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With that scandalous hair arrangement and his ridiculous umpa lumps fake tan he has lied to you twice before he opens his mouth.

Is unashamed vanity a good quality for a president?
 





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A r*pe victim not being believed doesn't mean every person making an accusation is magically telling the truth. One does not negate the other. Innocent until proven guilty - that's how it works in this country.

No amount of spinning is going to erase Blasey Ford's lies and lack of evidence. The facts of this case are very public.



How did his prior behavior as a teenager make him deserving to go through hell during the hearings? How did you come to the judgment and conclusion that he deserved it?
I’m not the one spinning... lol. r*pe victims not being believed is par for the course. And ford isn’t a r*pe victim, she’s a sexual assault victim which is even more tenuous.

Innocent until proven guilty? This wasn’t a criminal investigation it was a job interview.. an interview for the highest court on earth. Any job of that kind requires an investigation into the prospects character to which fords story is extremely relevant and the burden of proof is different then a court of law. And yes, if he sexually assaulted someone EVEN AS A TEENAGER it is relevant and his own damn fault.

The character of someone in such a powerful position deserves to be fully investigated, whether or not it deserved to be on tv is another question and unfortunately a pitfall of modern society.
 





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And yes, if he sexually assaulted someone EVEN AS A TEENAGER it is relevant and his own damn fault.

You said this in the post before the above...

They went through hell because of his own prior behavior. That is his own fault.
... to which I asked you: "How did his prior behavior as a teenager make him deserving to go through hell during the hearings? How did you come to the judgment and conclusion that he deserved it?"

But now you're adding 'if'??? You were totally fine with condemning the man just one post earlier, as if you had absolute evidence he was guilty and deserved being put through hell. What changed? Why did you add 'IF he sexually assaulted someone' to your last post?
 





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You said this in the post before the above...



... to which I asked you: "How did his prior behavior as a teenager make him deserving to go through hell during the hearings? How did you come to the judgment and conclusion that he deserved it?"

But now you're adding 'if'??? You were totally fine with condemning the man just one post earlier, as if you had absolute evidence he was guilty and deserved being put through hell. What changed? Why did you add 'IF he sexually assaulted someone' to your last post?
You made his age at the time of the allegations an issue, that was my contention.. not everyone sits here and formulates every word they type so carefully, sorry.

I believe he assaulted her. I believe his conduct going back to the day he was born is open to examination considering the position he was applying for and has since obtained. “Put through hell” appears to be a relative concept...
 





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I believe his conduct going back to the day he was born is open to examination considering the position he was applying for and has since obtained..
Wow. That is straight up insanity. Did you demand this of any other candidate? No? How do you know what any of them did as toddlers until there's an investigation. Did you just assume they were all innocent babies and children until Kavanaugh came along?
 





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Wow. That is straight up insanity. Did you demand this of any other candidate? No? How do you know what any of them did as toddlers until there's an investigation. Did you just assume they were all innocent babies and children until Kavanaugh came along?
I would demand it of ANY candidate - of any party - running for such a powerful position. You should too. There’s nothing insane about that.

This is a long standing belief that has nothing specifically to do with kavanaugh.

What you seem to fail to realize is that when you apply for many federal jobs it almost always comes with an investigation (usually by the fbi) into your entire life from birth forward with interviews of family friends neighbors teachers etc.

I wouldn’t think a lesser standard for a higher position makes sense.
 





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Wow. That is straight up insanity. Did you demand this of any other candidate? No? How do you know what any of them did as toddlers until there's an investigation. Did you just assume they were all innocent babies and children until Kavanaugh came along?
Except he wasn't a candidate. He was a nominee, to one of the most powerful positions in the world, one that members often hold until the very end of their lives. So yes, when people present themselves as options for powerful, political positions their history from 18 on is certainly up for public scrutiny and any behavior before that which would be relevant to the individual would also be fair game, within reason.

However, Kavanaugh is a proven liar and perjurer throughout his career so the notion that he is somehow more trustworthy than his accuser, or anyone for that matter, is ridiculous.
 





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Sessions fired right after the midterms...

https://globalnews.ca/news/4640733/donald-trump-jeff-sessions-replaced/

And is being replaced by a known critic of Mueller's investigation?

And we are supposed to think, according to Trumpsters, that there is nothing to this investigation and it's all a "witch hunt"?

I think Trump is scared shitless of what the dems might uncover when or if they start investigating the heck out of him. Even if the repubs control the senate, and impeachment is therefore improbable, some serious dirt might be exposed and the population will witness it all.
 





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Sessions fired right after the midterms...

https://globalnews.ca/news/4640733/donald-trump-jeff-sessions-replaced/

And is being replaced by a known critic of Mueller's investigation?

And we are supposed to think, according to Trumpsters, that there is nothing to this investigation and it's all a "witch hunt"?

I think Trump is scared shitless of what the dems might uncover when or if they start investigating the heck out of him. Even if the repubs control the senate, and impeachment is therefore improbable, some serious dirt might be exposed and the population will witness it all.
The Dems found nothing after years of investigation. There is no evidence. Just like Ford had no evidence and an investigation turned up nothing.

I can't understand Trump haters - they just dislike him as a person and try to find anything they can to attack him. It seems to matter not the good his administration does, they're just blinded by their anger towards him. The media has completely influenced them. The media! Owned and operated by a select few in power. The elite!
 





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The Dems found nothing after years of investigation. There is no evidence. Just like Ford had no evidence and an investigation turned up nothing.

I can't understand Trump haters - they just dislike him as a person and try to find anything they can to attack him. It seems to matter not the good his administration does, they're just blinded by their anger towards him. The media has completely influenced them. The media! Owned and operated by a select few in power. The elite!
Not true. Mueller's probe is about a year and a half old and has already indicted 32 people. Also he cannot reveal what he has found until his investigation is over. Not exactly rocket science to understand.
 





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What does rocket science have to do with this?

So Mueller has indicted people - ok, big deal. He can indicte folks till the cows come home and accomplish jack because that's what he's good at - obstruction.

Speaking of Mueller - you're aware he's a Bush appointee yes? And was involved in obstruction of the 9/11 commission?

He's 100% corrupt
 





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You lefties in here are literally bottom feeding scum. I have no idea why vigilant citizen is infected with you. Literally this site is about defending life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. You would defend an act to destroy a man based on a completely unfounded and unsubstantiated allegation from 30+ years ago. I try to be courteous with people but when you try to destroy the basic fundamental principles of due process and the presumption of innocence, I must call you what are: filth and scum.

Kavanaugh was investigated by the FBI numerous times. Absolutely zero corroboration for any of her allegations. In fact every person she named refuted her claims. If you don't like Kavanaugh's positions or judicial philosophy that is fine, it is your prerogative. But trying to destroy a man's reputation without a single shred of evidence is beyond disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
 





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You lefties in here are literally bottom feeding scum. I have no idea why vigilant citizen is infected with you. Literally this site is about defending life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. You would defend an act to destroy a man based on a completely unfounded and unsubstantiated allegation from 30+ years ago. I try to be courteous with people but when you try to destroy the basic fundamental principles of due process and the presumption of innocence, I must call you what are: filth and scum.

Kavanaugh was investigated by the FBI numerous times. Absolutely zero corroboration for any of her allegations. In fact every person she named refuted her claims. If you don't like Kavanaugh's positions or judicial philosophy that is fine, it is your prerogative. But trying to destroy a man's reputation without a single shred of evidence is beyond disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Oh look another idiot who sees leftists everywhere. I could say the same about you Trumpster Dumpsters, VC is literally infested by your kind.
 





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They're all corrupt. Trump is just way more corrupt than the others.
I agree and I’m anti-political, nor am I right, left, or upside down. I’ve never have I regeisterd to vote. I don’t touch it with a ten foot pole. I have learned my lesson to stay away from politics. Politics is definitely not my forte. Trump is a sick and disgusting p***phile. He is war mongerer and I hope he does gets voted out. No I’m not American. I think Trump was put there to bring about war because war makes the elite a lot of money and Trump is going to get us all nuked if he doesn’t shut his big mouth. Living off the grid is sounding good more & more everyday.
 





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I agree and I’m anti-political, nor am I right, left, or upside down. I’ve never have I regeisterd to vote. I don’t touch it with a ten foot pole. I have learned my lesson to stay away from politics. Politics is definitely not my forte. Trump is a sick and disgusting p***phile. He is war mongerer and I hope he does gets voted out. No I’m not American. I think Trump was put there to bring about war because war makes the elite a lot of money and Trump is going to get us all nuked if he doesn’t shut his big mouth. Living off the grid is sounding good more & more everyday.
Please explain how he's a "war monger"
 





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The Dems found nothing after years of investigation. There is no evidence. Just like Ford had no evidence and an investigation turned up nothing.

I can't understand Trump haters - they just dislike him as a person and try to find anything they can to attack him. It seems to matter not the good his administration does, they're just blinded by their anger towards him. The media has completely influenced them. The media! Owned and operated by a select few in power. The elite!
It was obvious from the jump, this Russiagate production and the various investigations and scandals revolving around Trump have been allowed to proceed thus far because they have provided useful public theater for tptb. Almost every charge levied against Trump regarding both public and private activity (from political/business corruption to sexual indiscretions and assault) are charges that he shares with both Bill and Hillary Clinton. Point blank, did anyone here truly believe that he was ever going to be in serious legal jeopardy over activity that BOTH Clintons are also engaged in, at even deeper levels than Trump himself?

Trump is as dirty as they come but if you would like to defend him in a rational discussion, you could simply stop derailing the convo in the other Trump thread where you are changing the subject all over the place in order to NOT have to address the substance of the dialog there.......
 





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Please explain how he's a "war monger"
If you don’t know, you don’t know. You’ll just be one of the ones to not see it coming or believe it. Trump is turning everyone against him and the US. There are countries/nations that no linger want to deal with petrodollar and are creating their own currency that will end up destroying the petrodollar and the economy. Also just by his absurd choices like unnecessary sanctions just because?. If you cannot see the nations turning against Trump and America, you should know. If you don’t, you don’t. Doesn’t bother me none. It’s his big mouth that is doing himself in.
 





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