The Pagan X-mass/Yuletide/Saturnalia

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From The Top 10 Myths That Dominate Christianity


4. Ho-ho-ho.
Merry Christ-mas! It’s the most wonderful time of the year (sing along if you know the words), when we celebrate Santa and reindeer and Christ-mas trees and Christ-mas lights and Christ-mas decorations and presents and ski trips and drinking and stuffing our faces at Christ-mas parties. Deck the halls. Jingle bells.

What in the world does any of this have to do with the birth of Jesus?

Ask any Christian and they’ll probably tell you that despite the central role Santa plays in all of this ‘holiday cheer’, they know the real reason for the season. Don’t we all?

MATERIALISM.

Christ-mass/X-mass is the most materialistic event on the calendar. Advertising and peer pressure has people spending money they don’t have on things they don’t need, to impress people they don’t know. THAT is what X-mass is all about and the real reason for the silly season. The supposed birthday of Jesus was simply added to indoctrinate and incorporate Christians into these overtly pagan/heathen Yuletide/Saturnalia traditions and promotematerialism. X-mass/Yuletide/Saturnalia and the birth of Jesus are, by their very nature, mutually exclusive.

Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and materialism.


X-mass teaches people to tell lies, and worse yet, it manipulates us to perpetuate these lies “for the good of the children”. And if any should refuse to teach, train and spoil their children into being selfish and materialistic liarslike themselves, they face the wrath and judgment of the evil majority (Exod. 23:2) who consider themselves to be St. Nick’s best friend and personal defenders.

From a very early age, children are fed the LIE that there is a jolly old man in a red suit named Santa [Ni]Claus (old St. Nick/Nicolas) who, in a single night, flies around the world in a sled pulled by flying reindeer (one with a red nose that lights the way), landing on people’s rooftops undetected before forcing his obese, jelly-like exterior through the chimney and leaving all of these wonderful gifts under the X-mass tree strung with gold and silver tinsel. As ridiculous as this story sounds, even to children, they are told if they do not believe in Santa he won’t come and leave them any presents. How can children believe anything their parents tell them after finding out Santa is a lie?

We are training our children to believe in lies and that it’s fun to repeat them.

The name “Santa” is a very obvious anagram for Satan, who is the father/inventor of LIES [John 8:35 (John 8:44 KJV)] and he is laughing at us all (ho-ho-ho) for falling for his X-mass con job. No wonder Christ HATES X-mass.

Revelation 2:6, 15
2:6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes (followers of Santa [Ni]-Claus – Yuletide, Easter [Ishtar – a goddess of fertility – eggs a symbol of fertility] etc.), which I also hate.
2:15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the followers of St. [Ni]-Claus (Yuletide), which thing I hate.

So how can so-called Christians do this to Christ? Celebrating a lie, and teaching your children to do the same is patently evil, which is why Christ (the Truth) condemns the pagan tradition of the X-mass/Yuletide/Saturnalia, which honors Satan/Santa, NOT the supposed birth of Jesus. Does anyone really believe that the Lamb of God was born in the dead of Winter? Lambs are born in the Spring, the season of REBIRTH.

In the year 7 B.C. there was a conjunction of Jupiter (the king of the planets) and Saturn (thought to be the protector of Israel) in the Constellation of Pisces (the Sign of the Messiah), as computed in 1603 by the Astronomer Royal in Prague – Johannes Kepler, that was first visible at daybreak on the 12th of April 7 B.C. (Passover in 7 B.C. was on Monday April 13th which commenced at sundown on the 12th). The earth-shattering significance of this conjunction – Messiah; King; Protector of Israel; Passover – would have been unmistakable to the Levitical Druid astronomers (wise men) in the British Isles, where the monarch was also the Archdruid.

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Matthew 2:1-6
2:1 Now when Jesus had been born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men (druids) to the East to Jerusalem,

2:2 Saying, Where is he that has been BORN King of the Jews? for we saw his “Star” in the East, and are come to worship him.
2:3 When Herod the king had heard [these things], he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him.
2:4 And when he had gathered all the chief priests and lawyers of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born.

2:5 And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
2:6 And thou Bethlehem, [in] the land of Judah, art not the least among the princes of Judah: for out of thee shall come a Governor (of this prison planet), that shall rule My people Israel.

Jesus (Savior) was born in the Spring, in Bethlehem of Judaea, at the time of the Passover (when the lamb’s blood saved us by causing the angel of death to passover) NOT on the pagan Yuletide/Christmas, during the season of death. Celebrating the heathen Yuletide/Saturnalia began shortly after the flood (Gen. 10:8-9), and had been going on for thousands of years before the birth of Jesus.

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Jeremiah 10:1-4

10:1 Hear ye the Word which the “I AM” speaketh unto you, O House of Israel:
10:2 Thus saith the “I AM”, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
10:3 For the customs of the people [are] vain: for [one] cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.


Spreading lies and continuing to do that thing which Christ hates is a sure-fire way to burn (Rev. 21:8).
 






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I know it's easy, and often perfectly legitimate, to decry the grotesque commercialism of Christmas, but I shall always appreciate what my poetic dad, who was raised without the church but who later became a Christian, said of Santa Claus: that he was, at least to my dad in his otherwise heathen, pagan because rural, childhood, far from a usurper but rather an ambassador for Christ. Without Christmas, celebrated in his little one-room schoolhouse out in the country, in a remote parish so far removed that it was never wholly evangelized by either competing Protestants or Catholics, he might not have been introduced to Christ and to the gospels. The logic may be specious, capable of being criticized on many, including Biblical grounds, but it remains, at least, poetic, and I am the kind of guy who often appreciates the poets as much or more than the Hebrew prophets. Speaking of whom, here is a section from Handel's masterpiece, taken from the scriptures, and perfect, it seems to me, for the season (hello bro @Todd ):

 






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I know it's easy, and often perfectly legitimate, to decry the grotesque commercialism of Christmas, but I shall always appreciate what my poetic dad, who was raised without the church but who later became a Christian, said of Santa Claus: that he was, at least to my dad in his otherwise heathen, pagan because rural, childhood, far from a usurper but rather an ambassador for Christ. Without Christmas, celebrated in his little one-room schoolhouse out in the country, in a remote parish so far removed that it was never wholly evangelized by either competing Protestants or Catholics, he might not have been introduced to Christ and to the gospels. The logic may be specious, capable of being criticized on many, including Biblical grounds, but it remains, at least, poetic, and I am the kind of guy who often appreciates the poets as much or more than the Hebrew prophets. Speaking of whom, here is a section from Handel's masterpiece, taken from the scriptures, and perfect, it seems to me, for the season (hello bro @Todd ):

Nice story about Christmas! I became a Christian one Christmas morning when I was about 8 or 9 - I woke up early (about 4am), crept downstairs and opened up one of my presents - a classic 1980s radio cassette player (not unlike this one):-

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As there was absolutely nothing else to do, I grabbed a cassette that was lying on the table and by breakfast I had understood a message that I didn’t expect and encountered a person who has changed my whole life.


Paid on the Nail, by Graham Kendrick, 1974

Perhaps if you have heard the Christmas story a thousand times before, you might catch the echoes of truth from the events of the 1st Century coming through...
 






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I know it's easy, and often perfectly legitimate, to decry the grotesque commercialism of Christmas, but I shall always appreciate what my poetic dad, who was raised without the church but who later became a Christian, said of Santa Claus: that he was, at least to my dad in his otherwise heathen, pagan because rural, childhood, far from a usurper but rather an ambassador for Christ. Without Christmas, celebrated in his little one-room schoolhouse out in the country, in a remote parish so far removed that it was never wholly evangelized by either competing Protestants or Catholics, he might not have been introduced to Christ and to the gospels. The logic may be specious, capable of being criticized on many, including Biblical grounds, but it remains, at least, poetic, and I am the kind of guy who often appreciates the poets as much or more than the Hebrew prophets. Speaking of whom, here is a section from Handel's masterpiece, taken from the scriptures, and perfect, it seems to me, for the season (hello bro @Todd ):

Our concerts are this Friday and Saturday. I think this is year 15 in a row for me!
 






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X-MASS - YULETIDE

A PAGAN FESTIVAL

(which is actually condemned by Christ)


CHRIST'S OPINION of SANTA CLAUS and YULETIDE, as expressed by HIS ANGEL, to HIS APOSTLE JOHN, in THE APOCALYPSE, Chapter 2.

Xmas has absolutely nothing to do with God. It was originally called Yuletide, which is a pagan festival from the Babylonian Mystery religion of SUN worship. The Babylonians were merchants (they were the originators of the "Market-system" which is condemned by God) and they used Yuletide to sell their merchandise because, like today, it made them lots of money. Then in the first century A.D. Simon (the Sorcerer) Pater (NOT Peter) stole the name christian, mixed it with the Babylonian Mystery religion and formed a new religion called christianity, that teaches the opposite of what Christ taught, and has SUNdays as its sabbath days, due to its SUN-god worshipping origins (Galatians 1:6-9; 2:4). Simon Pater NOT Simon Peter (Cephas) started the fake religion called "christianity" (Acts 8:9-25). Christ's TRUE followers or disciples called themselves "Followers of The Way" or "Those True to The Covenant" (Nazrim ha-Brit), NOT christians.​
SUNday is the FIRST day of the week, NOT the Sabbath which is the SEVENTH day; on which God rested. This "so-called" christianity perverted the teachings of Christ and incorporated their pagan rituals, in their temples, which have as their focal point a "Tower of Babel" (from which the word Babylon is derived) in which were babbling-bells. This is directly opposed to the true teaching of Christ who says that YOU must NOT go to church (Matthew 6:5-6 where synagogue means all churches). They also hijacked the virgin-birth and moved it from April to December 25th to coincide with their own Yuletide festival, which Christ says he HATES, in the Holy Bible, in Apocalypse/Revelation 2:6, 15, where the Nicolaitanes, whose doctrine Christ hates, are the followers of Santa (Ni)-Claus, who celebrate Yuletide (and Easter [Ishtar] a god of fertility - eggs are the symbol of fertility not crucifixion).​
Verse 6: But this thou hast (in thy favour), that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes which I (Christ) ALSO HATE.​
Verse 15: So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes (the followers of St.Nicholas - Santa Claus), which thing I (Christ) HATE.​
The Nicolaitans celebrate Yule-tide (Christmas now) and Santa Claus (st. Nicholas) and decorate trees with silver, which thing Christ HATES, because it is Satanic and NOT from God or Christ, as he makes perfectly clear in the verses above.​
SANTA CLAUS WEARS SCARLET which Christ has told us is SATAN'S COLOUR (see Revelations chapter 12 verses 3+9 - the great RED dragon - SATAN).​
SANTA CLAUS is an anagram for SATAN.​
SATAN LUCAS/LUCIFER - THE DEVIL.​

There is nothing Godly about Christmas and Christ HATES it; so how can christians celebrate it? Who taught them to do so? Certainly NOT Christ or his apostles.​
A true Christian would be one who follows Christ's Way, does what He did, loves what He loved and hates what he hates - he would not imagine or theorize on what Christ would like or not like.​
The "Virgin-birth" was in Spring at the time of birth and The Passover, when "lambs" were being born. It was NOT in December, the seasonal time of death.​
The virgin-birth was actually in April, with new-born lambs in the fields, just like the Second Coming.​
The fact that the three kings came to pay homage, and brought gifts of great wealth, was used by Satan to give, to those who perverted the teaching, the idea to continue and even increase the sales of their merchandise (a great marketing-exercise for them). So the virgin-birth was hijacked and corrupted into a time to make lots of money, using the ultimate in "high-pressure sales techniques", which was to falsely use God's Son's name, in order to embarass people, who couldn't afford to buy gifts, to go into debt or steal in order to buy their merchandise. By doing this the rich merchants ruin the lives of the poor, driving them further into debt and poverty or crime, whilst making themselves richer and richer. It is WRONG and EVIL from every angle. The original gifts were from rich kings to the "supposedly" poor - from the rich to the Son of God. There is absolutely NO Biblical precedent or teaching that supports giving gifts to human children. The merchants have turned it all backwards and made it the opposite, where the poor give money to the rich. They have done this because it and they are Satanically inspired. Satan is a Hebrew word that means "the Opposer" - someone who does and says the OPPOSITE of what God says, telling and teaching others to do the opposite too, by words, persuasion and example.​
Giving presents to human children, instead of them giving their "selves" as presents to God, feeds their egoes (the "self") and makes them more arrogant and selfish because people are paying homage to them, bringing them gifts. This arrogance then causes them to oppress adults (Isaiah 3:12).​
Instead of which they should be paying homage to God, and being thankful for Him having sent His Son to show them The Way, using their money in God's cause (for good). Children like adults have to lose their egoes and become unselfish (by daily crucifixion - "self"-sacrifice); humble; polite and helpful, or they will continue the ruining of the world and cause themselves to be executed on the Last Day.​
So, by giving gifts and celebrating a pagan festival, parents are, IN REALITY, doing harm to their own children and themselves, whilst making themselves poorer, and the rich richer and bringing about the ultimate execution of their children's souls (Beings) and their own, on the now imminent Last Day.​
Children should get only what they need, when they need it and NOT get expensive useless rubbish that breaks and/or is quickly discarded. They need you to spend the time, that you spent working to buy presents, with them, teaching them love and how to behave properly, instead of feeding their egoes. Less time at work, for you, and more time with your children so that you are not strangers to each other.​
Christ came to bring True Justice for everyone, to put an end to poverty and make life loving and better EVERY day not one miserable day a year.​
Source article: X-MASS - YULETIDE A PAGAN FESTIVAL
 






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SANTA SATAN
by Mr. Normal
(Xmas Eve, 2000)

Is it plausible that Santa is really Satan?"

Think about it, folks! It's not just that "Santa"is an obvious anagram of Satan; that Santa wears a demonic red suit symbolic of the fires of Hell; and that his huge hat must conceal horns. The clincher is that Santa represents xmas, that time of year when christian greed and phony sincerity reach their unctuous peak. It's the season when brain dead followers of the ultimate cult are whipped into frenzies that leave them figuratively drained -- broke and exhausted.

Understandably, it's also the time of the year when depression and suicides max out as the futility of achieving happiness sinks in at least subliminally. A December, 2000 Gallup poll shows that 85% of us think that xmas is too commercial, but Santa/Satan wouldn't have it any other way! Our most respected institutions are in on the plot too. Even the law of the land (U.S.A.) forbids a baby Jesus in the town square, but who's there instead? You guessed it! Santa! - Satan.

Lucifer/Satan once was one of God's angels. Satan's attempted heavenly coup failed (Isa. 14:12-15), but he was givenhis very own place to rule and called it Hell/Earth (Rev. 12:9) Satan also got free reign to tempt as many people as he wanted (even Christ himself!) and lots of fabulous stuff to tempt them with (like eternal youth and Mercedes Benzes). However, Satan still was not satisfied. He worked hard to make xmas the most important retail event of the year. A recent survey showed that 60% of holiday spending occurs at xmas, and another 20% at Satan's recognized holiday of Halloween. Think about it, folks! Satan has locked up 80% of our holiday dollars! Who else could be the "red dragon" of Revelation 12:3, ?. More important is that asking Santa for something really is an unwitting pact with the Devil, and parents are dooming their children's souls to Hell-Fire! (Coming to your neighbourhood; soon - JAH.)

"Santa Satan's" devilish temptations have achieved what John Lennon could only try to claim for the Beatles -- greater popularity than Jesus! Indeed, "Santa Satan" truly is the reason for the season!

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Christ, the Spirit-Being that was placed in-side the body(IN-carnated not begotten as it has been misinterpreted) called Jesus, was not born 2000 years ago or even 2,000 millennia ago. He is, as he said, older than this planet and zillions of years old, being the first created by God (His oldest Son - Prince Michael - Dan. 10:21). It was only the human animal organic computer (body), that was used by the Son of God, that was born 2000 years ago. You are not supposed to worship or make graven images of a human organic computer, similar to the one that you are locked inside of, or even the spirit (Christ) that was within the body called Jesus; you are supposed to worship his Perfect Father the Supreme-Being, as Christ himself told you to do. God is not a human, He is a "Being of Light" (soul). Therefore His Son (Christ) is not a human either but was the soul (Being) that was inside the human body from the virgin-birth.God is Spirit (energy/Light) and you must worship Him in spirit (with your spirit - soul) in TRUTH and love Him, as He loves you.

JAH

THE TRUTH ABOUT CHRISTMAS
 






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God forbid we should celebrate the festivals of those wicked evil demonic pagans... There's nothing sacred at all about the solstice, the sun of course is an idol and has nothing whatsoever to do with the story of Christ.

Just decorated our tree (which is artificial and receives no worship ;-)
What's wrong with real trees!? Plastic is better than nature now?
 






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From The Top 10 Myths That Dominate Christianity


4. Ho-ho-ho.
Merry Christ-mas! It’s the most wonderful time of the year (sing along if you know the words), when we celebrate Santa and reindeer and Christ-mas trees and Christ-mas lights and Christ-mas decorations and presents and ski trips and drinking and stuffing our faces at Christ-mas parties. Deck the halls. Jingle bells.

What in the world does any of this have to do with the birth of Jesus?

Ask any Christian and they’ll probably tell you that despite the central role Santa plays in all of this ‘holiday cheer’, they know the real reason for the season. Don’t we all?

MATERIALISM.

Christ-mass/X-mass is the most materialistic event on the calendar. Advertising and peer pressure has people spending money they don’t have on things they don’t need, to impress people they don’t know. THAT is what X-mass is all about and the real reason for the silly season. The supposed birthday of Jesus was simply added to indoctrinate and incorporate Christians into these overtly pagan/heathen Yuletide/Saturnalia traditions and promotematerialism. X-mass/Yuletide/Saturnalia and the birth of Jesus are, by their very nature, mutually exclusive.

Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and materialism.


X-mass teaches people to tell lies, and worse yet, it manipulates us to perpetuate these lies “for the good of the children”. And if any should refuse to teach, train and spoil their children into being selfish and materialistic liarslike themselves, they face the wrath and judgment of the evil majority (Exod. 23:2) who consider themselves to be St. Nick’s best friend and personal defenders.

From a very early age, children are fed the LIE that there is a jolly old man in a red suit named Santa [Ni]Claus (old St. Nick/Nicolas) who, in a single night, flies around the world in a sled pulled by flying reindeer (one with a red nose that lights the way), landing on people’s rooftops undetected before forcing his obese, jelly-like exterior through the chimney and leaving all of these wonderful gifts under the X-mass tree strung with gold and silver tinsel. As ridiculous as this story sounds, even to children, they are told if they do not believe in Santa he won’t come and leave them any presents. How can children believe anything their parents tell them after finding out Santa is a lie?

We are training our children to believe in lies and that it’s fun to repeat them.

The name “Santa” is a very obvious anagram for Satan, who is the father/inventor of LIES [John 8:35 (John 8:44 KJV)] and he is laughing at us all (ho-ho-ho) for falling for his X-mass con job. No wonder Christ HATES X-mass.

Revelation 2:6, 15
2:6
But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes (followers of Santa [Ni]-Claus – Yuletide, Easter [Ishtar – a goddess of fertility – eggs a symbol of fertility] etc.), which I also hate.
2:15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the followers of St. [Ni]-Claus (Yuletide), which thing I hate.

So how can so-called Christians do this to Christ? Celebrating a lie, and teaching your children to do the same is patently evil, which is why Christ (the Truth) condemns the pagan tradition of the X-mass/Yuletide/Saturnalia, which honors Satan/Santa, NOT the supposed birth of Jesus. Does anyone really believe that the Lamb of God was born in the dead of Winter? Lambs are born in the Spring, the season of REBIRTH.

In the year 7 B.C. there was a conjunction of Jupiter (the king of the planets) and Saturn (thought to be the protector of Israel) in the Constellation of Pisces (the Sign of the Messiah), as computed in 1603 by the Astronomer Royal in Prague – Johannes Kepler, that was first visible at daybreak on the 12th of April 7 B.C. (Passover in 7 B.C. was on Monday April 13th which commenced at sundown on the 12th). The earth-shattering significance of this conjunction – Messiah; King; Protector of Israel; Passover – would have been unmistakable to the Levitical Druid astronomers (wise men) in the British Isles, where the monarch was also the Archdruid.

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Matthew 2:1-6
2:1
Now when Jesus had been born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men (druids) to the East to Jerusalem,

2:2 Saying, Where is he that has been BORN King of the Jews? for we saw his “Star” in the East, and are come to worship him.
2:3 When Herod the king had heard [these things], he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him.
2:4 And when he had gathered all the chief priests and lawyers of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born.

2:5 And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
2:6 And thou Bethlehem, [in] the land of Judah, art not the least among the princes of Judah: for out of thee shall come a Governor (of this prison planet), that shall rule My people Israel.

Jesus (Savior) was born in the Spring, in Bethlehem of Judaea, at the time of the Passover (when the lamb’s blood saved us by causing the angel of death to passover) NOT on the pagan Yuletide/Christmas, during the season of death. Celebrating the heathen Yuletide/Saturnalia began shortly after the flood (Gen. 10:8-9), and had been going on for thousands of years before the birth of Jesus.

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Jeremiah 10:1-4
10:1
Hear ye the Word which the “I AM” speaketh unto you, O House of Israel:
10:2 Thus saith the “I AM”, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
10:3 For the customs of the people [are] vain: for [one] cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.


Spreading lies and continuing to do that thing which Christ hates is a sure-fire way to burn (Rev. 21:8).
By the way, Saturn doesn't have anything to do with Satan. The etymology is completely different, Satan is from Hebrew, Saturn is from Latin.
 






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Well, my christmas ad on the radio is about Jesus, it will go on air tomorrow so I can't say how well received it was.

What I can tell you, from my professional and pessoal experience, is that people (at least here) can't stand this materialistic mess anymore.

People are urging for something more, we just need to give it to them. It's like giving na fruit to a kid who was fed candy for years.

Now really, we all here on this fórum are tired of seeing this "OOHH X-MAS IS PAGAN" all over again and i'm personally tired of being tired of seeing this. Common, if the world is like the way it is today it is mainly because we let it happen.

Revolution won't change anything, we need a deepper and gradual change for better. I've already ran a ad about Jesus this year, if we all talk to our neighboors about letting go materialistic stuff we can seize back the christmas from those pagan guys.

For those who might be curious, this is the ad. It went on air with a few tweaks but it is mainly the same.

Christmas is a time of hope, the time when God's triumph is in the midst of failure and misery, from the manger's poverty to the annihilation of Calvary where God triumphed in silence. Even though all seems lost, it is at this time that we must remember to be firm in our faith and not lose hope even in the midst of tribulation.
Dr. Anderson wishes a merry Christmas and happy holidays to all.
 






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The events that transpired that had me giving up celebrating christmas...

I had been teaching Sunday School and I was praying to God talking to Him about what classes I should teach and I felt like I should teach Jesus birth...but it wasn’t christmas. I could also teach Jesus death but it wasn’t easter and I felt like God was saying that it didn’t matter, I could teach them whenever I want to.

Later...at my last christmas celebration, God was gracious to me and I sat there enjoying looking at the tree we had decorated, the presents long unwrapped, the tree forgotten, but I sat there that night enjoying the beauty of it all when I started to think about christmas really think about it and what it meant.

What does merry christmas mean? I couldn’t say, what did that phrase mean? When you break it down it’s merry Christ mass..isn’t it. I don’t celebrate mass, I’m a Christian. Made me feel that this holiday had more to do with catholicism then Christianity. That and it had to do with baby Jesus...not that the Bible doesn’t talk about Jesus being a baby..but catholics are caught up in Jesus being a baby or dead on a cross and I began to see that the holiday isn’t what we Christians think it’s about.

Why as Christians should we put up trees and decorate them? Does that have anything to do with christianity? Putting presents under a tree which was our way of giving like God gave to us? Is that true? Is it giving when it’s have to...christmas is have to.

Next came the fact that was Jesus really born on that day, the Bible doesn’t say when He was born leading me to believe that if God really wanted us to celebrate that day, He would have told us the day and the disciples would have recorded celebrating it. None of those things happened. And why would I celebrate the birth of Jesus being born when He’s already existed. That doesn’t seem right.

And I knew it was wrong, God was showing me it was wrong but He graciously allowed me to sit there and enjoy my last Christmas. I really was hoping that the next year I could have continued, pretend my eyes weren’t really opened...but I knew...if I were to follow God..I had to be honest and only follow what was true. That was the hardest thing I did...tell my husband and kids that I wasn’t going to do christmas anymore, they were mad, sad and disappointed and attempted to still have christmas but I would allow the tree upstairs. I had decided to follow God in truth no matter the consequences and I still do.
 






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The events that transpired that had me giving up celebrating christmas...

I had been teaching Sunday School and I was praying to God talking to Him about what classes I should teach and I felt like I should teach Jesus birth...but it wasn’t christmas. I could also teach Jesus death but it wasn’t easter and I felt like God was saying that it didn’t matter, I could teach them whenever I want to.

Later...at my last christmas celebration, God was gracious to me and I sat there enjoying looking at the tree we had decorated, the presents long unwrapped, the tree forgotten, but I sat there that night enjoying the beauty of it all when I started to think about christmas really think about it and what it meant.

What does merry christmas mean? I couldn’t say, what did that phrase mean? When you break it down it’s merry Christ mass..isn’t it. I don’t celebrate mass, I’m a Christian. Made me feel that this holiday had more to do with catholicism then Christianity. That and it had to do with baby Jesus...not that the Bible doesn’t talk about Jesus being a baby..but catholics are caught up in Jesus being a baby or dead on a cross and I began to see that the holiday isn’t what we Christians think it’s about.

Why as Christians should we put up trees and decorate them? Does that have anything to do with christianity? Putting presents under a tree which was our way of giving like God gave to us? Is that true? Is it giving when it’s have to...christmas is have to.

Next came the fact that was Jesus really born on that day, the Bible doesn’t say when He was born leading me to believe that if God really wanted us to celebrate that day, He would have told us the day and the disciples would have recorded celebrating it. None of those things happened. And why would I celebrate the birth of Jesus being born when He’s already existed. That doesn’t seem right.

And I knew it was wrong, God was showing me it was wrong but He graciously allowed me to sit there and enjoy my last Christmas. I really was hoping that the next year I could have continued, pretend my eyes weren’t really opened...but I knew...if I were to follow God..I had to be honest and only follow what was true. That was the hardest thing I did...tell my husband and kids that I wasn’t going to do christmas anymore, they were mad, sad and disappointed and attempted to still have christmas but I would allow the tree upstairs. I had decided to follow God in truth no matter the consequences and I still do.
https://aleteia.org/2017/08/24/why-do-catholics-call-their-main-church-services-mass/
 






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The events that transpired that had me giving up celebrating christmas...

I had been teaching Sunday School and I was praying to God talking to Him about what classes I should teach and I felt like I should teach Jesus birth...but it wasn’t christmas. I could also teach Jesus death but it wasn’t easter and I felt like God was saying that it didn’t matter, I could teach them whenever I want to.

Later...at my last christmas celebration, God was gracious to me and I sat there enjoying looking at the tree we had decorated, the presents long unwrapped, the tree forgotten, but I sat there that night enjoying the beauty of it all when I started to think about christmas really think about it and what it meant.

What does merry christmas mean? I couldn’t say, what did that phrase mean? When you break it down it’s merry Christ mass..isn’t it. I don’t celebrate mass, I’m a Christian. Made me feel that this holiday had more to do with catholicism then Christianity. That and it had to do with baby Jesus...not that the Bible doesn’t talk about Jesus being a baby..but catholics are caught up in Jesus being a baby or dead on a cross and I began to see that the holiday isn’t what we Christians think it’s about.

Why as Christians should we put up trees and decorate them? Does that have anything to do with christianity? Putting presents under a tree which was our way of giving like God gave to us? Is that true? Is it giving when it’s have to...christmas is have to.

Next came the fact that was Jesus really born on that day, the Bible doesn’t say when He was born leading me to believe that if God really wanted us to celebrate that day, He would have told us the day and the disciples would have recorded celebrating it. None of those things happened. And why would I celebrate the birth of Jesus being born when He’s already existed. That doesn’t seem right.

And I knew it was wrong, God was showing me it was wrong but He graciously allowed me to sit there and enjoy my last Christmas. I really was hoping that the next year I could have continued, pretend my eyes weren’t really opened...but I knew...if I were to follow God..I had to be honest and only follow what was true. That was the hardest thing I did...tell my husband and kids that I wasn’t going to do christmas anymore, they were mad, sad and disappointed and attempted to still have christmas but I would allow the tree upstairs. I had decided to follow God in truth no matter the consequences and I still do.
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The events that transpired that had me giving up celebrating christmas...

I had been teaching Sunday School and I was praying to God talking to Him about what classes I should teach and I felt like I should teach Jesus birth...but it wasn’t christmas. I could also teach Jesus death but it wasn’t easter and I felt like God was saying that it didn’t matter, I could teach them whenever I want to.

Later...at my last christmas celebration, God was gracious to me and I sat there enjoying looking at the tree we had decorated, the presents long unwrapped, the tree forgotten, but I sat there that night enjoying the beauty of it all when I started to think about christmas really think about it and what it meant.

What does merry christmas mean? I couldn’t say, what did that phrase mean? When you break it down it’s merry Christ mass..isn’t it. I don’t celebrate mass, I’m a Christian. Made me feel that this holiday had more to do with catholicism then Christianity. That and it had to do with baby Jesus...not that the Bible doesn’t talk about Jesus being a baby..but catholics are caught up in Jesus being a baby or dead on a cross and I began to see that the holiday isn’t what we Christians think it’s about.

Why as Christians should we put up trees and decorate them? Does that have anything to do with christianity? Putting presents under a tree which was our way of giving like God gave to us? Is that true? Is it giving when it’s have to...christmas is have to.

Next came the fact that was Jesus really born on that day, the Bible doesn’t say when He was born leading me to believe that if God really wanted us to celebrate that day, He would have told us the day and the disciples would have recorded celebrating it. None of those things happened. And why would I celebrate the birth of Jesus being born when He’s already existed. That doesn’t seem right.

And I knew it was wrong, God was showing me it was wrong but He graciously allowed me to sit there and enjoy my last Christmas. I really was hoping that the next year I could have continued, pretend my eyes weren’t really opened...but I knew...if I were to follow God..I had to be honest and only follow what was true. That was the hardest thing I did...tell my husband and kids that I wasn’t going to do christmas anymore, they were mad, sad and disappointed and attempted to still have christmas but I would allow the tree upstairs. I had decided to follow God in truth no matter the consequences and I still do.
Thank-you so much for sharing that Lisa.

There's no question that it was God guiding you (showing to you telepathically and showing you) the truth about X-mass.

It should be self-evident that the "Lamb of God" was born in the Springtime, when lambs are born. Spring is the season of rebirth, when the plants and trees begin to awaken from their long winter slumber. Winter is the season of old age and death. Do people really think that an expecting Mary would have been forced to travel in the dead of winter and deliver the baby Jesus in freezing cold conditions?

Further proof of the X-mass LIE about the birth of Jesus.

It would be nice if everyone would stop and think about all of this very carefully, as God had you do. Not only did very evil forces co-opt Christ's name to cover their fabricated story about the birth of Jesus, but they've turned it into the most materialistic and wasteful event of the year. A LIE so powerful that those who refuse to go along with it are often attacked and shamed by those who cannot bear to part with the lie they've come to love, even after they find out it's a lie.

"What about the children?" "Just think about how they'll be affected if you take X-mass away from them." "How can you not celebrate X-mass?"

Once one realizes (is shown, as you were Lisa) that it is mocking Christ and the sacrifice He made to celebrate a pagan holiday that has nothing to do with Him, how could anyone continue doing it?
 






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