Theres nothing in scripture that says God would use Israel to "colonize the world" even when they were disobeying the covenant.He said that once they disobeyed the covenant that THEY'D be colonized. Thats not what happened in your scenario though..
God's Blessing to the seed of Abraham was
completely unconditional to them keeping The Mosaic Covenant (which only came later and
in addition) because of what Abraham had done:
Genesis
22:16 And said, By Myself have I sworn, saith the "I AM", for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only [son]:
22:17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as "
the stars of the heaven", and as the sand which [is] upon the sea shore; and
thy descendants shall possess the (sea) gates of their enemies;
22:18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;
because thou hast obeyed My voice.
The Mosaic Covenant which follows this, then has
additional and
conditional Blessings in it, in
addition to the
unconditional Blessings that God promised to the seed of Abraham. The wholly unconditional Blessing promised by God to Abraham's seed, was passed down to
Isaac:
Genesis
21:12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called [(I)saac's sons - Saxons].
21:13 And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he [is] thy seed.
The unconditional Blessing was then passed down to
Jacob:
27:30 And it came to pass, as soon as Isaac had made an end of blessing Jacob, and Jacob was yet scarce gone out from the presence of Isaac his father, that Esau his brother came in from his hunting.
And Esau (Edom) hated Jacob (Israel) over this.
27:41 And Esau hated Jacob because of the blessing wherewith his father blessed him: and Esau said in his heart, The days of mourning for my father are at hand; then will I slay my brother Jacob.
But, even so, the Promised Blessing to Abraham's seed went to
Jacob/Israel nonetheless:
28:1 And
Isaac called
Jacob, and
blessed him, and charged him, and said unto him, Thou shalt not take a wife of the daughters of Canaan.
28:2 Arise, go to Padanaram, to the house of Bethuel thy mother's father; and take thee a wife from thence of the daughters of Laban thy mother's brother.
28:3 And God Almighty
bless thee, and
make thee fruitful, and
multiply thee, that thou mayest be
a multitude of people;
28:4
And give thee the blessing of Abraham, to thee, and to thy seed with thee; that thou mayest inherit the land wherein thou art a stranger, which God gave unto Abraham.
Then, this
wholly unconditional Blessing of God's Promise to Abraham (which was to
inherit all of the land that God had promised
to Abraham) was then passed down to the
twelve tribes/sons of Jacob/Israel, according to how their father
prophesied to them:
49:28 All these [are] the
twelve tribes of Israel: and
this [is it] that their father spoke unto them,
and blessed them; every one according to
his blessing he blessed them.
And the
CROWN was promised to
Joseph and his descendants - his two sons (
Ephraim and
Manasseh and their seed - their descendants - The
English and
American Anglo-Saxons):
49:22 Joseph [is] a fruitful bough, [even] a fruitful bough by a well; [whose] branches run over the wall:
49:23 The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot [at him], and hated him:
49:24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty [God] of Jacob; (from
THERE [is] The Shepherd, The [Corner] Stone of Israel: )(
1 Cor. 10:4;
Daniel 2:34-5;
45)
49:25 [Even] by the God of thy father, Who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, Who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:
49:26
The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they (the
blessings)
shall be on the head of Joseph, and
THE CROWN [of Israel] on the head of him that was separate from his brethren (
ch. 37:7-11).
And they, and ONLY they, were given the NAME "Israel" - them ONLY, meaning it (the NAME Israel) was not given to Judah.
Genesis
48:15 And he
blessed Joseph, and said, God, before Whom my fathers
Abraham and
Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my life long unto this day,
48:16
The Angel which redeemed me from all evil,
bless the lads; and let
my name [Israel] be named on them (let
Ephraim and
Manasseh be called
Israel), and the name of my fathers
Abraham and
Isaac; and
let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.
All of that is part of the
Blessing even
before we come to the Mosaic Covenant and it's
additional Blessings (which are
additional to the above and which ARE
conditional on keeping The Law in the Torah).
But, the above, which
includes the promise of being multiplied and spreading (colonizing) to the
West, and to the
East, and to the
North, and to the
South (
in that order) and colonizing is
ALL part of the wholly unconditional promise that
God made
to Abraham about his seed and what they would do.
Jacob/Israel's dream and vision from God, that he experienced in
Bethel, while Jacob slept with his head on the stone that became
the Throne of David (see the official photograph of it - the stone /Throne of David - above):
Umm but we're talking about Israelites. And we were also talking about God using other nations to punish Israel when they don't obey him, which has happened already several times in the past, as the Bible records it. And its not the view of scripture that Israelites would get to colonize the...
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That is a photograph of Jacob's Pillar/Pillow stone from Bethel that the Israelites carried with them on a pole throughout the Bible and that David and then Solomon were crowned on and it (the Stone of Destiny - The Davidic Throne) is located in GREAT BRITAIN (Israel), and not in Palestine (where the Pharez branch of the House of Judah is).
28:12 And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.
28:13 And, behold, the "I AM" stood above it, and said, I [am] the "I AM" God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed;
28:14 And thy seed shall be as "
the dust of the earth", and thou shalt spread abroad to the
West, and to the
East, and to the
North, and to the
South: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
28:15 And, behold, I [am] with thee, and will keep thee in all [places] where thou goest, and will bring thee again into this land; for
I will not leave thee, until I have done [that] which I have spoken to thee of.
Jacob/Israel's Anglo-
Saxon (Isaac'son) descendants
The British spread abroad to the
West (to America), and to the
East (Australasia), and to the
North (Canada), and to the
South (Africa)
in that order, EXACTLY as God promised to Abraham that they would.
There is no other nation on Earth that even comes close to fitting all of this AND who has THE CROWN AND the Throne of David (Jacob's Pillar/Pillow stone) upon which all their monarchs (except QE2) have been sucessively crowned.
ALL of the above is part of the unconditional promise and Blessing to the seed of Abraham.
Genesis 28:15 And, behold, I [am] with thee, and will keep thee in all [places] where thou goest, and will bring thee again into this land; for I will not leave thee,
until I have done [that] which I have spoken to thee of.
That was God's Promise to Abraham and He kept it by causing it to happen and it was
NOT conditional on them keeping The Mosaic Covenant.
The Blessings from the Mosaic Covenant (Law of Moses) are
ADDITIONAL to the above Blessings and
these Promises (in the Mosaic Covenant - the Blessings and the Curses) ARE conditional upon keeping The Covenant.
But the
Blessings that God promised to Abraham, were NOT conditional on keeping The Covenant.
You mean Great Britain, who sponsored the false state of Israel(according to you?), who then put up freemasonry symbols on their "promised land"?
Yes, them.
But Im the one that brought the definition to the table so how can I be ignoring what fair can mean? Why would I bring the definition of it being pale along with the other definition meaning beautiful, if I was trying to ignore it also meaning pale?
Only you could answer that.
And didnt I say that the writers of the dictionary attributed the "fair" in Genesis 12 with being beautiful not having pale skin? And that thats why they put the verse after the second definition of beautiful and not the first definition of pale? Yea Im pretty sure I did.
Ok.
You then pretended to not know how to read a dictionary and said they werent suggesting it was beautiful if Im not mistaken lol.. But while we're back on skin color again for whatever reason (though I thought it was "color blindness" now), why are the Dutch "Israelites" dressing up in black face? You didnt answer that yet:
You mean Swarte Piet? That is part of their Pagan Sinterklaas (Yuletide XMAS) tradition. Swarte Piet being the sidekick for Sinterklaas.
"Zwarte Piet is the companion of Saint Nicholas in the folklore of the Low Countries."
en.wikipedia.org
Who are they paying homage to again?
More like making fun of.
And What holy day in the bible is it that they're celebrating because I cant seem to find it anywhere (or any biblical holiday they follow)...
It's not, it's a pagan Roman tradition that Christ hates:
Revelation 2:6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes (followers of Santa [Ni]-Claus - Yuletide, Easter [Ishtar - a goddess of fertility - eggs a symbol of fertility] etc.),which I also hate.
It doesnt say the Ethiopian can change his skin and the Israelite cant (what would that even mean lol).
What I was asking, is if the Israelites were dark skinned, then why does it say "can the Ethiopian" and not "can the Israelite". The Ethiopians are dark skinned.
Its saying that the Ethiopian and the leopard CANT change their spots so on the same note, those that are accustomed to do evil cant change to do good.
Agreed.
It has nothing to do with the skin color of the Israelites.
It has to do with it as well. If they (the Israelites) themselves were dark skinned, then it does not make sense to do this comparison to the Ethiopians, who are dark skinned.
With the Israelites being fair skinned and ruddy (being able to blush, unless they can't anymore because of being accustomed to doing evil) however, then it does make perfect sense for making the comparison to the Ethiopians, who look different.
Jeremiah
30:5 For thus saith the "I AM"; We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and not of peace.
30:6 Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?
30:7 Alas! for that day [is] great, so that none [is] like it: it [is] even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
Although dark skinned people such as Ethiopians might also look pale when frightened, this (going pale from fright) is something that is much more noticeable when it comes to already fair complexioned people, they go really white and pale, when frightened.
Jeremiah 6:15 Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they
blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time [that] I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the "I AM".
Jeremiah 8:12 Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they
blush: therefore shall they fall among them that fall: in the time of their punishment they shall be cast down, saith the "I AM".
Ezra 9:6 And said, O my God, I am ashamed
and blush to lift up my face to Thee, my God: for our iniquities are increased over [our] head, and our trespass is grown up unto the heavens.
Book of Tephi (king Zedekiah of Jerusalem's daughter)
6:4 Three hours ere set of the sun we came to the strong-built wall,
Then the Prophet of God cried forth, and Elier came at his call,
And knelt on the ground and answered of all that he had prepared,
How his heart had leaped within him, and now as a wand lay bared
And stripped in our sight; and his sons knelt by him on either hand,
That the Man of God might bless them as he set his feet on their land.
But he craved my blessing also, that chieftain (Elier) hoary and grim,
So I set my palm to his forehead, and cried on the Name of Him (
YHWH)
Who had chosen
me out of Jesse,
16:3...
"
On this Stone I am set for ever. In Egypt anointed queen
Of the Hebrews.
My throne in Jesse hath come to these hills so green
For a little space, ere it wander, but wheresoever it roam
Jesse shall seek and find it, until he come to his home
In the
City of David wherein his sons shall rule upon earth,
When the House of the Lord be builded with praise and blessing and mirth."
17:1 Now soon my heart contracted, for
a damsel stately and fair,
Broad-browed, full-eyed, and gracious beneath the crown of her hair,
Large-limbed and nobly shapen, tall to a chieftain's height,
Drew from the throngs before us, and now with a queenly right
Took my bridegroom's head in her palms and kissed him upon the lips.
Whilst cold went through me which passed from heart unto finger tips;
But my husband smiled, and said, "My queen, yet thy servant's bride,
Behold the chief of thine handmaids, my sister Maistiv, whose pride
Is Dan, Achaia and Eriu, who in her give fealty to thee
Of the silver
stem of Jesse, the golden flower of his tree (the Cedar)."
Thus shamed I my doubt
with blushes,
stem of Jesse (the line of David)
