The Fascists have infilitrated "the Left"

[vancityeagle]

"QAnon type myths"...ahhh, I see.

You are a shill.

Begone.

But also, don't forget: BEHOLD. View attachment 35855

Anyone pushing Q anon is a shill.

Or just really dumb.

Which one are you ?

 

[Faker He-Man]

Anyone pushing Q anon is a shill.

Or just really dumb.

Which one are you ?

Just extremely gullible, more than likely. You’ll see there will be some things they have correct, certain celbrit!es have already been arrested, arraigned, and released.. Thpusands of Children were reskued from underground facilities.. to name a couple, BUT they are also mostly a horde of gullible dupes who rely on a type of hive-mind construct as a substitute for actual awareness. IF these events do become public sometime I’m sure it will go straight to their heads hahaha. I prefer to just let them assume they already know everything since all they can do is act as a mere follower while calling all others who happen to question their narrative the “sheep”. It’s been one of the funniest things to witness as this all slowly unfolds.

 

[justjess]

It is not a prerequisite for membership on this website that you believe in the q anon theory or any one specific conspiracy theory at all.

I’m sorry I don’t buy it that trump is some angel sent from god to destroy pedophiles when he has a well documented history of keeping company with men like Jeffrey Epstein.

 

[Come2Islam]

Ah, but Christian America has no intention of using them unless they have to, whereas the Muslim terrorist world dreams of getting its hands on nukes to toast us all..
Below: Osama Bin Laden responding to the question "Are you trying to acquire chemical and nuclear weapons?" in Time Magazine Dec 1998-
"Acquiring weapons for the defense of Muslims is a religious duty. If I have indeed acquired these weapons, then I thank Allah for enabling me to do so. And if I seek to acquire these weapons, I am carrying out a duty. It would be a sin for Muslims not to try to possess the weapons that would prevent the infidels from inflicting harm on Muslims."

"We--with Allah's help--call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with Allah's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson." - Feb1998 Bin Laden edict

Like I said, Obama and his babe Hillary gave Iran permission to build nuke materials, they must have been nutty.
No doubt Trump has got the co-ordinates of the sites below programmed into his cruise missiles and drones and his finger is itching to press the "launch" button if Iran finally gets too big for its boots..

Merchants of Death doing what they do best. G. Bush Jrn got his weapons of mass destruction in Iraq right ?.

 

[Faker He-Man]

You two are really, really stupid.

I dunno if you realize this but...

YOU'RE ON THE VIGILANT CITIZEN FORUM.

No one here is going to buy your bullshit.
No one here that MATTERS, anyway.
So, like, just STFU and go away.

FRAUDS.
SHILLS.
POSERS.
WHORES.
GHOULS.

Welcome to our forum! Are you mostly here to strut around like a peacock? Please carry on, and thanks for the entertainment.

 

[Lurker]

You two are really, really stupid.

I dunno if you realize this but...

YOU'RE ON THE VIGILANT CITIZEN FORUM.

No one here is going to buy your bullshit.
No one here that MATTERS, anyway.
So, like, just STFU and go away.

FRAUDS.
SHILLS.
POSERS.
WHORES.
GHOULS.

Of the choices, I'll camp with the ghouls.

 

[Lurker]

frauds shills whores and ghouls to the tune of gypsies tramps and thieves

Next on the plat list.

 

[Faker He-Man]

Wait, so...

There are actually people here, at the VC forum, who are SOOOOOO stupid that they STILL think QAnon isn't real?

Nah.

You're just sock puppets.

Go fuck yourselves.

You should be aware that there is an entire team of stooges (actors) being paid a ton of money to promote the disinformation you’re following. You don’t really need that garbage, you’re just chasing the dopamine high that it is designed to give you. You have a mind of your own. Use it. Don’t be a dupe.

 

[vancityeagle]

here is the Hill again suggesting the "populist" left and right alliance.

they keep pushing this fake idea that Trump somehow represents "populism" and that he is being held back by establishment Republicans.

 

[justjess]

Did you come on a website just to call people idiots? Idiot.

 

[Awoken2]

I am sure there are paid Q propagandists, yep. And I respect them. Because QAnon is so very clearly now NOT bullshit. Do you idiots not realize what that Bob Dylan song meant? It wasn't just Dylan outing himself as a full-on Q truther. It was also Dylan CONFIRMING THAT Q IS A THING. You fools think JFK Jr. ISN'T alive? Hahahaha, morons.

If QAnon is where all the hot info is going down wtf are you wasting your time on here?

You're obviously a much higher caliber sleuth/investigator/conspiracy theorist than the eejits that knock about here.....go......go forth to QAnon where the top brains of the world are forming the resistance.

 

[A.J.]

"Leftist discourse" would be the popular general thoughts and ideas of those who consider themselves Left. Politicians have helped shift the discourse, but so have journalists, commentators, media, organizations and grass roots movements.

Examples, there are plenty.

Politicians: Bernie Sanders, Ralph Nader, Dennis Kucinic, AOC, Illhan Omar, Jesse Ventura, Tulsi Gabbard, Elizabeth Warren, Paul Wellstone

Commentators/Journalists/Media: Young Turks, Jimmy Dore, Russia Today, Kyle Kulinski, Sam Seder, Michael Parenti, Chris Hedges, The Real News, The Intercept, Mehdi Hassan, Noam Chomsky, John Pilger, Webster Tarpley, Professor Richard Wolff,

I've probably missed many other examples but off the top of my head these people have contributed over the years to what could be called "leftist discourse"

this doesn't mean I agree with everything these people have said or done, but they have got many things right in certain instances, regardless of their motive.



I agree that virutally everyone is controlled on some level, but I dont think I'm picking on the wrong people at all. I'm pointing out those on the left who appear to be uniting with Fascists, and that to me is inexcusable.


He's another Russia-Gate denier is he not ? Also another who loves to go on Tucker Carlson ? He's also a Julian Assange fanboy, and Assange is another supposed progressive who likes to cozy up to fascists.

I can agree with Greenwald on certain things, but he certainly would not be a go to for me in terms of top sources on information or analysis. Yes I think he is compromised.

So you see Russia as our biggest existential threat? I think Putin fears the deep state and the global elite as Russia’s biggest existential threat.
General Flynn, a Democrat, was challenging the deep state when he served under Obama where he was a counter to Brennan. Of course RT is going to promote Russia’s interests first. But why is Russia more of a threat than Saudi Arabia, or Iran, or Israel or China or North Korea? Pick your poison I guess. I think the globalists who transcend nations and borders are every humans biggest existential threat. They are the deep state and they own the US gov, our intelligence agencies, our banking systems, our law enforcement at the highest level. Those are the biggest threats. I think more of the left are aligned with those interests. But maybe I’m wrong.
I think Gen Flynn is one of our more trust worthy guys and he got railroaded pretty hard. Where do you fall on this? Please watch the video. If you feel this is too off topic feel free to disregard....

Oh yeah, Q is a joke ..... trust the plan


Bush=Satanic new world order (Clinton, Obama, etc.)

So you believe since Mate’ and Dore counter Russia-Russia-Russia they are Russian assets? Ok, so you fall on both sides of the political establishment on this issue. You align with the Lindsey Grahams and the John McCains. The Mitt Romneys, the Boltons, etc.... you realize that, right? Your views on this align perfectly with TED CRUZ, lol....

If Mate tells the truth he’s a Russian asset?

These Questions for Mueller Show Why Russiagate Was Never the Answer

The former special counsel still has a lot he can clarify.

www.thenation.com

Mate’ supports getting out of Syria and his reporting is cutting through the propaganda. He’s very anti-war. It doesn’t get more liberal than that.

 

[justjess]

The biggest threat to America IS America.

 

[A.J.]

Wait, so...

There are actually people here, at the VC forum, who are SOOOOOO stupid that they STILL think QAnon isn't real?

Nah.

You're just sock puppets.

Go fuck yourselves.

Come on man, our intelligence would be all over it. And Qs wrong on every prediction, even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while......

Think about Bernie Sanders, he ran for president, not to win, but to keep his supporters in line for a little longer. It’s all bullshit. Q is major bullshit. They are trying to buy time and distract us into thinking something is happening.

 

[A.J.]

I will add, I think Putin is a bad guy. And no I don’t trust Russia. But I think they are also a bit of a boogeyman. Like the threat of Islamic terrorism.

Soros and Putin hate each other.
You essentially got Soros on one side, Putin on another and Trump in the middle. A globalist tyrant, a nationalist tyrant and a wanna-be who likes to tweet and loves having his ego stroked. He’s falling in line, but I don’t see how he’s helping Russia since he’s been elected. Maybe Clinton would have been harder on Putin but Obama was pretty soft on him so who knows.

 

[vancityeagle]

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QUOTE="A.J., post: 301424, member: 124"]
So you see Russia as our biggest existential threat? I think Putin fears the deep state and the global elite as Russia’s biggest existential threat.

I wanna start by saying we probably agree on a lot more than you think, but I think you are not seeing fully how the elite power structure is shaped in a power dynamic behind 2 factions of freemasonry. I've touched on this topic in this thread about Israel and their power.

https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/how-and-why-does-israel-have-so-much-power.1710/page-36#post-301394

Like @justjess has outlined I believe the biggest threat to the US is from within and not without, but there are outside actors mainly Israel and Russia who are facilitating the current trajectory that the US is currently on.

There are basically 2 deep states in America, and Putin is aligned with one of them. The one that backs Trump. Now both of these factions align on many of their interests and agendas, but have stark disagreements in others.

Putin is aligned with the likudnik Zionists in Israel (Netanyahu) and the far right faction in America. That is why I am saying that leftists who fall for Russian propaganda are ultimately being hoodwinked by those with a fascist agenda and being used as idiots and dupes.

General Flynn, a Democrat, was challenging the deep state when he served under Obama where he was a counter to Brennan.

Flynn was challenging 1 of the deep states I mentioned above, but he is in bed with the other, which is more Russia/Israel aligned, while the deep state he challenged (Obama/Brennan) is more aligned with international organizations like the UN, EU,.

Flynn is in tight with the Russians, Israeli Zionists, and Turkey, and the far right in America.

Of course RT is going to promote Russia’s interests first. But why is Russia more of a threat than Saudi Arabia, or Iran, or Israel or China or North Korea? Pick your poison I guess.

Of Course RT will promote Russian interests, no problem with that. But neither Russian nor Israeli, nor "American" interests are ultimately OUR interests. Russia is playing a major role in reconfiguring the political paradigm from left vs right to Populist vs Globalist. And keep in mind the "populist" is only a fake populism in much the same way Trump was claimed to be "anti-establishment" This is all a fraud ultimately.

IMO the biggest threat is not Russia per say, but the international fascist network of which Russia and Israel play a role in bringing about a Fascist like Trump to power.

I think the globalists who transcend nations and borders are every humans biggest existential threat. They are the deep state and they own the US gov, our intelligence agencies, our banking systems, our law enforcement at the highest level. Those are the biggest threats. I think more of the left are aligned with those interests. But maybe I’m wrong.

the globalists are simply one of the international factions of freemasonry while the fake "populist/nationalist" fascist network are the other international faction of freemasonry. Both factions transcend nations and borders and are an existential threat to humanity. The problem is that at the moment the International fascist network are positioning themselves as an "anti-establishment" "populist" movement which is resisting the "globalists" which is simply the other faction of freemasonry. I'm trying to get people to not fall into this deception.

Believe me I was once a Putin supporter before, and I thought he had nothing to do with Trump or Israel, but that just isn't the truth.

I think Gen Flynn is one of our more trust worthy guys and he got railroaded pretty hard. Where do you falls on this. Please watch the video. If you feel this is too off topic feel free to disregard....

I think these are just 2 gangs fighting each other, and one of them has you believing they are "the good guys". Look at Flynn's connections to Michael Ledeen who he co wrote a book with. Ledeen is a big time neocon and Iran hawk, he was also involved in the Iran/Contra scandal of the 1980's which was run by the fascist faction I am talking about.

Oh yeah, Q is a joke ..... trust the plan

agreed. But Q is part of the psy op that Trump, Russia, Israel are playing on people.

Bush=Satanic new world order (Clinton, Obama, etc.)

I think they all are Satanic, including the Flynn and Russia guys. They are all Freemasonic.

So you believe since Mate’ and Dore counter Russia-Russia-Russia they are Russian assets?

I believe its very likely yes. Russia is using populist left discourse to ultimately shape their fascist agenda, which is what this thread is about.

Ok, so you fall on both sides of the political establishment on this issue. You align with the Lindsey Grahams and the John McCains. The Mitt Romneys, the Boltons, etc.... you realize that, right? Your views on this align perfectly with TED CRUZ, lol....

Ever heard of "Moscow Mitch" There are plenty of Republicans tied in with Russia, and no I am not aligned with those guys because I believe Russia is only one part of the equation, the other being Israel. How many of those guys have you heard calling out Israeli collusion ?

If Mate tells the truth he’s a Russian asset?

Mate isn't telling the truth. He is completely trying to cover up the fact that Russia and Israel are tight, and both of them helped Trump into office.

He just blames it on Israel, while the Democratic establishment just blame Russia.

ITS BOTH OF THEM.

 

[vancityeagle]

Come on man, our intelligence would be all over it. And Qs wrong on every prediction, even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while......

Think about Bernie Sanders, he ran for president, not to win, but to keep his supporters in line for a little longer. It’s all bullshit. Q is major bullshit. They are trying to buy time and distract us into thinking something is happening.

I agree with you, I dont think Sanders was really trying to win.

I also dont think Biden is trying to win.

They are trying to keep everybody hopefull, until their next psy op arrives, which is what I am trying to explore with this thread, and the comming together of the "populist" right and left.

 

[DavidSon]

I agree with you, I dont think Sanders was really trying to win.

I also dont think Biden is trying to win.

They are trying to keep everybody hopefull, until their next psy op arrives, which is what I am trying to explore with this thread, and the comming together of the "populist" right and left.

Sorry I haven't read all your comments but my opinion is to keep an open mind. Not everybody or everything falls within defined boxes of categorization.

I don't get your obsession with Jimmy Dore or Crystal. They're small voices within an ocean of opinions. Dore is disgusted with the hypocrisy of the US Democratic party, and I agree. We're all unique and you seem to have these rigid definitions; that you're the only real "leftist" worthy to call out everyone who doesn't align 100% with your ideals. Truth is truth no matter who speaks it, right or left.

The neoliberal war hawks and foreign advisors for Biden are just as troubling (if not more) than the current president's neocon advisors. They're all devils.The fact is the fraud Obama is as guilty of illegal warmongering as Bush and more than Dump. Like it or not Hillary in 2016 was probably a greater threat to world peace. That's the choice we have as Americans.

I'm curious how the true Left ( pro economic justice, workers rights, and anti-war) was undermined by identity political issues like transgender bathrooms. It's a mockery to ignore the major issue of wealth inequality while wasting our time on the homosexual agenda. Galloway commented on this after the recent crushing defeat of the Labor Party: the legitimate concerns of working class people were not addressed. Antifa and Black-bloc aren't representatives of the Left; they're extremists (funded by Soros?) who don't speak for the majority of us.

Why is the Left so divided? I've looked up political parties- the greens, socialists, democratic socialists, socialist democrats, the workers party... on and on it's nonsense. Its like there's an conspicuous attempt to balkanize those of us who support authentic living wages (beyond $15/hour), affordable housing, descaling military funding, etc.

If we could see beyond the labels, it's possible there could be a unification of a left/right populist movement. Alexander Dugin is correct that many desire economic reform while retaining traditional social values. Lets be honest, Sanders' campaign fell flat on its face among the working class in the US. Some critics feel he wasn't viscous enough toward Biden (his good friend Joe) or the "liberal" media like CNN. I don't think we can judge an 80 year old career legislator that harshly, but the point is for now the US isn't willing to embrace a progressive platform. We here have to ask how to get through to the American public in the coming future.

Thanks for hearing me out.

 

[Wigi]

The problem is that at the moment the International fascist network are positioning themselves as an "anti-establishment" "populist" movement which is resisting the "globalists" which is simply the other faction of freemasonry.

But you're not really naming the real problem of populism which is the infiltration of white nationalism that want to transform the left and right dichotomy into a racial narrative.
Historically speaking, the left is easily dragged into racism with socioeconomic arguments such as 'the capital seek to destroy our jobs through mass importation of immigrants'.
Personally I disagree with shortcuts such as 'all populists are fascist' but one thing is sure: the etablishment tried globalism and for many it resulted with the covid pandemic.
In fact the cold reality it's that the left now need to decide whether they want to associate themselves with a racist alt right, a religious right or a liberal right because nobody wants progressives/democrats anymore. Even India have a nationalist leader.

 

[Awoken2]

A simplified view of the great left right debate

You guys have real staying power.