The Fascists have infilitrated "the Left"

[vancityeagle]

I'm not aware of Larouche pushing "cultural marxism" conspiracies. Do you have any source for that ?

I'm aware of the links to Liberty Lobby who would have been pushing that narrative for sure. I came across this document from the liberty lobby in 1980, speaking of their reasons for allying with Larouche and other "leftists" and this is a serious insight into what this thread is about.

http://www.larouchewatch.net/larouche-liberty-lobby.PDF

Look at what Liberty Lobby says about Larouche from document above, does this not apply to the Jimmy Dores and others today ?

ENEMIES: To a certain extent they (Larouche) have made for themselves the same enemies as "conservatives" including international crime, political zionism, liberals, the marxist left and both major parties.

Does this not describe Jimmy Dore, Krystal Ball, Tulsi Gabbard, and much of the coverage and pundits on Russia Today ?

SUMMARY: Many "conservatives" say they have financially supported Mr. Larouche and his groups. Since the founding of the POPULIST PARTY (founded by Libety Lobbys Willis Carto which ran David Duke as their 1988 presidential nominee) it is reported that many if not most of these people (Larouche) have begun to support that party. Politically it is certainly true that it is to the good of anticommunists and rightists when a significant sector of the Left attacks the Left as this one (Larouche) has. By separating from and opposing the Left, this group (Larouche) has rendered a valuable service even if the reasons they give for doing this are esoteric.

Now replace Jimmy Dore, Krystal Ball, Tulsi Gabbard, John Tracey, Kim Iversen or any of these other "leftists" where I put Larouche in brackets in the above statement.

What we see is a strategy by the FAR RIGHT to find common ground with many views held by those on the "populist left" (as Krystal Ball would describe it) and weaponize this "common ground" to ultimately attack "the LEFT" and prop up the far right.

This is where Russia plays a major role in pushing their propaganda to left minded people with media like Russia Today and Sputnik. For those who are not aware they should learn about Putin's advisor and mystic Alexander Dugin who has an ideology called National Bolshevism, a movement that combines Nazism and Bolshevism. Far right and far left.

Larouche and Liberty Lobby seems to be the first manifestation of this strategy and with a leftist like Krystal Ball who is literally paid by Trump friends and insiders writing a book "populist guide to 2020" with a former Tucker Carlson operative Saagar Enjeti, we see this strategy come to the forefront again.

My prediction is that these leftist dupes will play their part to get Trump re elected for another 4 years, and in 2024 we will see the rise of a legitmate 3rd party which will employ many of the same Trumpian "anti-establishment" tricks. This party will claim to be a "populist" party and be lead possibly even by Tulsi Gabbard. This party will bring together elements of the far right and far left and have strong Russian backing. It will even call out Zionism and the "Jewish power structure" and I believe many people will be duped by this party who will ultimately be run by the same CNP/Fascist network that is currently behind Trump. That my prediction I'm making right here today.

 

[vancityeagle]

The American Roots of a Right-Wing Conspiracy | Commune

White-supremacist fearmongering about “cultural Marxism” continues to inspire violent attacks, from Norway to New Zealand. But the origins of the theory are American through and through.

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Yeah I agree with what you said here. Even if there aren’t obvious LaRouche connections it still steers the discourse

wow. Yeah it seems according to this Larouche even helped guys like Lind and Weyrich (CNP) to formulate their "cultural marxism" conspiracy.

I would still suspect that the true source would be the Liberty Lobby and guys like Willis Carto an William Luther Pierce (author of Turner Diaries) They likely used Larouche as a conduit to release that propaganda. I mean didn't the John Birch Society basically have a different version of "cultural marxist" conspiracies ?

 

[AlcyoneSong]

Many people are not going to like where this is going, but I dont care, the truth needs to be told, and these operatives need to be called out for what they are.

I'm going to look first at Krystal Ball of the Hill is Rising, who has really gained popularity with her show where she is partnered with Saagar Enjeti. Enjeti of course used to work for Tucker Carlson, so right there you should at least be mildly suspicious of this show.

Tucker Carlson's website Daily Caller of course is funded by the billionaire Foster Freiss.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Caller

Freiss is a member of the far right wing think tank COUNCIL FOR NATIONAL POLICY. If you dont know about this group you need to catch up and look at some info in this thread.

https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/the-council-for-national-policy-right-wing-organization-youve-never-heard-of.7171/#post-274596

Now the purpose of the Hill is Rising show seems to be to create a false equivalence between "right wing populism" and "left wing populism" while pushing the idea that Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders are the representatives of each.

This is a false premise.

Donald Trump is not really a populist. He is an elitist who uses right wing "culture wars" to pacify his base. So while he pursues the economic and foreign policy of typical Republicans, he hides this establishment agenda behind divisive culture war issues such as immigration, gun rights, political correctness. Add to this that he is always contradicting himself, and this confuses his die hard followers into believing whatever half of his contradictions they want to believe.

Trump was constructed by elites as an "anti-establishment" politician. This is what the CNP has done, and has been doing for decades.

Anybody who goes along with the false narrative of Trump being "a populist" or a "nationalist" needs to be called out.

Krystall Ball co wrote a book with Saagar "Populists guide to 2020"

Now why really would you co-write a book with a guy who used to work for Tucker Carlson, who is not only promoting Trump as a psuedo "populist/nationalist" but also pushing white nationalist propaganda ?

Again the overarching idea of this book is that its

populism vs establishment politics

and either right wing or left wing populism (characterized by either Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump) is better than "establishment politics"

Well Bernie Sanders is now gone, so the subtle conclusion is SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP.

Well Krystal doesn't need to come out and tell her fans "Vote for Trump" But she can spend all of her time attacking Joe Biden, telling us how Trump "is bad, but not as bad as the MSM makes him out to be" and thus at the very least convince them to stay at home instead of voting, WHICH IS A DEFACTO VOTE FOR TRUMP.

Now wouldn't this explain why Krystal Ball seems to love to go on Tucker Carlson's show and "find common ground" with Tucker, Trump, and the "populist right"

So you finally woke up huh?

 

[vancityeagle]

Yeah. Dugin and the Nazbols. Jacobin outed themselves with their Limonov obituary. So they should be included with the dirtbag left along with Chapo. If you want a guy with some LaRouche connections check out Mike Gravel ( that one makes me a little sad )

Tbh though it seems Larouche put forward the "cultural marxist" theory in a different context than the right.

He seems more to be claiming that guys like Herbert Marcuse and others (Frankfurt school) were CIA assets sent to infiltrate and steer the Left. With the history of Cointelpro, I'd have to say I agree with him in that aspect.

He is described as paranoid man, and the article you posted even suggests that he might have been deceived himself by disinformation attempts.

It's hard to say what his true motives were but it appears from the document I posted that Liberty Lobby was using him as a dupe to support their agenda.

 

[vancityeagle]

Yeah. Dugin and the Nazbols. Jacobin outed themselves with their Limonov obituary. So they should be included with the dirtbag left along with Chapo. If you want a guy with some LaRouche connections check out Mike Gravel ( that one makes me a little sad )

and speaking of Jacobin magazine, which I never was very familiar with, turns out they are funded by Zionists.

Well Zionists are in line with the Russia/Dugin Nazibol agenda so no surprise they had an obituary for a founder of National Bolshevism

 

[A.J.]

Actually, it’s the opposite....

This is something I have been looking at for a while, but am going to take a serious investigation into this topic.

Its no secret that Hitler used "leftist" talking points to gain power and give himself a "populist" appearance.

During the 2016 election Donald Trump outflanked Hillary Clinton on many issues, which helped to solidify his "anti-establishment" credentials. Of course it was all a ruse to get elected, but an effective strategy none the less.

In the age of Trump I have seen an explosion of "leftist" commentators and journalists who have made it their agenda to try and minimize the crimes and actions of Donald Trump, while focusing almost entirely on "Democratic corruption/hypocrisy" While it is true that the Democrats are corrupt and hypocrital, the hyper focus on this, while ignoring or whitewashing the greater crimes of the Trump regime, by those calling themselves "leftists" and "progressives" shows that there is a well planned out agenda to target a "leftist" or "progressive" audience with far right wing fascist propaganda, and ultimately a defacto support of the current Trump regime and agenda.

This was most apparent during "Russiagate" and virtually all of the "leftist/progressive" commentators/journalists who have been engaging in the subtle defence of Trump, were fully engaged in the Cover up of the Trump/Russia collusion. They were working completely LOCK STOCK AND BARREL in coordination with the Trump campaign propaganda to downplay or dismiss the collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.

Another unifying factor of many of these "leftist" operatives or dupes, was not only their soft hands on Trump, but also their soft hands and often praise of Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who is the main conduit for fascist propaganda on mainstream news.

You will find that the left wing has been heavily infiltrated by fascists. The outreach of the fascists is massive, and they target different audiences and demographics very differntly, but ultimately they are attempting to convert as many as possible to the different forms of their propaganda.

They are not just preaching to the choir, they are not just talking to conservatives. They are trying to manipulate "leftists" and bring them into the fold, and are doing so by employing a network of '"leftist" commentators/journalists to spread fascist propaganda in ways that speak specifically to progressives.

 

[A.J.]

care to elaborate?

The mainstream media and the establishment are the problem not the progressives that break with them. Tucker Carlson is a libertarian and anti-war and against political corrupt status quo. Overall his closest has much less skeletons than the mainstream politicians and the media that supports them like Chris Cuomo, Anderson Cooper, Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, Sean Hannity, etc. Trump and Russia-gate has always been bs. Russia is the least of our problems. NATO wants them wiped out cause they are a sovereign nation. They are a threat to the agenda like Iran, Syria & China and North Korea.

Here are the true threats to humanity....

AI is the endgame & Covid-19 the excuse

Two quick points. Unfortunately, aside from a few sources that may scratch the surface, the msm is aligned with the gov and no longer holds our reps in check. Regardless, current events and recent initiatives and studies point to .... 1. Artificial Intelligence as the major motivation for the...

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Dore has also supported Ron Paul and been on RT filling in on the Jesse Ventura Show. He sees America as the greater evil and the greater global threat. Dore has been very critical of Saudi Arabia (as has Carlson) and Israel. Dore is a socialist all the way.

Trump is also not a true nationalist/populist (he’s a phony); he will and has sold us out. How does Trump help Putin and the Russian government? He helps Israel sure.
Im sure Putin preferred Trump cause he was more of a wild card, but that’s as far as it has gone. NATO troops are positioning themselves on the Russian border. America is not their friend.

I don’t know how sincere Tucker Carlson really is, but when he calls out political corruption, crony-capitalism, and the military-industrial -complex in ways the msm won’t dare try, why shouldn't Dore give em a shout-out? But Dore remains a tree hugging socialist. Ron Paul puts him, Tucker and the political establishment to shame when it comes to promoting true liberty. You live by big gov and you will die by it.

 

[vancityeagle]

The mainstream media and the establishment are the problem not the progressives that break with them.

Fox News is MSM/establishment. When Jimmy Dore and other "progressives" push Fox News narratives, they are not "breaking from the establishment" they are simply pushing the other side of the dialectic. When progressives like Krystal Ball is working for Trump and Giuliani buddies, she isn't breaking from what the elites want. What these guys are ultimately doing by default is backing Trump. How is that bucking the establishment. What they are is a more sophisticated type of pro-Trump propaganda designed for people who dont like Trump.

Tucker Carlson is a libertarian and anti-war and against political corrupt status quo. Overall his closest has much less skeletons than the mainstream politicians and the media that supports them like Chris Cuomo, Anderson Cooper, Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, Sean Hannity, etc.

Tucker Carlson is an elitist, literally, He is the heir to the Swanson fortune. I dont care what flavour of elitist you label him. His anti-war stance is a front for him to push propaganda. The guy supported the Iraq war, is currently pushing an aggresive stance towards China, and called Iraqi's monkeys in the context of them being invaded. He is pushing white nationalism, another elitist agenda, and works for the most Zionist MSM that exists. I dont think any of the guys you listed above have less skeletons in their closets. Maybe Hannity.

Trump and Russia-gate has always been bs. Russia is the least of our problems. NATO wants them wiped out cause they are a sovereign nation. They are a threat to the agenda like Iran, Syria & China and North Korea.

The Trump regime and Russia literally have connections everywhere you look. The only thing that is BS is that Russia was the only country colluding with Trump's regime, but collude they absolutely did. I agree though that Russia is not up there with the problems America faces. Russia is just as soverign as the US. Both are controlled by Zionist billionaires.

Here are the true threats to humanity....

AI is the endgame & Covid-19 the excuse

Two quick points. Unfortunately, aside from a few sources that may scratch the surface, the msm is aligned with the gov and no longer holds our reps in check. Regardless, current events and recent initiatives and studies point to .... 1. Artificial Intelligence as the major motivation for the...

vigilantcitizenforums.com

Yes I agree. Guess what, I posted this video in the Coronavirus thread, despite the fact I cannot stand Dore, because there is nothing in that video that is BS, mostly because Dore just shuts up and lets his guest talk.

Dore has also supported Ron Paul and been on RT filling in on the Jesse Ventura Show. He sees America as the greater evil and the greater global threat. Dore has been very critical of Saudi Arabia (as has Carlson) and Israel. Dore is a socialist all the way.

Dore supporting Ron Paul is even more evidence he is a fraud working to push the fascist agenda. Ron Paul member of the John Birch Society, who pushes Libertarianism (the billionaire funded ideology all about deregulation and tax cuts for billionaires), voted to invade any country where Al Qaeda is present despite his anti-war image, and is funded by the billionaire Peter Thiel, who actually plays a major role in the AI threat which you highlighted above. Now I'm not saying Dore, or even Carlson do not say things which are true, and that I do not agree with, what I'm saying is that they are telling you truths in order to push disinformation and a nefarious agenda. It doesn't matter if Dore is a socialist, ultimately he is pushing a fascist agenda.

Trump is also not a true nationalist/populist (he’s a phony); he will and has sold us out. How does Trump help Putin and the Russian government? He helps Israel sure.

I'm glad you've figured out Trump. Maybe those who run Russia have many of the same goals as those who run Israel. Maybe they are even many of the same people. Look into Chabad Lubavitch.

Im sure Putin preferred Trump cause he was more of a wild card, but that’s as far as it has gone. NATO troops are positioning themselves on the Russian border. America is not their friend.

I dont know if I buy the so called animosity between USA and Russia. Trump is tied in to the Russian mob, and they have power over Putin. They have business interests, and when you look at the Chabad connections, they have common religious interests as well.

I don’t know how sincere Tucker Carlson really is,

he isn't in the slightest bit. A sincere opposition to the elites would never be allowed on Fox News.

but when he calls out political corruption, crony-capitalism, and the military-industrial -complex in ways the msm won’t dare try, why shouldn't Dore give em a shout-out? But Dore remains a tree hugging socialist. Ron Paul puts him, Tucker and the political establishment to shame when it comes to promoting true liberty. You live by big gov and you will die by it.

Tucker calls that stuff out in a way so as to make the political opponents of Trump to be the major problem. He then calls Trump out from time to time so he can appear genuine, and also play into the false QAnon narrative, that if only Trump can get good advice, and not advice from his "deep state" infiltrators, HE WILL DO GOOD FOR AMERICA.

TPTB have moved on from the politics as usual. They understand that the public is far more aware of their tricks and deceptions, so they need to push their propaganda in more complicated and deceptive ways which appear "anti-establishment" Thats literally the whole lesson from Trump being elected.

 

[Corvus Metus]

Speaking of "crimes", Obama and his babe Hillary gave the Iran terror regime permission to build nukes, and as a neutral English observer I can't help wondering whose side the Dems are on?..

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Iran getting nukes is bad - but its no worse than the US having nukes. Nuclear weapons are an abomination no matter who has them. The only danger with Iran having nukes is the American political machine toppling Iran and those nukes getting in the hands of literal apocalyptic cults like ISIS.

Russia is the least of our problems. NATO wants them wiped out cause they are a sovereign nation. They are a threat to the agenda like Iran, Syria & China and North Korea.

It's less that they are "sovereign nations" and more that they are a collective of nation that don't go along with "Western" imperialism... And the most important thing to realize is those nations aren't the good guys. They are another elitist cabal; they just oppose the one we live under.

 

[Tidal]

Iran getting nukes is bad - but its no worse than the US having nukes.

Ah, but Christian America has no intention of using them unless they have to, whereas the Muslim terrorist world dreams of getting its hands on nukes to toast us all..
Below: Osama Bin Laden responding to the question "Are you trying to acquire chemical and nuclear weapons?" in Time Magazine Dec 1998-
"Acquiring weapons for the defense of Muslims is a religious duty. If I have indeed acquired these weapons, then I thank Allah for enabling me to do so. And if I seek to acquire these weapons, I am carrying out a duty. It would be a sin for Muslims not to try to possess the weapons that would prevent the infidels from inflicting harm on Muslims."

"We--with Allah's help--call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with Allah's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson." - Feb1998 Bin Laden edict

Like I said, Obama and his babe Hillary gave Iran permission to build nuke materials, they must have been nutty.
No doubt Trump has got the co-ordinates of the sites below programmed into his cruise missiles and drones and his finger is itching to press the "launch" button if Iran finally gets too big for its boots..

 

[vancityeagle]

Ah, but Christian America has no intention of using them unless they have to, whereas the Muslim terrorist world dreams of getting its hands on nukes to toast us all..
Below: Osama Bin Laden responding to the question "Are you trying to acquire chemical and nuclear weapons?" in Time Magazine Dec 1998-
"Acquiring weapons for the defense of Muslims is a religious duty. If I have indeed acquired these weapons, then I thank Allah for enabling me to do so. And if I seek to acquire these weapons, I am carrying out a duty. It would be a sin for Muslims not to try to possess the weapons that would prevent the infidels from inflicting harm on Muslims."

"We--with Allah's help--call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with Allah's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson." - Feb1998 Bin Laden edict

Like I said, Obama and his babe Hillary gave Iran permission to build nuke materials, they must have been nutty-

you know Iran hates Al Qaeda right ?

 

[Tidal]

you know Iran hates Al Qaeda right ?

Dunno bout that mate, but ALL the terror groups and regimes have one thing in common- they hate our guts.

 

[Infinityloop]

you know Iran hates Al Qaeda right ?

al-Qaeda love the CIA.

 

[Infinityloop]

Dunno bout that mate, but ALL the terror groups and regimes have one thing in common- they hate our guts.

No, they are your guts.

 

[Tidal]

Death to nationalism. No one left to hate. No gods no masters no borders, no countries

That may sound good on paper but in reality it's a crock, just look at the mess caused by mass immigration of heathens into our countries.

 

[justjess]

That may sound good on paper but in reality it's a crock, just look at the mess caused by mass immigration of heathens into our countries.

“heathens”

“Christian country”

@Thunderian - here you go, sitting right in this thread

 

[Corvus Metus]

Ah, but Christian America has no intention of using them unless they have to, whereas the Muslim terrorist world dreams of getting its hands on nukes to toast us all..
Below: Osama Bin Laden responding to the question "Are you trying to acquire chemical and nuclear weapons?" in Time Magazine Dec 1998-
"Acquiring weapons for the defense of Muslims is a religious duty. If I have indeed acquired these weapons, then I thank Allah for enabling me to do so. And if I seek to acquire these weapons, I am carrying out a duty. It would be a sin for Muslims not to try to possess the weapons that would prevent the infidels from inflicting harm on Muslims."

"We--with Allah's help--call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with Allah's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson." - Feb1998 Bin Laden edict

Most of the radical Islamic sects of Muslim majority nations wouldn't use nukes "unless they had to" either... Since nuclear war is game over for everyone and Iran wants to prosper and spread their influence. You can't do that when you turn the world into an inhabitable wasteland.

It's also amusing you consider America a "Christian nation".

 

[Thunderian]

“heathens”

“Christian country”

@Thunderian - here you go, sitting right in this thread

@Tidal doesn’t accept that Jesus Christ is God. That means he’s as much of a heathen as anyone else. A person can’t call themselves a Christian and not accept the divinity of Christ. Tidal is not a Christian, and I can say that because he rejects a central belief of Christianity.

 

[Tidal]

If you think you are the superior race, I have nothing to worry about, you’re a joke you old racist creep.

Admit it mate, the vast majority of immigrants are just worthless scroungers who contribute nothing to our society, Africa is emptying so fast they must be running on fumes by now..

 

[Tidal]

..Since nuclear war is game over for everyone and Iran wants to prosper and spread their influence. You can't do that when you turn the world into an inhabitable wasteland.
It's also amusing you consider America a "Christian nation".

1- When it was pointed out that muslim office workers in the WTC were among those killed on 9/11, the muslim world's excuse was "it was regrettable but they were martyrs and died for a good cause".
Same when muslim nukes turn America into a radioactive wasteland in the future, they'll say "We wiped out America, praise be to Allah!".

2- If America wasn't a Christian nation Americans would be doing stuff like flying airliners into buildings..