The Hidden Face of Terrorism.

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Orwell's mentor said:
While some have attempted, there’s still no real in-depth, albeit, political, discussion(s) of why the West should live in a state of perpetual fear and what the “war of terror” truly means.
A thread exclusive to terrorism.

"In our modern world, discomforting truths are usually discarded in favour of fictions. One such fiction is the idea that terrorists are disenfranchised dissidents who independently generate the wealth and resources necessary for their heinous acts. Such is the contention of Professor Mark Juergensmeyer. In his article, “Understanding the New Terrorism”, he says that modern terrorism “appears pointless since it does not lead directly to any strategic goal” (p. 158).
Juergensmeyer arrives at this conclusion because he restricts his examination to the visible perpetrators, whose motives may be, in fact, irrational. However, he does not examine the patrons of terrorism....The majority of terrorism throughout history has found its sponsors in the hallowed halls of officialdom, in the entity known as government. Terrorism is surrogate warfare, a manufactured crisis designed to induce social change. Its combatants consciously or unconsciously wage the war on behalf of higher powers with higher agendas. Whether its adherents are aware of it or not, terrorism always serves the ambitions of another."

The Weathermen
 





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I think the terrorism thing is an extension of having MK-ULTRA serial killers like Charles Manson try to traumatize and scare the masses... they want the masses traumatized and scare so they'll be easier to control.... you break the people down and then you can reshape them...

I really wonder if that sort of phenomena will be used to help create the New World Order
Elitist Julian Huxley gave a speech on mind control in 1962. He discussed how the "controlling oligarchy" have used terrorism to control the masses from "time immemorial" but that it only lasts so long. He said they were working on "more scientific" techniques to get the masses to "love their servitude". Audio & transcript:
https://pulsemedia.org/2009/02/02/aldous-huxley-the-ultimate-revolution/
 





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When the line between fact and fiction is blurred; in Designated Survivor (E17), a reporter chasing a story-lead on the bombing goes to Iraq and interviews the terrorists, who promptly inform him that the CIA paid them $5m to take credit for the bombing. In real life, ofcourse, everytime there is an attack, ISIS quickly takes responsibility...

Anyway, perpetual war, perpetual fear and a steady stream of terrorists from beyond.
Perpetual War for Perpetual Evolution Part one, two and three.

"The possibility of war provides the sense of external necessity without which no government can long remain in power. The historical record reveals one instance after another where the failure of a regime to maintain the credibility of a war threat led to its dissolution, by the forces of private interest, of reactions to social injustice, or of other disintegrative elements. The organization of society for the possibility of war is its principal political stabilizer… It has enabled societies to maintain necessary class distinctions, and it has insured the subordination of the citizens to the state by virtue of the residual powers inherent in the concept of nationhood."

Israel seem to have followed this ^ to a T.
 





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I think the reality of terrorism is that there are a lot of terrorists groups today. The problem is that most people feel comfortable with the idea that they can approach the subject of terrorism from a single location with the expectation that if this entity were removed, this would solve the problem.

The real problem is that people can't embrace the complexity of the present reality of terrorism, not that the offenses committed by the government are entirely hidden. We are presently very divided on the subject and this is because most people have in their head a defined source of terrorism, whether it be government, religion, ISIS, Zionists, etc. Everyone has their terrorist persona of choice almost like having a drug of choice, and this is because the pursuit of maturity is much like a swinging pendulum where we form opinions based on the information that we are able to humanly contain at the time.

As this amount fluctuates and integrates with new information, we can form polarizing opinions to the ones that we previously held because of this. This is one of the reasons that control of the media is so important because we all have information limits. They is why we should oppose censorship and there are many perpetrators of censorship in the world. Censorship is not isolated to the western control of major media outlets. For most countries in the world, censorship is government sponsored and doesn't exist as the covert monopolization of media.

In any case, censorship limits the opportunity for intellectual growth and this limitations prevents the development of a complex understanding of the subject of terrorism that is necessary in the world today.
 





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For me it's very simple. Like there is no beyond this simplicity I have defined. Limitations or not, people should be asking themselves the same thing I did. How can you listen to the people who are proven wrong time and time again? Literally every time the Government or Media says anything it's proven wrong, or it's all gossip.

I think it's a choice people are making. One built out of nothing more than convenience. It takes effort to start asking questions, and you have to have guts to even speak anymore. The media could start telling people 100% truth and it wont even matter. The average attention span in the developed world is so short. They could just spill all the classified shit, and people will brush it aside. Or they will make excuses for themselves.

I watched all the brainwashing movies as a kid. I fell for all the same stuff, and they probably terrorized me more than anyone. Yet here I am, trying to serve up pile drivers. What I'm saying is, it can't be that difficult to wake up.
 





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The real problem is that people can't embrace the complexity of the present reality of terrorism, not that the offenses committed by the government are entirely hidden.

In any case, censorship limits the opportunity for intellectual growth and this limitations prevents the development of a complex understanding of the subject of terrorism that is necessary in the world today.
I think the real problem is that people have trouble comprehending the complexity of the power elite & what lengths they are willing to go to in order to maintain power. This is were we blur the lines between the Bush family & terrorism. Prescott Bush was indicted for Trading with the Enemy Act during WWII for funding Nazi Germany. He also was implicated in an attempted US coup d'état in 1933 referred to as the "The Business Plot":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

So how did we almost end up with 3 of them as US Presidents? And why did Obama embraced the same strategy as the Bush family in regards to immigration when they supposedly are on two polar opposite sides of political ideology?

Barack Obama says Angela Merkel 'on right side of history' over pro-refugee stance
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-...istory-over-refugee-stance-obama-says/7354418


He also embraced the Bush created NAFTA. Both BushII & Obama adminstrations embraced this policy right through an alledged "War On Terror" as if trade were mored important than national security. This would make no sense if they both really were who they claim to be.
 





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I think the real problem is that people have trouble comprehending the complexity of the power elite & what lengths they are willing to go to in order to maintain power. This is were we blur the lines between the Bush family & terrorism. Prescott Bush was indicted for Trading with the Enemy Act during WWII for funding Nazi Germany. He also was implicated in an attempted US coup d'état in 1933 referred to as the "The Business Plot":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

So how did we almost end up with 3 of them as US Presidents? And why did Obama embraced the same strategy as the Bush family in regards to immigration when they supposedly are on two polar opposite sides of political ideology?

Barack Obama says Angela Merkel 'on right side of history' over pro-refugee stance
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-...istory-over-refugee-stance-obama-says/7354418


He also embraced the Bush created NAFTA. Both BushII & Obama adminstrations embraced this policy right through an alledged "War On Terror" as if trade were mored important than national security. This would make no sense if they both really were who they claim to be.
Yes, I think you are right. Many people don't usually spend a lot of time considering the sort of abuse people are capable of. The Bush family are despicable. I literally picture venom dripping from Bush Sr. mouth when I listen to old speeches. There are a couple testimonies that say he is a p***phile and I believe them too. I just think he is such a dirty man.

However, the elite's pursuit of power at all costs is not new or unique. The majority of the countries in the world have always had some form of class system that has been maintained through many of the same methods throughout history and even in the present time.

We just have a lot more awareness of this through the advancement of communication devices so that local communities can develop more polarizing ideas based on the increased amount of information that has disrupted communities in some ways. The western world is where most of the advancements in communication have been developed and this has led to some degree of dominance that the same type of people that have always existed want to exploit. So it looks new, but it is essentially the same thing.

China has its own elite class that doesn't protect the people from being victimized in sweatshops and they have even placed a ban on buying Bibles through online markets censoring and restricting the people's freedom of religion. South Africa has been in the news lately about murders and the racial tensions. There is terrorism happening all over the world right now. However, many of these forms of terrorism don't have the same means of communication to expand their reach the way some of the elite in the western world do. That doesn't mean that many of these people wouldn't do the same if they were capable of it.

So I think what is happening is that people are becoming more aware of how we are terrorized and pick a sort of terrorism of choice and I don't think it can be generalized as saying that people in the west don't realize that people in our government commit acts of terrorism as the core of the problem. There are more than enough people who do realize this, and this is evidenced by the present divisions that are being created right now.

I find that most of the time when people are making generalizations where they are painting one terrorist as the true enemy, they are simultaneously trying to defend the terrorist that someone else is trying to paint as the true enemy. In reality, both terrorists can be terrorists and/or terrorizing people. In many cases, I believe this to be true because I don't find most systems of morality or legal structure to be enough to make the nature of human beings into something entirely good and capable to be trusted.

Terrorism is similar to the experience of abuse at the most basic level. A person who is actively being abused, like a wife being beat by her husband, has greater difficulty finding clarity to make sense of what is happening than a person who is removed from the situation and enjoying a linear experience that is void of the experience of abuse. So the same advancements that make it possible for the elite to try to dominate a larger area, also provide more clarity for those of us who could be compared with the victim in this scenario.

The increasing awareness afforded by this will lead to its inevitable end. However, it might also get worse before it gets better.
 





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I find that most of the time when people are making generalizations where they are painting one terrorist as the true enemy, they are simultaneously trying to defend the terrorist that someone else is trying to paint as the true enemy. In reality, both terrorists can be terrorists and/or terrorizing people. In many cases, I believe this to be true because I don't find most systems of morality or legal structure to be enough to make the nature of human beings into something entirely good and capable to be trusted.

The increasing awareness afforded by this will lead to its inevitable end. However, it might also get worse before it gets better.
Of course we can't make the generalization that all terrorism is created by controlling interests & powers behind governments just like we can't say that all terrorism is created by a misguided sense of injustice or religious fervor. What we can do is investigate to what degree these controlling interests manipulate the populace to incite acts of violence for their own agendas.

"Operation Gladio is undisputed historical fact. Gladio was part of a post-World War II program set up by the CIA and NATO supposedly to thwart future Soviet/communist invasions or influence in Italy and Western Europe. In fact, it became a state-sponsored right-wing terrorist network, involved in false flag operations and the subversion of democracy."

Those state sponsored terrorist networks caused the deaths of innocent civilians to fulfill a political agenda & that sponsorship came from within our own government.
http://www.truthmove.org/content/operation-gladio/

Veterans Today goes on to say:
"Any serious effort by any investigative journalist who tries to report in the Mainstream Media that mind-control is the missing link in all world terrorism and mass-shootings (which just happen to occur in gun-free zones) is quickly neutralized."
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/22/extinction-level-threat-mind-control-the-missing-link/

That maybe be a little too inclusive to be completely accurate but they make a point that requires more investigation if we wish to understand the true source.

According to CIA Officer Kevin Shipp, the Council On Foreign Relations which is a non-government organization, created the CIA.
GOING DEEP: Lecture on the Deep State & Shadow Government
Part 1: https://www.bitchute.com/video/1DISq2Hyhj79
Part 2: https://www.bitchute.com/video/iYbACQIoQsIH
Part 3: https://www.bitchute.com/video/JYiBkiNb8PFj

A better understanding of the CFR's objectives might give us a better understanding of why they may wish to encourage civil unrest.

"Here’s what he said about the United States – remember he was an historian and a philosopher to an extent, HEAVILY involved in the world government scenario and gave speeches across the planet back in the ‘30s and even before that – he was talking about how the U.S. was set up to take over from Britain as the policeman of the WORLD to bring in the world system, the world government - and he talked about how it would FALTER, just like Rome, and rise for a while and appear to be all conquering, and then fall again and then rise once more, each one is like a smaller wave until it would just fall apart within. He said, “The U.S. will set a record in the rate of rise and fall of an empire. Between wide open boarders and the fall of the dollar, and the growing population against the declining resource base, it will be defeated from within. Mobs will rule the streets in the nation that is now the third largest in the world, and unable to support its population except by taking resources from other countries.” That comes from a guy who was up there with the Royal Institute of International Affairs, The Council on Foreign Relations, The Cecil Rhodes Foundations, The Lord Milner Group, the big boys that really run the show for world government."

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix...._The_DObama_Lama_and_the_Sheep_Nov072008.html

Arnold J. Toynbee gave this speech at All Souls College in 1962. Though he was talking specifically about the US, the same strategy applies to all of western civilization which will become clear. Toynbee was a major influence on the Royal Institute of International Affairs/Chatham House for nearly forty years. Chatham House's sister organization is the US Council On Foreign Relations, it says so on their website:

https://www.chathamhouse.org/about/history

This is an article still posted at one of the CFR's own websites:

"... but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault. The hopeful aspect of the present situation is that even as nations resist appeals for "world government" and "the surrender of sovereignty," technological, economic and political interests are forcing them ... "As in the case of the U.S. Constitution, we are more likely to make progress by pressing the existing instrument to the outer limits of its potentialities through creative use, seeking amendments only on carefully selected matters where they seem both necessary and capable of adoption by the constitutionally required majority." ~ Council on Foreign Relations, Foreign Affairs, April 1974

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/24506/richard-n-gardner/the-hard-road-to-world-order
 





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Of course we can't make the generalization that all terrorism is created by controlling interests & powers behind governments just like we can't say that all terrorism is created by a misguided sense of injustice or religious fervor. What we can do is investigate to what degree these controlling interests manipulate the populace to incite acts of violence for their own agendas.
That's true. To always ask, cui bono?

For example, what does ISIS actually gain from the attacks it supposedly carries out in Europe? It had large swathes of the Levant under its control, why terrorize the European populace? It will never politically take over the continent, so there isn't any real short or long term gain to warrant the attacks. Does it just want to spill blood, maybe. On the other hand, the attacks are always a god-send for the ruling elite, to further oppress the common man, and that is alittle too convinient.


Veterans Today goes on to say:
"Any serious effort by any investigative journalist who tries to report in the Mainstream Media that mind-control is the missing link in all world terrorism and mass-shootings (which just happen to occur in gun-free zones) is quickly neutralized."
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/22/extinction-level-threat-mind-control-the-missing-link/
"A. U.S. Navy psychologist claims that the Office of Naval Intelligence had taken convicted murderers from military prisons,used
behavior modification techniques on them, and then relocated them in American embassies throughout the world... The Navy psychologist was Lt. Commander Thomas Narut of the U.S. Regional Medical Center in Naples, Italy. The information was divulged at an Oslo NATO conference of 120 psychologists from the eleven nation alliance. . .The Navy provided all the funding necessary, according to Narut. Dr. Narut, in a question and answer session with reporters from many nations, revealed how the Navy was secretly programming large numbers of assassins. He said that the men he had worked with for the Navy were being prepared for commando-type operations, aswell as covert operations in U.S. embassies worldwide. He described the men who went through his program as ‘hit men and assassins’ who could kill on command. Careful screening of the subjects was accomplished by Navy psychologists through the military records. . .and many were convicted murderers serving military prison sentences."
(Programmed to Kill)

That conference took place in July 1975!
 





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That's true. To always ask, cui bono?
For example, what does ISIS actually gain from the attacks it supposedly carries out in Europe? It had large swathes of the Levant under its control, why terrorize the European populace? It will never politically take over the continent, so there isn't any real short or long term gain to warrant the attacks. Does it just want to spill blood, maybe.
On the other hand, the attacks are always a god-send for the ruling
elite, to further oppress the common man, and that is a little too
convenient.
The EU's "Barcelona Declaration": http://www.iemed.org/actualitat-en/noticies/20e-aniversari-del-proces-de-barcelona/

& the following "Union for the Mediterranean": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_for_the_Mediterranean

It would appear that the EU is intent on expanding their territory at the expense of their populace but is there is bigger agenda?

According to Dr. Dennis Cuddy, there is:
The Power Elite and The Secret Nazi Plan

Not so far fetched considering the EU itself was a Nazi plan:
Nazis created 'basic plan' for European Union, Ukip MEP Gerard Batten says
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ion-ukip-mep-gerard-batten-says-a7032221.html


The Muslim Brotherhood, Nazis and al-Qaeda by John Loftus
https://canadafreepress.com/2006/loftus101106.htm


According to Loftus, the evil British intel tricked the CIA except .. I already showed the connection between UK Royal Institute of International Affairs & the US Council On Foreign Relations; Shipp said the CFR created the CIA, according to Alan Watt, Chatham House (RIOIA) created Mi6.
Both are non-governmental organizations with connections to intel.


"Nevertheless, Donovan began to lay the groundwork for a centralized intelligence program. It was he who organized the COI's New York headquarters in Room 3603 of Rockefeller Center in October 1941 and asked Allen Dulles to head it; the offices Dulles took were on the floor immediately above the location of the operations of Britain's MI6."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Donovan

The precursor to the CIA originally set up their home office in the Rockefeller Center where Mi6 already had an office. Pretty cozy considering David Rockefeller was the Honorary Chairman of the CFR.

A list of CFR members form 2009 to 2013 - a lot of government employees for a non-governmental organization:
https://swprs.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/cfr-administration-members-1900-2014.pdf


But they don't just invite politicians, they also invite people in the media who deliver your information to you:
The American Empire and its Media
https://swprs.org/the-american-empire-and-its-media/


The CIA & the Nazis have never been all that isolated from each other:
The CIA and Nazi War Criminals - The National Security Archive
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB146/index.htm


Which is why I brought up the Bush family's connection to the Nazis - remember that George H. W. Bush was the first US President to have intel connections - he was the Director of the CIA. Remember his New World Order speech to the nation concerning the UN:

According to American Intelligence Media, the CIA has controlled the White House since G.H.W. Bush was elected.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCv0dEcvXLOf4ZFvjCahK4Lw?&ab_channel=AmericanIntelligenceMedia

Dr. Joseph Farrell on Hidden Finance, 9/11 & Nazi International
 





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The EU's "Barcelona Declaration": http://www.iemed.org/actualitat-en/noticies/20e-aniversari-del-proces-de-barcelona/

& the following "Union for the Mediterranean": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_for_the_Mediterranean

It would appear that the EU is intent on expanding their territory at the expense of their populace but is there is bigger agenda?

According to Dr. Dennis Cuddy, there is:
The Power Elite and The Secret Nazi Plan

Not so far fetched considering the EU itself was a Nazi plan:
Nazis created 'basic plan' for European Union, Ukip MEP Gerard Batten says
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ion-ukip-mep-gerard-batten-says-a7032221.html


The Muslim Brotherhood, Nazis and al-Qaeda by John Loftus
https://canadafreepress.com/2006/loftus101106.htm


According to Loftus, the evil British intel tricked the CIA except .. I already showed the connection between UK Royal Institute of International Affairs & the US Council On Foreign Relations; Shipp said the CFR created the CIA, according to Alan Watt, Chatham House (RIOIA) created Mi6.
Both are non-governmental organizations with connections to intel.


"Nevertheless, Donovan began to lay the groundwork for a centralized intelligence program. It was he who organized the COI's New York headquarters in Room 3603 of Rockefeller Center in October 1941 and asked Allen Dulles to head it; the offices Dulles took were on the floor immediately above the location of the operations of Britain's MI6."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Donovan

The precursor to the CIA originally set up their home office in the Rockefeller Center where Mi6 already had an office. Pretty cozy considering David Rockefeller was the Honorary Chairman of the CFR.

A list of CFR members form 2009 to 2013 - a lot of government employees for a non-governmental organization:
https://swprs.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/cfr-administration-members-1900-2014.pdf


But they don't just invite politicians, they also invite people in the media who deliver your information to you:
The American Empire and its Media
https://swprs.org/the-american-empire-and-its-media/


The CIA & the Nazis have never been all that isolated from each other:
The CIA and Nazi War Criminals - The National Security Archive
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB146/index.htm


Which is why I brought up the Bush family's connection to the Nazis - remember that George H. W. Bush was the first US President to have intel connections - he was the Director of the CIA. Remember his New World Order speech to the nation concerning the UN:

According to American Intelligence Media, the CIA has controlled the White House since G.H.W. Bush was elected.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCv0dEcvXLOf4ZFvjCahK4Lw?&ab_channel=AmericanIntelligenceMedia

Dr. Joseph Farrell on Hidden Finance, 9/11 & Nazi International
The Fourth Reich is alive and well, on both sides of the pond.
No wonder independence/secessionist movements aren't successful. Brexit and Trump were always mentioned in the same breath, guess we shouldn't expect much from the "Trump revolution".
 





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The Fourth Reich is alive and well, on both sides of the pond.
No wonder independence/secessionist movements aren't successful. Brexit and Trump were always mentioned in the same breath, guess we shouldn't expect much from the "Trump revolution".
Maybe. The world changed after 9/11. Many countries got some form of the 'Patriot Act'. But it didn't pop up out of nowhere. It was first introduced in 1995, 3 months prior to the OKC bombing, then they tried it again afterwards. It failed both times. It was introduced by Democrats during the Clinton administration.

Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Counterterrorism_Act_of_1995


It contained the words "weapons of mass destruction - sound familiar?

S.390 - Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995
https://www.congress.gov/bill/104th-congress/senate-bill/390/text


BLOCKBUSTER! - Deep Black Ops Contractor Exposes OKC! - 12/17

The Project for the New American Century (PNAC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

2000: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor."

"By the end of 2006, PNAC was "reduced to a voice-mail box and a ghostly website [with a] single employee … left to wrap things up", according to a correspondent at the BBC News."

17 of the original 25 signators were in the G.W. Bush administration. The co-founder & chairman was Bill Kristol.

Lynn de Rotschild recently deleted her twitter account:

This is a tweet sent to Bill Kristol from Lynn de Rothschild captured on the Wayback Machine website sent Oct 9 , 2017:

"Bravo @BillKristol; please rally the @GOP to do the right thing and remove @realDonaldTrump; he should be in jail not the White House"


One of the signators of PNAC was Jeb Bush.

Jeb Bush's 9/11 problem
http://www.madcowprod.com/2015/09/04/jeb-bushs-911-problem/

Jeb's problem is Robert Mueller's problem - & a lot of other people's problem.
 





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That's true. To always ask, cui bono?
For example, what does ISIS actually gain from the attacks it supposedly carries out in Europe? It had large swathes of the Levant under its control, why terrorize the European populace? It will never politically take over the continent, so there isn't any real short or long term gain to warrant the attacks. Does it just want to spill blood, maybe.
On the other hand, the attacks are always a god-send for the ruling
elite, to further oppress the common man, and that is alittle too
convinient.




"A. U.S. Navy psychologist claims that the Office of Naval
Intelligence had taken convicted murderers from military prisons, used
behavior modification techniques on
them, and then relocated them in American embassies throughout the
world... The Navy psychologist
was Lt. Commander Thomas Narut of
the U.S. Regional Medical Center
in Naples, Italy. The information was divulged at an Oslo NATO
conference of 120 psychologists from
the eleven nation alliance. . .The
Navy provided all the funding
necessary, according to Narut. Dr. Narut, in a question and answer session with reporters from many nations, revealed how the Navy was secretly programming large numbers of assassins. He said that the men he had worked with for the Navy were being prepared for commando-type operations, aswell as covert operations in U.S. embassies worldwide. He described the men who went through his program as ‘hit men and assassins’ who could kill on command. Careful screening of the
subjects was accomplished by
Navy psychologists through the military records. . .and many were
convicted murderers serving military
prison sentences."
(Programmed to Kill)

That conference took place in July 1975!
The thing is that ISIS is a very small part of the picture. Most people that I talk to think there are Islamic terrorists because of Islamic doctrine. I hear the word ISIS very seldom. I don't think most people take ISIS seriously at all. It all has to do with their understanding of Islamic doctrine that they come to understand the subject of Islamic terrorism. The attacks in Europe are not even affiliated with the subject of ISIS. They usually has something to do with the subject of refugess which is related to the subject of the doctrine within Islam.

Islamic groups not affiliated with ISIS in any way, shape, or form have been saying that they would like to overtake the west as well. They are obviously not a real threat to this with a somewhat barbaric approach that is plain and obvious, but that is reality. Islamic terrorism is a real thing. They are just not the only terrorists in the world right now.
 





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Of course we can't make the generalization that all terrorism is created by controlling interests & powers behind governments just like we can't say that all terrorism is created by a misguided sense of injustice or religious fervor. What we can do is investigate to what degree these controlling interests manipulate the populace to incite acts of violence for their own agendas.

"Operation Gladio is undisputed historical fact. Gladio was part of a post-World War II program set up by the CIA and NATO supposedly to thwart future Soviet/communist invasions or influence in Italy and Western Europe. In fact, it became a state-sponsored right-wing terrorist network, involved in false flag operations and the subversion of democracy."

Those state sponsored terrorist networks caused the deaths of innocent civilians to fulfill a political agenda & that sponsorship came from within our own government.
http://www.truthmove.org/content/operation-gladio/

Veterans Today goes on to say:
"Any serious effort by any investigative journalist who tries to report in the Mainstream Media that mind-control is the missing link in all world terrorism and mass-shootings (which just happen to occur in gun-free zones) is quickly neutralized."
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/22/extinction-level-threat-mind-control-the-missing-link/

That maybe be a little too inclusive to be completely accurate but they make a point that requires more investigation if we wish to understand the true source.

According to CIA Officer Kevin Shipp, the Council On Foreign Relations which is a non-government organization, created the CIA.
GOING DEEP: Lecture on the Deep State & Shadow Government
Part 1: https://www.bitchute.com/video/1DISq2Hyhj79
Part 2: https://www.bitchute.com/video/iYbACQIoQsIH
Part 3: https://www.bitchute.com/video/JYiBkiNb8PFj

A better understanding of the CFR's objectives might give us a better understanding of why they may wish to encourage civil unrest.

"Here’s what he said about the United States – remember he was an historian and a philosopher to an extent, HEAVILY involved in the world government scenario and gave speeches across the planet back in the ‘30s and even before that – he was talking about how the U.S. was set up to take over from Britain as the policeman of the WORLD to bring in the world system, the world government - and he talked about how it would FALTER, just like Rome, and rise for a while and appear to be all conquering, and then fall again and then rise once more, each one is like a smaller wave until it would just fall apart within. He said, “The U.S. will set a record in the rate of rise and fall of an empire. Between wide open boarders and the fall of the dollar, and the growing population against the declining resource base, it will be defeated from within. Mobs will rule the streets in the nation that is now the third largest in the world, and unable to support its population except by taking resources from other countries.” That comes from a guy who was up there with the Royal Institute of International Affairs, The Council on Foreign Relations, The Cecil Rhodes Foundations, The Lord Milner Group, the big boys that really run the show for world government."

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix...._The_DObama_Lama_and_the_Sheep_Nov072008.html

Arnold J. Toynbee gave this speech at All Souls College in 1962. Though he was talking specifically about the US, the same strategy applies to all of western civilization which will become clear. Toynbee was a major influence on the Royal Institute of International Affairs/Chatham House for nearly forty years. Chatham House's sister organization is the US Council On Foreign Relations, it says so on their website:

https://www.chathamhouse.org/about/history

This is an article still posted at one of the CFR's own websites:

"... but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault. The hopeful aspect of the present situation is that even as nations resist appeals for "world government" and "the surrender of sovereignty," technological, economic and political interests are forcing them ... "As in the case of the U.S. Constitution, we are more likely to make progress by pressing the existing instrument to the outer limits of its potentialities through creative use, seeking amendments only on carefully selected matters where they seem both necessary and capable of adoption by the constitutionally required majority." ~ Council on Foreign Relations, Foreign Affairs, April 1974

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/24506/richard-n-gardner/the-hard-road-to-world-order
I see what you are saying, I am just not seeing what the conclusion is to what you are saying. What would that be?
 





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Terrorism is similar to the experience of abuse at the most basic level. A person who is actively being abused, like a wife being beat by her husband, has greater difficulty finding clarity to make sense of what is happening than a person who is removed from the situation and enjoying a linear experience that is void of the experience of abuse. So the same advancements that make it possible for the elite to try to dominate a larger area, also provide more clarity for those of us who could be compared with the victim in this scenario.
"Terrorism is the purposeful display of chaos and fear that arises from the radical disturbance of the normal, daily patterns and social routines of the enemy with the intent of achieving an alteration in the psyche of the target populace.Psychological warfare manuals of the Army and CIA even detail the scientific specifics of how to position cameras, news stories, the artistic layout of propaganda pamphlets, etc., to such a detailed degree that the mass populace will never fathom."

It is that heightened state of distress that is siezed upon and in the case of the Bataclan (Paris) attacks, ISIS claimed responsibility, a state of emergency was immediately declared...."which involved the banning of public demonstrations, and allowing the police to carry out
searches without a warrant, put anyone under house arrest without trial and block websites that encouraged acts of terrorism."
Renewed a couple of times,
“France
has become so addicted to the state of emergency that it is now injecting several of these abusive measures into ordinary law.”


As the final result of the attacks, i don't see how a terror group would waste time and resources to achieve this, which isn't beneficial to them nor the general populace. Also, ISIS as a bogeyman seems to have run out of steam, so was should probably expect a "new face."
 





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Islamic terrorism is a real thing. They are just not the only terrorists in the world right now.
All the terrorist attacks thus far have been related in some shape and or form to ISIS and or Al Qaeda, which we all know have had their beginnings and creation deeply entrenched with not Muslims but the US.

What are your thoughts on Christian terrorism, Rainerann?
 





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As the final result of the attacks, i don't see how a terror group would waste time and resources to achieve this, which isn't beneficial to them nor the general populace. Also, ISIS as a bogeyman seems to have run out of steam, so was should probably expect a "new face."
Every Muslim I have ever discussed with and myself as well always ask the question that why doesn't Al Qaeda, ISIS, and other supposed Islamic terrorist groups ever attack Israel which is right beside them and their greatest supposed enemy? Instead they fly over seas, go through checks, and so much more work only to attack innocent people that will benefit them in no way. You would think that an international terrorist regime which probably has a lot of funds would go for government officials and states rather than attack a few innocent average people grocery shopping.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-fake-al-qaeda-propganda-videos-a7348371.html
 





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I don't think most people take ISIS seriously at all. It all has to do with their understanding of Islamic doctrine that they come to understand the subject of Islamic terrorism.
ISIS merely picked up where Al Queada left off. So am i to assume no one took Bin Laden seriously?

Doctrine is something that the 'employer' takes into account.
 





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