A Freeman
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The word "Satan" is Hebrew and means "the Opposer".I decided to respond to this.
You're right God is not a liar. And I will never say or imply He is. Ever heard of the first and second commandments of God's eternal law? The first says, "I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. “You shall have no other gods before Me" (Exodus 20:2-3). That includes ourselves. The second says, "You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments" (Exodus 20:4-6). Is God suggesting we break His commandments? Something He warns us not to do from the Old to the New Testament? Christ goes as far as telling us if we love Him, we should keep His commandments.
You have misunderstood Psalm 82 and John 10:34-38 and the meaning of the word "gods".
These so called gods are rebuked in Psalm 82 so this means they are a rebellious people while exercising God's attribute of judging so this Psalm is ultimately drawing a picture of God Judging the wicked judges.
Psalm 82:5-6 says, "They do not know, nor do they understand; They walk about in darkness; All the foundations of the earth are unstable. I said, “You are gods, And all of you are children of the Most High."
Jesus used this term in John 10:34 speaking of the Jewish leaders lording it over the common people as if they were gods (non capitalised). “You are gods." Psalm 82 is an arraignment of unjust judges, spoken of as "gods". This and nowhere else in the Bible does it suggest that men are divine. Though we were made in His image, we certainly do not possess the attributes of God. God is omnipotent (all powerful), He’s omnipresent (everywhere), and He’s omniscient (knows all things). Humans are neither omniscient, omnipresent, or omnipotent. They aren’t anything like the one true God. In addition, God is self-existent and eternal, whereas man is not.
Rabbinical tradition applied the term "gods" to those who received the law: "The Israelites accepted the Torah only so that the Angel of Death should have no dominion over them (Psalm 82:6-7). Jesus made His reply in terms of this tradition.
Remember Satan tried to replace God and we know where that ended up! One fairly popular religion teaches that we can become gods and goddesses if we try hard enough. The Bible declares that the saints will become priests and kings and then only by the blood of Jesus Christ and not our works. I choose to believe the Bible, not some man made doctrine that teaches otherwise.
And connecting it to the false book of Enoch is wrong because it is a mixture of truth and error (mostly error) and that will always make it a false book. I posted some of the lies from the book of Enoch in my thread "The Giants/Nephilim in the Bible." I'll repost some of those lies here.
Paul tells us that we need to love the truth (the whole truth not just some of it) to survive the end time events, “and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved" (2 Thessalonians 2:10).
Paul also describes the opposite of having the love of the truth as having “itching ears.” “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables” (2 Timothy 4:3-4).
When anyone says the exact opposite of what it actually says in Scripture, they are obviously seeing things upside down and backwards, through human eyes, as you undoubtedly are. And as long as someone is seeing and reading with human eyes instead of spiritual eyes, their nonsensical explanations will be the work of Satan.
Satan works THROUGH the flesh (human).
The human can be tempted with worldly/materialistic treasures and pleasures. A human can NEVER keep God's Law/Commandments, nor can it understand ANYTHING spiritual, because all of these things are spiritual and thus foreign to the human. It therefore should be self-evident that the human, controlled and motivated by God's Enemy/Opposer (Satan) to serve its "self" can NEVER please nor serve God (Rom. 8:5-8).
God works THROUGH the spirit-Being (Soul).
Doing God's Will requires being reborn as one's true, SPIRITUAL self (John 3:3-7), KNOWING that one is an immortal spirit-Being that is only temporarily incarnated inside the human animal body that is seen in the mirror. Without doing this it is IMPOSSIBLE to even see the Kingdom of God, much less be able to enter it, exactly as Christ has plainly stated.
The "explanation" that you've offered is from a decidedly human perspective, which is why it's in obvious ERROR, as it is trying to claim that passage is somehow saying the exact opposite of what it actually says.
Read Psalm 82:5-6 that you've quoted AGAIN, this time with SPIRITUAL EYES.
Psalm 82:5-6 says, "They do not know, nor do they understand; They walk about in darkness; All the foundations of the earth are unstable. I said, “You are gods, And all of you are children of the Most High."
"They" is referring to anyone who doesn't understand that we are spiritual-Beings/Souls/gods/angels, that are temporarily incarnating human animal bodies (John 3:19-21). Anyone who doesn't KNOW this, is walking around in darkness (not knowing their own "self"). ALL of the foundations of the earth (world) are unstable, because they offer nothing more than a materialistic human perspective.
The TRUTH is then repeated: "I" (one unto whom the Word of God came) said: Ye ARE gods (spirit-Beings/Souls/Angels/sons of God), and all of you are children of the Most High.
God does NOT have human children (Num. 23:19). God's Children/Created Offspring are spirit-Beings/Souls/Angels/gods (aka the sons of God/children of the Most High), beginning with Prince Michael/Christ, EXACTLY as God Himself has said.
Christ, through the mouth of Jesus, quoted Psalm 82:6 to illustrate that stating the TRUTH -- that we ARE gods/the Sons of God/Sons of The Most High, just as He (Christ) IS the Son of God -- is repeated throughout Scripture.
Further, and with regard to Enoch, why would anyone try to discredit a prophet of God or their testimony? Enoch is the ONLY one God ever "translated" (changed from one state, location, form to another) because ENOCH'S TESTIMONY PLEASED GOD.
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
Why would anyone in their right mind attack and attempt to discredit Enoch's testimony -- found in the Book of Enoch -- if it pleased God?
Anyone who says the exact opposite of what God says, is obviously working for Satan, and doesn't know what they're talking about.
STOP IT!
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