rainerann
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yeah, I don’t think the Arab countries were too happy with the plan once it was released.I say that Abbas supports terror because he does. His support of terror, and the use of terror by Hamas, is the exact reason why Israel needs military authority over the Palestinians in the first place.
They commit a war crime every time they launch an unguided explosive at Israeli civilians, and they've been launching them for the past four days. That's not reasonable. And if they want independence, why do they keep turning it down? Name one other independence movement in history that has turned down the offer of their own state because the borders weren't quite to their liking? How do you defend their quest for a state, when the only apparent goal has been prolonging the Palestinian time without one? Why on earth has it taken so long for people to admit that they aren't serious about getting a state, and never have been?
Technically, the Palestinians have had two elections in the last 70 years. In 2005, they elected Abbas to the four-year term that he is currently a decade and a half into, and in 2006, Hamas won the legislative elections, but Abbas dismissed their government, leading them to take over Gaza. There is nothing civilized or democratic about an electoral process that's used only once every 70 years, and whose chief purpose seems to be installing well-known terrorists as rulers for life. I don't believe for a second that all Palestinians support terror, but you can't really believe that the Palestinians have free elections, or that their leaders aren't terrorists. Can you?
Here is a link to the White House page linking to statements from UAE, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Qatar and Bahrain, publicly voicing their support for a deal, and when I say a deal, I mean, if you read their language, it sounds like they will support any deal, at this point. The point is, those are five Arab nations that are openly recognizing Israel as a legitimate state. And as I've been pointing out, the mood in the Middle East is not nearly as anti-Israel as it once was. You can be sure Egypt and other countries are sending clear messages to the Palestinians, even if they're not saying it openly.
As I've been saying, the plan is the last one like this we'll ever see, and the Palestinians should take it. It's obvious that it's a way for Arab countries to wash their hands of the Palestinian issue, and let Israel do what it needs to do for it's own security. It's been an expensive waste of time for the Arab world, and now it's getting in the way of prosperity.
My assessment of this isn't gloating or wishful thinking. This is what I actually believe is going on, based on what I know, and what I see happening.
“The Arab League's head, Ahmed Aboul-Gheit, said the proposal revealed a "sharp turn" in the long-standing US foreign policy regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
"This turn does not help achieve peace and a just solution," he declared.
The Arab League's final communique described the deal as "a new setback for the three-decade peace efforts".
It said Arab foreign ministers "reject the US, Israeli deal of the century because it did not meet the minimum rights and aspirations of the Palestinian people."
Whether they were hopeful that there would be a legitimate plan before it was released or not, they seem to recognize that this is not the deal of the century for Palestine. So bummer for trump. It sounds more like he ticked them off again rather than helping the cause.
abc.net.au/news/2020-02-02/arab-league-holds-emergency-meeting-over-trump-peace-plan/11921352?pfmredir=sm
there is also nothing that you could say that will justify Israeli military supervision over the area. They deserve sovereignty period. Palestinian sovereignty does not infringe on Israel’s ability to create a process for dealing with terrorism.
It really kind of sickens me to think that there are real people out there who support such a notion. The only reason Israel needs a provision like this is because they are actively pushing their boundaries out into areas that have not legally belonged to them before. That is why they need supervisory military control included in a peace deal with Palestine and not with Egypt. It has nothing to do with any kind of conflict that they have experienced as neighboring nations in the past and entirely to do with the fact that Israel will never get any support for any kind of continued expansion in the area unless they are able to legitimize occupying areas that are presently considered illegal.
Israel needs a plan that supports the annexation and gives them military authority over the people that they took this area from, so that in the future, they will have the opportunity for further expansion.
there is nothing in this plan that prevents future expansion, but the international perspective will not be a favorable one unless they can annex the land they are occupying now. Israel is presently going in this direction and the peace plan would grease their way into this reality with less questions from the international community.
the Palestinians did the right thing. Israel will continue to show their true colors to the world and whether the Arab world was hopeful in the beginning, they seem to be able to see that this plan for peace was deceptive. This plan was more like a metaphorical inchworm working towards the larger vision of greater Israel. It was not a plan for peace.