You're still attacking the messenger rather than addressing the message of truth from THE God.Take that !
a person who is not expert in Arabic says understands Arabic Quran and Muslims, whether Arab or non-Arab and since 1400 years, do not understand something written in Arabic.
Isn't that rather hypocritical of you, since you have contributed absolutely nothing to this thread other than insults? Your inability to refute even a single point that's been shared stands as proof of the truth being shared in the article, for everyone's benefit (including yours).Amazing how you feel the need to argue everything.
You don't really have a point though, do you? Is this really cause for concern or simply your "self" arguing more utter nonsense?My point stands. Koran is wrong and every one with an ounce of Arabic knowledge would agree.
I too found this uncomfortable. always put it down to being a fraud / lazy Christian so too ashamed to attend.The reason it felt so uncomfortable is because only heathens and hypocrites go to churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, etc. to be seen by others, according to God and His Christ.
Matthew 6:5-8
6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt NOT be as the hypocrites [ARE]: for they love to pray standing in the churches and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward (they have been seen by men, but God will not answer them).
6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and WHEN THOU HAST SHUT THY DOOR, pray to thy Father IN PRIVATE (Enoch 56:5; Sura 7:55); and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly (by answering you).
6:7 But when ye pray, use NOT vain repetitions, as the heathen [DO]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
6:8 Be NOT ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, BEFORE ye ask Him.
Of course the disciples and apostles reiterated Christ's condemnation of the churches, etc., with their priests, pastors, rabbis and imams (fake teachers).
Acts 7:48 Howbeit the Most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,
Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that He is Lord of heaven and Earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
As does the Koran (Quran):
Sura 4:142. The Hypocrites - they think they are over-reaching God, but He will over-reach them: when they stand up to prayer, they stand without earnestness, to be seen by men (Matt. 6:5), only little do they hold God in remembrance;
Sura 7:55. Call on your Lord with HUMILITY and in PRIVATE (Enoch 56:5; Matt. 6:6): for "I AM" loveth not those who trespass beyond bounds.
Sura 9:107-111
9:107. And there are those who put up mosques (churches; synagogues; etc.), by way of mischief and BETRAYAL - to disunite the Believers - and in preparation for one who warred against "I AM" (Revelation 12:7) and His Messenger aforetime. They will indeed swear that their intention is nothing but good; but "I AM" doth declare that they are certainly LIARS.
9:108. NEVER stand thou forth therein. There is an Holy Place (Mt. Moriah) whose foundation was laid from the first day on piety; it is more worthy of the standing forth (for prayer) therein. In it are men who love to be purified; and "I AM" loveth those who make themselves pure.
9:109. Which then is best? - he that layeth his foundation on piety (a Rock - Matthew 7:24-27) to "I AM" and His Good Pleasure? - or he that layeth his foundation on an undermined sand-cliff ready to crumble to pieces? And it doth crumble to pieces with him, into The Fire of Hell. And "I AM" guideth not people that do wrong (if they are doing wrong Satan is guiding them).
9:110. The foundation of those who so build is never free from suspicion and shakiness in their hearts, until their hearts are cut to pieces. And "I AM" is All-Knowing, Wise.
9:111. "I AM" hath purchased from the Believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is The Garden (of Bliss): they fight in His Cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in Truth, through The Law (The Torah), The Gospel (New Testament/Covenant), and The Koran: and who is more faithful to His Covenant (in the Bible) than "I AM"? Then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded (to fulfill The Covenant of "I AM" written in the Bible): that is the achievement supreme.
Sura 33:33. And stay quietly IN YOUR HOUSES (Sura 9:107-111), and make not a dazzling display, like that of the former Times of Ignorance (Sura 4:142, Sura 7:55); and establish constant Prayer (1 Thes. 5:17), and give regular Charity (Matt. 6:1-8); and obey "I AM" and His Messenger. And "I AM" only wishes to remove all abomination from you, ye Members of the Family, and to make you pure and spotless (Matt. 5:8).
Sura 107:5-6
107:5. Who are neglectful of their Prayers,
107:6. Those who (want only) to be seen (by men - Matt. 6:5),
Interesting note about the title "Jesus": it means "Saviour" or, more specifically "YHWH Saves".
John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the Will of the Father which hath sent me.
You copied that from submission.org just like you did in the five prayers thread. Why don't you quote the references too? Or did you realise that you can't at once claim that the hadeeth are false, and then quote hadeeth themselves to evidence that claim? So you can't say 'Muhammad (peace be upon him) specified', because by diregarding ahadeeth you don't know what he ﷺ specified.No one needs to translate the Hadith. Every copy of the Hadith should be pulped and recycled into copies of the Koran (Quran), exactly as Mohammad (peace be upon him) specified.
Ibn Saeed Al-Khudry reported that God's messenger had said:
"Do not write anything from me EXCEPT QURAN. Anyone who wrote anything other than the Quran shall erase it."
From Ibn Hanbal: Zayd Ibn Thabit (The apostle's closest revelation writer) visited the Khalifa Mu'aawiyah (more than 30 years after the apostle's death), and told him a story about the apostle. Mu'aawiyah liked the story and ordered someone to write it down. But Zayd said:
"the messenger of God ORDERED us NEVER to write anything of his hadith"
Again, in the book "Taq-yeed Al-Ilm", Abu Saeed Al-Khudry said:
"I asked the messenger of God a permission to write his hadiths, BUT HE REFUSED TO GIVE ME A PERMISSION."
A distinction is drawn between writing hadeeth and narrating hadeeth; the former is forbidden at this point in time, the latter is permitted. Thus the prohibition on the writing of hadeeth is not on account of negating its authority - that would be a non-sequitur assumption.Abu Sa'id Khudri reported that Messenger of Allah ﷺ said: Do not take down anything from me, and he who took down anything from me except the Qur'an, he should efface that and narrate from me, for there is no harm in it and he who attributed any falsehood to me-and Hammam said: I think he also said:" deliberately" -he should in fact find his abode in the Hell-Fire.
Sura 5:4. Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat (Lev. 22:8, Deut. 14:21), blood (Lev. 3:17, Lev. 17:10-11), the flesh of swine (Deut. 14:8), and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than "I AM" (Num. 25:1-3); that which hath been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; that which hath been (partly) eaten by a wild animal (Lev. 22:8); unless ye are able to slaughter it (in due form) that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows: that is impiety. This day have those who reject Faith given up all hope of your religion: yet fear them not, but fear Me (Matt. 10:28). THIS DAY* I have perfected your religion for you, COMPLETED My favour upon you, and have chosen for YOU, submission to My will, as your religion (Matt. 6:9-13). But if any is forced by hunger, with no inclination to transgression, "I AM" is indeed Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.At-Tirmidhi (2658) narrated from ‘Abdullah ibn Mas‘ood that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “May Allah beautify a man who hears a saying of mine, so he understands it, remembers it and conveys it. There may be one who conveys knowledge to someone who understands it better than he does.”
Al-Bazzaar (3416) narrated from Muhammad ibn Jubayr ibn Mut‘im, from his father (may Allah be pleased with him), from the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) that he said: “May Allah beautify a man who hears a saying of mine, so he memorises it and conveys it as he heard it.”
Then why do you insist on disobeying him? Do you have a death wish?The fact that the Prophet forbade writing of hadeeth in the earliest part of Prophethood is not hidden. It is in fact well-known.
If we are to believe what you copied from that website, Zayd bin Thabit would have met Muaawiya three years after he had died. How that's possible, I don't know. But since you believe that reincarnation is an irrefutable fact, taught by both the Bible and the Quran, perhaps you can explain. Also, respond to every point, not one selection that you're taking out of the context of my argument. If you actually read what I said, the prohibition on writing was later lifted; but the practices of narration, dictations, discussion and practice were always occurring, and ordered by the Prophet. Do you learn something and not act on it?Then why do you insist on disobeying him? Do you have a death wish?
Why would i contribute to a thread of ignorance? I mean seriously. I rather loathe posting here because it pushes it back up top.Isn't that rather hypocritical of you, since you have contributed absolutely nothing to this thread other than insults? Your inability to refute even a single point that's been shared stands as proof of the truth being shared in the article, for everyone's benefit (including yours).
Regarding your regurgitation of the false claims made on websites (fighting to defend partnering with God's Message other writings that God has prohibited upon pain of death) like the following one:If we are to believe what you copied from that website, Zayd bin Thabit would have met Muaawiya three years after he had died. How that's possible, I don't know. But since you believe that reincarnation is an irrefutable fact, taught by both the Bible and the Quran, perhaps you can explain. Also, respond to every point, not one selection that you're taking out of the context of my argument. If you actually read what I said, the prohibition on writing was later lifted; but the practices of narration, dictations, discussion and practice were always occurring, and ordered by the Prophet. Do you learn something and not act on it?
In my opinion A Freemen has kept it as simple as possible. The Scriptures are for the souls controlling the human beings, not for the actual human being.I am interested in this one however.
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Think you can elaborate on the 2nd quote? That is without making a dozen quotes from scripture making the post essentially unreadable. Clear and concise, use the KISS principle.
If revelation was not made for mankind, then for who is it intended for?
Perfectly honest? Please.Why would i contribute to a thread of ignorance? I mean seriously. I rather loathe posting here because it pushes it back up top.
Just like Kias thread "who Muslims really worship". Lots of ignorance there too, but for me to refute it only pushes it back up for all to see.
I''d rather a thread such as this one get no replies and just die in obscurity to be perfectly honest.
If by "attacking" you mean posting the truth about the organized religion that deceitfully calls itself "Islam", the reason for sharing this truth with others should be painfully obvious: to help others awaken to the truth, before it's too late and they too find themselves in The Fire on Judgment Day. Exactly as you've already been personally told several times (and chosen to ignore).Why are you attacking Islam?
How many times must it be posted that ALL organized religion was created by Lucifer/Satan/Iblis to keep people AWAY from God? ALL means ALL (as in every single one).Not Hinduism, Sikhism, Shintoism, Buddhism, (insert 50 other ism's here).
To serve others by providing them with the truth and a loving warning while they still have time to do something about it.What is your goal Freeman?
You're viewing what's been shared through human eyes, which see everything upside down and backwards. Everyone on this planet has been deceived, and most are still being deceived for this very reason.I could attack many religions but there is no gain in it. What is your purpose with this thread? Do you really think you can misguide those being lead by the Almighty? Clearly you do. Preach about your own faith, what do you hope to gain by attacking others?
It was already elaborated on with ONE passage from John 3:3-7 in the same post, which "friend" decided to omit so they could feign ignorance and waste everyone's time.I am interested in this one however.
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Think you can elaborate on the 2nd quote? That is without making a dozen quotes from scripture making the post essentially unreadable. Clear and concise, use the KISS principle.
That too was answered in the same post, and likewise intentionally omitted.If revelation was not made for mankind, then for who is it intended for?
I see, well the soul is the human being. This flesh is nothing but a carcass. On death the soul is removed and the body becomes lifeless. The body is buried while the soul is moved to another plane known as the barzakh.In my opinion A Freemen has kept it as simple as possible. The Scriptures are for the souls controlling the human beings, not for the actual human being.
Thatta' boy, Tidal. Spread the ignorance and hate as you usually do.
Mate, where in my argument did I say that their lifespans did not overlap. That wasn't the argument. The argument was that Zayd ibn Thabit (may Allah have mercy on him رحمه الله) died before Muawiyah رحمه الله came to power as Khalif. The narration specifically stipulates this alleged encounter occurred, and I quote, "more than 30 years after the Prophet's ﷺ death", when Muaawiya was the Khalif (leader) of the Muslims:Please see for yourself that the lifespans of those two individuals clearly overlapped.
From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zayd_ibn_Thabit
b. 610 AD
d. 660 AD
From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muawiyah_I
b. 597, 603 or 605 AD
d. 680 AD
Also, unless a source with an authentic chain of narration has been provided in a book of hadith for this alleged encounter, not to mention an actual date, I am not inclined to take it as fact.Zionist-controlled Wikipedia and dictionaries—which are all WRONG
Thatta' boy, Tidal. Spread the ignorance and hate as you usually do.