What exactly has he accomplished that qualifies him as great?
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He beat Hillary.
A fruit fly could have beat Hilary. That isn’t an accomplishment.
Do you trust MSM now? Or polls for that matter?
She is one of the most hated women in the history of this country. Running her was the biggest “mistake” the dems ever made. This shouldn’t be news.
if we have lowered the bar for accomplishments to simply being elected that’s a problem
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Sanders couldn't.
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I never trusted the MSM, that is why I do not sound like an MSM sound byte in the forum. So, it sounds like your real issue should be with the dems who out her up for elections? What message is the anti trump left currently carrying on with how to help the country and world?
And where oh where are all the anti-Trump daily haters when the MSM are crying that he DID NOT GO TO WAR., Trump called off the strike. Give him a one-time cookie for that for it is what we all should have wanted.
Addendum - for those not watching MSM, the left are up in arms Trump did not act and go to war and raking him through the coals for it. They have controlled media pushing an agenda and trying to alter reality through mind control of the masses -- a dumbed down bunch of people.
There are people trying to weed out the warmongers in this nation and go up against the industrial military complex. It is not an easy battle and will likely be lost. I mean, who would have thought CNN, MSNBC and others would admonish a president for not going to an immediate war and have rational thoughts which prevented it.
And where oh where are all the anti-Trump daily haters when the MSM are crying that he DID NOT GO TO WAR., Trump called off the strike. Give him a one-time cookie for that for it is what we all should have wanted.
Addendum - for those not watching MSM, the left are up in arms Trump did not act and go to war and raking him through the coals for it. They have controlled media pushing an agenda and trying to alter reality through mind control of the masses -- a dumbed down bunch of people.
There are people trying to weed out the warmongers in this nation and go up against the industrial military complex. It is not an easy battle and will likely be lost. I mean, who would have thought CNN, MSNBC and others would admonish a president for not going to an immediate war and have rational thoughts which prevented it.
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Will never know that will we? They stole that from him. It was a whole scandal... were you paying attention?
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Do you think for a minute that Hillary didn't try and steal the election from Trump, too? She's still trying to. What do you think all this "collusion" BS is about?
My issue? My issue is with many people. Including and possibly foremost the Democratic Party.
I have not seen one person pissed trump didn’t go to war with Iran. I have seen people pissed that he ordered the strike to begin with. Admittedly I don’t watch tv so I could have missed it quite easily.
The left has a whole lot of proposals on how to help the country and the world.
I am still waiting for a list of accomplishments that shows why trump is great..
Did you read the mueller report? Actually read it?
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I was but where was the outrage at the time. And do you really think he would have won? "They," currently have no plan expect hating on Trump. No plan, whatsoever with the exception of trying to push us to socialism. That will not win.
And she had help.
I am not trying to be mean here, but to not watch MSM you sure have a lot of their same talking points. But I do feel your pain on watching the Hillary machine screw everyone over along the way. This was deep state action uncontrolled. As for Trump who has mentioned him being great? But we have not been in a new war yet, got out of the Isis mess for the most part and have a great economy and job market, crime is down, etc. I will take just not jumping into wars as acceptable considering he is surrounded by warmongers posturing to get us into a mess,
Thunderian said he was great. In the post I responded to. Try reading.
I don’t even have cable lol. We watch cartoons on Netflix all day and something on hbo when the baby goes to sleep. I do READ a lot. But I read everything.
I’m going to have to disagree with you on the economy and job market. As do most economists... as for the war hawks HE APPOINTED THEM.
And the left has lots of plans. Lots. You just aren’t paying attention to them I guess.
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Actually, I said, "he's turned out to be a great conservative president."
Try reading.
Want to explain how that isn’t calling him great?
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Ummm, my comments were in reference to yours and not Thundy's. It is okay to say something positive on occasion about anyone, even those you may loathe. And did I mention Deep State? They got themselves appointed. Since I am seeing CAPS and try reading comments I will assume I hit a nerve and back off.
Some people do think he is okay if not great and that is why he got elected. There is no one truth to all opinions out there. I detest the way he goes about his business but the results are getting harder to argue against form any objectionable person. We have very little objectivity in the forums these days and instead like-minded thinking in groups which are split. Split is the keyword for we see it every day and many posters are fully consigned to argue their lives away here.
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The caps were for emphasis because it seems you may have forgotten that those people weren’t just hoisted on him, he chose them himself.
You asked me who called him great, I directed you towards what I was replying to. Nothing in this indicates a triggered emotional response.
I’ll say something positive about him when he gives me something positive to comment on. The occasions for that have been sorely lacking... I did defend him when he was calling out Amazon for not paying taxes and the left was losing their minds. However that was short lived since very shortly after he made it even easier for Amazon (and other corporations) to not pay any taxes and to pay less taxes when they actually do.
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My point is you asked me why he was great when I did not say that. Ask Thundy, I guess, but he tried to explain that a lot of people do think he is great and that is why he won - people wanted change and give an outsider a chance.
I won't hold my breath on a positive comment nor do I need one from you. I am just saying, again, that people are obsessed with Trump and take out a ton of personal anger and angst on him -- a single man who is questionable in actual control over what many think he is.
Do you really think he chose everyone in his cabinet? Your worries should not center on Trump alone but those trying to manipulate us on a daily basis including those who are trying to control him and send us into a war. So, a yes or no question. Was it a good thing he stood down on attacking Iran?
I won't hold my breath on a positive comment nor do I need one from you. I am just saying, again, that people are obsessed with Trump and take out a ton of personal anger and angst on him -- a single man who is questionable in actual control over what many think he is.
Do you really think he chose everyone in his cabinet? Your worries should not center on Trump alone but those trying to manipulate us on a daily basis including those who are trying to control him and send us into a war. So, a yes or no question. Was it a good thing he stood down on attacking Iran?
If you think my worries are only on trump you haven’t been paying attention. However he is the president last time I checked. And these are threads about him specifically. So my comments about him in threads about him are normal and expected.
I’m happy he called it off. But nothing is that simple as I’m sure you are well aware.
I’m happy he called it off. But nothing is that simple as I’m sure you are well aware.