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The situation in and in relation to Syria, and in particular the actions by the Government of Turkey to conduct a military offensive into northeast Syria, undermines the campaign to defeat the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, endangers civilians, and further threatens to undermine the peace, security, and stability in the region, and continues to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States. -Biden
 
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China accuses Turkey of ‘illegally invading Syria’ at UN meeting

3WW will start in Turkey. Very soon. Then you will all be in this thread but not me.
We've been waiting for it to start there since that assassination attempt some years ago
 
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2016 coup attempt, we have long suspected turkey would be the hot front breaking point of ww3 even tho ww3 is now on the cold front with the bio weapon known as sarscov19
July 15 false flag operation. for Erdoğan to win the presidential system referendum, and have dictatorial powers.

just like:
 
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The Turkish Democracy Project

Dark Money Network Pushes Pro-UAE/Saudi Policies From New York


November 26, 2021
Written by
Eli Clifton C
o-authored by Murtaza Hussain

The Turkish Democracy Project, a political advocacy group launched this summer with the stated goal of promoting democracy in Turkey, has the surprising characteristic of having no Turkish members on its leadership board. In a press release announcing its creation the organization said that it was “committed to encouraging Turkey to adopt more democratic policies.”
The two Turkish people publicly involved with the project — former Turkish politician Aykan Erdemir and academic Suleyman Ozeren — were removed from its website’s list of advisory council members not long after its launch.

Despite having no actual Turks publicly affiliated with the group, the Turkish Democracy Project boasts a roster heavy with hawkish former U.S. public officials and diplomats with close ties to Israel and the Gulf Arab states, including former Bush administration counterterrorism official Frances Townsend, former U.S. Sen. Joseph Lieberman, and President Donald Trump’s famously aggressive former national security adviser John Bolton. “It’s time to sound the alarm on Turkey,” Bolton, best known for his advocacy of U.S. confrontation with Iran, said on Twitter at the time of the Turkey Democracy Project’s launch.

Under its heavy-handed ruling AK Party, democracy in Turkey has faced serious setbacks in recent years, but what the Turkish Democracy Project specifically does to address that problem is unclear. The organization does, however, have links to a network of well-funded dark money groups promoting U.S. foreign policy positions in the Middle East that dovetail with Saudi, Emirati and Israeli security interests.

At the center of it all is Mark Wallace, a former George W. Bush administration ambassador to the United Nations. Wallace is presently the head not just of the Turkish Democracy Project, but also the anti-Iran organization United Against Nuclear Iran, or UANI; the counterterrorism advocacy group Counter Extremism Project, or CEP; and even an arts-based non-profit focused on human rights in Iran called PaykanArtCar. Eight out of eleven of the Turkish Democracy Project’s senior leadership and advisory board members hold positions with UANI, CEP, or both.

UANI and CEP have had questions raised about their aims and sources of funding, including whether they receive financial support from foreign governments and political figures. The Turkish Democracy Project did not respond to a request for comment about its own funding and sources of support.

Pressure group network
The Turkish Democracy Project has yet to publicly file information about its funding. But the closely linked organizations UANI and CEP both fall under an umbrella organization known as Counter Extremism Project United. While never disclosing any of its funding sources, this network of organizations brought in over $101 million between 2009 and 2019, according to a review of tax filings, making it one of the biggest dark-money U.S. foreign policy pressure networks in operation today.

A July 2021 article on the corporate and government news site Intelligence Online about the creation of the Turkish Democracy Project noted Wallace’s extensive ties with Thomas Kaplan, a billionaire investor who is known to be a funder and vocal supporter of Wallace’s Iran-related advocacy groups.

Kaplan also employs Wallace as a senior adviser at his Electrum Group, a firm that invests in “public equities in the metals and mining sector” — commodities that both Kaplan and Wallace have marketed to investors as retaining or appreciating in value if there is political instability in the Middle East.

The article in Intelligence Online also referred to Kaplan’s extensive ties to Gulf Arab royals, something he has referred to enthusiastically in past public appearances. In particular, Kaplan maintains extensive business and philanthropic ties to the United Arab Emirates.

Efforts to examine the finances behind the web of Kaplan-linked foreign policy pressure groups have found an unusual obstacle: the U.S. government, which quashed a 2013 lawsuit against Kaplan and UANI. The suit claimed that Kaplan and UANI were financed by undisclosed foreign interests. The government, in an unusual invocation of state secrets as a third-party intervenor in a civil suit, cryptically claimed that permitting the case to move forward would jeopardize U.S. national security.

Despite the availability of public filings providing total figures about the funding of this network of Wallace-led organizations, specific information about donors remains opaque. There have been periodic clues, however, pointing to a generous role for Kaplan in bankrolling these activities. UANI donor rolls published in 2015 on the investigative news site LobeLog revealed that trusts controlled by Kaplan contributed $843,000 to UANI in 2013, accounting for roughly half of the organization’s revenue that year.

Funding from abroad
In 2015, Wallace filed a “truth in testimony” disclosure with the House Foreign Affairs Committee before serving as a witness in his capacity as head of the Counter Extremism Project. Wallace wrote: “We have only received to date individual and private contributions. CEP has received no monies from foreign governments. We have discussed funding of CEP with both the U.S. government (Dept. of State) and various foreign governments in the future.”

A trove of leaked emails released several years ago — believed to be from the account of UAE Ambassador to the U.S. Yousef al Otaiba — appeared to show the network’s pursuit of foreign funding, particularly from the UAE and Saudi Arabia. An email from Wallace to Otaiba from September 3, 2014, referenced “cost estimates” for an upcoming “forum,” though it was unclear the event being referenced was a UANI event or the launch of CEP, which took place later that month.

Another leaked email exchange from January 2015 mentioned UAE support for CEP, with Frances Townsend soliciting Otaiba’s assistance in arranging meetings with Mohammed bin Zayed bin Sultan Al-Nahyan, the crown prince of Abu Dhabi. Townsend concluded her email by thanking Otaiba for his “support of the CEP effort!”

Again in August 2016, former Republican Sen. Norm Coleman, now a Saudi lobbyist, wrote to Otaiba at the direction of Saudi Foreign Minister Adel bin Ahmed Al-Jubeir to provide CEP’s tax status. As Coleman wrote to the UAE ambassador: “Foreign Minister Al Jubeir recommended that I follow up with you on the attached matter. The Counter Extremism Project is a 501c4. Let me know if you have any questions.”
If CEP and UANI receive foreign funding, their activities may require registration under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, or FARA, a law requiring registration for entities within the United States engaging in “political activities.

None of the groups have registered under FARA, though, despite the suggestions, no hard evidence has emerged of foreign funding.
“These groups all engage in activities that would qualify under FARA’s definition of political activities,” Ben Freeman, director of the Foreign Influence Transparency Initiative at the Center for International Policy, said of UANI, CEP, and the Turkish Democracy Project. “They have very explicit aims related to U.S. foreign policy and they are actively trying to influence sections of the public — and in some cases policymakers themselves — towards these policy objectives.”

“You can do all these types of work if you’re a U.S. citizen and funded by U.S. citizens, but FARA comes into play if you’re funded or taking actions at the behest of a foreign government or entity,” Freeman added.

Opposition and aligned interests
The launch of the Turkish Democracy Project this summer predictably infuriated pro-government media in Turkey, which have characterized the organization as part of a plot by an array of the country’s enemies to undermine its stability.

Over the past decade, Turkey has been locked in an internal struggle between supporters of the ruling AK Party and the Gülen Movement, a banned political network that Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan accuses of masterminding a 2016 coup attempt. Turkey also has had hostile ties in recent years with Gulf Arab nations like the UAE and Saudi Arabia, as well as Israel.

For their part, Wallace and Kaplan remain at the center of a growing network of well-funded organizations whose foreign policy objectives coincide with the stated security interests of governments in Abu Dhabi and Tel Aviv. Despite the high-minded words contained in its mission statement, observers said that the launch of the Turkish Democracy Project seems to be more about furthering the interests of Turkey’s regional rivals than defending liberal democracy.

Sarah Leah Whitson, the executive director of Democracy for the Arab World Now, also known as DAWN, a Middle East-focused, Washington-based think tank created in the aftermath of the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, said that the background of those behind the organization points to a political purpose rather than a humanitarian one.

“To target a flawed democracy in the Middle East,” Whitson said, “while its board members defend and promote the absolute monarchies of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, the apartheid state of Israel, and the dictatorship in Egypt suggests that this group’s focus is political rather than based on values.”

This article was co-published with The Intercept.


There is nothing to explain this long. Bring democracy = bring soldiers, bombs, death. They will enter Turkey very soon.
 

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1:15.

Erdogan wins 50.01% of the vote & people aren't happy


paging @thursdayafternoon we need the lowdown on this.
 

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1:15.

Erdogan wins 50.01% of the vote & people aren't happy


paging @thursdayafternoon we need the lowdown on this.

I don't think he got 50%? While it seems that's needed or they will have to re-vote next week.

Here's a clip from PressTV about 2 hours ago. But most middle eastern news seems to be echoing the same.





Edit: They just updated it 5 minutes ago and the results are pretty much the same.

 

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No matter the outcome whether Brazil, Turkey, the US, etc. the controllers have us divided exactly 49.9% to 50.1%, just the way they like it. Elections are disputed, there's no consensus and nothing that serves working class people gets accomplished.
 

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No matter the outcome whether Brazil, Turkey, the US, etc. the controllers have us divided exactly 49.9% to 50.1%, just the way they like it. Elections are disputed, there's no consensus and nothing that serves working class people gets accomplished.
Noticed that too did ya? That's just about the outcome of every American election. They want people to think they're "neck and neck" so if everyone you personally know is for team A then you're not expecting team B to win 90-10. Outcomes are always close. Like a % or two.

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In America at least its obvious the elections are rigged and its not worth debating. Like Biden getting 84 million votes ( Americas most popular president ever ) only to have a few dozen people at his inauguration. Trump had DC full with 100's of 1000's in 2016 for his inauguration.



In Turkeys case, Erdogan seems to be the lesser of 2 evils. Kemal is pretty much an atheist in a Muslim country while Erdogan is a corrupt Muslim in a Muslim country.

... This is what i hear anyway, being American I'm on the outside looking in.
 
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1:15.

Erdogan wins 50.01% of the vote & people aren't happy


paging @thursdayafternoon we need the lowdown on this.
Two-round system. The second is on May 28. Result: A very easy Erdoğan victory. He could have won in the first round by stealing just a few votes. But he extended the victory over time to reduce the anger and depression of the opponents. I don't believe that the people determine the election results.

And it doesn't matter. The equation is simple:
Erdoğan: We have to lockdown because globalists want it.
His rival, the vice-presidential candidate Ekrem İmamoğlu: It's not enough, we have to lock them in their mouse holes and starve them. Because globalists should love me more.


All sons of bitches.
 
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And it doesn't matter. The equation is simple:
Erdoğan: We have to lockdown because globalists want it.
His rival, the vice-presidential candidate Ekrem İmamoğlu: It's not enough, we have to shut people down like rats and starve them. Because globalists should love me more.
This is the reality of a democracy. 2 wolves and a lamb deciding whats for dinner.

Truth is its not even 2 wolves. It is 2 billionaires deciding how to increase there profits. Then realizing the best way to get rich is to buy off the "shepherd" of the sheep so they can direct the flock wherever they please.


Look at the "democracy"in US for example. Biden literally has a 20% support rate and is actually running for potus next year. Why? Because those in DC know its not the people who decide.

Even though 4 out of 5 Americans hate this man, he is running again because he knows he has a chance to win 2024.

Biden or Trump? Pick your poison.
 
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The voter turnout in the 2018 and 2023 elections look exactly the same (%86.24 and %86.30). All candidates agreed on the tortures of mask-distance-mandatory vaccination, unemployment and house arrests. I thought this would reduce the turnout a bit. The public who understands what has been going on in the last few years seems to be exactly zero.
 
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