The Sun Revolves Around the Earth

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Honestly, I consider VCF as a platform for whatever I want it to be a platform for. I want whoever comes here to be exposed to questioning heliocentrism... at least until I get bored with this topic.
 





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That's a false statement... there are plenty of transitional fossils. And every fossil can be considered to be a transitional fossil. Also, animals don't just magically transform into a different species, they still remain a part of their genetic lineage. An evolved frog won't magically turn into a completely different animal like a rabbit... it will become a new type of frog suited to it's environment.
No, there aren’t any transitional fossils. Just a bunch of arrogant scientist being visually misleading. There’s been multiple evolutionist who have admitted themselves there’s no transitional fossils. They’ve even been caught falsifying evidence, pretty desperate. I agree species don’t evolve into new ones but that’s not what evolutionists argue. The entire premise of their argument is that all life came from a single ancestor and modified itself over time driven by a will or need to survive by adapting.
 





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Lmao Haeckel is a known fraud but it looks like someone above me already addresses that so we don’t need to go over it again. There isn’t overwhelming evidence for evolution, just a lot desperate attempts to keep a dead theory alive. Similarities between species don’t prove anything just so we’re clear. Any similarities are due to the mind that created it. We share 60% genetic similarities with a banana plant even though we don’t express ourselves similarly to bananas in the slightest. At the rate microorganisms reproduce and mutate we should have been able to at least observe the creation of a new species by now. Evolution perpetuates and is built on racism. Everyone focuses on animals but forget that the rise of evolution in the 19th century just reinforced racism encouraging white people to believe they were more evolved and superior than the ape like black people. Also evolution goes against the logical and observable order of the universe. The universe isn’t in a crescendo, we’re in a decrescendo....we’re getting worse not better. It would truly be miraculous for life to randomly arise on its own. It’s even more amazing that people use logic and reason to argue that the universe doesn’t exist under a logical order but is all just conveniently accurate random chances that just needed time. Order clearly comes from an intelligent designer. To look at painting or read poetry and assume no one wrote it but it formed itself is just intellectually dishonest.
 





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Lmao Haeckel is a known fraud but it looks like someone above me already addresses that so we don’t need to go over it again. There isn’t overwhelming evidence for evolution, just a lot desperate attempts to keep a dead theory alive. Similarities between species don’t prove anything just so we’re clear. Any similarities are due to the mind that created it. We share 60% genetic similarities with a banana plant even though we don’t express ourselves similarly to bananas in the slightest. At the rate microorganisms reproduce and mutate we should have been able to at least observe the creation of a new species by now. Evolution perpetuates and is built on racism. Everyone focuses on animals but forget that the rise of evolution in the 19th century just reinforced racism encouraging white people to believe they were more evolved and superior than the ape like black people. Also evolution goes against the logical and observable order of the universe. The universe isn’t in a crescendo, we’re in a decrescendo....we’re getting worse not better. It would truly be miraculous for life to randomly arise on its own. It’s even more amazing that people use logic and reason to argue that the universe doesn’t exist under a logical order but is all just conveniently accurate random chances that just needed time. Order clearly comes from an intelligent designer. To look at painting or read poetry and assume no one wrote it but it formed itself is just intellectually dishonest.
https://biologos.org/resources/audio-visual/where-are-the-transitional-fossils

I’ve addressed the Haeckel issue and it isn’t nearly the fraud that anti-evolutionists want to make it sound.

The Bible is a huge justification for racism so does that discredit it?

We are getting worse because modern science and society allows people with traits like vision issues to survive.
 





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If anyone is desperate it’s the absurd claims made by “creation science” and Young Earth Creationists who fundamentally misunderstand numerous branches of science and are perpetually caught falsifying data and trying to shoehorn facts to conform with biblical literalism.
 





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https://biologos.org/resources/audio-visual/where-are-the-transitional-fossils

I’ve addressed the Haeckel issue and it isn’t nearly the fraud that anti-evolutionists want to make it sound.

The Bible is a huge justification for racism so does that discredit it?

We are getting worse because modern science and society allows people with traits like vision issues to survive.
It’s misleading and fraudulent. It’s not the only evolution fraud there’s plenty that were accepted as truth for years sometimes only to be discovered as deliberate frauds (Pittman, Java man, Nebraska man, Archaeoraptor [which may have been an honest mistake]). Science is supposed to be unbiased, measurable, and observable. If those rules were applied to evolution people would have abandoned the theory a long time ago but it’s the best explanation they have so they’ll keep alive by any means necessary.

False, there isn’t anything in the Bible that promotes or encourages racism it’s literal the opposite. People can abuse anything to make a point but it makes a huge difference when the source of the information has been found to have racist propaganda.

Vision issues don’t kill people, just makes life harder. Helen Keller was deaf and blind and still was an accomplished woman. Modern science keeps people alive longer but isn’t stopping mutations in the gene pool from happening. It just helps people manage their illnesses better and you can screen for abnormalities so it would actually improve it more than make it worse. It will even more so after whatever they’re collecting all the 23 and me dna for comes about.
 





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If anyone is desperate it’s the absurd claims made by “creation science” and Young Earth Creationists who fundamentally misunderstand numerous branches of science and are perpetually caught falsifying data and trying to shoehorn facts to conform with biblical literalism.
Yes colonel it’s absurd to believe a universe that works under logic was created by a logical mind. That a world with beauty and symmetry just knew how to do that all on its own. It’s totally not absurd to believe life created itself by chance but wasn’t intelligent to give itself everything it needed in the first place, just needed time is all.
 





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Yes colonel it’s absurd to believe a universe that works under logic was created by a logical mind. That a world with beauty and symmetry just knew how to do that all on its own. It’s totally not absurd to believe life created itself by chance but wasn’t intelligent to give itself everything it needed in the first place, just needed time is all.

I never said that there wasn’t a directing force behind it. Whether you accept them or not ( the goalposts always move ) there are thousands of transition fossils. You’re also conflating abiogenesis with evolution.
It’s misleading and fraudulent. It’s not the only evolution fraud there’s plenty that were accepted as truth for years sometimes only to be discovered as deliberate frauds (Pittman, Java man, Nebraska man, Archaeoraptor [which may have been an honest mistake]). Science is supposed to be unbiased, measurable, and observable. If those rules were applied to evolution people would have abandoned the theory a long time ago but it’s the best explanation they have so they’ll keep alive by any means necessary.

False, there isn’t anything in the Bible that promotes or encourages racism it’s literal the opposite. People can abuse anything to make a point but it makes a huge difference when the source of the information has been found to have racist propaganda.

Vision issues don’t kill people, just makes life harder. Helen Keller was deaf and blind and still was an accomplished woman. Modern science keeps people alive longer but isn’t stopping mutations in the gene pool from happening. It just helps people manage their illnesses better and you can screen for abnormalities so it would actually improve it more than make it worse. It will even more so after whatever they’re collecting all the 23 and me dna for comes about.
Java Man isn’t a fraud it’s Homo Erectus.

Hellen Keller still lives in a time that kept her alive, im talking about earlier in human history where vision issues would have been a huge detriment to survival.

Let me ask you this why did God create a species so specific like parasites that live on certain crabs in certain areas? Just for the hell of it? It’s because life is specialized to environmental factors.

Your statement about banana plants and DNA is misleading as 40% difference accounts for a huge difference. It’s only a tiny bit of difference between bonobos and humans and that small percentage makes up for a great deal of difference.

https://www.thoughtco.com/the-bible-race-and-slavery-3893539

The Bible I don’t think supports racism but that’s a matter of interpretation.
 





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No, there aren’t any transitional fossils. Just a bunch of arrogant scientist being visually misleading. There’s been multiple evolutionist who have admitted themselves there’s no transitional fossils. They’ve even been caught falsifying evidence, pretty desperate. I agree species don’t evolve into new ones but that’s not what evolutionists argue. The entire premise of their argument is that all life came from a single ancestor and modified itself over time driven by a will or need to survive by adapting.
Just because a few people have made up evidence for the fame doesn’t mean that every discovery is fake. The people who faked discoveries have rightfully been outed as fake and no scientist pretends that they are real. But actual scientific evidence that is real is not discarded. There have been countless valid scientific discoveries that you are overlooking only because you have a vested interest in disbelieving all evidence in favor of evolution. The origin of life is irrelevant to the process of evolution. Adaptation is a basic fact about the way life functions in nature.
 





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“it was an evolutionary emphasis on cooperation instead of competition in the Darwinian sense that made for the success of species, including the human"



“In the animal world we have seen that the vast majority of species live in societies, and that they find in association the best arms for the struggle for life: understood, of course, in its wide Darwinian sense – not as a struggle for the sheer means of existence, but as a struggle against all natural conditions unfavourable to the species. The animal species[...] in which individual struggle has been reduced to its narrowest limits[...] and the practice of mutual aid has attained the greatest development[...] are invariably the most numerous, the most prosperous, and the most open to further progress. The mutual protection which is obtained in this case, the possibility of attaining old age and of accumulating experience, the higher intellectual development, and the further growth of sociable habits, secure the maintenance of the species, its extension, and its further progressive evolution. The unsociable species, on the contrary, are doomed to decay.”

- Peter Kropotkin