The typical wh*re "female empowerment" thingy that's been going around and still is.

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Read this - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56969187

By that I mean, (by the title), that it's "empowering" for a female to act promiscious and well, when she seeks validation from men, it's not seen as wrong. They wants us girls and women of value to act like sl*ts. That's why some bad men think (to this day we're s*x objects) *sigh* :( Gen Z is doomed + Why do these folks look up to these people???
 
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(Why) do these folks look up to these people???
They get the most airplay, and it is loaded with positive reinforcement.

The article says Miss Eilish has had "bad experiences" out there, due to the sexual misconduct of others-- but the details are hers. OK... then they stuff her into a satin and plastic casing (outfit?), with the advisory...

It's all about
what makes you feel good.
B EILISH

Ahh... the 60s redux. :rolleyes:

Does that apply to anyone who may be interested in the "sexual misconduct" discussed in the article, as well?

(I THINK IT DOES... THERES NO DISCLAIMER)
 

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WTF is empowering about the title of the article you linked?

The title was something like "Sexual misconduct is everywhere". Which seems like a call to action to me. Not to be slutty, but to put pressure on the lazy bastards that are supposed to be enforcing laws.

Law enforcement is typically pencil dick lightweights who can't solve a crime that doesn't land in their laps.
 
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They get the most airplay, and it is loaded with positive reinforcement.

The article says Miss Eilish has had "bad experiences" out there, due to the sexual misconduct of others-- but the details are hers. OK... then they stuff her into a satin and plastic casing (outfit?), with the advisory...

It's all about
what makes you feel good.
B EILISH

Ahh... the 60s redux. :rolleyes:

Does that apply to anyone who may be interested in the "sexual misconduct" discussed in the article, as well?

(I THINK IT DOES... THERES NO DISCLAIMER)
It's not right. "That's what makes you feel good". What makes you feel good? For you to feel uncomfortable for your body to be seen as a sex object? Gross. That's how so many children get groomed, men and women get tricked and/or heartbroken, as well as raped and abused.
 
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WTF is empowering about the title of the article you linked?

The title was something like "Sexual misconduct is everywhere". Which seems like a call to action to me. Not to be slutty, but to put pressure on the lazy bastards that are supposed to be enforcing laws.

Law enforcement is typically pencil dick lightweights who can't solve a crime that doesn't land in their laps.
Ahh, the classic, usual, "Imma show my body, idc if I'm a sl*t for that, boys look at me the wrong way because I'm seeking validation hiding under that 'I'm just being confident' mask and if they behave inappropriately towards me, grab my a*s or whatever, it's on them not me". Like, can you not shed layers for anyone? ._. Bruh
 
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Ahh, the classic, usual, "Imma show my body, idk if I'm a sl*t for that, boys look at me the wrong way because I'm seeking validation hiding under that 'I'm just being confident' mask and if they behave inappropriately towards me, grab my a*s or whatever, it's on them not me". Like, can you not shed layers for anyone? ._. Bruh
With that level of victim blaming, you would make a good judge.
 
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Read this - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56969187

By that I mean, (by the title), that it's "empowering" for a female to act promiscious and well, when she seeks validation from men, it's not seen as wrong. They wants us girls and women of value to act like sl*ts. That's why some bad men think (to this day we're s*x objects) *sigh* :( Gen Z is doomed + Why do these folks look up to these people???

I saw a quote not long ago and it really made me think

''Conservative men see women as private property, while liberal men see women as public property''

I believe this is very true, and in extention women and girls are being taught the same thing. They are being taught to be private property is bad ( which i agree) but instead of being taught to be their own person they are being taught to be public property.
 

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I saw a quote not long ago and it really made me think

''Conservative men see women as private property, while liberal men see women as public property''

I believe this is very true, and in extention women and girls are being taught the same thing. They are being taught to be private property is bad ( which i agree) but instead of being taught to be their own person they are being taught to be public property.
How exactly are they public property? What does that even mean? Honest question.
 

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She used to be all loose clothing, it's not about my body - but her talent. Now her team *cough* handlers, have given the Monroe programming?

Next year or a little later it'll be another theme or agenda to push.

Britney, Madonna, Gaga, Beyonce, Katy, Taylor, Miley... they're all the same.
 

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How exactly are they public property? What does that even mean? Honest question.
It means that in order to be seen as culturally relevant, performers must wallow in their sexuality in their PUBLIC personas and activities: on stage, in videos, photos, in their songs, rather than keeping it to themselves and sharing it only with their intimate partners. It means that the general PUBLIC is presented with the idea that this should be construed as "normal," and young people are taught that this admirable, and worth emulating. Displaying more modest/chaste attitudes and behaviors is considered uncool, prude, even socially backwards.

Is it "progress" to act shameless, immoral and engage in risky sexual behavior? Of course not, yet that is what the PTB want us to believe. Then we are left to wrestle, both individually and collectively, with a veritable maze of cognitive dissonances embodied in such a philosophy, and the destructive effects it can have on both individual (female AND male) psyches and our collective definitions of what is and is not acceptable.

This is, in part, why our society is currently undergoing such extreme paroxyms of social change. As we redefine sex, sexuality, gender and the social roles and responsibilities attached to all of these concepts, including and especially in the Public Domain, we have a real opportunity to build a new paradigm that both encompasses and transcends these issues.

But consensus on this cannot be found by pandering to the Lowest Common Denominator. If we are to truly empower our girls, and give healthier guidance to our boys, they need to be taught to be gentle with each other (and themselves!). Overly aggressive behavior on either side will lead to people getting hurt, just like in the millions of generations before them. I get the sense that in the past, girls were overly-burdened with the responsibilities part, and for boys it was barely touched upon, and in that, we have already made remarkable headway.
Destigmatizing the use of condoms in the 80's/90's gave men/boys and women/girls an equal chance to act responsibly in matters of sex. That is the momentum that I (for one) would like to see continue.

If anything, having some pop tart writhe around on a stage with no pants on is a clear step backward, not forward, on the journey to true sexual equality. Regardless of how she chooses to present herself to the world, I wish for the best for the talented Miss Eilish, and hope that she can retain control over her own sexuality and autonomy. If what has happened to poor Brittany Spears is any indication, she has an uphill battle on her hands.
 

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It means that in order to be seen as culturally relevant, performers must wallow in their sexuality in their PUBLIC personas and activities: on stage, in videos, photos, in their songs, rather than keeping it to themselves and sharing it only with their intimate partners. It means that the general PUBLIC is presented with the idea that this should be construed as "normal," and young people are taught that this admirable, and worth emulating. Displaying more modest/chaste attitudes and behaviors is considered uncool, prude, even socially backwards.

Is it "progress" to act shameless, immoral and engage in risky sexual behavior? Of course not, yet that is what the PTB want us to believe. Then we are left to wrestle, both individually and collectively, with a veritable maze of cognitive dissonances embodied in such a philosophy, and the destructive effects it can have on both individual (female AND male) psyches and our collective definitions of what is and is not acceptable.

This is, in part, why our society is currently undergoing such extreme paroxyms of social change. As we redefine sex, sexuality, gender and the social roles and responsibilities attached to all of these concepts, including and especially in the Public Domain, we have a real opportunity to build a new paradigm that both encompasses and transcends these issues.

But consensus on this cannot be found by pandering to the Lowest Common Denominator. If we are to truly empower our girls, and give healthier guidance to our boys, they need to be taught to be gentle with each other (and themselves!). Overly aggressive behavior on either side will lead to people getting hurt, just like in the millions of generations before them. I get the sense that in the past, girls were overly-burdened with the responsibilities part, and for boys it was barely touched upon, and in that, we have already made remarkable headway.
Destigmatizing the use of condoms in the 80's/90's gave men/boys and women/girls an equal chance to act responsibly in matters of sex. That is the momentum that I (for one) would like to see continue.

If anything, having some pop tart writhe around on a stage with no pants on is a clear step backward, not forward, on the journey to true sexual equality. Regardless of how she chooses to present herself to the world, I wish for the best for the talented Miss Eilish, and hope that she can retain control over her own sexuality and autonomy. If what has happened to poor Brittany Spears is any indication, she has an uphill battle on her hands.
So... yeah. With PUBLIC females. The quote I was questioning was referring to the proposed liberal opinion that all females were public property. And I’m not sure how that works out for women who aren’t in the public eye.
 

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Ahh, the classic, usual, "Imma show my body, idc if I'm a sl*t for that, boys look at me the wrong way because I'm seeking validation hiding under that 'I'm just being confident' mask and if they behave inappropriately towards me, grab my a*s or whatever, it's on them not me", anyone te. Like, can you not shed layers for anyone? ._. Bruh
I am all for dressing modestly but even if I saw a hot lady dressed sexy it wouldn't make me grab her ass or r*pe her or call her a slut. I would get hot blooded, sure, but us men are not mindless drones, we are capable of holding back. In fact, holding back isn't really that hard. So it is on them. Here I agree with miss Eilish, even if her words may be a PR thing. What I rarely agree with is the definition of sexiness. That unnatural Monroe look never felt sexy to me. Neither does the Kardashian standard.
 
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How exactly are they public property? What does that even mean? Honest question.
Because instead of being told they should save their bodies for their husbands (private property) They should dress and act like porn stars. Girls are told they are their to service men, to be sex objects, they are a product to pass around. young girls believe their body hair is unnatural. In the UK there is an epidemic of girls being sexually abused by male students, because boys and girls are being taught that girls are a sexual product not human beings deserving of respect.


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So... yeah. With PUBLIC females. The quote I was questioning was referring to the proposed liberal opinion that all females were public property. And I’m not sure how that works out for women who aren’t in the public eye.
Young girls are being told they must perform pornographic acts on boys lest they be seen as conservative/prude. Look at any music video, kids show, advertising, women are an item to sell products and tantalise men. Just look at the current gender cult. Women and girls are reduced to a feeling, lesbians are told they have to sleep with men who say they are women or they are bigots. Girls are reporting performing pornographic acts at younger and younger ages. Liberal men arent progressive they are just another form of misogyny, they see women as public property to service their sexual needs
 

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Young girls are being told they must perform pornographic acts on boys lest they be seen as conservative/prude. Look at any music video, kids show, advertising, women are an item to sell products and tantalise men. Just look at the current gender cult. Women and girls are reduced to a feeling, lesbians are told they have to sleep with men who say they are women or they are bigots. Girls are reporting performing pornographic acts at younger and younger ages. Liberal men arent progressive they are just another form of misogyny, they see women as public property to service their sexual needs
Another point is what does progressive trans ideology target: manhood or womanhood? Where are men reduced to their reproductive functions? Where are male spaces being invaded? Where is language referring to men being manipulated to include biological women?
 
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What Billie Eilish is wearing in the vogue cover isn't even that revealing. It's just...more "womanly" and sexier than what she's usually wearing.
You're making a thread saying she's a whore for dressing a certain way and discredit her claim about sexual misconduct, you don't see the irony here?? Because she's literally saying in her article that women's immodesty shouldn't be grounds for discrediting their claims abt sexual assualt or a way to blame them for being assaulted.
I'm sorry but if you make the claim that women who wear revealing clothing are "asking for it", then you're calling men violent predators who can't control their base instincts. You are indirectly insulting men.
Billie Eilish is pushing the "sexy, Marilyn Monroe" sex object persona-agenda-thing to make girls think it is acceptable for young girls to put out their promiscuity.
 
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I am all for dressing modestly but even if I saw a hot lady dressed sexy it wouldn't make me grab her ass or r*pe her or call her a slut. I would get hot blooded, sure, but us men are not mindless drones, we are capable of holding back. In fact, holding back isn't really that hard. So it is on them. Here I agree with miss Eilish, even if her words may be a PR thing. What I rarely agree with is the definition of sexiness. That unnatural Monroe look never felt sexy to me. Neither does the Kardashian standard.
OFC! My point was, you can be modest and look "hot", I'm in for that, it's just the idea that if you behave promisciously, strip clothes to the point you look like a wh*re, it's "empowering" but it supports the sexist thought that "women are objects". Take a look at tiktokers who preach about "women not being objects", next they start twerking, behaving "promisciously" it's true they are not objects, however, we can't contradict ourselves.
 
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What Billie Eilish is wearing in the vogue cover isn't even that revealing. It's just...more "womanly" and sexier than what she's usually wearing.
You're making a thread saying she's a whore for dressing a certain way and discredit her claim about sexual misconduct, you don't see the irony here?? Because she's literally saying in her article that women's immodesty shouldn't be grounds for discrediting their claims abt sexual assualt or a way to blame them for being assaulted.
I'm sorry but if you make the claim that women who wear revealing clothing are "asking for it", then you're calling men violent predators who can't control their base instincts. You are indirectly insulting men.
So you're saying that if one dress, like, well not decently, to seek male validation, and a guy comments something prude and disgusting, it's not on them? I mean it applies to both ways, I hope I'm not sounding like I'm controlling. We have to look after ourselves so people don't well objectify us.

And as for Eilish, she claimed she wore baggy clothing to prevent sexualisation + she had body issues (she didn't like her body, body dysmorphia perhaps), now she's saying, "Idk if you lot get sexualised and objectified for acting like sl*ts", it's what makes us feel good.

I'm sorry?? What???
 
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Link for Taylor?
She used to be all loose clothing, it's not about my body - but her talent. Now her team *cough* handlers, have given the Monroe programming?

Next year or a little later it'll be another theme or agenda to push.

Britney, Madonna, Gaga, Beyonce, Katy, Taylor, Miley... they're all the same.
 
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