Training vs just working out

Maes17

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So there seems to be a difference.
I’ve always trained physically with a purpose whether it was sport. I’m motivated now just because I have a neighbor who goes off the rails every few months. My dad mode goes into full protection and I train more explosive every 8 weeks.

I’ve also been training the mind.
Reading a lot more again, also clearing head space and not giving into anger as often.

So with that said.
What drives you to train?
What are your training methods?

Or

Do you just workout to workout?
Which is ok. We all start somewhere
 






neptunejoo

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the difference is painstaking, I guess

Back in days, people had mentors or such a gurus.

Men used to train and had disciples.

Those disciples could have many mentors. And naturally, when one already attained and accomplished a knowledge, a skill, or wisdom. One could wander to seek another mentor to up his game.

I really love this kind of old way that modern people don't have.

Nowadays, people just workout to keep body fit. i think
 






Lil axe

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What drives you to train? - to be self sufficient, not to get my butt kicked by a young whippersnipper, to be able to hold my own , and stand my ground, also the oncoming storm from the elite

What are your training methods? - free weights, push / pull
also not as much cardio as i want, but as of now , walking (everyday)/ light jogging (3 times a week)

Or

Do you just workout to workout? - some days, just to release frustrations
 






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So there seems to be a difference.
I’ve always trained physically with a purpose whether it was sport. I’m motivated now just because I have a neighbor who goes off the rails every few months. My dad mode goes into full protection and I train more explosive every 8 weeks.

I’ve also been training the mind.
Reading a lot more again, also clearing head space and not giving into anger as often.

So with that said.
What drives you to train?
What are your training methods?

Or

Do you just workout to workout?
Which is ok. We all start somewhere
I can't call it workout... I just like to walk on the park . But at least is something.
I should do more excercise , but I prefer to read.
 






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I do some of both. I try to eat a little bit of everything and avoid over indulging on anything, but I do like to eat and have not intention of avoiding anything completely. So I run so I can continue to eat. Running is the most efficient (time wise) way to burn calories for me. If I didn't run reguraly I would easily be 10-15lbs heavier than I am. Because I haven't been putting as many miles in as I did a couple years ago I am still 10-15 lbs heavier than I would like to be.

For training I specifically do things that will help with my endurance when road racing motorcyles. Inner and outer thighs and core strength are important as that is crucial to leaning off the bike wihout using upper body to hold yourself and running does very little to train the inner and outer thigh muscles.

Not using your upper body to hold yourself on the bike allows your arms and hands to precisely control the bike without unwanted input to the motorcycle. Also gripping the bars intensely can lead to forearm pump.

 






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I do some of both. I try to eat a little bit of everything and avoid over indulging on anything, but I do like to eat and have not intention of avoiding anything completely. So I run so I can continue to eat. Running is the most efficient (time wise) way to burn calories for me. If I didn't run reguraly I would easily be 10-15lbs heavier than I am. Because I haven't been putting as many miles in as I did a couple years ago I am still 10-15 lbs heavier than I would like to be.

For training I specifically do things that will help with my endurance when road racing motorcyles. Inner and outer thighs and core strength are important as that is crucial to leaning off the bike wihout using upper body to hold yourself and running does very little to train the inner and outer thigh muscles.

Not using your upper body to hold yourself on the bike allows your arms and hands to precisely control the bike without unwanted input to the motorcycle. Also gripping the bars intensely can lead to forearm pump.

Nice.

Yeah I still train like I’m in sports.
I’ll go through my 8 week routine to put on a bit of size. Deload or take a week off entirely then switch to a more lighter but explosive routine as well as added anerobic cardio mixed with some heavy bag boxing work
 






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I lift to make my job easier. Every now and then we'll do a 200-300 ft service wire pull. The average wire we use for this is about a quarter's width thick (500 mcm). This can be difficult to bend getting it into place inside panels. The wire rolls themselves are anywhere from 200-500 pounds. We have to lift them up to put them on a pipe so we can roll them out.

Every now and then we install transformers which are usually 400-500lbs. Have to move them around and manipulate them into place. Most of the time we mount them in the ceiling with a hitch. Customers don't like them taking up floor space.

While a 5 year old is strong enough to install switches and plugs, some aspects of the trade requires some real force.


Staying motivated can be difficult. Especially when the lifts are 80-90% 1RM. I will usually watch lifting videos on youtube for inspiration, Alan Thrall is one of my favorites. Some songs are motivating, here's a good one by skillet.


I usually do sets of 5, I'll do 6 when i need cardio.
 






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I lift to make my job easier. Every now and then we'll do a 200-300 ft service wire pull. The average wire we use for this is about a quarter's width thick (500 mcm). This can be difficult to bend getting it into place inside panels. The wire rolls themselves are anywhere from 200-500 pounds. We have to lift them up to put them on a pipe so we can roll them out.

Every now and then we install transformers which are usually 400-500lbs. Have to move them around and manipulate them into place. Most of the time we mount them in the ceiling with a hitch. Customers don't like them taking up floor space.

While a 5 year old is strong enough to install switches and plugs, some aspects of the trade requires some real force.


Staying motivated can be difficult. Especially when the lifts are 80-90% 1RM. I will usually watch lifting videos on youtube for inspiration, Alan Thrall is one of my favorites. Some songs are motivating, here's a good one by skillet.


I usually do sets of 5, I'll do 6 when i need cardio.
80-90 % is insane.
I’ll work 70% of my 1 rm at most for 8 reps.
At the end of a training program I’ll decrease reps and increase percentage
 






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80-90 % is insane.
I’ll work 70% of my 1 rm at most for 8 reps.
At the end of a training program I’ll decrease reps and increase percentage
I started stronglifts 5x5 mid June. Modified it to 3x5 about 3 months in from Starting strengths model, i figured why do 5 sets if i can get similar results with 3? For at least the last month I've only been adding 1 lb to my squat every session (5lb is too big of a jump anymore). On the squat I'm currently doing 184lb x 5 per work set when my 1RM was 220lb about 2 weeks ago. This is roughly 85% and is difficult for me.

Maybe i will take a look at some intermediate programs and see if i should modify things because the squat is only getting heavier. Even though its only 1lb every other day the weight on the bar is growing faster then i am.
 






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I started stronglifts 5x5 mid June. Modified it to 3x5 about 3 months in from Starting strengths model, i figured why do 5 sets if i can get similar results with 3? For at least the last month I've only been adding 1 lb to my squat every session (5lb is too big of a jump anymore). On the squat I'm currently doing 184lb x 5 per work set when my 1RM was 220lb about 2 weeks ago. This is roughly 85% and is difficult for me.

Maybe i will take a look at some intermediate programs and see if i should modify things because the squat is only getting heavier. Even though its only 1lb every other day the weight on the bar is growing faster then i am.
Stick to 3 reps if you’re seeing progress. Don’t be afraid to take a deload and try a higher rep routine to see if that gets you past any plateaus.

Right now i’m doing the following program

Bench press 205lbs 4 sets 8 reps
I’ll work towards a 6 rep attempt weight then rest to 50% next cycle

Deadlift
275lbs 2 sets 10 reps
Work towards a 5 rep max then reset to 50% of my weight

Squat: 240lbs
4 sets 8 reps - I actually got up to 285lbs on a 4 set 8 rep routine on squat. No belt, no knee sleeves. Just the valsalva manuever.
 






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@Daze
I’d definitely deload. You may have hit a plateau.
I can only go by what worked for me, but look into reset routines so you can make gains and progress again. Reseting to 50% of my attempted maxes at the end of an 8 week program has helped me.
 






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I also do incline dumbbell press
And a lot of rows when I do bench press.

I typically do deadlifts when I work core. And will also hit the hamstrings and hip weakness. Kinda like a posterior chain exclusive day paired with shoulders.

Squats I’ll thrown in lunges forward, back and sides to hit all planes of motion. I’ll also warm up with leg extensions light weight
 






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Thanks for the advice, I'll look into it.
No problem. You could be hitting a plateau especially if you’re working around 80% to 90%. That’s a lot of intensity despite the low volume. But yeah read into deloads and resets and conclude to what you feel suits you best
 






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For myself, working out is mainly maintenance. Whereas training is usually for a sport-specific (or some other) goal. Both are results-based, but each has a different goal-focus.
 






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For myself, working out is mainly maintenance. Whereas training is usually for a sport-specific (or some other) goal. Both are results-based, but each has a different goal-focus.
I’m definitely in a training mindset at the moment. Following a more hypertrophy based routine to add a little bulk for the winter while adding boxing/anerobic focused cardio to maintain some athleticism/mobility/explosiveness while I bulk
 






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I’m definitely in a training mindset at the moment. Following a more hypertrophy based routine to add a little bulk for the winter while adding boxing/anerobic focused cardio to maintain some athleticism/mobility/explosiveness while I bulk
You strict (or at least conscious) regarding your diet as well?
 






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You strict (or at least conscious) regarding your diet as well?
Eh a little. I do eat fast food. I drink monster.
I do not drink alcohol and minimal to zero soda intake.

I try to buy local produce as much as I can. Every meal I take in is protein/carb balanced. I treat fruits/veggies as antioxidant intake.
 






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So there seems to be a difference.
I’ve always trained physically with a purpose whether it was sport. I’m motivated now just because I have a neighbor who goes off the rails every few months. My dad mode goes into full protection and I train more explosive every 8 weeks.

I’ve also been training the mind.
Reading a lot more again, also clearing head space and not giving into anger as often.

So with that said.
What drives you to train?
What are your training methods?

Or

Do you just workout to workout?
Which is ok. We all start somewhere
I have to have a goal to motivate me. Lately I’ve been getting into jogging and running 5Ks it’s not much but knowing I have a “race” it prompts me to run. I haven’t done much with weights because I prefer to use machines over free weights. I like the level of control I have with the machines as well as the reduced risk of injury.
 






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