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qibla change in islam
There are 2 billion Muslims in the world, and each time they pray, they turn their faces in one direction, towards Mecca. The Islamic term for this direction is qibla. When a Muslim prepares to pray, no matter where he is, he turns towards the qibla, the direction of the Kaba. The Kaba is a small cube shaped building in the courtyard of the mosque known as Masjid Al Haram, in the city of Mecca, in the country of Saudi Arabia.

“For every nation there is a direction to which they face (in their prayers). So hasten towards all that is good. Wheresoever you may be, God will bring you together (on the Day of Resurrection). Truly, God is Able to do all things. And from wheresoever you start forth (for prayers), turn your face in the direction of Al-Masjid-al-Haram (at Mecca), that is indeed the truth from your Lord. And God is not unaware of what you do.” (Quran 2:148-149)

Muslims do not worship the Kaba, or its contents, it is simply a focal point. Muslims worship One God, the Most Merciful, and the Most Wise. God decreed that when Muslims pray they all face one direction. It is a sign of unity that encapsulates the unity embedded in the religion of Islam.

The Arabic word for prayer is salah and it demotes a connection between the believer and God; when all believers face the same direction it adds an extra dimension to the connection. The prayer connects the believers to God and the qibla connects the believers to one another. It has been said that if one could observe all the Muslims at prayer we would be able to see lines of worshippers bowing and prostrating like the petals of a flower opening and closing in unison.

The qibla was not always oriented towards Mecca. The first Muslims prayed towards the al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem. Around sixteen months after Prophet Muhammad and his followers migrated from Mecca to the city of Medina, the qibla was changed to the Kaba. According to accounts by Prophet Muhammad's companions, the change happened very suddenly. During the noon prayer, Prophet Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, received a revelation from God instructing him to, "Turn your face towards the Masjid al Haram".

“Thus, we have made you real believers in Islamic Monotheism, true followers of Prophet Muhammad and his legal ways, a just nation, witnesses over mankind and the Messenger a witness over you. And We made the Qibla (prayer direction towards Jerusalem) which you used to face, only to test those who followed the Messenger from those who would turn on their heels (i.e. disobey the Messenger). Indeed, it was great (heavy) except for those whom God guided. And God would never make your prayers to be lost (i.e. your prayers offered towards Jerusalem). Truly, God is full of kindness, the Most Merciful towards humankind.”

“Verily! We have seen the turning of your (Muhammad) face towards the heaven. Surely, We shall turn you to a Qibla (prayer direction) that shall please you, so turn your face in the direction of Al-Masjid- al-Haram (at Mecca). And wheresoever you people are, turn your faces (in prayer) in that direction...” (Quran 2:143-144)

Changing the direction of prayer establishes Mecca as the fixed central point for worship. It establishes a common sense or purpose.

Throughout the centuries, mathematicians and astronomers have established correct ways to determine the qibla (direction) from any point on the earth’s surface. There are two precise moments each year when the sun is directly above the Kaba, thus the direction of shadows in any sunlit place will point away from the qibla. There are also two moments per year when the sun is directly over the exact opposite position of the Kaba, thus pointing towards the qibla.

It is important the Muslims make every effort to face the right direction when praying; however, slight deviations do not invalidate a person’s prayer. Prophet Muhammad said, “What is between the east and the west is qibla”.[1] Nowadays it is easy to locate the qibla. It is a simple matter to look at a map and draw a line between your location and the city of Mecca. Compasses and computer programs that locate the qibla are readily available and most mosques throughout the world have a niche in the wall to indicate the qibla.

Islam is a religion of unity. Muslims are united by their belief in One God. They are one brotherhood united in the language and ritual of prayer and united by the direction of their worship. The qibla is not only about degrees of latitude or longitude it is about unity. It is about humankind united in the worship of the One God, Creator, and Sustainer of the universe

مسيحي يتحدى المسلمين أن يروه نبوءات لسيدنا محمد فجاءه الرد



Change Of Qibla From Jerusalem To Kaaba By Nouman Ali




Christians say Ayah 'Allah is the best of deceivers' is one of His attributes? Is Allah a deceiver?

DID MUHAMMAD (PBUH) AUTHOR THE QUR'AN FOR STATUS, FAME OR LEADERSHIP? DR ZAKIR NAIK

difference between Islam and Christian Dr Zakir Naik a debate

 

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There are a few verses from the Quran that are quite often misquoted or quoted out of context to perpetuate the myth that Islam promotes violence and exhorts its followers to kill those outside the fold of Islam. The words Kill the polytheists wherever you find them are often quoted to portray that Islam promotes violence, bloodshed and brutality.


In order to understand the context, it is necessary to read from the beginning of the chapter. It discloses that there was a peace treaty between the Muslims and the pagans of Mecca. The pagans violated this treaty, so a period of four months was given them to make amends; otherwise war would be declared against them. The complete verse actually says:

“But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Quran 9:5)


This verse is a command to the Muslims who had entered into an agreement with the pagans, who soon violated the agreement, to fight and kill those who betrayed them wherever they found them. It would seem that any open-minded person would consider the historical context of this verse and agree that it cannot be used as “evidence” that Islam promotes violence, brutality and bloodshed, or that it exhorts its followers to kill anyone outside the fold of Islam.
The very next verse gives the answer to the allegation that Islam promotes violence, brutality and bloodshed “If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge.” (Quran 9:6)
The Quran not only stipulates that a pagan seeking asylum during the battle should be granted refuge, but also that he is escorted to safety. In the present age, what military commander would direct his soldiers not just to spare an enemy during battle, but to escort him to a place of safety? Yet, that is exactly what Almighty Allah instructs in the Quran.


Arun Shourie, one of the most persistent critics of Islam in India, quotes the same verse (9:5) in his book, The World of Fatwas, p. 572. But alter quoting it, he skips the next verse and jumps to the one after it. This is a clear indication that some of the opponents of Islam are biased and prejudiced in their criticism.


This idea can be easily be disproved, as only about 15 to 20 percent of Muslims in the world are Arabs. There are more Indian Muslims than Arab Muslims, and more Indonesian Muslims than Indian Muslims. This assumption is possibly based on the fact that most of the first generation of Muslims were Arabs, that the Quran is in Arabic and that the Prophet Muhammad was an Arab.


However, history testifies that the Prophet, his followers and the early Muslims made every effort to spread the message of Islam to all nations, races and peoples. From the very beginning of the mission of Prophet Muhammad his followers came from a wide spectrum of countries and races. Among them was Bilal, the African slave; Suhaib, the Byzantine Roman; Abdullah bin Salam, the Jewish Rabbi; and Salman, the Persian.


Furthermore, it should be clarified that not all Muslims are Arabs and not all Arabs are Muslims. An Arab might be a Muslim, Christian, Jew, atheist or follower of any other religion or ideology. Additionally, some countries - such as Turkey and Iran (Persia) - that uninformed people consider to be "Arab" are not Arab at all. The people who live in those countries speak languages other than Arabic and are of a different ethnic heritage.


Since religious truth is eternal and unchanging, and humanity is considered one universal brotherhood, Islam teaches that God's revelations to humanity have always been consistent, clear and universal. The truth of Islam is meant for all people regardless of race, nationality, cultural or linguistic background. A brief look at the Muslim World, from Nigeria to Bosnia and from Malaysia to Afghanistan is sufficient proof that Islam offers a universal appeal; a message for all of mankind - not to mention the fact that significant numbers of Europeans and Americans of all races and ethnic backgrounds are finding and coming into Islam. The Quran clearly says, And We have not sent you “We have not sent thee but as a universal (Messenger) to men, giving them glad tidings, and warning them (against sin), but most men understand not.” (Quran 34:28)
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There are a few verses from the Quran that are quite often misquoted or quoted out of context to perpetuate the myth that Islam promotes violence and exhorts its followers to kill those outside the fold of Islam. The words Kill the polytheists wherever you find them are often quoted to portray that Islam promotes violence, bloodshed and brutality.

So suppose to take it in context but yet you don't take other things in the context written LOL i see how it is. Guess the bible doesn't get the same pass then? Only works for thee nice!;)
 

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Christian scholars witnessed the distortion of the Bible and the Bible violence
There is nothing outside the context at all
Verses are clear



1.Christ (peace be upon him) said:

“34 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law


‘a man against his father,

a daughter against her mother,

a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—

36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’


الرد على المبشّرين النصارى - عدنان رشيد
 

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بطل العالم في الملاكمة تايسون فيوري يعلن إسلامه وسط ترحيب مسلمي أمريكا - Tyson Fury Becomes a Muslim


بطل كاراتيه أوروبي يشهر إسلامه وينقذ عائلته بعدما طردته أمه Karate champion becomes a Muslim

New Brother Convert to Islam رجل إعتنق الإسلام في آستراليا



An American Special Forces Pilot Converts to Islam Despite Attempts to Stop Him From Working - American Pilot Becomes a Muslim

 

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We would now like our readers to ask themselves what they think are the reasons for all the propaganda and misinformation currently being perpetuated about Islam. If Islam was just another false religion that made no sense, would so many feel a need to invent so many falsehoods about it? The reason is merely that the ultimate truth of Islam stands on unshakable ground, and that its basic fundamental belief in the oneness of Allah is above reproach. Thomas Carlyle said:

A false man found a religion? Why, a false man cannot build a brick house! If he does not know and follow truly the properties of mortar, burnt clay and what else he works in, it is no house that he makes, but a rubbish- heap. It will not stand for twelve centuries, to lodge a hundred and eighty millions; it will fall straightway. A man must conform himself to Nature’s laws, be verily in communion with Nature and the truth of things, or Nature will answer him, No, not at all! Speciosities are specious - ah me! - a Cagliostro, many Cagliostros, prominent world-leaders, do prosper by their quackery, for a day. It is like a forged


bank-note; they get it passed out of their worthless hands: others, not they, have to smart for it. Nature bursts up in fire-flames; French Revolutions and such like, proclaiming with terrible veracity that forged notes are forged. But of a Great Man especially, of him, I will venture to assert that it is incredible he should have been other than true. It seems to me the primary foundation of him, and of all that can lie in him, is this.


, we must never rely on second hand information to understand the religion of Islam. Rather, it needs to be studied from its authentic sources and by speaking to sincere, practicing Muslims. , one will surely find a different picture than what is commonly projected by the Western media. A person may even find that Islam provides the answers for all the questions and challenges in life


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Some reflections on some profoundly revolutionary and unique elements of Islam
by Infinityloop (8/5/2023)​

The Qur'an is the most profound 'text' that we have on planet earth. It is the direct, unmediated speech of God itself. It contains no interjections from Muhammad or anyone else. It is therefore also the most intimate of sacred scriptures as God speaking directly to humanity, not only in it's immediate context but in the future context relative to it's time of revelation (aka to us and people after us).
It is also the most recited text of all time, Surah Fatihah in particular being incontestably the most recited portion of text in known human history (and that is only from it's use over 17 times a day in daily prayers, across the present 1444 years of Islam by every Muslim - try approximating the statistics of that!).
Another thing is the truly visceral and explicit descriptions of both Paradise (Jannah) and Hell (Jahannam), which the Tanakh and New Testament simply don't have anywhere near as much detail in about, likewise to Jewish and Christian tradition broadly. As someone who grew up as a Christian, I find this element when reciting the Qur'an to be immensely striking. You can literally taste both Paradise and Hell respectively when you recite it.
There are only scant references in the Tanakh and New Testament, though the most memorable descriptions in the New Testament are "weeping and gnashing of teeth" and the image of the "lake of fire", but otherwise you are left to imagine.
Anyway, there is nothing like the Qur'an, and that is simply an objective statement that even someone who despised it would reluctantly agree with. The Qur'an perfected the archetype of the "book of God", and amazingly nobody wrote a book anything like it before or after. I would expect that of Islam was merely a cult, that books like the Qur'an would be a commonality and therefore easy to disregard but objectively there isn't, even when it comes to Islam-adjacent cults like the Babis/Bayanis and the Bahais who try to utilize poetic and phraseological aspects of the Qur'an, but the content of their texts not resembling the Qur'an at all and not claiming the same authority or divine-unmediated status either.
There are instances of prefiguring of "Quranness" in certain Biblical books but the content of the books are not directly written by God, even if they may contain fragments of divine revelation in them. Another of the aspects that make the Qur'an and Islam utterly revolutionary with in the context of world religion, is the way that the scripture is separated from the history.
In the Bible and other religious scriptures, revelation and history are intertwined, and in the Biblical sense God is depicted as a character within it's narratives. Whereas with the Qur'an it is a discourse where God is the sole speaker, and the history surrounding it's revelation and Prophet that it addresses, is therefore contained within a separate literature known as Hadith and Seerah. This is unprecedented in the history of religion and remarkable in it's own idiosyncrasy.
If we are to say from a skeptical point of view "what would a religion look like if Moses was real" (Moses being very much the archetypal Prophet receiving a Book), the unabashedly (and reluctantly for the naysayers) it would look like Islam because Islam has the book of solely God talking and the history separated from it.
And in this manner too, if a Christian is to ask me what I, as a Muslim (and exChristian) think of or view the Bible, then it is through the lens of the Bible being a relic of true and real world things but not the things preserved from the standpoint of their actuality, how things where as they happened.
The Qur'an has no interjections as stated, it contains only God speaking, this is how it presents itself. The Hadith and Seerah on the other hand, are passed down in chains of transmission called Isnad. Unlike the Bible and other religious texts involving the retelling of historical events, the existence of Isnad means that methodologies of discerning authenticity from inauthenticity is present. This is another thing that Islam is objectively revolutionary with. The Bible doesn't have the ability of this kind of process (and therefore for western academics the only thing they have is the faulty and insidious 'historical critical method') and even the Talmud in Judaism doesn't have this kind of process either (even if itself claims transmission).
This is also an area where polemics against Islam and character assassination of Prophet Muhammad actually prove the veracity of Islam via the ability to even be having such conversations due to the sheer amount of detail in the Hadith collections (irrespective of authenticity and inauthenticity which is a further discussion within that subject). The details that we are left about other Prophets and Biblical figures, be that Moses, David or Jesus, is simply incomparable to the amount of detail about Prophet Muhammad.

Another thing is the amount of detail on moral, ethical and legal things that the Qur'an has, supplemented by Prophet Muhammad's injunctions in the Hadith. Judaism didn't offer much of an open-ended legal system and ended up abandoning it on a legislative scale, whereas Christianity was always somewhat secular (even Catholicism which simply adapted Roman Pagan Law but Christianized it) and even slightly opposed to divine law (beginning with controversial statements about "The Law" by Paul of Tarsus).
The Qur'an and Sunnah on the other hand provide us with the skeletal framework and fundamentals for actual divine law (known as Sharia in Islam), which across Islamic history up to the present day has been utilized and expressed in various ways in many kinds of contexts. There are 14 centuries of different lived iterations of Sharia as the basis of binding actual legal systems running countries, which neither Toraic law (Halakha) nor Christianity have ever fleshed out to any extent even remotely comparable.
But at the same time, Islam didn't fall into Judaism's legal failures and instead established a fourfold tradition known as Madhhabs which offered four different orthodox/canonical methodologies of interpreting the legal side of Qur'an and Sunnah. This too was something Islam was completely revolutionary in. Christianity on the other hand was left with basically the Roman Catholic law and then the Byzantine law (which for centuries was subservient to the Roman), and really nothing else. Islam on the other hand always was decentralized, and so legally there was nothing to revolt against in the manner of the Protestant 'reformation'.
Up until recent times with the rise of secular-liberal-atheist modernity, there was never any major polarities but the fall of the Ottoman Empire and rise of the Saudi monarchy (backed by the Wahhabi movement within Salafism - both modern) led to the introduction of ideas resembling Protestant sensitivities with idealized perspectives of an original pure religion being restored from a widely corrupted one. But unlike the spread of Protestantism through Europe, Britain and later the US, such 'reformist' movements (Salafi and related) have remained statistically fringe in the overall worldwide demographics of Islam, albeit very overrepresented.
But despite this, the traditional forms of Islam (Maturidi-Hanafi and Ashari-Maliki/Shafi'i/Hanbali for Sunni, and Ja'fari-Usuli for Shia) have prevailed over any of the more extremer and more fringe ideas, despite different fringe groups getting the negative and tragic news headlines.
 
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Have you ever wondered why a nun can be covered from head to toe and she’s respected for devoting herself to God, but when a Muslim woman covers, she’s viewed as “oppressed”? Or why a Jew can grow a beard and he’s just practicing his faith, and when a Muslim does that, he’s an “extremist”?

People in the west seem to have many misconceptions about Muslims and Islam. Many believe that the western world is advanced, enlightened and liberated, while Islam is just the opposite: primitive, ignorant and oppressed. One reason for this belief is that the media has time and again portrayed the Muslims in a way contrary to Islamic teachings. The key to understanding Islam and Muslims is to resist stereotypes and examine each situation according to Islamic teachings, and NOT some Muslims’ actions



So what exactly is hijab? To observe the hijab, Muslim women are required to cover their body with modest clothes that don’t reveal their figure in front of male strangers. However, hijab is not just about outer appearances; it is also about noble speech, modesty, dignified and righteous conduct. It goes without saying that these manners are also required of men.

There is nothing in hijab that restricts a Muslim woman’s freedom to express her views and opinion, to own property, to have an education and a career, or to choose a husband. The hijab is an act of honour and dignity, an empowerment, and a guarantee that a woman will be judged according to her inner spiritual beauty rather than her outer superficial appearance. The hijab liberates and raises a woman’s status, and demands that she be judged according to her intellect rather than her sexuality.

The reason Muslim women observe hijab is simply because Allah (God) made it a compulsory act of worship for them, and Allah knows what is best for His creation.

The hijab gives women the freedom to be active members of society, while maintaining their modesty. The hijab is meant for the public as women do not have to observe hijab when they are at home with their family!

The hijab does not symbolize suppression, oppression or silence. Rather, it is a shield guarding against degrading remarks, unwanted advances and unfair discrimination. Of all converts to Islam, 75% are women! Would you enter a religion that oppresses you? So the next time you see a Muslim woman, know that she covers her physical appearance, not her mind or intellect! Allah says:

“O Prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women to draw their outer garments around them (when they go out or are among men). That is better in order that they may be known (to be chaste women) and not abused...” Qur’an 33:59
Why do Muslim women have to wear a Hijab/veil by Dr ...


طالبة أمريكية مسلمة جعلت قسيسا يتخبط من سؤال واحد A question by a student made a priest mumble








الاف الجنود الامريكان يدخلون الإسلام Thousands of US Soldiers Become Muslims






قسيس روسي شهير يؤكد أن الإسلام سيعم العالم كله - Russian Archpriest Assures that Islam Will Spread

 
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I have a question I'm struggling to find an answer, what's muslim justification to reject the practice of the 10 commandments :

1. You shall love God with all your heart and have no other gods
2. You shall not make any idols to worship
3. You shall not take the Lord's name in vain
4. Remember and keep the Sabbath holy
5. Honour your father and mother
6. You shall not kill
7. You shall not commit adultery
8. You shall not steal
9. You shall not bear false witness
10. You shall not covet

Do you have an equivalent for each of these Commandments in the Qur'an or Muslims actually need to return to the Bible to know them?
Yes, the "Ten commandments" (or Aseret ha-Dibrot as Jews call it) appears in the Qur'an not only once but twice (of note that it appears twice in the extant version of the Torah that you have, once in Exodus 20 and the other in Deuteronomy 5).
The number "ten" itself is attributed to Christian tradition and not necessarily the text of Exodus or Deuteronomy, which is inconclusive whether it is 9, 10, 11, 12 etc.

Say, Come! Let me recite to you what your Lord has forbidden to you:
do not associate others with Him.
honour your parents.
Do not kill your children for fear of poverty. We provide for you and for them.
Do not come near indecencies, openly or secretly.
Do not take a life—made sacred by Allah—except with ˹legal˺ right.
This is what He has commanded you, so perhaps you will understand.

And do not come near the wealth of the orphan—unless intending to enhance it—until they attain maturity.
Give full measure and weigh with justice. We never require of any soul more than what it can afford.
Whenever you speak, maintain justice—even regarding a close relative.
And fulfil your covenant with Allah. This is what He has commanded you, so perhaps you will be mindful.
Indeed, that is My Path—perfectly straight. So follow it and do not follow other ways, for they will lead you away from His Way. This is what He has commanded you, so perhaps you will be God-conscious ”

Additionally, We gave Moses the Scripture, completing the favour upon those who do good,
detailing everything, and as a guide and a mercy, so perhaps they would be certain of the meeting with their Lord.

- Qur'an, Surah 6:151-154

And:

Do not set up any other god with Allah, or you will end up condemned, abandoned.
For your Lord has decreed that you worship none but Him.
And honour your parents. If one or both of them reach old age in your care,
never say to them ˹even˺ ‘ugh,’ nor yell at them. Rather, address them respectfully.
And be humble with them out of mercy, and pray, “My Lord! Be merciful to them as they raised me when I was young.”
Your Lord knows best what is within yourselves. If you are righteous,
He is certainly All-Forgiving to those who ˹constantly˺ turn to Him.
Give to close relatives their due, as well as the poor and ˹needy˺ travellers. And do not spend wastefully.
Surely the wasteful are ˹like˺ brothers to the devils. And the Devil is ever ungrateful to his Lord.
But if you must turn them down—while hoping to receive your Lord’s bounty—then give them a kind word.
Do not be so tight-fisted, for you will be blameworthy; nor so open-handed, for you will end up in poverty.
Surely your Lord gives abundant or limited provisions to whoever He wills. He is certainly All-Aware, All-Seeing of His servants.
Do not kill your children for fear of poverty. We provide for them and for you. Surely killing them is a heinous sin.
Do not go near adultery. It is truly a shameful deed and an evil way.
Do not take a life—made sacred by Allah—except with ˹legal˺ right.
If anyone is killed unjustly, We have given their heirs the authority,
but do not let them exceed limits in retaliation, for they are already supported.
Do not come near the wealth of the orphan—unless intending to enhance it—until they attain maturity.
Honour pledges, for you will surely be accountable for them.
Give in full when you measure, and weigh with an even balance. That is fairest and best in the end.
Do not follow what you have no ˹sure˺ knowledge of. Indeed, all will be called to account for ˹their˺ hearing, sight, and intellect.
And do not walk on the earth arrogantly. Surely you can neither crack the earth nor stretch to the height of the mountains.

The violation of any of these ˹commandments˺ is detestable to your Lord.
- Qur'an, Surah 17:22-38
 
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In the Bible we know we're only forgiven through a sacrifice atoning for the sin of sinners. It's a fundamental principle and that's the reason why Jesus had to die, He is the sacrificial Lamb restoring a relationship with God. I find it odd that the Quran implies God's law can be violated and criminals are forgiven just like that. Being sorry isn't sufficient, someone has to pay the penalty because the wage of breaking God's law always had been death since the Torah. And that's something I think is so sad in Islam namely this lack of guarantee as to whether you're truly forgiven or not.
Indeed, those who believe, do good, establish prayer,
and pay alms-tax will receive their reward from their Lord,
and there will be no fear for them, nor will they grieve.
- Qur'an, Surah 2:277

The Messenger (Muhammad) believes in what has been revealed to him from his Lord,
and so do the believers. They ˹all˺ believe in Allah,
His angels,
His Books,
and His messengers.
(proclaiming) -“We make no distinction between any of His messengers.”
And they say, “We hear and obey. ˹We seek˺ Your forgiveness, our Lord! And to You is the final return.”
Allah does not require of any soul more than what it can afford.
All good will be for its own benefit,
and all evil will be to its own loss.

(praying) - “Our Lord! Do not punish us if we forget or make a mistake.
Our Lord! Do not place a burden on us like the one you placed on those before us.
Our Lord! Do not burden us with what we cannot bear.
Pardon us, forgive us, and have mercy on us.
You are our Guardian. So grant us victory over the disbelieving people.”

- Qur'an, Surah 2:285-286


No soul burdened with sin will bear the burden of another.
And if a sin-burdened soul cries for help with its burden,
none of it will be carried—even by a close relative.
You can only warn those who stand in awe of their Lord without seeing Him and establish prayer.
Whoever purifies themselves, they only do so for their own good.
And to Allah is the final return.

- Qur'an, Surah 35:18
 
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The Moral Law, spoken at Sinai and inscribed on tablets of stone by God, Himself, is as eternal as He is. Which is why it couldn’t be abrogated after the Fall to excuse Man’s sin (without the Law, there is no sin). The Cross is an enduring testimony to that fact…that it cannot be changed, edited or rendered null & void. So isn’t it very curious that, Mohammed, claiming to be sent by God propagated a message that not only abrogates the Eternal Law but also deviates from all his (claimed) predecessors.

It’s one of those things that, when pondered, stops you dead in the tracks….

Muslims are always more than happy to appeal to the OT in an effort to furnish evidence from the distant past that legitimizes Mohammed and his prophet hood. If the temple never existed, and thus it’s precursor…the portable tabernacle that the Israelites moved around with in the wilderness, the designs of which were explicitly shown to Moses while atop Sinai, I find it odd that the texts descriptive of that (Exodus 25-30, 35-40) are rejected outright. More so in Deuteronomy 18, the very chapter that you guys appeal to as containing a prophecy about Mohammed (18:17-18). The first verses of that chapter deal with rules pertaining to the priestly class and the Levites in general…to you that is all forged, bunk or made up…but the 15th, 17th & 18th verses of that SAME CHAPTER are totally legit. Absolute evidence for Mohammed’s prophet hood.
I'm not gonna speak for other people's apologetics there but Islam (like Judaism) does not delineate a dispensationalist view of history.
Sure we could say there was a "Prophetic era" and a "post-Prophetic era" but that is as close as you'll get, and it has nothing to do with soteriology, doctrines or anything else aside from Prophecy having ended.
Somewhere in the post-Prophetic era is obliviously the end times, but likewise we don't hold dispensationalist views about it. Corporeal events will occur and then everything will be destroyed and then brought back and judged before God almighty.

When it comes to the Prophets themselves, we don't distinguish between them in that manner. Of course Muhammad is the last and therefore the epistemologically most important on a practical basis but in terms of overall, Moses or Abraham aren't inferior to Muhammad or Jesus just by virtue of being earlier chronologically.
At that point you have about 'appealing to the OT', this is the case of not only Christians but also the authors of the NT as well. The only point I could see being made there is the indecisive position on the authenticity of the extant Biblical texts (of which I have a sophisticated understanding of, as both an exChristian and a Muslim) but at the same time I don't believe that the Bible is of any relevance to proving the objective truth of the Prophethood of Muhammad (A.S.), because Islam stands and towers over all other religions in it's proof (hujjah).

Furthermore, it is ridiculous to claim that ancient Israel never had a temple of some sort. Every nation, from antiquity, always had a seat of government aswell as a seat/home for the national religion. If Israel’s neighbors (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia etc) all had temples of their own, ruins of which may still be around, you’d have to convince us with evidence that Israel was just the odd man out. Better yet, this infrastructure (libraries aswell) was always a magnet for invaders and their lust to obliterate a culture. If ancient Israel didn’t have a temple, the ancient historical accounts of her neighbors would corroborate that…..unless you want to whitewash those neighbors’ historical accounts or Rome’s military exploits(General Titus, to be specific) in Judea circa 70AD??
Actually:

And We warned the Children of Israel in the Scripture,
“You will certainly cause corruption in the land twice,
and you will become extremely arrogant.
When the first of the two warnings would come to pass,
We would send against you some of Our servants of great might,
who would ravage your homes.
This would be a warning fulfilled.
Then We would give you the upper hand over them
and aid you with wealth and offspring, causing you to outnumber them.
If you act rightly, it is for your own good, but if you do wrong, it is to your own loss.
And when the second warning would come to pass, your enemies would totally disgrace you

and enter the Temple as they entered it the first time,
and utterly destroy whatever would fall into their hands.
Perhaps your Lord will have mercy on you,

but if you return, We will return ˹to punishment˺.
And We have made Hell a confinement for the disbelievers.”
Surely this Quran guides to what is most upright,
and gives good news to the believers—who do good

—that they will have a mighty reward.
- Qur'an, Surah 17:4-9
 

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I have a question I'm struggling to find an answer, what's muslim justification to reject the practice of the 10 commandments :

1. You shall love God with all your heart and have no other gods
2. You shall not make any idols to worship
3. You shall not take the Lord's name in vain
4. Remember and keep the Sabbath holy
5. Honour your father and mother
6. You shall not kill
7. You shall not commit adultery
8. You shall not steal
9. You shall not bear false witness
10. You shall not covet

Do you have an equivalent for each of these Commandments in the Qur'an or Muslims actually need to return to the Bible to know them?
I've never seen a Muslim reject the 10 commandments. As InfinityLoop has pointed out above, all of them are found in Islam as well. Honestly rejecting any would remove one from the religion. Unlike most Christians who throw away the old testament easily, if a Muslim rejects a single verse in the Quran he becomes a kafir (non-Muslim).

People can reject it all the way to the grave but the One who sent the Torah, Injeel and Quran is the same deity. The God of Abraham. Of course you are gonna find similar rules, at-least with what man has not managed to edit.

Problem is most don't follow the 10 commandments, especially today. I have a Christian co-worker who loves to tell me my religion is evil. But I've caught him in multiple lies, seen him steal from the company and he cheats on his wife.
 
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I don't remember if you're Protestant or not but I'll assume so

I hope you do realize that the consequences of sin can be and are passed on genetically. So whatever happened at the Fall affected Man's entire person (spiritually, physically, emotionally and mentally) changes that get passed on genetically. If that wasn't the case, Adam's progeny wouldn't be subject to death and disease since it was his personal decision, not ours.
I'm not sure you realize this or not but this is actually the logic behind why Catholics believe in a realm or state called "Limbo", because of infants dying they are not pure enough to enter into heaven because of inheriting Original Sin, so they are in this in-between state until the day of judgement. Purgatory is similar but doesn't have the same pre-mortal aspects to it.

We on the other hand believe in Fitrah, that the soul is created pure and that it is the interaction with sin in the world, and temptations of Shaitan (Satan) that makes it needing of repentance - which is also why God sends Prophets and messengers to give us the map of salvation.
We do believe in an intermediate state, called Barzakh, but it doesn't function like the intermediate states in Christian theology.
In Islamic theology, a soul is accountable only for it's own actions, whether it is good or bad to itself or towards others.
 

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One of the most disturbing misconceptions is the negative portrayal of women in Islam namely that Islam degrades and oppresses women. According to the teachings of Islam, the only thing that distinguishes people in the sight of God is their level of piety.

This verse proves that real honour and status is not attained because a person is rich or poor, black or white, male or female but attained through piety and devoutness. Therefore, it comes as no surprise to learn that for every male convert to Islam, four females convert. Some reasons for this overwhelming female conversion rate are due to the following rights enshrined in Islam:

• total control of their wealth;

• choose their spouse;

• keep their own surname when married;

• own property, operate a business, study, and receive equal pay for equal work;

• inherit property, and to have their marriage dissolved in the case of neglect or mistreatment;

• participate in all forms of worship that men participate in.

Allah says:

“Verily the most honourable of you in the sight of Allaah is the most God conscious” Qur’an 49:13

Islam guaranteed these rights, among many others, to women over 1400 years ago – rights that women in the West are still lacking.

Without doubt, there are Muslim women who are oppressed and not given their rights. However, this is not the fault of Islam. The problem is that in many places in the world, culture and traditions have come to overshadow the teachings of Islam, either through ignorance or harmful cultural practices.

While Islam enshrines the rights of women, it also acknowledges the fact that men and women are not identical.

Allah says: ‘...and the male is not like the female...’ (Qur’an: 3:36)

Islam has therefore ordained different roles for men and women to reflect this undisputable fact. Women have been granted the honour and tremendous responsibility of caring for the family and the household. While Men have been given the responsibility of providing financial support , security and maintenance for the family and the household.

In conclusion, the noble position of women in Islam can be summarized by the following saying of the Prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon him):

“The world and all things in the world are precious, but the most precious thing in the world is a virtuous woman.”

Allah also says:

“Whoever works righteousness whether male or female, while he (or she) is a believer – We will surely cause him to live a good life, and We will surely give them their reward (in the Hereafter) according to the best of what they used to do.” Qur’an 16:97
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If Islam opposes idol worship, why do Muslims pray to a square structure?

The simple cube-shaped stone building located in Makkah is called the Ka‘bah or the Sacred House. It is the point toward which Muslims face when they pray. Although Muslims face the direction of Ka‘bah during prayer, they do not worship it. Muslims worship and pray only to God.


The Ka‘bah was built by the prophet Abraham and his son Ishmael in response to God's command over 4,000 years ago. Abraham consecrated the House for the worship of the one true God and invited all of humanity to visit it for that purpose. Even today Muslims who are physically and financially able are required to make a pilgrimage to it once in a lifetime. The Ka‘bah has remained at the center of a continuous tradition of worship and devotion up to the present day, symbolic of permanence, constancy and renewal.


There were periods in human history during which mankind deviated from the monotheism taught by God's prophets. Before the advent of Muhammad, religion among the Arabs had degenerated into polytheism and paganism, and Makkah was completely submerged in idolatry; some 360 idols had been placed in and around the Ka‘bah to be worshipped there along with God. Prophet Muhammad was sent to restore to mankind the pure monotheism taught by all the messengers of God and reinstate the worship of Him alone. This he accomplished, and the Ka‘bah was finally cleared of all manmade deities.


Among the ancient religious rites particular to the Ka‘bah is walking around it. This suggests the integrating and unifying power of monotheism in human life and how a Muslim's existence should revolve around a pure devotion to God. The Ka‘bah symbolizes the unity of all true religion, the brotherhood of all the prophets, and the essential consistency of their message.


When Muslims pray facing toward this single central point, they are reminded of their common purpose and long-term goal. Even when standing directly before the Ka‘bah in prayer, one is not to look at it but rather at the ground before him. The spiritual focus is on God alone and never upon any created object.
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