The Democratic Primaries

[Lisa]

I doubt the Dems want Biden, but now they're stuck with him... for now. This is 100% their own shortsided idiotic fault.

I think they do want Biden..just like they wanted Hillary and why Pelosi is somehow the head honcho there...they dumb.

Next Democratic attack to take Trump out coming in 3...2...1...

Maybe...they’ve given him a whopper with the virus pandemic..

 

[vancityeagle]

I'm willing to keep an open mind, but the CONSTANT attacks from the Democrats and their MSM media - which started before Trump was even in office - does not support your theory. They have done nothing but try to destroy his presidency and take him out of office, each attempt becoming more desparate and extreme. This does not add up to a Trump/Democrat collusion.

Try a new theory, and maybe one that actually makes sense, like they the Dems threw every unwanted 'progressive' (socialist/communist) into the ring, but still came up short despite their best efforts. Why? They are completely tone deaf to real working class citizens and middle America, and most people saw through the virtue-signalling, pandering clown show.

I doubt the Dems want Biden, but now they're stuck with him... for now. This is 100% their own shortsided idiotic fault. An implausible Trump collusion theory isn't needed to see the Dems shot themselves in the foot.

Next Democratic attack to take Trump out coming in 3...2...1...

Its not so much Trump/Democrat collusion.

Its that the objectives of both Democrat and Republican elites are essentially the same, with minor differences in which they squabble over.

The Democrat establishment would rather Trump win than Bernie Sanders, thats why they sabotaged him in both 2016 and 2020.

The elites at the top, who are basically above the whole red team blue team sideshow WANTED TRUMP. So they can tell Democratic operatives to do things, which they may believe attack Trump, but in reality helps him. The Democrats were stalling on impeachment until they were given the time and order to do so, and the scope of it was severely limited. Again this shows that most likely people like Pelosi are being handed orders from above.

Trump's re election is being re engineered by these same elites, and that is why they have arranged for him to go up against a weak candidate. Yeah I think most of the Democrats are against Trump, but the big money behind them are orchestrating things and they want 4 more years, (possibly even more) of Trump to move forward their agenda.

You have to look above the red vs blue to figure out what is really going on, and they are setting up a fascist dictatorship with less freedom, government propaganda to serve as "news" , hi tech tracking of citizens, a police state, and an unstable world with more international conflict. See China and Iran.

 

[Lisa]

Its not so much Trump/Democrat collusion.

Its that the objectives of both Democrat and Republican elites are essentially the same, with minor differences in which they squabble over.

The Democrat establishment would rather Trump win than Bernie Sanders, thats why they sabotaged him in both 2016 and 2020.

The elites at the top, who are basically above the whole red team blue team sideshow WANTED TRUMP. So they can tell Democratic operatives to do things, which they may believe attack Trump, but in reality helps him. The Democrats were stalling on impeachment until they were given the time and order to do so, and the scope of it was severely limited. Again this shows that most likely people like Pelosi are being handed orders from above.

Trump's re election is being re engineered by these same elites, and that is why they have arranged for him to go up against a weak candidate. Yeah I think most of the Democrats are against Trump, but the big money behind them are orchestrating things and they want 4 more years, (possibly even more) of Trump to move forward their agenda.

You have to look above the red vs blue to figure out what is really going on, and they are setting up a fascist dictatorship with less freedom, government propaganda to serve as "news" , hi tech tracking of citizens, a police state, and an unstable world with more international conflict. See China and Iran.

You do have quite the imagination, anyway.

 

[justjess]

They didn’t prove anything that I saw. The FBI came back with head held low that they couldn’t find anything and he got impeached on partisan politics...can’t call that a win there.

Biden can’t win against trump at any election...they have yet to find more stupid people to vote for him..unless they make them up.

Tell that to the dozens of people sitting in jail as we speak Lisa. The only thing they didn’t prove was that trump colluded with them (Russians) to do it.

 

[illuminatimess]

Poor Bernie Guess he’s already tired from all these election battles. Killary manipulated his campaign. Trump is a strong opponent and maybe Bernie couldn’t handle his stupidity anymore lol

 

[justjess]

Poor Bernie Guess he’s already tired from all these election battles. Killary manipulated his campaign. Trump is a strong opponent and maybe Bernie couldn’t handle his stupidity anymore lol

I think the optics of making people go out to vote in the middle of a pandemic was just too much, personally.

 

[illuminatimess]

I think the optics of making people go out to vote in the middle of a pandemic was just too much, personally.

Might be :/

 

[Lisa]

Tell that to the dozens of people sitting in jail as we speak Lisa. The only thing they didn’t prove was that trump colluded with them (Russians) to do it.

They didn’t prove...hmmm?

 

[vancityeagle]

I understand the scenario you are presenting, and while I do agree there are invisible forces at work way above our pay grade, I don't see the evidence for the elites wanting Trump, especially when you consider how much Trump has disrupted much of the globalust elite status quo.

The elites are not entirely unified first of all.

The fact that Trump was elected shows you the elites wanted him. You dont actually think they would ever allow somebody who opposed their agenda to be elected into office do you ?

What has Trump disrupted ? He is the perfect candidate for them.

1. Causes widespread division of the masses, and exacerbated the culture wars and "clash of civilizations"

2. Bailed out billionaires and corporations with tax breaks and trillion dollar giveaways

3. Increased military budget, wars, sanctions

4. Increasing domestic police state and surveillance grid

5. On the way to dismantling media to be replaced with straight up regime propaganda.

6. Served Israel more than any previous president

7. Setting into motion war with Iran, Venezuela and China

 

[UnderAlienControl]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1247962438932131842

 

[illuminatimess]

1. The current race/class war was started and heavily pushed by Obama, and the media has continued on this course. Examples:

- Trump bans travel to China.
- Dems/MSM: "OMG - that's so racist and hateful!'. And then they endlessly report lies to support their bias.

- Trump calls for stopping ILLEGAL ALIENS at the border, encourages people to come in legally, and wants to put tax-paying citizens first.
- Dems/MSM: OMG - that's so racist and hateful!" And then they endless report lies to support their bias.

2. High Income earners received an increase to their taxes, by the way. Most people benefited from the tax cut, from middle to lower class. Basic economic primer on lowering taxes:
- Middle/lower income households able to spend more on products/goods, and housing, which in turn stimulates the economy in general. And it worked.
- More people are able to get out of debt and save.
- More people are able to start a business or grow the business they have
- Small and large corporations are able to hire more employees and boost benefits. Many large corporations gave their employees bonuses and/or increases in benefits in response to the tax cut. How horrible for America!
- Attract manufacturing [JOBS!] back to the U.S.

- Dems/MSM: "OMG - Trump only cares about billionaires!".

3. Our defense needed to be brought back up to speed after Obama's 'deplete the military' strategy. Can't defend ourselves without a strong military. A strong military also provides JOBS and stability, which were desparately needed after Obama.

4. Uhhh... that was Obama.

5. You. Cannot. Be. Serious. MSM is OWNED by the Dems/leftists, period. It's Trump hate, all the time, 24/7. You really can't peddle that lie with me - I'm not stupid.

6. The U.S. has always supported Israel.

7. Yeah, I've heard this SOOO many times the MSM: "OMG! Trump will get us into a war with [Iran, Syria, Venezuela, North Korea...]."
When did those wars happen, again?

When I read the first points, I was like yes yes yes, but when I continued reading, I was like no no just no. Do you know how much USA spends on their military while having the highest poverty in the first world?

 

[illuminatimess]

Its not so much Trump/Democrat collusion.

Its that the objectives of both Democrat and Republican elites are essentially the same, with minor differences in which they squabble over.

The Democrat establishment would rather Trump win than Bernie Sanders, thats why they sabotaged him in both 2016 and 2020.

The elites at the top, who are basically above the whole red team blue team sideshow WANTED TRUMP. So they can tell Democratic operatives to do things, which they may believe attack Trump, but in reality helps him. The Democrats were stalling on impeachment until they were given the time and order to do so, and the scope of it was severely limited. Again this shows that most likely people like Pelosi are being handed orders from above.

Trump's re election is being re engineered by these same elites, and that is why they have arranged for him to go up against a weak candidate. Yeah I think most of the Democrats are against Trump, but the big money behind them are orchestrating things and they want 4 more years, (possibly even more) of Trump to move forward their agenda.

You have to look above the red vs blue to figure out what is really going on, and they are setting up a fascist dictatorship with less freedom, government propaganda to serve as "news" , hi tech tracking of citizens, a police state, and an unstable world with more international conflict. See China and Iran.

Wow, that’s what I’ve always been thinking. Thanks for putting it in words!

 

[vancityeagle]

QUOTE="Lurking009, post: 289212, member: 2381"

So you can't tell me what elite agendas Trump is putting a stop to ?

1. The current race/class war was started and heavily pushed by Obama, and the media has continued on this course. Examples:

- Trump bans travel to China.
- Dems/MSM: "OMG - that's so racist and hateful!'. And then they endlessly report lies to support their bias.

- Trump calls for stopping ILLEGAL ALIENS at the border, encourages people to come in legally, and wants to put tax-paying citizens first.
- Dems/MSM: OMG - that's so racist and hateful!" And then they endless report lies to support their bias.

The race/class war has been on going since the founding of America. Trump has taken it to new levels not seen in recent history. Yeah Democrats exagerrate at times, but other times they are spot on in calling out his racism.

2. High Income earners received an increase to their taxes, by the way. Most people benefited from the tax cut, from middle to lower class. Basic economic primer on lowering taxes:
- Middle/lower income households able to spend more on products/goods, and housing, which in turn stimulates the economy in general. And it worked.
- More people are able to get out of debt and save.
- More people are able to start a business or grow the business they have
- Small and large corporations are able to hire more employees and boost benefits. Many large corporations gave their employees bonuses and/or increases in benefits in response to the tax cut. How horrible for America!
- Attract manufacturing [JOBS!] back to the U.S.

- Dems/MSM: "OMG - Trump only cares about billionaires!".

Reaganomics does not work. It is a proven failure. Its no coincidence since the beginning of this type of economics, it coincides with the rapid decline of the American Dream, standards of living and increased wealth inequality. Trumps tax breaks helped out the 1%. 88% of the savings helped out the oligarchs. More people have not got out of debt. Trump has lost more jobs to outsourcing than Obama I believe.

3. Our defense needed to be brought back up to speed after Obama's 'deplete the military' strategy. Can't defend ourselves without a strong military. A strong military also provides JOBS and stability, which were desparately needed after Obama.

LOL. spoken like a true sycophant.

4. Uhhh... that was Obama.

they are all in on it, passing along the baton, from Bush to Obama to Trump.

5. You. Cannot. Be. Serious. MSM is OWNED by the Dems/leftists, period. It's Trump hate, all the time, 24/7. You really can't peddle that lie with me - I'm not stupid.

yeah and Trump wants to replace the "fake news" MSM with the even "faker news" of Infowars,, Breitbart, FoxNews.

6. The U.S. has always supported Israel.

Never to the level it has under Trump. Trumps son in law had sleepovers with Netanyahu.

7. Yeah, I've heard this SOOO many times the MSM: "OMG! Trump will get us into a war with [Iran, Syria, Venezuela, North Korea...]."
When did those wars happen, again?

sanctions are an act of war. US is in a very weak position right now and those enemies are much stronger than foes they have taken down in the recent past. Trump is prepping for all of these wars/regime changes. Wait til his second term.[/QUOTE]

 

[Thunderian]

Who will Biden choose for his running mate?

 

[rainerann]

Wait til his second term.

don’t say that. No president should be allowed more than one term at this point. We should kick them all out the revolving door after four years and get a fresh one.

 

[justjess]

Well he said it would be a woman..

Klobuchar or Harris were my best guesses as well but he’s already doing really well with minorities so maybe lean more towards klobuchar... Get himself those purple votes.

Except he also needs the progressive vote. So he might try to tap someone from there.

 

[Lisa]

Would he pick Hillary and just watch his back?

 

[justjess]

Outside chance of Warren which would be best case scenario I think.

I’d be really mad at warren if that happened

 

[justjess]

Yeah I get it. Either Warren or Sanders should have stayed out this year. All they did was handicap each other. Warren should have ran in 16 like Sanders asked her too. I bet she could have beat Clinton and Trump.

Still I’d rather have Warren there than anybody else that’s been mentioned

Warren absolutely should have ran in 16. I was pissed that she didn’t.

I’m not so sure that they handicapped each other.. many warren supporters that I know weren’t crazy about Bernie, a bunch switched to Biden instead.

I love warren but she’s literally been feuding with Biden for decades, I’d find it really screwed up for her to be his VP now.

 

[Lisa]

Yeah I get it. Either Warren or Sanders should have stayed out this year. All they did was handicap each other. Warren should have ran in 16 like Sanders asked her too. I bet she could have beat Clinton and Trump.

Still I’d rather have Warren there than anybody else that’s been mentioned

Pocahontas couldn’t beat anyone..lol! She did it to herself.