Twitter Permanently Bans Conservative Gavin McInnes and the Official Proud Boys Account

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Men being men? Lmao.

I looked at a few Antifa profiles. And they seemed angry but they at least were angry about real issues. The Proud Boys just seem angry at the people who aren't like them. It's like they are just standing up for the right to be assholes. I don't get that shit at all.

I think it's more manly to try to pick up your fellow humans. Plus we have seen plenty of the "Proud Boy" types run away at the first sign of trouble. And cry on camera. That's called being all bark and no bite. Probably because their argument is a dog whistle.

I like dogs too. But let's get it straight. This right-wing macho shit isn't men being men. It's men being dogs and trying to force everyone to be ok with it. And we aren't ok with it. Most of these goofs would get shot on the street over the fake tough guy act. So anyway, I'm just not impressed by all the professional wrestling type of rhetoric.
 
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LOL Not at all. I am fairly well read on Antifa and have seen them up close in some cases. I get their official party line as well, but they still seem like a group in many ways. These types of movements have been around for a long time and it is just in recent years that Antifa has come to the forefront in Europe and on the West Coast of the US. I just do not think it is realistic to think there had been a mass infiltration. Movements without leaders are hard to track yet there are organizers which in a sense can be spun as leaders. They claim to do this not to be outed, correct me if I am wrong.
Alright, then. Ask me this.

If you read up on antifa, why on earth would they be darlings of the mainstream media? You know, considering as a whole they are anarchists, socialists, and communists? You know... Anti-capitalist ideologies. The mainstream media thrives on capitalism. And antifa tends to find MSM just as garbage as you do for a different reason...(And felt they were getting a shit from the media, btw.)

EDIT: Also, if you were actually well-read on antifa, you're realize that they are usually the ones that cops beat the shit out of in G20 conventions, that conspiracy theorists even a couple years ago believed when they said that most of the violence was performed by infiltrators. But hey, guess it can't be the same in America.
 
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It's worth nothing that...

1.) Some off those antifa accounts have a fair chance of actually being troll accounts, because antifa isn't an organization. It's a decentralized movement that's purpose is to oppose fascism. Because it's decentralized, literally anyone can say they are antifa. This includes right-wing groups that use their symbolism and language to actually work against anti-fascist action.

2.) Antifa is not inherently violent. While antifa does believe that you need to oppose fascism by any means and don't dismiss the use of violence the vast majority of antifa only use violence (at least towards people) as a means of self-defense. That doesn't mean some people use violence far to readily but demonizing antifa because of those people is like demonizing BLM.

3.) The violence commited by antifa and violence committed by the far-right are not equivalent. This is not a defense of violence. I don't believe violence (at least against people) can serve as a means to the end, politically. But punching someone who chants racist bullshit or promotes the idea of a white ethnostate brought on by "peaceful" ethnic cleansing is not the same as beating someone because they are non-white.This sort of false equivalency is the same logic that the American government uses to send drones to bomb the shit out of Middle Eastern villages.
Absurd post on so many levels. There are strong strains of violence throughout antifa and the far (is it far these days) left? How many videos do you need to see of some left wing professor swinging a bike lock or some punk using an aersol can as a flamethrower? These are not government operatives LUL. You can read or hear about the desire of these people to commit violence all the time on Twitter or being interviewed. I can show you a great Steven Crowder video about it. I can show you videos where these idiots even mistakenly assault people on their side. Antifa is by and large a descpicable and anti free speech group of people.

I'm sick of you left wing loons defending violence and attacking free speech. There is no "hate speech" clause in the Constitution. It's just speech you hate. White supremacists, white nationalists, racists, ect. have a right to free speech and demonstration in this country. Antifa are actual fascits. Calling yourself anti fascist means nothing. Look how these thugs shut down speech at college campuses. You're wearing a MAGA hat? You're a fascist so I have the right to attack you.

Try to repeal the first amendment or GTFO of this country and go somewhere else that doesn't have free speech.
 
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Absurd post on so many levels. There are strong strains of violence throughout antifa and the far (is it far these days) left? How many videos do you need to see of some left wing professor swinging a bike lock or some punk using an aersol can as a flamethrower? These are not government operatives LUL. You can read or hear about the desire of these people to commit violence all the time on Twitter or being interviewed. I can show you a great Steven Crowder video about it. I can show you videos where these idiots even mistakenly assault people on their side. Antifa is by and large a descpicable and anti free speech group of people.

I'm sick of you left wing loons defending violence and attacking free speech. There is no "hate speech" clause in the Constitution. It's just speech you hate. White supremacists, white nationalists, racists, ect. have a right to free speech and demonstration in this country. Antifa are actual fascits. Calling yourself anti fascist means nothing. Look how these thugs shut down speech at college campuses. You're wearing a MAGA hat? You're a fascist so I have the right to attack you.

Try to repeal the first amendment or GTFO of this country and go somewhere else that doesn't have free speech.

You say my post is absurd, but judging for your reply, I'm not entire sure you've actually read.

I never defended violence. I never said that antifa doesn't use violence as a means to an end and I've even stated that some people affiliated with it are too eager to use it. The only thing that I said claiming all violence is the same is a false statement. Sucker punching someone like Richard Spencer is wrong, but isn't the moral equivalent to assaulting someone just based on the color of their skin.

I'm not attacking free speech, either. I actually don't believe in trying to silence white nationalism because I've had personal experiences with them. When you take away their platform, it just further radicalizes them and makes it more likely they'll engage in violence. That doesn't mean that good people have to, or even should, allow them to speak without commendation or ridicule. Freedom of speech does not protect you from criticism.
 

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They aren't racist. They're Western chauvinists who don't mind fighting about it. They are for men being men, which we really can't get enough of these days.

Then why dont "they" fight fair? And since they are so down to jump people, how come "they" still cant "win"?
 

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I was not stalking I was searching for your alleged posts on 5G on these forums. Turns out that you randomly copy pasted some of them. I will provide the proof on your latest in my 5G thread.
This dude is employing the ridiculous new strategy of provocation via intense trolling, then whining about being "stalked". The rap community does it by flailing around for attention through provocation and then when they finally get a bit, they say things like "I guess you are all in your feelings, why you into your feelings on this"? It sometimes works online, but usually ends up with getting their asses kicked in public.....much like the "Proud Boys" themselves!
 

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You guys, huh? Sides. Liberals. I have rarely if ever used a poll here. Get off of my lawn, stalker.
So you post on here, intentionally provoking site members, then whine once you receive the attention you are craving? Nobody here is stalking you, you views just arent very popular lol

As for your "Sides" strawman.... wasn't it you who posted just on the next page: "I yield to the libs." Im not a "lib" and your hypocrisy is on full display........
 
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They aren't racist. They're Western chauvinists who don't mind fighting about it. They are for men being men, which we really can't get enough of these days.
More like men being children. They're still working out insecurities that belong in the schoolyard, so they are far from developed adults. What I see are children clinging to whatever extensions of the ego they can and mislabeling it as "pride". Really they are not proud in any rational sense and in reality have zero confidence because they refuse to know themselves, and are compensating for this by irrationally identifying the self with external things instead.
 

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More like men being children. They're still working out insecurities that belong in the schoolyard, so they are far from developed adults. What I see are children clinging to whatever extensions of the ego they can and mislabeling it as "pride". Really they are not proud in any rational sense and in reality have zero confidence because they refuse to know themselves, and are compensating for this by irrationally identifying the self with external things instead.
Dang. That was about as direct and succinct an analysis of them, or practically anyone, that I have seen on this site. Props to you.
 

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So you post on here, intentionally provoking site members, then whine once you receive the attention you are craving? Nobody here is stalking you, you views just arent very popular lol

As for your "Sides" strawman.... wasn't it you who posted just on the next page: "I yield to the libs." Im not a "lib" and your hypocrisy is on full display........
I am not the only one noticing how easily you are provoked by anyone you label righty. You are very rough around the edges when discussing things and hold a lot of anger. And yes, you do stalk my posts and bring the same argument no matter what post I might be in. Your hate for Trump borders on comedy and you think people are not able to see good and bad in a person. If I see one thing good in Trump and mention it, you go off the deep end. As for my views, well, you barely have more likes than posts and most of them are from the same couple of people. Your issue is that you cannot allow others a view and come out raw, flinging accusations and all-out lies. You say I say stuff and then cannot provide a quote every other day. Do I confront every post you make? Where and how am I trolling you?
 
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I am not the only one noticing how easily you are provoked by anyone you label righty. You are very rough around the edges when discussing things and hold a lot of anger. And yes, you do stalk my posts and bring the same argument no matter what post I might be in. Your hate for Trump borders on comedy and you think people are not able to see good and bad in a person. If I see one thing good in Trump and mention it, you go off the deep end. As for my views, well, you barely have more likes than posts and most of them are from the same couple of people. Your issue is that you cannot allow others a view.
Yeah, you Dumbdarian and a few others in your posse counts for "not the only one" I suppose. Can you show me where I ever labeled anyone a "righty" or specifically complained about their right-wingedness? More strawmen and outright lies from a loser with a losing argument lol

Nobody is stalking you. You troll, get checked on it and proceed directly to whining about being "stalked".

Your support for Trump and his child-stealing policies showcase what you really believe in. Even though you support and purport bald-faced lies, you still expect to be taken seriously and shown respect. Your hero has been named in lawsuits right along with Jeffy Epstein, straight up, hes been named in lawsuits as a child raping pedo, yet here you are defending him.
 

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I asked you to show where I troll and FWIW, the second you appear here each day you come straight to my posts. Posting history shows that clearly. Opinions and discussion is not trolling. You go for the name calling and labeled me again just then and go into the child stealing routine for the 1764th time. You quite simply see what you want to see and turn into some internet tough guy even saying things like I would get my arse kicked in on the streets. You are ridiculously raw. Do you see me hanging behind all of your posts? No. Again, opinions are not baiting. Another sidetracked thread by TempestofTemp. I know some people whose brains are fried from drugs that can at least differentiate different discussions in different threads and not run it all together.
 
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What libs? Why are you making it a liberal/conservative thing?
Generally, liberal is a term for those people who promote leftist ideology and support groups associated with leftist causes. ‘Progressive-left’ is the flavor of the day (‘liberal’ having fallen out of favor, however, sounding much better than ‘Marxist’) while ‘Regressive-left’ appears a more accurate definition of the current thought processes and behaviors of leftists.

[Insert leftist mob] (Antifa, BLM... Alt-left?) are following the community organizing model developed by radical leftist Saul Alinsky. Therefore, by aligning with radicals or attempting to minimize their behavior, those who claim no political agenda is involved would appear more credible (and believable) simply admitting Antifa are fascists. (Individuals on the left consistently fail to connect the history of community organizing with the current apoplectic mobs roaming the streets.)

The alternative is to deny the definition of the word fascist. Making up a new definition for a word is a favored, recurring meme among leftists (e.g. Marxism -> Communism -> Socialism -> Liberalism -> Progressivism -> Social Justice).

As with the redefining of Marxism, redefining fascism to fit The SJW Narrative will not make the illusion of an “organic movement of likeminded individuals banding together to defend the oppressed through nonviolent protest” (Antifa) a reality to the minds of people who have not suffered from exposure to intellectually crippling misinformation and have the slightest ability to entertain diversity of intellectual thought.

Antifa’s claim to be anti-facist or apolitical while behaving as radical-left fascists is intellectually dishonest and unconvincing.
 
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Generally, liberal is a term for those people who promote leftist ideology and support groups associated with leftist causes. ‘Progressive-left’ is the flavor of the day (‘liberal’ having fallen out of favor, however, sounding much better than ‘Marxist’) while ‘Regressive-left’ appears a more accurate definition of the current thought processes and behaviors of leftists.

[Insert leftist mob] (Antifa, BLM... Alt-left?) are following the community organizing model developed by radical leftist Saul Alinsky. Therefore, by aligning with radicals or attempting to minimize their behavior, those who claim no political agenda is involved would appear more credible (and believable) simply admitting Antifa are fascists. (Individuals on the left consistently fail to connect the history of community organizing with the current apoplectic mobs roaming the streets.)

The alternative is to deny the definition of the word fascist. Making up a new definition for a word is a favored, recurring meme among leftists (e.g. Marxism -> Communism -> Socialism -> Liberalism -> Progressivism -> Social Justice).

As with the redefining of Marxism, redefining fascism to fit The SJW Narrative will not make the illusion of an “organic movement of likeminded individuals banding together to defend the oppressed through nonviolent protest” (Antifa) a reality to the minds of people who have not suffered from exposure to intellectually crippling misinformation and have the slightest ability to entertain diversity of intellectual thought.

Antifa’s claim to be anti-facist or apolitical while behaving as radical-left fascists is intellectually dishonest and unconvincing.
Before I do say anything else, please stop using fascism as a synonym for authoritarianism . Facism is explicitly right-wing. That does not mean the left isn't capable of being authoritarian, it just means that words mean something and when you use a word that doesn't mean what you think it does it hurts you argument.

Secondly, communism, socialism, liberalism, progressivism, and social justice are not the same thing. They are all left-wing, yes, and most thave their roots with Marx but saying they are all the same would be like me saying that right-libertarianism, neoconservatives, and fascism is the same thing.


Last, No one would call antifa apolitical. Because even if most members didn't adhere to various political ideologies, their very opposition to fascim makes them political by default.
 

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Generally, liberal is a term for those people who promote leftist ideology and support groups associated with leftist causes. ‘Progressive-left’ is the flavor of the day (‘liberal’ having fallen out of favor, however, sounding much better than ‘Marxist’) while ‘Regressive-left’ appears a more accurate definition of the current thought processes and behaviors of leftists.

[Insert leftist mob] (Antifa, BLM... Alt-left?) are following the community organizing model developed by radical leftist Saul Alinsky. Therefore, by aligning with radicals or attempting to minimize their behavior, those who claim no political agenda is involved would appear more credible (and believable) simply admitting Antifa are fascists. (Individuals on the left consistently fail to connect the history of community organizing with the current apoplectic mobs roaming the streets.)

The alternative is to deny the definition of the word fascist. Making up a new definition for a word is a favored, recurring meme among leftists (e.g. Marxism -> Communism -> Socialism -> Liberalism -> Progressivism -> Social Justice).

As with the redefining of Marxism, redefining fascism to fit The SJW Narrative will not make the illusion of an “organic movement of likeminded individuals banding together to defend the oppressed through nonviolent protest” (Antifa) a reality to the minds of people who have not suffered from exposure to intellectually crippling misinformation and have the slightest ability to entertain diversity of intellectual thought.

Antifa’s claim to be anti-facist or apolitical while behaving as radical-left fascists is intellectually dishonest and unconvincing.
None of those things are the same. Liberal and leftist don't have the same meaning or connotations and liberalism has nothing to do with marxism. Also directly fighting/combating fascists and fascism doesn't make someone a fascist... if you said that you would be redefining the term fascist. It's odd that you claim to be concerned with the misuse of political terminology when you're doing that very thing in this post.
 
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I asked you to show where I troll and FWIW, the second you appear here each day you come straight to my posts. Posting history shows that clearly. Opinions and discussion is not trolling. You go for the name calling and labeled me again just then and go into the child stealing routine for the 1764th time. You quite simply see what you want to see and turn into some internet tough guy even saying things like I would get my arse kicked in on the streets. You are ridiculously raw. Do you see me hanging behind all of your posts? No. Again, opinions are not baiting. Another sidetracked thread by TempestofTemp. I know some people whose brains are fried from drugs that can at least differentiate different discussions in different threads and not run it all together.
I asked you to show where I troll and FWIW, the second you appear here each day you come straight to my posts. Posting history shows that clearly. Opinions and discussion is not trolling. You go for the name calling and labeled me again just then and go into the child stealing routine for the 1764th time. You quite simply see what you want to see and turn into some internet tough guy even saying things like I would get my arse kicked in on the streets. You are ridiculously raw. Do you see me hanging behind all of your posts? No. Again, opinions are not baiting. Another sidetracked thread by TempestofTemp. I know some people whose brains are fried from drugs that can at least differentiate different discussions in different threads and not run it all together.
"the second you appear here each day you come straight to my posts. Posting history shows that clearly."
Wrong.

"Opinions and discussion is not trolling"
Thats correct. But lying and provoking is.

"You go for the name calling and labeled me again"
I have refrained from calling you any names until now, I admit I called you a loser here. You have been spewing name calling and insults all over this very thread tho with such gems as "Troll, so hard. And you are sitting in your Dads basement playing video games somewhere in Canada who doesn't work. You are a bottom of the totem pole feeder." and "You have zero reading comprehension skills. And you are an absolute idiot"

"You quite simply see what you want to see and turn into some internet tough guy even saying things like I would get my arse kicked in on the streets."
I dont recall posting that. If I did, feel free to link where I made such a remark.

You wear your self-inflicted victimization around like a combo badge of honor and get out of jail free card.
 

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You work on making a clearer message while I am away. It is really not hard to master quotes.
 
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