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Why does it seem like a 3rd of the posts anywhere on this forum are posts of Zone fighting with someone? lol anyway


Back to the topic

Here is Trump handing the US Economy even more over to the Arms Dealers ( Military Industrial Complex) something that once upon a time would have mattered to conspiracy folks before it became all about white identity politics and who can be the most anti-PC. This is decidedly not an MSM source either

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-pentagons-cunning-plot-to-militarize-the-economy/
That wasn't me, that was Karlysymon.
Ok, that was my mistake and I apologize to you and KS. The substance of what I posted is rock solid, but it was my mistake to confuse you and KS's posts. I am at fault there for certain.
 





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The Kavanagh accusations only reinforce the idea of equating politics to the game of chess. That whole thing is what you call a poison piece. You know? Like someone pushing a knight in a vulnerable position. Do you try to take the piece or not? It's not always so simple. Well, the Democrats went after that poison piece pretty hard.

If you aren't familiar with chess this is a pretty basic theory. Where you position your forces is crucial. Winning or losing can come down to one piece being in the wrong place. Plus all this game theory is important when talking about AI and the nature of our reality. That's why I'm not afraid of AI or killer robots.

The world is already a form of simulated reality. Light literally behaves differently depending on one thing. Observation. Just like how a video game is programmed to only show the player what they need to see. Therefore all life and matter exist as a potentiality. Thus any Robot or AI will follow the same universal rule.

What I'm saying is we can remove the killer robots potentiality by simple observation. Like pulling the plug out of an electrical socket. So the real problem to me is people not thinking this way. Because we are fast approaching a new world, or era if you will. And the same old fear-based tactics aren't what's propelling us forward.
 





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That Trumps wife also sports a comb-over hairdo?
How did you find out??

But if you search a bit, you will find that much has been speculated about whether the bodyguard to the right completely was wearing a fake right hand.

The guy in this video, I don't know if he is crazy or a genius, but claims this was a subliminal sign of something deeper.

 





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How did you find out??

But if you search a bit, you will find that much has been speculated about whether the bodyguard to the right completely was wearing a fake right hand.

The guy in this video, I don't know if he is crazy or a genius, but claims this was a subliminal sign of something deeper.


Red Right Hand?
 





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That wasn’t one of the accusers publicly known. The accusation wasn’t made public because it wasn’t credible, the other ones were.
We've been told [screamed at, actually] by the faux-hysterical left that we need to #BelieveAllWomen no matter what. They can't walk it back now just because it's no longer convenient to their cause and backfiring.

None of the accusations were credible. If they were, the Dems and the 'victims' would still be pursuing action and speaking out against Kavanaugh. Where did the victims suddenly go? Where did their staunchest supporters go, who claimed the survivors absolutely needed to be believed and were so credible? Why isn't the MSM following up on this story? Why the hypocrisy of hushing things up and smearing the victims when Dems get accused of r*pe?

They had no case. The MSM knew it, the Dems knew it, and people with brains and common sense saw right through it. False accusations deserve serious jail time. How about we all #BelieveEvidence in the future.
 





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How much evidence of a r*pe do you think there is? Basically by saying that you are saying that only victims of violent stranger rapes are allowed to be victims and the MILLIONS of women who are victims of other forms of r*pe should just suck it up and get over it.

Believing women doesn’t mean throwing common sense out the window and no one ever suggested it did.

The main accusation against kavanaugh was in fact credible. If you reject this that is on you, but I get the feeling you’d reject any r*pe victims claims that didn’t have video proof and even then might try to argue it was doctored.
 





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A lot of people can't get around the fact that some victims wait 10, 20 or even 30 years before bringing allegations forward. Now I personally can understand their apprehension. Logically speaking that shouldn't hurt their credibility anyway. But you will find a lot of people will throw logic out of the window. You know? Pretty sure there isn't a delayed reaction fallacy. You can wait as long as you want to report a crime and it isn't illogical. It's just going to be harder to investigate and prove.

I would argue the real issue there is personal bias. That's what all cases seem to come down to though. The best lawyers know that the majority of jurors are going to go with their personal bias. And it doesn't matter if it's the court of public opinion or legit court. Neither side of any case actually wants impartiality.

This is all a real problem if you want justice. For that reason, I think more victims need to come forward. Because it's the only way to get any traction in the court system. I mean do you all know why drug convictions have such serious penalties? It's because everyone and their brother was getting caught with the stuff.

In a weird way, we are all equal under the law. In that, we are all just trying not to get chewed up and spit out by the system. It's the only real civic duty anyone really has anymore. But anyway if Criminal Justice reform was up to me. I would flood the court system. Everyone needs to be convinced to stop pleading guilty. Force them into trials and the system will collapse.
 





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A lot of people can't get around the fact that some victims wait 10, 20 or even 30 years before bringing allegations forward. Now I personally can understand their apprehension. Logically speaking that shouldn't hurt their credibility anyway. But you will find a lot of people will throw logic out of the window. You know? Pretty sure there isn't a delayed reaction fallacy. You can wait as long as you want to report a crime and it isn't illogical. It's just going to be harder to investigate and prove.

I would argue the real issue there is personal bias. That's what all cases seem to come down to though. The best lawyers know that the majority of jurors are going to go with their personal bias. And it doesn't matter if it's the court of public opinion or legit court. Neither side of any case actually wants impartiality.

This is all a real problem if you want justice. For that reason, I think more victims need to come forward. Because it's the only way to get any traction in the court system. I mean do you all know why drug convictions have such serious penalties? It's because everyone and their brother was getting caught with the stuff.

In a weird way, we are all equal under the law. In that, we are all just trying not to get chewed up and spit out by the system. It's the only real civic duty anyone really has anymore. But anyway if Criminal Justice reform was up to me. I would flood the court system. Everyone needs to be convinced to stop pleading guilty. Force them into trials and the system will collapse.
I agree but it’s easier said then done... the amount of time they hold over your head if you don’t plea is crazy and if you know your guilty it’s a hard call to make
 





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Basically by saying that you are saying that only victims of violent stranger rapes are allowed to be victims and the MILLIONS of women who are victims of other forms of r*pe should just suck it up and get over it...If you reject this that is on you, but I get the feeling you’d reject any r*pe victims claims that didn’t have video proof and even then might try to argue it was doctored.
No, I didn't say or even imply that, and I'm not taking the bait of this ridiculous distraction. The holes in Blasey Ford's testimony are very well known and the BLATANT disgusting hypocrisy of the leftist 'Believe all women' campaign are the issues I addressed in my posts above. Stick with that or move along.

The main accusation against kavanaugh was in fact credible. If you reject this that is on you, but I get the feeling you’d reject any r*pe victims claims that didn’t have video proof and even then might try to argue it was doctored.
Blasey Ford -
- Couldn't remember where it took place
- Couldn't remember when it took place
- Couldn't remember who was there
- Couldn't remember how she got there, how she got home
- Her alleged witnesses did not corroborate her story
- Claimed she was afraid to fly: LIE. It was an obvious delay tactic.
- Claimed she is a psychologist: LIE.
- Front door story: LIE.

Explain, in detail:
1. How she is credible.
2. Why someone's career, life, and family should have been permanently destroyed over lies and zero evidence.

You failed to answer the following:

Where did the victims suddenly go? Where did their staunchest supporters go [MSM, Dems, left activists], who claimed the survivors absolutely needed to be believed and were so credible? Why isn't the MSM following up on this story? Why the hypocrisy of hushing things up and smearing the victims when Dems get accused of r*pe?
 





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No, I didn't say or even imply that, and I'm not taking the bait of this ridiculous distraction. The holes in Blasey Ford's testimony are very well known and the BLATANT disgusting hypocrisy of the leftist 'Believe all women' campaign are the issues I addressed in my posts above. Stick with that or move along.



Blasey Ford -
- Couldn't remember where it took place
- Couldn't remember when it took place
- Couldn't remember who was there
- Couldn't remember how she got there, how she got home
- Her alleged witnesses did not corroborate her story
- Claimed she was afraid to fly: LIE. It was an obvious delay tactic.
- Claimed she is a psychologist: LIE.
- Front door story: LIE.

Explain, in detail:
1. How she is credible.
2. Why someone's career, life, and family should have been permanently destroyed over lies and zero evidence.

You failed to answer the following:

Where did the victims suddenly go? Where did their staunchest supporters go [MSM, Dems, left activists], who claimed the survivors absolutely needed to be believed and were so credible? Why isn't the MSM following up on this story? Why the hypocrisy of hushing things up and smearing the victims when Dems get accused of r*pe?
Isn't it convenient that the questioning suddenly focused on accusations of r*pe instead of his rulings on first and fourth amendment issues?
 





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No, I didn't say or even imply that, and I'm not taking the bait of this ridiculous distraction. The holes in Blasey Ford's testimony are very well known and the BLATANT disgusting hypocrisy of the leftist 'Believe all women' campaign are the issues I addressed in my posts above. Stick with that or move along.



Blasey Ford -
- Couldn't remember where it took place
- Couldn't remember when it took place
- Couldn't remember who was there
- Couldn't remember how she got there, how she got home
- Her alleged witnesses did not corroborate her story
- Claimed she was afraid to fly: LIE. It was an obvious delay tactic.
- Claimed she is a psychologist: LIE.
- Front door story: LIE.

Explain, in detail:
1. How she is credible.
2. Why someone's career, life, and family should have been permanently destroyed over lies and zero evidence.

You failed to answer the following:

Where did the victims suddenly go? Where did their staunchest supporters go [MSM, Dems, left activists], who claimed the survivors absolutely needed to be believed and were so credible? Why isn't the MSM following up on this story? Why the hypocrisy of hushing things up and smearing the victims when Dems get accused of r*pe?
Home? Where would you have liked them to go? What would you have liked them to do?

Where and what would you have liked their supporters to do/go? The last I heard ford still was receiving threats and supporters were raising funds for security for her. The hearings are over what exactly would you like everyone to do?

The last prominent dem that was accused was pressured to resign by other dems, and did resign. This isn’t exactly a double standard. Clinton, if that’s who you are referring to, was decades ago and the whole attitude towards sexual assault was different back then, it wasn’t ok but it’s not a fair comparison either.

She took a lie detector, had friends and therapists who corroborated her account. Unless your head is buried in the sand she was credible.

You have no proof she was lying and the guys life was clearly not destroyed. He’s got one of the most powerful positions in the world.

Better question why are women who are assaulted constantly asked to consider the consequences and damage to their assaulters before reporting? What about the damage to the victim?

If that’s not what you meant then what EVIDENCE or PROOF would you accept? There usually isn’t a whole lot of that available with r*pe cases due to the nature of the crime. Please explain yourself.
 





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Where would you have liked them to go? What would you have liked them to do?
Survivors of r*pe and abuse don't wait 30+ to throw down their testimonies right before a Supreme Court hearing, and then disappear. If there was anything credible to the accusations, they, the MSM, and the Dems would still be screaming about it to harm Kavanaugh further.

You have no proof she was lying...
1. The proof of lying was in her own testimony, which contained real and actual lies.
2. Kavanaugh was cleared of all wrong doing. That is proof her testimony was nonsense.
3. Lie detector: Two generic questions with no mention of Kavanaugh.
4. Corroborating witnesses: Wash Times, Sept 23 -

"Democratic lawmakers repeated calls for an FBI probe into the allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh on Sunday despite four witnesses saying they don’t recall the party where Christine Blasey Ford says she was assaulted.

The repeated demands for the FBI investigation come after a woman who reportedly attended the high school party with with Ms. Blasey Ford more than three decades ago has no recollection of the event and denies knowing the Supreme Court nominee, her lawyer told the Judiciary Committee Saturday.

Leland Keyser is now the fourth person who has come forward with no recollection of the party or incident, as described by Ms. Blasey Ford, a California professor, who accused Judge Kavanaugh of forcing himself on her after drinking heavily at a high school party in the early 1980s.

Two other men have also told the committee they don’t remember the party and deny ever having witnessed Judge Kavanaugh act in the manner Ms. Blasey Ford alleges. Judge Kavanaugh has also denied the accusation.

"Worse, the four other people she identified as attending the party, including Kavanaugh, all deny knowledge of the gathering in question, including Leland Ingham Keyser, who she calls a “lifelong friend.”

Keyser’s lawyer told the Senate Judiciary Committee: “Simply put, Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with or without Dr. Ford.”

The other two potential witnesses — Mark Judge and Patrick “P.J.” Smyth — also deny any recollection of attending such a party. The committee took their sworn statements “under penalty of perjury.” “These witnesses directly contradict Professor Ford’s allegations against Judge Kavanaugh,” Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley advised Ford’s attorneys last week."

and the guys life was clearly not destroyed.He’s got one of the most powerful positions in the world.
I cannot believe that's your justification. He and his family went through hell for no reason other than the left wanting to prevent his nomination. The damage to his reputation has been done and will be permanent. Should someone bring false accusations against you or someone you love, let us know how you feel about it then.
 





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I agree but it’s easier said then done... the amount of time they hold over your head if you don’t plea is crazy and if you know your guilty it’s a hard call to make
I know that. The courts really make it seem like taking the plea deal is the best option. But it's not. They aren't trying to help you out and that's the important takeaway here.

Also, I think Lurking might be talking about Keith Ellison. Who has been accused twice I think. I haven't followed the whole story but there were some damning accusations. And the Democratic party came out and said, we don't believe the victim.

I don't see it as hypocrisy because not raping women is the minimum standard men should live by. Maybe it's better to say not being a piece of shit isn't a virtue. And once again the real fallacy here is personal bias. Aka cherry picking.