Traηsgender agenda in Kpop

diley

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What is the point of having female members in boybands? I understand mtfs in girl groups. TBH I think the number of MTF celebs is higher than that of FTMs.
One part of the agenda is to create gender confusions among ppl. That's happening in kpop.
Yes, seems like there r many mtf !
The thing is... it's really tough to analyze when it comes to East Asians. We need a deep analysis to conclude(prolly by guess). It's not that tough to find out here in South Asian countries
 

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Actually I can relate to it. I'm a female having wide forehead and big hand and feet's as compared to my cousin. She used to bully me and call me a man just because I took my dad's genes. Now her daughter has boyish features. It was very hurtful and still trigger me. Cuz I feel this kind of discussion without a reasonable expertise and foresight can trigger gender dysphoria in teens who are not comfortable with themselves. Cuz I know if I was not a millennial, I might would've thought of myself as transgender. Which is counterintuitive in a way for these discussions.
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Biological women regardless of how masculinised they're is likely going to be different from transwomen and I think they're pretty recognisable. I would say the few who pass already had major feminine features as well as right facial template and even they had to take loads of plastic surgery.
Also don't be insecure about your looks. You're awesome the way you're born!!!
 

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yes right there are more Mtf than ftm
One thing that I've noticed is that FTMs are only in groups of Big companies(or companies who have FTMs become big) but MTFs are everywhere. I won't be surprised if MTFs comprise the majority if not all in smaller companies.
 

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One part of the agenda is to create gender confusions among ppl. That's happening in kpop.
Yes, seems like there r many mtf !
The thing is... it's really tough to analyze when it comes to East Asians. We need a deep analysis to conclude(prolly by guess). It's not that tough to find out here in South Asian countries
They actually planned to eliminate the human race.
They have failed so far. They will fail.

 

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One thing that I've noticed is that FTMs are only in groups of Big companies(or companies who have FTMs become big) but MTFs are everywhere. I won't be surprised if MTFs comprise the majority if not all in smaller companies.
U got a point.
I donno much abt kpop, juz saw few kpop singrs pics. So far in my perception...most of the female singrs r more manly than male singrs. Seems like though get estrogen stimulation on, their real male anatomy still peek out !
 

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They actually planned to eliminate the human race.
They have failed so far. They will fail.

Thank u for sharing this
 

diley

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Ch@ eunw00~ Sk actor and kpop singr
He's alwys praised for his visuals.
Small skull and hour glass figure.
What do u think ?
Any thoughts ?
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One part of the agenda is to create gender confusions among ppl. That's happening in kpop.
Yes, seems like there r many mtf !
The thing is... it's really tough to analyze when it comes to East Asians. We need a deep analysis to conclude(prolly by guess). It's not that tough to find out here in South Asian countries
I think it is shocking to realise that like a huge chunk of celebs you idolised and tried to physically emulate are well.....trans. I knew about the surgical and cosmetic enhancement aspect but this one was so shocking. But Now that I know I can probably figure out who is trans and who is not easily.
 

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I looked into this too, and got an impression from looking at pictures and overall appearance. However, I am not an expert, but I am looking for visible Adams apple and male body proportions.

100% most likely a guy - Lucas, Hendery, Xiaojun, Shotaro, Kun, Ten, Jungwoo, Johnny, Yuta, Chenle, Taeyong, Doyoung, Jaehyun, Renjun, Sungchan, and Jisung.

Questionable (on the fence) - Taeil, Winwin, Yangyang, Mark

Highly possible it may be a girl - Haechan

Haechan is the only one that seems to be different from the others so far, but I could be wrong.
My analysis isn't 100% accurate since I'm not an expert. I only looked at adam's apple, shoulders to hips ration and the general vibe the members give. Also, there are different changes that happen within the body depending on hormonal therapies and at which point in their lives the boys or girls started received those hormones.

I couldn't find a pic of Taeil with a visible adam's apple.
Taeyong's adam's apple is also not very visible, and he's also very feminine in his looks, but his shoulders and hips ration sort of look like a man. Same for YangYang.
I would've bet good money on Ten, but his adam's apple is visible in many pics and his shoulders are wider than his hips. Ten looks quite feminine to me. Literally same for Kun.
I can't really see an adam's apple in Jaehyun, but the rest of his body looks masculine.
WinWin gives me major feminine vibes, doesn't have a visible adam's apple and his shoulder to hips ration is 1:1
Jungwoo's face screams female, but he's got big masculine shoulders and a quite masculine overall built.
Mark also doesn't have a visible adam's apple in most pics. He gives masculine vibes, but I'm not sure what to say of his body.
Xiaojun looks feminine and his hips are a bit wider than men normally have (shoulder to hips ration is almost 1:1, but not quite), but has adam's apple.
Renjun looks feminine, but his body proportions are fine and does have a visible adam's apple.
Haechan doesn't have a visible adam's apple, his shoulders are wide, but so are his hips. Also his spine has a bit of curvature, which men usually don't have.
Chenle has hips a bit wider than men usually have. His adam's apple isn't that visible.
Shotaro has adam's apple and fine body propotions, but has body curvature. His face is also quite feminine.


Conclusion:

Taeil and Haechan may be.
Taeyong, WinWin, Xiaojun, Chenle, YangYang, Shotaro could be, but I'm not sure.
I have no idea regarding what to say about Kun, Ten, Jungwoo, Mark.
Johnny, Yuta. Doyoung, Jaehyun, Lucas, Hendery, Renjun, Jeno, Jaemin, Sungchan, Jisung most likely aren't.
YangYang Taeil and Haechan have had photos from their childhood that make them look like girls and not even that androgynous. I am myself Asian and I know how Asian kids look like in childhood and grow up to look like. Yes we have less sexual dimorphism but that doesn't mean that men and women aren't genetically distinct.
Winwin is a guy I know a person who looks like him personally.
Mark is weird but he is probably a guy
Jungwoo they tried making him look like his childhood photo but if you see his predebuts he looked completely different initially. I won't be surprised if he gets hormone treatments because his voice too high and it's not possible for men to have such a high voice unless mtf hrt and/or chemical castration.
 

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One thing that I've noticed is that FTMs are only in groups of Big companies(or companies who have FTMs become big) but MTFs are everywhere. I won't be surprised if MTFs comprise the majority if not all in smaller companies.
yes the Big 3 have many hidden trans in their companies, maybe because they are more into the occult than small companies
 

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i think Momo could be one of them , don't know about Rv , i suspected Irene , but she's very tiny to be an mtf
I think Mina can be one too Jeongyeon was hinted to be male and her family looks weird. And she supposedly had a male name which looked different than her sisters and her childhood photos look male too.
In RV Wendy looks like a suspect too.
In SNSD supposedly Taeyeon is trans but I need more information on that
 
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