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Is it?Who says it’s foreign to me and my family?
Is it?Who says it’s foreign to me and my family?
right-- but if they are given food, they can focus on planning how to get their lives back into society. they have time to look for a solid job or get a GED if they need one, or whatever. additionally, the food is clean (healthy... i dont know) so they wont be sick which costs the taxpayers money in the hospital for their treatment.I think it helps if people know they don’t have to work to get a meal. I’m a teach them how to fish rather than give them the fish kind of person. I don’t think that makes me wrong.
yes, they have, but anyone who has tanked themselves usually has undergone a severe traumatic experience in their life. rarely does one turn to heroin or crack or alcohol abuse if their life is going great. one gets depressed like youve never conceived possible, turn to something to alleviate the pain, and it spirals out of control.I don’t think that addicts are less fortunate, they’ve tanked themselves.
theres plenty of people who smoke weed, use mushrooms, do ayhuasca, and smoke cigarettes and their lives are just fine. lets phrase it this way and say "drugs that control a persons life".but I was wrong about the other assumption I made...
The more you do drugs the less of a good person you are...it’s not hopeless to turn it around, but until you do, your life isn’t good.
And while you teach them to fish are they supposed to starve?? You do realize some people are effectively unemployable.. no matter how hard they want to work no one wants to hire them. This can be for a million reasons. Many outside of someone’s control or based on mistakes they made decades earlier. Also about 45% of homeless people are employed. With wages being so low and costs skyrocketing how the hell do you come off judging someone? Half the country is one case of bronchitis away from eviction, holding on by a damn thread and it has nothing to do with drugs. All homeless people aren’t addicts and I’d be willing to bet a good proportion of those who are developed an addiction after their life went to complete shit. If your so damn low your living in a gutter what point is there in maintaining perfect sobriety? I’d want any mental escape I could get from that reality too.I think it helps if people know they don’t have to work to get a meal. I’m a teach them how to fish rather than give them the fish kind of person. I don’t think that makes me wrong.
I don’t think that addicts are less fortunate, they’ve tanked themselves.
No doubt about that.
I’m gonna take it you didn’t mean gas person...but I was wrong about the other assumption I made...
The more you do drugs the less of a good person you are...it’s not hopeless to turn it around, but until you do, your life isn’t good.
No, it is not, who in this world is that a foreign concept to I wonder? If people don’t have a family member than they know friends. I’ve had both friends and family. Luckily a family member and his wife have got things together...for the most part, they gave up their drugs, got married and have a little girl. I sure hope and pray they never go back to their old lives, especially with their little girl now in the picture. A nephew who abuses drugs and my sister did them years ago.Is it?
That’s the hope right...but do those people do that though? You know if you just give people hand outs...they stop doing for themselves a lot of the times. I mean, if people are serious about not being homeless they will take that helping hand and use it...if not, that won’t help them.right-- but if they are given food, they can focus on planning how to get their lives back into society. they have time to look for a solid job or get a GED if they need one, or whatever. additionally, the food is clean (healthy... i dont know) so they wont be sick which costs the taxpayers money in the hospital for their treatment.
Is that an excuse to tank themselves though? They aren’t just hurting themselves...they are hurting their family members too. You forget people also do drugs to keep up with their friends.yes, they have, but anyone who has tanked themselves usually has undergone a severe traumatic experience in their life. rarely does one turn to heroin or crack or alcohol abuse if their life is going great. one gets depressed like youve never conceived possible, turn to something to alleviate the pain, and it spirals out of control.
i think they need some help.
I think that’s a myth..no ones life is just fine.theres plenty of people who smoke weed, use mushrooms, do ayhuasca, and smoke cigarettes and their lives are just fine. lets phrase it this way and say "drugs that control a persons life".
That’s called sin.People are born with chemical makeups that predispose them to addiction.
People are amazing..ya, I’ll give ya that..but their actions a lot of the time aren’t. Choosing to make right choices isn’t easy I get that. But, at the end of the day..one must choose good choices. How do you separate a person from their actions? Love the sinner hate the sin..I suppose so, but that person that keeps going many times loses that because of their actions. After awhile you cease to see the person you loved and see just the way they are now and its really that with addicts. Again...not saying that they can’t pull out of it and get back to where they were..its just that its so much harder when they let themselves go to the extent they are homeless.I meant bad. Many addicts are amazing people. Drugs can make good people do bad things. That doesn’t mean the person is bad, their actions are.
I don’t do drugs lisa. I just want to make that clear. I have a drink maybe three times a year and I haven’t even smoked weed for my ms in 6 years. I’ve lost a whole lot of people I loved very much to drugs and I would not have loved them if they were shitty people.
Asshole I said I don’t do drugs. Not I used to be an addict. Because I figured that was coming and somehow it came anyway.That’s called sin.
People are amazing..ya, I’ll give ya that..but their actions a lot of the time aren’t. Choosing to make right choices isn’t easy I get that. But, at the end of the day..one must choose good choices. How do you separate a person from their actions? Love the sinner hate the sin..I suppose so, but that person that keeps going many times loses that because of their actions. After awhile you cease to see the person you loved and see just the way they are now and its really that with addicts. Again...not saying that they can’t pull out of it and get back to where they were..its just that its so much harder when they let themselves go to the extent they are homeless.
Good, glad you don’t do stuff anymore...you made that choice.
Take a breath JJ. I think she meant that it was a good choice to not do anything anymore. Keep in mind that she would be against a weekly Friday night bong hit.I said I don’t do drugs. Not I used to be an addict.
Didn’t you say this..Asshole I said I don’t do drugs. Not I used to be an addict.
That’s doing drugs, though you have an excuse, everyone does.I haven’t even smoked weed for my ms in 6 years
I brought up many homeless are addicts..I think it’s ok to discuss it in a thread about the homeless and it’s my thread...The thread is about homeless people. Not addicts. Some homeless people are addicts but no where near all of them. People are homeless for a ton of different reasons but I’m sure it’s easier for you to just write them all of as addicts since you clearly don’t give a hoot about addicts it makes it real simple not to give a hoot about homeless people too.
I do.Are you sure you READ that bible Lisa?
Smoking weed for MS crosses the line from excuse to medicinal. You really should do some research on medical marijuana.That’s doing drugs, though you have an excuse, everyone does.
Does it? Or is it just another excuse to do that drug? Next people will say..magic mushrooms help..oops! That’s being done now too.Smoking weed for MS crosses the line from excuse to medicinal. You really should do some research on medical marijuana.
Magic Mushrooms are the most promising treatment for depression in decades. I can’t wait until the drug hits the market.Does it? Or is it just another excuse to do that drug? Next people will say..magic mushrooms help..oops! That’s being done now too.
Right....Magic Mushrooms are the most promising treatment for depression in decades. I can’t wait until the drug hits the market.
It is.Right....
Torn. I can only see Big-Pharma hijacking it and holding it ransom. So to speak.Magic Mushrooms are the most promising treatment for depression in decades. I can’t wait until the drug hits the market.
CBD, perhaps?I don’t even like the feeling of being high
There is that possibility yes. Medical research must be taken out of the private sector, it’s the only solution.Torn. I can only see Big-Pharma hijacking it and holding it ransom. So to speak.
Probably try it if and when I have another attack. Haven’t had an attack since December 2012 so haven’t had a reason to see if that’s a better option. It wasn’t so easily available back then.CBD, perhaps?