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Not sure about JJ and OSU, but if the whole thing is not merely a coordinated circus but rather a partisan deflection, it seems to have died a quick, and ultimately tragic (as far as the collateral damage) death..... https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/11/19/jim-jordan-cuts-to-the-nub-of-it-all-mr-volker-you-did-your-job/

Also, this young lady did a good job
 






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Not sure about JJ and OSU, but if the whole thing is not merely a coordinated circus but rather a partisan deflection, it seems to have died a quick, and ultimately tragic (as far as the collateral damage) death..... https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/11/19/jim-jordan-cuts-to-the-nub-of-it-all-mr-volker-you-did-your-job/

Also, this young lady did a good job
The whole thing is such a mess for the Democrats. It’s making 2020 a lock for Trump, because it’s vindicating everything he says about the left. They are dissembling, corrupt and stupid. The fact that Trump himself has these same tendencies and is still winning just makes them look worse. All they have to do to win the next election is to not be as bad as Trump, and they are failing awfully.
 






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This Sondland guy is pretty unlikable. But obviously no case here. So this must be a staged distraction from Schiff. I’d prefer to know what we are being distracted from...

Do you think Giuliani is necessary or useful? He seems to be just another headache for DT.
He’s as dumb as Trump is, sometimes. I’m not sure why he talks.
 






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God is in control of it and he obviously has a sense of humor.
 






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Trump woos Jews, Jews impeach Trump

The impeachment farce is basically a Jewish affair, noted the Israeli daily Haaretz. The soul and engine of the impeachment is Adam Schiff, ‘Shifty Schiff’ in Trump’s colourful expression. His name brings to mind the Jewish banking house of Schiff, top Jewish aristocracy of money and media. The second man is Greedy Goldman, or Daniel Sachs Goldman, the chief interrogator in the impeachment hearings. Sachs Goldman or Goldman Sachs, another top Jewish name and bank. The third Jew in the heart of the impeachment is infamous George Soros. Haaretz could add that the top witnesses for prosecution are also Jewish, the bizarre Gordon “Zelensky loves your ass” Sondland, or Vindman the Spy. Trump would never dare to notice this remarkable coincidence, concludes Haaretz. Only antisemites would.


Instead of pointing this open conspiracy out and calling the Americans to save the Republic, President Trump appealed to the Jewish sense of gratitude. He bestowed now his third fabulous gift to the Jewish state, namely recognition of the settlements for-Jews-only on the stolen Palestinian land, after he recognised Jerusalem and the Golan Heights. Or perhaps the fourth, if you’d count his withdrawal out of Iran agreement. He legalised the settlements by the unilateral decision of the superpower, something the Israeli governments never could or dared. If the US were be as omnipotent as it was twenty years ago, that would be the end of Oslo and Geneva agreements, and practically the end of attempts to create a State of Palestine alongside with Israel, something Israeli nationalists wanted all along. With the US engulfed in the cold civil war, it could lead to self-de-legitimisation of the US, or to collapse of Two States paradigm. It is apparently a huge gift to the Jewish state.

Trump thought that his generosity would melt Jewish hearts, and they would let him govern in peace. But no, the Jews accept every gift as their due; it is absence of a gift that is surprising and troublesome, probably to be explained by anti-Semitism. They said that his recognition will annoy the Democrats, and they will take it away when they regain the White House.

Probably this reaction is exactly what Trump counted on, for he does not care about Palestine or Israel. His target audience is the US Jewry. Trump hopes that the Jews who care about Israel more than they care about the US would switch allegiance and support him, so the Democrats wouldn’t win the next elections and roll back the recognition. Judging by past experience, the Jews will gain by this competition for their favours, while the US will lose, and so will Trump.


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by Israel Shamir - The Unz Review
 






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Trump woos Jews, Jews impeach Trump

The impeachment farce is basically a Jewish affair, noted the Israeli daily Haaretz. The soul and engine of the impeachment is Adam Schiff, ‘Shifty Schiff’ in Trump’s colourful expression. His name brings to mind the Jewish banking house of Schiff, top Jewish aristocracy of money and media. The second man is Greedy Goldman, or Daniel Sachs Goldman, the chief interrogator in the impeachment hearings. Sachs Goldman or Goldman Sachs, another top Jewish name and bank. The third Jew in the heart of the impeachment is infamous George Soros. Haaretz could add that the top witnesses for prosecution are also Jewish, the bizarre Gordon “Zelensky loves your ass” Sondland, or Vindman the Spy. Trump would never dare to notice this remarkable coincidence, concludes Haaretz. Only antisemites would.

Instead of pointing this open conspiracy out and calling the Americans to save the Republic, President Trump appealed to the Jewish sense of gratitude. He bestowed now his third fabulous gift to the Jewish state, namely recognition of the settlements for-Jews-only on the stolen Palestinian land, after he recognised Jerusalem and the Golan Heights. Or perhaps the fourth, if you’d count his withdrawal out of Iran agreement. He legalised the settlements by the unilateral decision of the superpower, something the Israeli governments never could or dared. If the US were be as omnipotent as it was twenty years ago, that would be the end of Oslo and Geneva agreements, and practically the end of attempts to create a State of Palestine alongside with Israel, something Israeli nationalists wanted all along. With the US engulfed in the cold civil war, it could lead to self-de-legitimisation of the US, or to collapse of Two States paradigm. It is apparently a huge gift to the Jewish state.

Trump thought that his generosity would melt Jewish hearts, and they would let him govern in peace. But no, the Jews accept every gift as their due; it is absence of a gift that is surprising and troublesome, probably to be explained by anti-Semitism. They said that his recognition will annoy the Democrats, and they will take it away when they regain the White House.

Probably this reaction is exactly what Trump counted on, for he does not care about Palestine or Israel. His target audience is the US Jewry. Trump hopes that the Jews who care about Israel more than they care about the US would switch allegiance and support him, so the Democrats wouldn’t win the next elections and roll back the recognition. Judging by past experience, the Jews will gain by this competition for their favours, while the US will lose, and so will Trump.

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by Israel Shamir - The Unz Review
Crap like this triggers me. Not all Jews are the same. Conservative, religious, traditional Jews support Trump. Secular Jews like Bloomberg do not. This isn’t hard. Are all Muslims the same? I know all Christians are not. Nor are all Americans, or Italians, etc. Soros wanted Netanyahu out... , etc, etc
 






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That's right. The publisher of Unz Review which published the article is Ron Unz, a Jew. The author of the article is Israel Shamir, a Jew. That not all Jews are the same is implicit in the context of this article. Don't be triggered.
But also I disagree with his thesis. The ‘Jews’ looking to burn Trump are not the same ‘Jews’ he’s breaking bread with. Maybe the ones he’s breaking bread with want him to attack Iran, but I don’t think they want him impeached or are even looking to send a message. They are not turning on him that swiftly. The Jews that hate him, always have because he is not fully on board with the anti-nationalist/globalist agenda
 






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But also I disagree with his thesis. The ‘Jews’ looking to burn Trump are not the same ‘Jews’ he’s breaking bread with. Maybe the ones he’s breaking bread with want him to attack Iran, but I don’t think they want him impeached or are even looking to send a message. They are not turning on him that swiftly. The Jews that hate him, always have because he is not fully on board with the anti-nationalist/globalist agenda
I agree for the most part. But even the ones on Trump's side (Adelson, Singer and Marcus) are reconsidering their allegience. Neocon warhawk John Bolton was brought in because of Adelson to push for conflict with Iran. When they were ready to attack Iran after that drone incident, it was Trump who called it off and not much later he fired Adelson's stooge. This is a sort of betrayal.

I think the article has a great point that Trump keeps giving them what they want with regards to Israel, but he's not getting much in return. What Trump did to Bolton had him look for support somewhere else which might mean he feels his sponsors' loyalties are wavering. Just a few weeks ago he hustled some dollars from the orthodox Jews of New York. It seems to have worked for now. It wouldn't be so far-fetched to think Trump is looking to get re-elected to get the 4 years where a president has more freedom in pursuing what he wants, ie. the 2nd-term, because there is less personal accountability after it.
 






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I agree for the most part. But even the ones on Trump's side (Adelson, Singer and Marcus) are reconsidering their allegience. Neocon warhawk John Bolton was brought in because of Adelson to push for conflict with Iran. When they were ready to attack Iran after that drone incident, it was Trump who called it off and not much later he fired Adelson's stooge. This is a sort of betrayal.

I think the article has a great point that Trump keeps giving them what they want with regards to Israel, but he's not getting much in return. What Trump did to Bolton had him look for support somewhere else which might mean he feels his sponsors' loyalties are wavering. Just a few weeks ago he hustled some dollars from the orthodox Jews of New York. It seems to have worked for now. It wouldn't be so far-fetched to think Trump is looking to get re-elected to get the 4 years where a president has more freedom in pursuing what he wants, ie. the 2nd-term, because there is less personal accountability after it.
Ok, maybe I didn’t read all the article well enough, but I agree with what you are saying here, and I definitely don’t trust his son-in-law either.
 






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