Karlysymon
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The Hidden Face of Terrorism.
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Right, I remember when ISIS claimed the Paris attacks. However, this has little to do with the reason that people associate Islam with terrorism. Most of the sites that oppose the doctrine of Islam have little to nothing to do with ISIS and everything to do with the doctrine that supports the persona of an Islamic terrorist. Outside of ISIS claiming terror attacks, I don't think that people really take ISIS seriously as a threat and consider the religion of Islam based on the doctrine to be the foundation of the threat that creates the cast referred to as ISIS. Maybe in the very beginning, they did, but it has been years since 9/11 and most people are becoming increasingly skeptical of the media in a way that was not the case maybe at the time when the towers were destroyed. ISIS is just a boogie man. However, this doesn't dissuade people from recognizing the potential the doctrine of Islam has to produce terrorists.
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I'm not sure what you mean by 'employer'. When I hear about Islam, it is always about how the Quran supports acts of terrorism. I have never seen or come across any site discussing the subject of Islamic terrorism that included the person of Osama Bin Laden or ISIS since I began investigating the doctrine of Islam. It is just as much a media manipulation suggesting that this is what the west is basing their opinion of Islam on. I will admit that I believe it is possible that ISIS is a cast performing some kind of reality TV show. However, this has little bearing in absolving the religion of Islam as a threat or a faction capable of terrorism in our present time.
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I'll let you draw your own conclusions.
Bush's 'Patriot Act' Vs Hitler's 'Enabling Act' What's The Difference?
http://www.rense.com/general58/diff.htm
Not much - they both created a 'dual state' legal system, which the CFR is fully aware of:
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/capsule-review/1941-10-01/dual-state
"The Third Reich has been called a dual state, since the normal judicial system coexisted with the arbitrary power of Hitler and the police. Yet, like most areas of public life after the Nazi rise to power in 1933, the German system of justice underwent "coordination" (alignment with Nazi goals). All professional associations involved with the administration of justice were merged into the National Socialist League of German Jurists."
https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005467
"Learn more about how the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) was created through the integration of all or part of 22 different federal departments and agencies into a unified, integrated Department and how DHS has become a more effective Department."
https://www.dhs.gov/who-joined-dhs
Leaked Memo Reveals Soros Plan for Federally Controlled Police
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/30/leaked-soros-memo-federally-controlled-police/
Review on agreements with US DHS & EU countries:
Link to Sweden:
https://www.state.gov/documents/organization/99397.pdf
Link to Germany:
https://www.state.gov/documents/organization/135093.pdf
"U.S. and Germany to Collaborate on Homeland Security Tech"
http://www.govtech.com/em/safety/US-and-Germany-to.html
"Science & Technology Directorate"
https://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/pso_cat_st.pdf
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Okay, if I am going to draw my own conclusion, then I would imagine that your terrorist of choice is associated with the CFR and that the CFR has a connection to the Nazi's in this instance. Whereas, in some cases people have concluded that the same information that you are presenting about the Patriot Act has a connection to Freemasons; and in other cases, it has connections with Zionism.
So, essentially, my conclusion would be that you are characterizing terrorism according to one faction that you have the most information on; or, because you have done the most research into the connection that you are presenting.
However, I would conclude that we are facing terrorists from every angle because of the fact that there is frequently a great deal of disagreement on the foundation of the terrorism taking place. Everyone has an explanation for why things are happening they are and the belief that if more people held their same perspective, there would be change.
Either way, you might like the old radio show that Mae Brussel used to have. I love her and I agree with some of these things that you are saying, even though I don't agree that it creates a conclusion. Mae Brussel talked a lot about the connection between fascism and the death of Kennedy and mind control programs. She is fascinating and worth listening to. Most of her old radio broadcasts are available on YouTube.
Im personally more concerned with the economic terrorism being committed against us every single fucking day by thugs in bankers suits, at board tables, on the senate floor etc.
And the perpetual warfare that is necessary to mantain their ability to perpetrate this.
The likelihood of me being blown up.r shot to death by a "terrorist" is slim. The likelihood of being a victim of the other sort of terrorism is guranteed.
And the perpetual warfare that is necessary to mantain their ability to perpetrate this.
The likelihood of me being blown up.r shot to death by a "terrorist" is slim. The likelihood of being a victim of the other sort of terrorism is guranteed.
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That is correct however somewhat academic. The controllers don't care about ideology, what they care about control. The same people who created Nazi Germany created Communist Russia.
Antony Sutton - Wall Street Financed Communism & Nazism
The Illuminati Plan to Enslave Americans (1969)
"Some of you will think I'm talking about Communism," Dr. Day told the assembly. "Well, what I'm talking about is much bigger than Communism!"
https://www.henrymakow.com/confirmedrockefeller_plan_to_g.html
They do however learn from their experiments & repeat their successes. That's why the the Twin Towers & the 'Patriot Act' resemble the Reichtag Fire & the Enabling Act.
"Josef Mengele was a German Schutzstaffel officer and physician in Auschwitz concentration camp during World War II."
Born: March 16, 1911, Günzburg, Germany
Died: February 7, 1979, Bertioga, São Paulo, Brazil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
Mengele's Skull - Forensic Architecture
https://www.forensic-architecture.org/file/mengeles-skull/
How is it possible that the "Angel of Death" managed to live out his days in Brazil if he was actively being pursued by US & British intelligence?
According to Dr. Fred Bell who worked on the CIA's MK-Ultra & for NASA under Operation Paperclip scientist Werner von Braun, the Rockefellers paid Mengele to conduct experiments on Auschwitz prisoners for their pharmaceutical holdings.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7UjwZXfLpG6ZkZtem0xTTBhS2s/view
"The Rockefellers exercised significant control over the outcomes of these grants and research efforts through the foundations they established. Following the war, Henry Kissinger, who had become General Alexander Bolling's German translator and principle assistant.
(Bolling, of course, was the Godfather to the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency that ran “Project Paperclip,” the secret exfiltration of approximately 2,000 high level Nazis, about 900 of whom were military scientists and medical researchers, including Erich Traub, Hitler's top biological weapons developer and virus expert. Bolling also served as a high ranking member of the Inter-American Defense Board, a Washington based group that delivered Walter Emil Schreiber, Hitler's chief medical scientist, the “Angel of Death” Joseph Mengele, and his assistant, “the butcher of Lyon,” Klaus Barbie, among others, to safe Havens in South America where they worked on CIA projects.)
It was this operation that principally spirited the creation of the CIA as a cover agency for the powerful Gehlen Org, the German intelligence agency run by Reinhard Gehlen—an organization whose power superseded even the Nazi SS because of its prewar connections with German military intelligence. After Hitler, Gehlen served Allen Welsh Dulles, whose “Operation Sunshine” brought Nazis into the U.S. spy service. You may be interested to know who paid for the importation of Nazis into American central intelligence, the military, and industry?
Three groups:
- The first was “The Sovereign Military Order of Malta” (SMOM), perhaps the most powerful reactionary segment of European aristocracy, that for almost a thousand years, starting with the crusades in the Twelfth Century, funded military operations against countries and ideas considered a threat to its power
- Second was the Nazi war chest that was largely funneled through the Vatican and the Rockefeller owned Chase Manhattan Bank, whose Paris branch conducted business as usual throughout the Nazi occupation of France
- Thirdly, some of us and our parents—American taxpayers. Moreover, during this period, the Council on Foreign Relations, along with the CIA, grew in power under the leadership of Nelson Rockefeller, and in 1955, while serving as President Eisenhower's assistant for international affairs, Rockefeller invited Kissinger to discuss national security issues at the Quantico (Virginia) Marine Base"
"A few days before his death, Frank Olson quit his position as acting chief of the Special Operations Division at Detrick, Maryland (later Fort Detrick) because of a severe moral crisis concerning the nature of his biological weapons research. Among Olson's concerns were the development of assassination materials used by the CIA, the CIA's use of biological warfare materials in covert operations, experimentation with biological weapons in populated areas, collaboration with former Nazi scientists under Operation Paperclip, LSD mind-control research, and the use of psychoactive drugs during "terminal" interrogations under a program code-named Project ARTICHOKE."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
Josef Mengele Part of CIA's Trauma Brainwashing
https://www.henrymakow.com/mk-ultra_slave_recalls_torture.html
So what does all of this have to do with terrorism? Werner von Braun predicted 9/11 in 1974. They would use NASA for space based weapons. Because of the Military Industrial Complex's constant need for an enemy, first would be the cold war, then terrorists, then rogue nations, finally asteroids & extraterrestrials.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/10/27/is-a-false-flag-alien-invasion-in-the-works-wernher-von-bruans-colleague-seems-to-think-so/
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Well I very much appreciate your honesty about this. What you are describing relates to the subject of the Sabbatean-Frankist cult that I have been researching recently. I am actually reading some of the writings of Jacob Frank. There is a discussion that it was a revival of neo-Frankism which is derivative of Sabbateanism that produced Nazi's, Communism, and Zionism. Are you familiar with any of this?
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By 'employer', i meant the entity purchasing their 'services'. Okay, Islam could all be inherently violent but that doesn't change the fact that its incredibly hard for the average person to divorce an entity from their supposed belief system, disregarding other factors.
For example, for every single terrorist act attributed to an Arab, since the 90s, let us substitute the Arab/Muslim with, say, a Russian.
Would your argument still hold? We would all search for a reason buttressing Russian terrorism. A real life example would be the IRA in
Northern Ireland, that is actually a designated terrorist group. Should Protestants partly blame Catholicism for the violence, or leave it out all together. And if so, can we apply the same to ISIS?
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Yes but the delite don't care about race, religion or ideology. I'm applying the Nazi model because it explains 9/11, the 'Patriot Act', terrorism, mind control & eugenics.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country." ~ Edward Bernays, "Propaganda," 1928
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I just think that there is a reason that Islam gets characterized as terrorists because the doctrine lends itself in that direction for someone to go. This is a very obvious reality that can't be compared with the hypothetical comparison of exchanging ISIS for Russia. So yes, my argument would still hold. There is a written doctrine regarding Islam that most people dispute. I hear very little about ISIS in these discussions.
Essentially, it could be for the same reason that Christianity ends up with prosperity gospel preachers who buy jets with the money they manipulate people out of like Creflo Dollar. Our doctrine says to give and this is taken advantage of. Islam speaks of showing aggression in many cases and functions as a political entity that is in direct conflict with Libertarian principles in almost every case. It is very easy to create terrorists out of this so when you have something like ISIS presenting itself, it is because it is a believable scenario they are creating that can't be debunked by looking at the doctrine because the doctrine supports the development of extremism in this direction.
Therefore, I do feel obligated to defend people who speak of experiencing harassment because of the influx of refugees in some of the European countries. Their experience and testimony of victimization that is motivated by someone's interpretation of the doctrine of Islam is valid and should be characterized as terrorist. Too often when people introduce the concept of ISIS as though all people in the western world only objected to the presence of ISIS and not their understanding of the doctrine. This creates a generalization that ignores the people who are victimized by what the doctrines promotes and what it does not prevent and the ways in which it does not have the capacity to protect people within a community; and so it is just as much a form of terrorism as the people who would like to exploit this reality.
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You cannot make a movement completely void of either race, religion or ideology. They have to care about one, two, or all three of those things. There is not one single person in this world who will grow into adulthood that will not develop an ideology of some kind and a certain percentage will develop an ideology to include the subject of race or religion or both.
Although, 100% of the time they will care about an ideology of some kind. Even a new ideology will be a combination of the same things that have produced former ideologies. So I don't think it is practical to assume that they are void of concern for race, religion, or ideology because they obviously care about their own perceived ideology.
I would even disagree that the Nazi model explains the same things. It think the communist model does much better but gets much less attention.
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Yes I can & no they don't. What they care about is world domination & they will use any means at their disposal to attain it.
"The United Nations is the greatest fraud in history. It's purpose is to destroy the United States."
- John E. Rankin, U.S. Congressman
"To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to
family traditions, national patriotism, and religious dogmas." ~ Brock Adams, Director UN Health Organization
"We are not going to achieve a New World Order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money."
- Arthur Schlesinger Jr., 'The CFR Journal Foreign Affairs', August 1975.
"A world government can intervene militarily in the internal affairs of any nation when it disapproves of their
activities." - Kofi Annan, U.N. Secretary General
"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA
Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat
from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or promulgated [emphasis mine], that threatened our
very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every
man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for
the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." ~ Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger
Conference, Evians, France, 1991
"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and
Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there
is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent." ~ Congressman
Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets
"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications
whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It
would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of
publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a
world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to
the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." ~ David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral
Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991.
"The idea was that those who direct the overall conspiracy could use the differences in those two so-called
ideologies [marxism/fascism/socialism v. democracy/capitalism] to enable them [the Illuminati] to divide larger and
larger portions of the human race into opposing camps so that they could be armed and then brainwashed into
fighting and destroying each other." ~ Myron Fagan, anti-Communist author
"In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary
organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most
influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the
daily press....They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers.
"An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was
furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness,
militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of
the purchasers." ~ U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway, 1917
"The world can therefore seize the opportunity [Persian Gulf crisis] to fulfill the long-held promise of a New
World Order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of
mankind." ~ President George Herbert Walker Bush
"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority.
National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all." ~ Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of
State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, l992.
"We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent." ~ Statement by Council on
Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th,
l950
"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the
scenes." ~ Benjamin Disraeli, first Prime Minister of England, in a novel he published in 1844 called Coningsby,
the New Generation
"The governments of the present day have to deal not merely with other governments, with emperors, kings and
ministers, but also with the secret societies which have everywhere their unscrupulous agents, and can at the last
moment upset all the governments' plans. " ~ British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli, 1876
"To destroy this invisible Government, to dissolve the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt
politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day. This country belongs to the people. Its resources, its
business, its laws, its institutions, should be utilized, maintained, or altered in whatever manner will best promote
the general interest. ~ Former Republican President Theodore Roosevelt, The Progressive Party (Bull Moose
Party), 1912
"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the
United States, in the Field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power
somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not
speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." ~ Woodrow Wilson,The New Freedom (1913)
"It will avail nothing to discuss in detail the League (of Nations) Covenant which was conceived for world super-
government. In this existing League of Nations World Government with it's superpowers, this Republic will have
no part." ~ Republican President Warren G. Harding, 1920
"The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length
over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen....At the head
of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally
referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United
States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties." ~ New York City
Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922
"From the days of Sparticus, Wieskhopf, Karl Marx, Trotsky, Rosa Luxemberg, and Emma Goldman, this world
conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the
French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at
last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have
gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous
empire." ~ Winston Churchill, stated to the London Press, in l922.
"We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of
the clutches of the local nation states of the world." ~ Professor Arnold Toynbee, in a June l931 speech before the
Institute for the Study of International Affairs in Copenhagen.
"The government of the Western nations, whether monarchical or republican, had passed into the invisible hands
of a plutocracy, international in power and grasp. It was, I venture to suggest, this semioccult power
which....pushed the mass of the American people into the cauldron of World War I."~ British military historian
Major General J.F.C. Fuller, l941
"For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country,
the United States. But, he didn't. Most of his thoughts, his political ammunition, as it were, were carefully
manufactured for him in advanced by the Council on Foreign Relations-One World Money group. Brilliantly, with
great gusto, like a fine piece of artillery, he exploded that prepared "ammunition" in the middle of an unsuspecting
target, the American people, and thus paid off and returned his internationalist political support.
"The UN is but a long-range, international banking apparatus clearly set up for financial and economic profit by a
small group of powerful One-World revolutionaries, hungry for profit and power.
"The depression was the calculated 'shearing' of the public by the World Money powers, triggered by the planned
sudden shortage of supply of call money in the New York money market....The One World Government leaders
and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the
creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank."~ Curtis Dall, FDR's son-in-law as quoted in his book, My
Exploited Father-in-Law
"The bank, Mr. Van Buren, is trying to kill me, but I will kill it." ~ President Andrew Jackson, Said to Martin Van
Buren (8 July 1832)
"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the
Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson." ~ A letter written by Pres. F. D.Roosevelt to Colonel
House, November 21st, l933
"The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes." ~ Supreme Court Justice
Felix Frankfurter, 1952
"Fifty men have run America, and that's a high figure." ~ Joseph Kennedy, father of JFK, in the July 26th, l936
issue of The New York Times.
"Today the path of total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by
the Congress, the President, or the people. Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating
within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government - a bureaucratic
elite." ~ Senator William Jenner, 1954
"The case for government by elites is irrefutable" ~ Senator William Fulbright, Former chairman of the US Senate
Foreign Relations Committee, stated at a 1963 symposium entitled: The Elite and the Electorate - Is Government by
the People Possible?
"The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and
banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission
represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power political,
monetary, intellectual and ecclesiastical. What the Trilateral Commission intends is to create a worldwide economic
power superior to the political governments of the nationstates involved. As managers and creators of the
system ,they will rule the future." ~ U.S. Senator Barry Goldwater in his l964 book: With No Apologies.
"The powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of
financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the
world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in
concert, by secret agreements, arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was
the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds'
central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a
centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect
injury of all other economic groups." ~ Tragedy and Hope: A History of The World in Our Time (Macmillan
Company, 1966,) Professor Carroll Quigley of Georgetown University, highly esteemed by his former student,
William Jefferson Blythe Clinton.
"The Council on Foreign Relations is "the establishment." Not only does it have influence and power in key
decision-making positions at the highest levels of government to apply pressure from above, but it also announces
and uses individuals and groups to bring pressure from below, to justify the high level decisions for converting the
U.S. from a sovereign Constitutional Republic into a servile member state of a one-world dictatorship." ~ Former
Congressman John Rarick, 1971
"The planning of UN can be traced to the 'secret steering committee' established by Secretary [of State Cordell]
Hull in January 1943. All of the members of this secret committee, with the exception of Hull, a Tennessee
politician, were members of the Council on Foreign Relations. They saw Hull regularly to plan, select, and guide
the labors of the [State] Department's Advisory Committee. It was, in effect, the coordinating agency for all the
State Department's postwar planning." ~ Professors Laurence H. Shoup and William Minter, writing in their study
of the CFR, "Imperial Brain Trust: The CFR and United States Foreign Policy." (Monthly Review Press, 1977).
"The most powerful clique in these (CFR) groups have one objective in common: they want to bring about the
surrender of the sovereignty and the national independence of the U.S. They want to end national boundaries and
racial and ethnic loyalties supposedly to increase business and ensure world peace. What they strive for would
inevitably lead to dictatorship and loss of freedoms by the people. The CFR was founded for "the purpose of
promoting disarmament and submergence of U.S. sovereignty and national independence into an all-powerful one-
world government." ~ Harpers Magazine, July l958
"The old world order changed when this war-storm broke. The old international order passed away as suddenly, as
unexpectedly, and as completely as if it had been wiped out by a gigantic flood, by a great tempest, or by a volcanic
eruption. The old world order died with the setting of that day's sun and a new world order is being born while I
speak, with birth-pangs so terrible that it seems almost incredible that life could come out of such fearful suffering
and such overwhelming sorrow." ~ Nicholas Murray Butler, in an address delivered before Union League of
Philadelphia, Nov. 27, 1915
"The peace conference has assembled. It will make the most momentous decisions in history, and upon these
decisions will rest the stability of the new world order and the future peace of the world." ~ M. C. Alexander,
Executive Secretary of the American Association for International Conciliation, in a subscription letter for the
periodical International Conciliation (1919)
"If there are those who think we are to jump immediately into a new world order, actuated by complete
understanding and brotherly love, they are doomed to disappointment. If we are ever to approach that time, it will
be after patient and persistent effort of long duration. The present international situation of mistrust and fear can
only be corrected by a formula of equal status, continuously applied, to every phase of international contacts, until
the cobwebs of the old order are brushed out of the minds of the people of all lands."~ Dr. Augustus O. Thomas,
president of the World Federation of Education Associations (August 1927), quoted in the book International
Understanding: Agencies Educating for a New World (1931)
"... when the struggle seems to be drifting definitely towards a world social democracy, there may still be very great
delays and disappointments before it becomes an efficient and beneficent world system. Countless people ... will
hate the new world order ... and will die protesting against it. When we attempt to evaluate its promise, we have to
bear in mind the distress of a generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking
people." ~ H. G. Wells, in his book entitled The New World Order (1939)
"If totalitarianism wins this conflict, the world will be ruled by tyrants, and individuals will be slaves. If democracy
wins, the nations of the earth will be united in a commonwealth of free peoples, and individuals, wherever found,
will be the sovereign units of the new world order." ~ The Declaration of the Federation of the World, produced by
the Congress on World Federation, adopted by the Legislatures of North Carolina (1941), New Jersey (1942),
Pennsylvania (1943), and possibly other states.
"He [John Foster Dulles] stated directly to me that he had every reason to believe that the Governor [Thomas E.
Dewey of New York] accepts his point of view and that he is personally convinced that this is the policy that he
would promote with great vigor if elected. So it is fair to say that on the first round the Sphinx of Albany has
established himself as a prima facie champion of a strong and definite new world order." Excerpt from article by
Ralph W. Page in The Philadelphia Bulletin (May 1944)
"Alchemy for a New World Order" Article by Stephen John Stedman in Foreign Affairs, CFR (May/June 1995)
"The United Nations, he told an audience at Harvard University, 'has not been able, nor can it be able, to shape a
new world order which events so compellingly demand.' ... The new world order that will answer economic,
military, and political problems, he said, 'urgently requires, I believe, that the United States take the leadership
among all free peoples to make the underlying concepts and aspirations of national sovereignty truly meaningful
through the federal approach.'"~ Gov. Nelson Rockefeller of New York, in an article entitled "Rockefeller Bids
Free Lands Unite: Calls at Harvard for Drive to Build New World Order" -- The New York Times (February
1962)
"The developing coherence of Asian regional thinking is reflected in a disposition to consider problems and
loyalties in regional terms, and to evolve regional approaches to development needs and to the evolution of a new
world order."~ Richard Nixon, in Foreign Affairs, CFR (October 1967)
"If instant world government, Charter review, and a greatly strengthened International Court do not provide the
answers, what hope for progress is there? The answer will not satisfy those who seek simple solutions to complex
problems, but it comes down essentially to this: The hope for the foreseeable lies, not in building up a few
ambitious central institutions of universal membership and general jurisdiction as was envisaged at the end of the
last war, but rather in the much more decentralized, disorderly and pragmatic process of inventing or adapting
institutions of limited jurisdiction and selected membership to deal with specific problems on a case-by-case
basis ... In short, the 'house of world order' will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down.
It will look like a great 'booming, buzzing confusion,' to use William James' famous description of reality, but an
end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned
frontal assault."~ Richard N. Gardner, in Foreign Affairs, CFR (April 1974)
"The existing order is breaking down at a very rapid rate, and the main uncertainty is whether mankind can exert a
positive role in shaping a new world order or is doomed to await collapse in a passive posture. We believe a new
order will be born no later than early in the next century and that the death throes of the old and the birth pangs of
the new will be a testing time for the human species."
Richard A. Falk, in an article entitled "Toward a New World Order: Modest Methods and Drastic Visions," in the
book On the Creation of a Just World Order (1975)
"My country's history, Mr. President, tells us that it is possible to fashion unity while cherishing diversity, that
common action is possible despite the variety of races, interests, and beliefs we see here in this chamber. Progress
and peace and justice are attainable. So we say to all peoples and governments: Let us fashion together a new world
order." ~ Henry Kissinger, in address before the General Assembly of the United Nations, October 1975)
"A New World Order" Title of article on commencement address at the University of Pennsylvania by Hubert H.
Humphrey, printed in the Pennsylvania Gazette (June 1977)
The renewal of the nonproliferation treaty was described as important "for the welfare of the whole world and the
new world order." ~ President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt, in The New York Times (April 1995)
"Further global progress is now possible only through a quest for universal consensus in the movement towards a
new world order." Mikhail Gorbachev, in an address at the United Nations (December 1988)
"We can see beyond the present shadows of war in the Middle East to a new world order where the strong work
together to deter and stop aggression. This was precisely Franklin Roosevelt's and Winston Churchill's vision for
peace for the post-war period." Richard Gephardt, in The Wall Street Journal (September 1990)
"We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order.... When
we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance at this new world order. An order in which a credible
United Nations can use its peace keeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the UN’s founders." ~ President
Geo. H. W. Bush, television address, 9/1990
"How I Learned to Love the New World Order" Article by Sen. Joseph R. Biden, Jr. in The Wall Street Journal
(April 1992)
‘The affirmative task we have now is to create a new world order, because the global order is changing again, and
the institutions of the world worked so well in the post-World War II era for decades, they need to be strengthened,
and some need to be changed."
Vice President Joseph R. Biden, Jr. speech before the Export-Import Bank Conference in Washington, D.C. (April
2013)
"All nations must come together to build a stronger, global regime." ~ President Barrack Obama, Prague, Czech
Republic, 4/5/09
“Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the
United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the
world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that's the
charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
- David Rockefeller, autobiography, "Memoirs," (2002) page 405
They also think that the world is over populated & you are no longer of any value to them.
Dr. Rima Laibow & Major General Albert Stubblebine - The Globalist Agenda
Blair Cottrell - "They want to kill you."
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Essentially, this is what you are suggesting their ideology is while simultaneously suggesting that they don't have one and don't care about one. This statement that you are making here is an ideology. It is also an ideological position that is difficult to prove because it does not hold the same amount of documentation that something like a religion would have as a reference. These quotes that you are using could easily be deceptive of an ideological position that is hidden behind a banner of inclusiveness for the sake of domination. In fact, this is likely the case that there is a hidden ideology creating the sort of motivation necessary for such an endeavor like world domination. Nevertheless, with or without a written form of doctrine describing the ideology behind this the way something like Marxism has, this would still be considered an ideology.
What I think you are trying to say is that they reject other ideological positions that exist and that they exhibit a sort of arrogance that seeks to define themselves as being exempt from the ones who have defined ideologies, religions, and cultures formed within races.
However, even in becoming void of all existing ideologies, religions, or cultural affiliations, you still develop an ideology because an ideology is present in every man, woman, and child 100% of the time. This may change and evolve throughout their life, but it never exists as a void.
Unfortunately, the documentation does not support your theory that they are void of concern of ideology, race, or religion. Admittedly, this is hard to prove. However, this suggestion remains a hypothesis with accompanying documentation that doesn't support this theory directly.
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Criminality is not an ideology. I have no theory, I posted documentation. You can review it when you feel you are ready.
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Determining something to be criminal is based on an ideology and there is always a motivation to commit a crime that would mean that the criminal also had an ideology. I reviewed the documentation. It does not prove they are void of ideology.
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[QUOTE="holmes,
So what does all of this have to do with terrorism? Werner von Braun predicted 9/11 in 1974. They would use NASA for space based weapons. Because of the Military Industrial Complex's constant need for an enemy, first would be the cold war, then terrorists, then rogue nations, finally asteroids & extraterrestrials.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/10/27/is-a-false-flag-alien-invasion-in-the-works-wernher-von-bruans-colleague-seems-to-think-so/[/QUOTE]
Thanks for posting this. This concurs totally with my findings after looking at predictive programming in the music industry.
There will be a surrender to lights in the sky, whether it be asteroids or reverse engineered anti gravity vehicles, or both.
These events are being programmed now, to this generation, so that must mean plans are at a very advanced stage.
I found people's apathy and general unwillingness to consider this a possibility the most frustrating element of my research.
So what does all of this have to do with terrorism? Werner von Braun predicted 9/11 in 1974. They would use NASA for space based weapons. Because of the Military Industrial Complex's constant need for an enemy, first would be the cold war, then terrorists, then rogue nations, finally asteroids & extraterrestrials.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/10/27/is-a-false-flag-alien-invasion-in-the-works-wernher-von-bruans-colleague-seems-to-think-so/[/QUOTE]
Thanks for posting this. This concurs totally with my findings after looking at predictive programming in the music industry.
There will be a surrender to lights in the sky, whether it be asteroids or reverse engineered anti gravity vehicles, or both.
These events are being programmed now, to this generation, so that must mean plans are at a very advanced stage.
I found people's apathy and general unwillingness to consider this a possibility the most frustrating element of my research.
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Are you open to the suggestion that there is a written doctrine that binds all these bodies/organisations together?
The Freemasons and all other factions (Skull and Bones, CFR, UN etc) all adhere strictly to the Kybalion. The 7 Hermetic principles within that book and their interpretation of those principles is the hidden knowledge which apoears to be driving all current agendas in play today.
Freemasonry is the Rothschilds secret army that appears to have a tight stranglehold on the world we live in today
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Yes, I am to a certain extent. I reviewed the Wiki page on it and some of the precepts are similar to the teachings of Karl Marx as well. However, while this may function to provide some unification, this is an essentially harmless book overall. The 7 Hermetic principles are based on the writings of Hermes Trismegistus who was not a nefarious character. The book boasts of things as though someone had to be special to know them.
Newton was fascinated with the same discussions when he was pursuing an understanding of Calculus, which is a mathematical study of motion that is mentioned in the Kybalion and by Marx when he is using a similar discussion to establish his own creation doctrine.
The other one that stood out to me was the principle of cause and effect spoken of in this Kybalion as though it were some secret thing that only an initiate could understand. So secret they had to write the book anonymously. Although, Newton has the copyright to this too because he was able to test and establish that this is true. This is known as Newton's third law of motion which says that For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
This reality points to the fact that Hermeticism was an advanced study of science and the Kybalion is nothing more than a modern form of superstition and arrogance. As a result, it would not surprise if these people felt that knowing something like this made them superior but they can't take credit for it, so they decided to try to make it secret.
If they could take credit for producing some sort of advanced scientific thinking, they would not have to present the impression that only certain people earn the right to this knowledge. Essentially, the Kybalion is the evidence of a bunch of very insecure people. This is something I would entirely believe is contributing to the overall problem. However, the foundation of Hermeticism has little to do with this and the teachings of the Kybalion are probably going to mean very little unless you have never heard of Isaac Newton.
Then, it might seem significant to have these people try to be flashy with information like this. Maybe this is one of the reasons they are trying to dumb people down. An abusive person fantasizes about how smart they become in the presence of ignorant people.
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Thank you & I agree. Alan Watt was in the music industry. He discusses how it is manipulated & this is only a portion of controlled media: