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Is that a baphomet and pentagram sign he is sporting?
 

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There are atheistic Satanists. In fact, I am one.

Living to appease your flesh and wholly dedicate your existence to indulging in your carnal lusts aye? That is essentially what Laveyan Satanism is. It is exaltation of the lower self or the embracing of the carnal nature within man...

Lavey was an actual Satanist though. He performed rituals and occult practices...
 

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Living to appease your flesh and wholly dedicate your existence to indulging in your carnal lusts aye? That is essentially what Laveyan Satanism is. It is exaltation of the lower self or the embracing of the carnal nature within man...

Lavey was an actual Satanist though. He performed rituals and occult practices...
Yes, Laveyan Satanists are also occultists. We believe it is a way to focus the subconcious mind on our goals, nothing more.
 

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Yes, Laveyan Satanists are also occultists. We believe it is a way to focus the subconcious mind on our goals, nothing more.
Lavey taught to embrace and not be ashamed of mans primitive carnal instincts. He believed they should not be inhibited, but rather released....
 

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Lavey taught to embrace and not be ashamed of mans primitive carnal instincts. He believed they should not be inhibited, but rather released....
Yes, no worries, I know what he taught. I know you disagree. I believe man is not better or superior to animals.
 

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Yes, no worries, I know what he taught. I know you disagree. I believe man is not better or superior to animals.
I used to live that way. The more I indulged in sin and sought to gratify my own passions the more miserable in life I was. Eventually you have to suppress your own conscience...
 
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he also put a curse on jane mansfield, guess he believed curses were real, his daughter and son founded werewolf sects, Bill Schnoeblen, who im skeptical of says it is possibly to become a werewolf/vampire, and be embued with demonic energies.

Also michael aquino, was apart of the C.O.S. before he created the temple of set, and involved with CIA MK Ultra, operations, I think it all just apart of the illuminati pyramid scheme.
 
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Living to appease your flesh and wholly dedicate your existence to indulging in your carnal lusts aye? That is essentially what Laveyan Satanism is. It is exaltation of the lower self or the embracing of the carnal nature within man...

Lavey was an actual Satanist though. He performed rituals and occult practices...
Performing rituals doesn't mean you're a Satanist though. Or that you believe in what you're working with. Chaos magicians often invoke fictional beings because of what they represent metaphysically, despite knowing they aren't real. There's also Christian witches. They are seen as heretical though.

Mind you, I'm not a fan of Levay or Satanism is general... But I feel that the most insidious part about LeVayan Satanism is how it essentially makes a cult of out Objectivism.
 

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I used to live that way. The more I indulged in sin and sought to gratify my own passions the more miserable in life I was. Eventually you have to suppress your own conscience...
Not quite. I went from a Christian upbringing to this, because I found the Bible deeply problematic. Following my own inner voice as opposed to Christianity has freed my consience instead of repressed it.
 

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The more I indulged in sin and sought to gratify my own passions the more miserable in life I was.
Yet the reality for most Christians is that you are still miserable and still having to deal with such "passions" because you do not have a healthy way of dealing with them. Also your framing of that is not correct. What you meant to say as "the more I indulged in what Christianity and other Abrahamic religions refer to as 'Sin' ".
Every religious tradition has it's own views on morality and ethics, but Christianity and the other Abrahamic religions are more unique with it's terminology and it's classification; with associations, towards various types of things which are denoted philosophical and even supernatural characteristics which are alien to other moral and ethical systems.
"Sin" of course is a trigger word with it's own psychological and emotional buzzes.

I'm interested to know if you were born a Christian or not?
 

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Yet the reality for most Christians is that you are still miserable and still having to deal with such "passions" because you do not have a healthy way of dealing with them.
Not quite

I'm interested to know if you were born a Christian or not?
I claimed to be a Christian in my early years. Renounced it altogether and affiliated as an atheist. Then I got saved almost 10 years ago and gave my life to Christ.

Not quite. I went from a Christian upbringing to this, because I found the Bible deeply problematic. Following my own inner voice as opposed to Christianity has freed my consience instead of repressed it.
If you say so. In the summer before I came to Christ years ago I was unemployed and spent months at home. All I did was watch porn, drink alcohol, play video games, smoke cigarettes, eat junk food, and listen to degenerate music. That's the whole premise of Laveyan Satanism where the chief end of life is to gratify mans carnality and indulge in his most primal lower self passions without inhibition. I didnt feel free. In fact the longer I lived that way the more my conscience would speak to the emptiness and futility of such a life. The only way I could have continued to live like that is through suppressing my own conscience and lying to myself. There is more freedom in a life not ruled by sin and carnality than a life dictated by sin. That's why celebrities are some of the most depressed people out there. Their Laveyan Satanism lifestyle brings them to ruin and emptiness....


... For whatever overcomes a person, to that he is enslaved. 2Pet 2:19
 
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If you say so. In the summer before I came to Christ years ago I was unemployed and spent months at home. All I did was watch porn, drink alcohol, play video games, smoke cigarettes, eat junk food, and listen to degenerate music.
Honestly you sound like you were an addict. Most of what you mentioned are generally addictions for most people who usually have a weak will and inability to control their urges.
Porn and Alcohol can definitely hit a person quite bad if they don't have serious moderation, both can do damage to your head. Porn is not sex either, sex is an entirely different thing altogether as it is a physical act involving people, and not pixels on a screen.
For porn it's stuff like seritonin and dopamine, alcohol has it's overlap. Both rob the body and do lead to problems with emotional and mental health if left unchecked. For an average person who is also more of a social person, the occasional porn and social drink can be acceptable regarding the health of the body but over excess of theses things is not good, no.
It's obviously far more beneficial that someone addicted to porn should make friends and get a partner. And that someone who drinks alcohol should replace it with something less hard on the head.
Cigarettes are just bad anyway you look at it.


Music on the other hand is more of an ideological issue and is not related in the same way. Really aggressive and violent music can actually have very therapeutic effects on listeners, increasingly moreso if you're a musician or a singer. Art is very much a different thing.
 

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Honestly you sound like you were an addict. Most of what you mentioned are generally addictions for most people who usually have a weak will and inability to control their urges.
Porn and Alcohol can definitely hit a person quite bad if they don't have serious moderation, both can do damage to your head. Porn is not sex either, sex is an entirely different thing altogether as it is a physical act involving people, and not pixels on a screen.
For porn it's stuff like seritonin and dopamine, alcohol has it's overlap. Both rob the body and do lead to problems with emotional and mental health if left unchecked. For an average person who is also more of a social person, the occasional porn and social drink can be acceptable regarding the health of the body but over excess of theses things is not good, no.
It's obviously far more beneficial that someone addicted to porn should make friends and get a partner. And that someone who drinks alcohol should replace it with something less hard on the head.
Cigarettes are just bad anyway you look at it.


Music on the other hand is more of an ideological issue and is not related in the same way. Really aggressive and violent music can actually have very therapeutic effects on listeners, increasingly moreso if you're a musician or a singer. Art is very much a different thing.

You should be applauding me for my old life. Afterall I lived a life free of religious dogma and didnt adhere to the egotistical gluttonous doctrines of Christianity. Back then I wasnt brainwashed by the concept of sin. ;)
 

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You should be applauding me for my old life.
Why exactly? you didn't sound very free, you sounded quite imprisoned by addiction.

Afterall I lived a life free of religious dogma and didnt adhere to the egotistical gluttonous doctrines of Christianity. Back then I wasnt brainwashed by the concept of sin. ;)
You're making really stupid false equivalences.
 

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Why exactly? you didn't sound very free, you sounded quite imprisoned by addiction.



You're making really stupid false equivalences.
I currently dont live that way. Didnt require any treatment or rehab of any sort. I just stopped doing those things...

Ill let you be the judge and determine whether I(an addict) just up and stopped on my own power without any treatment or if Jesus set me free by the power of the holy ghost.
 

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Ill let you be the judge and determine whether I(an addict) just up and stopped on my own power without any treatment or if Jesus set me free by the power of the holy ghost.
You created an incentive for yourself, which of various forms, is what you are supposed to do. However it does also lean towards the common reality of people using religion as an emotional and psychological crutch as a way of trying to gain control over themselves.
Things like rehab are usually meant to foster a kind of incentive and to help change your habits but things like that cannot come from other people, it always has to come through an inner drive to change ones lifestyle and habits; which is why rehab is often actually unsuccessful because other people can't do it for you.
 

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So i was addicted and then I just reasoned that it didnt benefit me anymore and so I stopped? You must not know what addiction is...
 
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