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You did not come in discussing anything here, you took a shot with a hat joke. Then you go into a spill. The question is why couldn't you just do that from the start? If I counted the "you's," in all your accusatory posts, there would be thousands. And with all the MSM links offered up? Seriously? You never really read what I say or have said in the past.

You go into your purpose? This is a discussion forum but you seem to think your take is more important than others. Honestly, all I see from you is hate at times be it for Trump, me or anyone else who dares converse with you that is not like minded. So, this new victim play is just silly. Play within the rules and quit being so caught up with me. If you hate me as you seem to and are on the brink of a ban because of your inability to keep things rational, then maybe just go the other way or ignore.

And for the 1000th time, I come here tickled (use it again) that people who believe MSM is a toy that they harp on Trump 24/7 thinking he is the sole problem.

How woke is the person who keeps doing that while the world crumbles in so many areas around them?

You, sir, have fallen hook, line and sinker for the distraction or the current US president. And how contradiction heavy it is to see someone calling out MSM links while so often using them to talk about Trump.

You know, we could agree to disagree. That is what most humans do, but that has never really worked with you, has it?

I like Trump for slowing the PC role, not a lot more. But that is a big thing for many of us who want to continue to recognize some normality in the world.

Some here, act like Trump is in control. He is one man in a position with all the worlds crooked ways before him still in place. He did not create the system.

Your quote - The MSM is just a propaganda machine to drive forward these Zionist plans. They lie, they manipulate they construct stories simply to further hidden agendas.

Yet you link MSM and have the same talking points all up and down this thread. I was harping on MSM far before you were in this place. Pot. Kettle. Black. That is known as a contradiction.
With all due respect, you instigated the interaction by quoting Awoken’s post re: “MAGA”. And I’m sure he can speak for himself, but he’s also stated numerous times that Trump is the front man for what goes on In the White House.

In all honesty, defending Trump in every post doesn’t really help your stance, as some are here to discuss the methodologies and machinations behind conspiracies.

Just sayin’.
 





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If you cannot see that post was directed at me and was subtle shot from past issues then I am not sure what I can say. So who instigated? It is called trolling. There were only similar minded people in the convo other than me at the time. Who was the post talking about directly behind the only person who has said until they are blue in the face that they are not a major Trump supporter but that he is not the core of all the worlds ill's? Show me all these discussions of machinations in this particular thread. My comments have been on those made in this thread and not discussions elsewhere or some which have been held in the past.
 





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@The Zone All I hear coming.out of you is Trump isn't the bad guy and we shouldn't all be worrying about Trump.....with final PINAC target (Iran) now firmly in the crosshairs we are just one false flag away from more death and destruction.....so who the fuck SHOULD we be worrying about then?.... just give me some names!
 





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@The Zone All I hear coming.out of you is Trump isn't the bad guy and we shouldn't all be worrying about Trump.....with final PINAC target (Iran) now firmly in the crosshairs we are just one false flag away from more death and destruction.....so who the fuck SHOULD we be worrying about then?.... just give me some names!
One thing at a time.

First, I can tell you do not understand the military strategy and saber rattling. Trump has yet to get the US in a war and has pulled out of one after allowing troops to get their job done and leave. Not saying it was right to be there in the first place, but he inherited all we see now. It is a show of force not necessarily intended to go to war.

Second, let us discuss things that actually happen and not speculation. Most of the stuff people throw at Trump in this thread are things that have yet to happen, like a war with Iran. Bottom line is it has not happened yet.

Third, you want names? How about the powers that be as a group or whole instead of individuals. Do you really think individuals have the power you seem to give them like Trump? This has been my point the whole time.

Go ahead and point to Trump or any other individual if that is your thing, but understand that the president of the US has to go through channels to start a war. IOW, he does not have the final say.

Lastly, I still think Trump crept in with his win. That is my opinion. Now, people are trying to manipulate him. Who saw Trump coming.

if Trump gets weird in my book or view, I will call him out. If I see certain things happening I will give him no break.

So, for me, I want to blame those who are to blame -- the puppeteers.
 





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First, I can tell you do not understand the military strategy and saber rattling.
First, I can tell you have no understanding of what I understand

Trump has yet to get the US in a war and has pulled out of one after allowing troops to get their job done and leave. Not saying it was right to be there in the first place,
So Trump rattles his sabre, a few choice tweets, the opposition then back down and comply....troops then come home?..... is this how you understand things to be?

but he inherited all we see now
.....ohhh I see, it was Obama's fault. Trumps the good guy....Obama' bad guy....got it now...thanks.

It is a show of force not necessarily intended to go to war.
In your expert opinion what would the Trump puppeteers do in the event other countries started showing their force also?

Second, let us discuss things that actually happen and not speculation. Most of the stuff people throw at Trump in this thread are things that have yet to happen, like a war with Iran. Bottom line is it has not happened yet.
So ignore the wet paint sign, the only way to find out is to touch the paint. If you get a painty finger blame the sign writer..... Gee thanks I'm learning lots here.


Third, you want names? How about the powers that be as a group or whole instead of individuals.
So you don't have any names?.... just the powers that be?....thanks for clearing that up.

Go ahead and point to Trump or any other individual if that is your thing, but understand that the president of the US has to go through channels to start a war. IOW, he does not have the final say.
He doesn't have any say. That's modern day politics for you....puppets. Are you saying Trump is a puppet to trust?....is he a trustable puppet?

Lastly, I still think Trump crept in with his win. That is my opinion. Now, people are trying to manipulate him. Who saw Trump coming.
....error nobody I guess...


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if Trump gets weird in my book or view, I will call him out. If I see certain things happening I will give him no break
Can you define? "Gets weird".....is it a political term?


So, for me, I want to blame those who are to blame -- the puppeteers
Two names spring to mind immediately....

Thanks for the heads up man!
 





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You to constantly challenge me to silly debates where you ALWAYS attribute falsehoods to the situation and act as if you know what makes me tick, where I have been, what I have seen, etc. So, for the last time, please move on. This is where you say something as in the past like you cannot argue or whatever immature insult and I tell you I have far more important things to deal with in life than yourself.

Lastly, Obama had the US in wars his entire 8 years. Trump? Others are trying their best to bend him to their will after he slips into their plans. You have no idea who you are talking to in forums or their knowledge, yet you seem to think you have all the answers, therefore an excruciating exercise takes place when anyone is in your crosshairs.

You have never displayed the ability to agree to disagree and move on, nor can you seemingly get over me. It is always just a matter of time before you fall right back to the same old thing and I for one am tired of the same old thing with you.

Other posters and moderation has all but told you to move along and ignore me, yet you just cannot seem to do so. So, since we know where this leads, how about taking the high road for once and obsess over someone else. I have avoided interactions with you for a reason in that it is a turn-off, a waste of time and fruitless.
 





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Pompeo believes more in The Rapture than he does in democracy and another false flag looks imminent....what could possibly go wrong?

Let us just remind ourselves how all of this is supposed to play out.


Patrick Clawson's profile

AIPAC and WINEP

Mr. Clawson is right when he says: And it’s very hard for me to see how the United States … uh … [the] president can get us to war with Iran.....it would be best if somebody else started the war."

So this "somebody else", in starting the war would be confident enough to know that the US would automatically be drawn in. Since all of this began because of the Iran deal, its been pro-Israel, (of which Mr Clawson belongs) anti-Iran think tanks that have been pushing this. I read somewhere that the White House has outsourced Iran policy to FDD (Foundation for Defence of Democracies).

"Vaknin-Gil was discussing his activities with Tony Kleinfeld, an undercover investigative reporter who was secretly recording and filming his encounters with various members of the Israel Lobby as well as of the Israeli government.Vaknin-Gil provided explicit confirmation that the FDD works directly with the Israeli government, making it an Israeli agent by the definition of FARA."
https://www.globalresearch.ca/registering-israels-useful-idiots/5660400

Why Do Mainstream Reporters Take FDD’s Mark Dubowitz’s Iran Analysis Seriously?

So, Israel attacking itself and blaming Iran/false flag would be a game-changer and since Trump is pro-Israel, how long would he hesitate if that happened?
 





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https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/23/...-doctors/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

“Children's fingers crushed by cell doors. A boy who'd lost nearly a third of his body weight in a matter of days. Incorrect vaccine doses and missed diagnoses.”

Trump supporters and conspiracy theorists at large care more about imaginary children than real ones. I wish this would get a fraction of the attention as Pizzagate.
 





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Trump’s Choice Of Bolton Satisfies His Biggest Donor

The donor that financed the embassy move and is pro-Israel

Sheldon Adelson: the casino mogul driving Trump's Middle East policy
The Las Vegas billionaire gave Republicans $82m for the 2016 elections and his views, notably staunch support for Netanyahu’s Israel, are now the official US line
Just going back to the Vegas shooting event, the most pertinent question to ask is cui bono? A very interesting thread here on the Ron Paul forums answers that question I think

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...n-Donald-Trump-and-Metal-detectors&styleid=37

The conflict of interests between Trump and Adelson is glaringly obvious.
 





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“If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so,” Mueller said Wednesday. “We did not, however, make a determination as to whether the president did commit a crime.”

It’s a striking statement — and a reiteration of what he wrote in the report the Justice Department released nearly in full last month. For weeks, Republican lawmakers and Barr have repeatedly said the report showed no collusion and no obstruction. Mueller is making a point to say that’s not necessarily the case and that he can’t make the call — because of Department of Justice policy.

https://www.vox.com/2019/5/29/18644249/robert-mueller-statement-trump-special-counsel-obstruction
 





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I think Trump is deep state little d...
I’m a small government conservative anti abortion, anti ssm, anti war, anti deep state. Mueller, Brennen, Obama/Clinton scare the crap out of me. They are knee deep into Eyes Wide Shut pedo crap. Trump is a big mouth, who said Epstein likes em young. They send him home early before the real debauchary begins.....