should either. But if you and Dumbdarian want to have a pity party for yourself where you ascribe these mythical titles to me, do your thang.

"There is a distinct familiarity to your style from someone past."
Yeah the old sock-puppet account accusation. Its thrown around a lot here, and has been thrown at me before. Last time it was suggested, I in turn suggested that they contact the website operator to verify if I am indeed exactly who I say I am or if my info comes back as a sock-puppeteer who should be banned.

"I guess this is where you totally derail the discussion and lose it from my response."
You guessed wrong, as usual.
 

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I do not pay close attention to all your posts, so uncertain who Dumbdarian might be. But you do carry debates if that is what it is when attempting to discuss issues with you to other threads. In short, your comment had nothing to do with the subject matter here if you read responses, so that is baiting to me and offering the same pitty pats to someone you think had an issue with me when in fact we have a long history of getting along swimmingly.

I think you put people into categories if they have in some way riled you and can't get past it and there is a lot of evidence of an inability to get past that or start fresh as if you hold grudges. You are very stand offish and that will lead to some playing White/Black Knight at times.

If there are tag teams here, I am not a part of any. Can you say the same?

As for a sock, I dunno for sure nor did I actually say that, but simply made the comment your stand offish style seems familiar to me. If I am not mistaken you accused me of using or being a sock, plant or something akin.

And lastly, there is an issue with concern to my comment about expertise. You are making reference to this threads subject while I am making reference to how you have a way of talking about posters here.

I know you will take this as sarcasm or a shot but if you would learn to use the quote feature it would make it much easier to decipher who said what and where your response start.

Lastly, really, this time...I am who I am. I have, nor have had, any sock accounts in that I live a full life away from the forum. Most here know that and most here with whom I have had spirited debates with or disagreements know we have been on the same page on other things. In short, we get past the petty shit.
 
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Some of you who are so quick to place blame on "leftists" could really use a history lesson. Have we already forgotten that any influential left-leaning democrats either changed their tune or died mysterious deaths at the hands of the Bush-Cheney organized crime syndicate? Have we also forgotten that the Clintons were merely the underlings of this syndicate?? LOL Don't be so gullible. Turn off the Fox News already, clear your mind.
those leftists during that time period were liberals, but not the progressive leftists of today. the progressive left took control over the democratic party. go check out raineranns post about "walk away".
the clintons are big time. theyve got a LOT of power. bill and bush sr. are/were very close. bill is the slimy, manipulative son he never had since jeb is a loser and george is half stupid.
 
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