The Israel Question

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Monotheism does not recognize the true nature and composition of the Creator... as the Creator is more complex and cannot be confined in a man made -ism.



The Arab Israeli conflict or the Islam Jewish hostility has also divided citizens in the US Europe and elsewhere.

If you think boycott of Israeli products is good... you have chosen the Arab or Islam side in this conflict. And if you don't agree with US state administrations not wanting to do business with boycotters of Israeli products... you can vote them out of office.

Americans can best defend themselves by coming together in their communities and watch over and take care of themselves.
"If you think boycott of Israeli products is good... you have chosen the Arab or Islam side in this conflict. And if you don't agree with US state administrations not wanting to do business with boycotters of Israeli products... you can vote them out of office."
So in your opinion, Israel can do whatever they want, no matter how wrong, and anyone who attempts to resist in any fashion (even non-violent, even in their own lands) is the true party actually at fault.

As for the voting and leaders which you mentioned here and in your other post, the better question is..... why cant Israel just stay out of our electoral process altogether? What right do they have to maintain access and authority over US politics and policy?
 





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Hey urrybody! Look who just got involved in the election that aint started yet.......
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Remember him?
Yeah thats right, this guy........
 





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So in your opinion, Israel can do whatever they want, no matter how wrong, and anyone who attempts to resist in any fashion (even non-violent, even in their own lands) is the true party actually at fault.
How is it Israel's fault if some of your (s)elected officials appear to be pro Israel in this Middle East conflict ?


As for the voting and leaders which you mentioned here and in your other post, the better question is..... why cant Israel just stay out of our electoral process altogether? What right do they have to maintain access and authority over US politics and policy?
What right does the Arab lobby have over there ?
 





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How is it Israel's fault if some of your (s)elected officials appear to be pro Israel in this Middle East conflict ?



What right does the Arab lobby have over there ?
Israel is openly meddling in American elections. This compromises the validity of the elections. So why cant Israel just stay out of our politics or involve themselves in them via the standard avenues already available for foreign governments and lobbyists?

The Arab lobbyists has almost no clout in America. There are rich Arabs (some Muslim, some not) whom exert varying degrees of individual influence, but there is no real "Arab" lobby here.
 





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Israel is openly meddling in American elections. This compromises the validity of the elections. So why cant Israel just stay out of our politics or involve themselves in them via the standard avenues already available for foreign governments and lobbyists?

The Arab lobbyists has almost no clout in America. There are rich Arabs (some Muslim, some not) whom exert varying degrees of individual influence, but there is no real "Arab" lobby here.
The Arab lobby is very influential in Washington because of the oil.
 





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The Arab lobby is very influential in Washington because of the oil.
No it aint. If it was, they wouldn't be such lackeys. The Arab states cant even manage their own oil reserves, they bring in foreigners to run the industry for them.

But if you would like to start a discussion regarding the "Arab lobby" you are mentioning, feel free..... this thread is regarding Israel meddling in American sovereignty.
 





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No it aint. If it was, they wouldn't be such lackeys. The Arab states cant even manage their own oil reserves, they bring in foreigners to run the industry for them.
It's not called petrodollars for nothing.

The US warmachine is greased by Arab oil.
 





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It's not called petrodollars for nothing.

The US warmachine is greased by Arab oil.
Its greased by oil period.... and you have presented that as problematic, and I agree. But it operates at the behest of Zionists. When viewed in that light, my guess is it will suddenly become less problematic to you lol
But feel free to explain why its ok for Zionists to spy on and steal from the US military, then sell what they get to our enemies, then beg our congress for more billions in military aid.........
 





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The Israeli elites have issued a constant, public stream of statements declaring their rule over American political, business, financial and military policy & mechanisms along with open declarations that their media control via Jewish surrogates amounts to controlling our minds and culture. This isnt some "Protocols blood libel".... these are the very real and public comments from some of the most senior players in the game on the Israel side of things. Are we not to take their word at it? Especially when bills like this are introduced? Oh yes, another note on S.1..... the previous version of this bill floated before the senate was even more extreme. It called for the imprisonment and confiscation of wealth and property for criticisms of Israel and involvement with the BDS movement. Again, not a lizard-man conspiracy, it was in the bill itself for crying out loud.
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Not to mention the occupation by Zionism of the American government and news is complete, total, absolute. The Israeli lobby is the biggest lobby in the USA. Not oil, not pharmaceuticals, not NRA, Israel, a foreign country, is the biggest lobbying group to the United States government. A candidate cannot get elected without them. Just last week they passes House Resolution 221, which begins to make illegal criticism of Israel and make illegal boycotting them. Out of 412 representitives do you know how many voted for it? 411. Only one person had the courage to vote against the Israeli lobby.
How is it possible that a tiny country, half the world away, is holding hostage not just the legislature but also the populace of “the greatest country in the history of the world”? If this was Greece and Germany, it would be all over the press.

Even more telling is the silence of Christian Zionists (especially alt-media bloggers) on this bill. If it was a UN vote on the two state solution, seemingly about to be passed, they’d churn out article after article warning of God’s wrath to befall America at the attempt of dividing His land. They are seemingly oblivious to the fact that they are bequeathing this to their children and grandchildren.

The question though is, has anyone figured out where all this all going to end? I guess all criticism of the state of Israel will soon be outlawed, even when it attacks another country and the conflict sets the region aflame. Taking a page out of the history book, criticism of Israel is being translated into criticism of the Sovereign of the Universe thereby making it a crime against God, even as we have (as outrageous as it is) people claiming the Israel Lobby is “God’s lobby”. Besides, why is criticism of Israel a sin but my criticism of, say, Uzbekistan isn’t?
https://www.americanthinker.com/art...mocrats_antichristian_antiisrael_antigod.html
[They hate God, so they hate Israel.]


Lord Sacks could as well be a little more honest.
 





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How is it possible that a tiny country, half the world away, is holding hostage not just the legislature but also the populace of “the greatest country in the history of the world”? If this was Greece and Germany, it would be all over the press.

Even more telling is the silence of Christian Zionists on this bill. If it was a UN vote on the two state solution, seemingly about to be passed, they’d churn out article after article warning of God’s wrath to befall America at the attempt of dividing His land. They are seemingly oblivious to the fact that they are bequeathing this to their children and grandchildren.

The question though is, has anyone figured out where all this all going to end? I guess all criticism of the state of Israel will soon be outlawed, even when it attacks another country and the conflict sets the region aflame. Taking a page out of the history book, criticism of Israel is being translated into criticism of the Sovereign of the Universe thereby making it a crime against God, even as we have (as outrageous as it is) people claiming the Israel Lobby is “God’s lobby”. Besides, why is criticism of Israel a sin but my criticism of, say, Uzbekistan isn’t?
https://www.americanthinker.com/art...mocrats_antichristian_antiisrael_antigod.html
[They hate God, so they hate Israel.]


Lord Sacks could as well be a little more honest.
This is a truly powerful post and Im going to attempt a proper reply once I have researched what you have posted here. Thank you for your efforts!
 





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How is it possible that a tiny country, half the world away, is holding hostage not just the legislature but also the populace of “the greatest country in the history of the world”? If this was Greece and Germany, it would be all over the press.

Even more telling is the silence of Christian Zionists (especially alt-media bloggers) on this bill. If it was a UN vote on the two state solution, seemingly about to be passed, they’d churn out article after article warning of God’s wrath to befall America at the attempt of dividing His land. They are seemingly oblivious to the fact that they are bequeathing this to their children and grandchildren.

The question though is, has anyone figured out where all this all going to end? I guess all criticism of the state of Israel will soon be outlawed, even when it attacks another country and the conflict sets the region aflame. Taking a page out of the history book, criticism of Israel is being translated into criticism of the Sovereign of the Universe thereby making it a crime against God, even as we have (as outrageous as it is) people claiming the Israel Lobby is “God’s lobby”. Besides, why is criticism of Israel a sin but my criticism of, say, Uzbekistan isn’t?
https://www.americanthinker.com/art...mocrats_antichristian_antiisrael_antigod.html
[They hate God, so they hate Israel.]


Lord Sacks could as well be a little more honest.
I will write out a more complete response in a bit, but in the meantime I would like to answer your question w/one of my own....
are you aware of Israels "Sampson Doctrine" military option?