The Coming Saviors – Moshiach, Messiah & Mahdi

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Lol...allah is not I Am. The God of the Bible is I Am. That’s strange that the quran talks about the Bible and tells people to read it when they get it all wrong by saying that everyone in the Bible are muslims which they aren’t. And if they really believed everything in the Bible then they would know that God has a begotten Son but they deny that too.
muslim means one who submits his/her will to God. all prophets and their followers submitted their will to God's that is why Quran calls them Muslims or those who submit their will to God's will.

Quran tells us that God indeed gave Jesus (pbuh) scripture but it was altered by men and one scripture became more than 66 often contradicting versions.

look at the word I AM, does it grammatically make sense to say I AM does not like something ? only God knows what was the original Hebrew word then it translated to something else in Greek and then to something like I AM which is against grammar rules and also is confusing.
 






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look at the word I AM, does it grammatically make sense to say I AM does not like something ? only God knows what was the original Hebrew word then it translated to something else in Greek and then to something like I AM which is against grammar rules and also is confusing.
But what if one considers and The "I AM" is understood to mean the Self-Exisiting (Allah) ?:

King of king's Bible, Sura
2:255. The "I AM" - (YHWH) (Allah). There is no god but He,- the Living, the Self-Existing - (YHWH in Hebrew - "I AM" in English), Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on Earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His Knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the Earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is The Most High, The Supreme (in Glory).

3:2. Allah (God). There is no God but He,- the Living, the Self-Existing (YHWH - "I AM"), Eternal.

17:110. Say: "Call upon "I AM", or call upon Most Merciful: by whatever name ye call upon Him, (it is well): for to Him belong the Most Beautiful Names. Neither speak (in thy mind) thy Prayer loudly, nor speak it in a low tone, but seek a middle course between."
17:111. Say: "Praise be to "I AM", Who begets no (human) son, and has no partner (Jeremiah 44:19-29) in (His) Dominion: nor (needs) He any to protect Him from humiliation: yea, magnify Him for His greatness and glory!"

In Exodus in the Bible, the prophet Moses asked God how he should answer the children of Israel if they ask him what God's Name is, and according to the Bible he was told:

Exodus
3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, [when] I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What [is] His name? what shall I say unto them?
3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and He said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, "I AM" hath sent me unto you.
 






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But what if one considers and The "I AM" is understood to mean the Self-Exisiting (Allah) ?:

King of king's Bible, Sura
2:255. The "I AM" - (YHWH) (Allah). There is no god but He,- the Living, the Self-Existing - (YHWH in Hebrew - "I AM" in English), Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on Earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His Knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the Earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is The Most High, The Supreme (in Glory).

3:2. Allah (God). There is no God but He,- the Living, the Self-Existing (YHWH - "I AM"), Eternal.

17:110. Say: "Call upon "I AM", or call upon Most Merciful: by whatever name ye call upon Him, (it is well): for to Him belong the Most Beautiful Names. Neither speak (in thy mind) thy Prayer loudly, nor speak it in a low tone, but seek a middle course between."
17:111. Say: "Praise be to "I AM", Who begets no (human) son, and has no partner (Jeremiah 44:19-29) in (His) Dominion: nor (needs) He any to protect Him from humiliation: yea, magnify Him for His greatness and glory!"

In Exodus in the Bible, the prophet Moses asked God how he should answer the children of Israel if they ask him what God's Name is, and according to the Bible he was told:

Exodus
3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, [when] I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What [is] His name? what shall I say unto them?
3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and He said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, "I AM" hath sent me unto you.
Where are you even getting these incorrect translations from?
 






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You question contains an unjustified assumption which makes it a loaded question.
The translations are incorrect no matter what you say here, that will ALWAYS be a fact because of the additions. So let me ask you again, where are you getting these incorrect translations from?
You can not change the verse and add other words in it just because you think it suits some other book.
 






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The translations are incorrect no matter what you say here, that will ALWAYS be a fact because of the additions.
That is a very closed minded statement to make.
The Abdullah Yusuf Ali Koran then also contains many "additions".
Which translation(s) do you use, please?

Further, there exist MANY differences in various different translations of the Quran into English. A Quran site such as Quranx.com can very easily be used to verify this.

Some of the (even popular) translations have even been deliberately interpreted to be totally biased from a HADITH perspective, as if doing that could somehow be considered truthful or valid by anyone (it is not). And as if that is going to somehow validate the Meccan Hadiths (which it does not).

The Meccans have been at it for centuries and although they have succeeded in fooling a great number of people into believing their lies, doing that is evil and it always will be.

The translation that I use has been translated and interpreted without being biased by the Hadiths. Many of the Meccan Koran versions even contain the word "Mecca" (or Makka) inserted, when Mecca is not even mentioned once in the Arabic.

If you wish, you can read an extract from the translation I am using, by clicking here:
Koran Extract
So let me ask you again, where are you getting these incorrect translations from?
As above.
 






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"In Arabic Mahdi, literally means, 'one rightly guided', and is often interpreted as 'the guided one'.

In Islam, Imam Mahdi is an ordinary man who will one day seek balance and stability in his daily life by simply following the teachings of the Qur'an. He will interpret the Holy Book like no one ever had before, and reach a perfect level of certainty (full knowledge). His full understanding on the true and righteous meanings of Islam will lead him to guide the world into a period of fairness and justice on earth. He will be followed by Jesus (in the Qur'an mentioned as Isa), and; together they will lead the minds towards the Day of Judgement (mentioned as Qiyamat in the Qur'an) and raise the world into heaven."
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mahdi

"One rightly guided" or the "guided one" is a description of who else, but Christ/Isa (Jesus).

"He will interpret the Holy Book like no one ever had before and reach a perfect level of certainty (full knowledge)"

That is exactly what the Koran in the King of kings' Bible By JAH Muad'Dib is, because it's the first time ever that the Koran has been studied and interpreted as being in perfect harmony with the previous scripture (known as the "king James 1611 Bible") as it says it should be, in the Quran, and has been made available for all to read.
 






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That is a very closed minded statement to make.
The Abdullah Yusuf Ali Koran then also contains many "additions".
Which translation(s) do you use, please?

Further, there exist MANY differences in various different translations of the Quran into English. A Quran site such as Quranx.com can very easily be used to verify this.

Some of the (even popular) translations have even been deliberately interpreted to be biased from a HADITH point of view and a HADITH perspective, as if doing that could be considered truthful or valid by anyone (it is not). As if that is going to somehow validate the Hadiths (which it does not).

The Meccans have been at it for centuries and although they have succeeded in fooling a great number of people into believing their lies, doing that is evil and it always will be.

The translation that I use has been translated and interpreted without being biased by the Hadiths. Many of the Meccan Koran versions even contain the word "Mecca" (or Makka) inserted, when Mecca is not even mentioned once in the Arabic.

If you wish, you can read an extract from the translation I am using, by clicking here:
Koran Extract

As above.
So you know Arabic then?
 






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P.S. It is well known by Arabic scholars though that the name Makka/Mecca does not appear in the Quran.
 






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Not personally, no. And you?
Actually Yes.

So not only you are taking incorrect translations with irrelevant additions, but you are claiming to be correct in this scenario and we are wrong while you can't even read what you are "translating".
 






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Actually Makkah does appear in the Quran, both by its old name as well as its new name.
It does not.

P.S. Your claim that the translation I use is incorrect is an opinion that is based on an unjustified assumption that you have made.
 






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3rd party analysis? I can literally read it in Arabic and see the word Makkah in it. This Jah guy must either be blind or awfully ignorant to miss that and make these conspiracies.
Is that your conclusion after reading the following?

1- Makkah/Mecca is never found mentioned anywhere in the Koran
2- that the Kaba was never in Mecca
3- that all of the references to the Kaba (and synonyms) most closely resemble Jerusalem

"....the Ka'Ba as with the other synonymous expressions al-bayt (the house)
(8x), al-bayt al-? Atîq (the old house) (2x), al-bayt al- Harâm (the holy house)
(2x), al-masgid al-Harâm (the holy prayer house) (15x), al-maš? ar al-Harâm (the
holy place of pilgrimage) (1x), this question will be discussed philologically.
As a result, it will be seen that all these terms are most closely related to
Jerusalem...."

No "Mecca" (Makka) and no "Bakka" in the Quran To Sure 48:24 and 3:96 A philological analysis
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/8ud1l9 "The original meaning of Kaaba is something round shaped not cubic we can still
see this in the qarmatian Kaaba and that's logic, it's a temple created for the
purpose of turning around it. The cube meaning is late, and it was even
transported to english and frensh, but we still find some words in arabic
deriving from Kaab and keeping the original round meaning like the "Kaab" of the
feet...

Mecca as a city didn't exist before 700, museums in saudi arabia are empty, they
never found an artifact from the 7th century, they even built huge buildings
around the kaaba, they never found something. No one ever heard or wrote about
this city, an old rock writing in Taif say that the masjid al haram was built in
698, the first time mecca appear in a paper writing is in spain 724. the quraych
tribe is from syria, confirmed with DNA tests, and we have families in syria
with that name. The script used in the area of mecca was the south arabian
script and it was more complete than the nabatean script, if the quran was from
mecca he should have been written in this south arabian script. Mecca as a
center of trade is not possible, the distances in the biography are not right,
Patricia crone say that in the history books, some people traveled from medina
to irak passing by mecca, and that's not logical. The mosques orientations are
wrong, they are not facing mecca, in north africa they're facing parallel, and
the old mosques are facing somewhere in jordan with clear mihrab direction
change even after the supposed death of Mo. Quran verses are speaking about a
different geography than the one we find in mecca, a verse is saying that the
meccans pass by the dead sea day and night.

And philologically, the quran is not speaking about a city, but about a temple,
and since the quran is entirely centered on jerusalem and jewish culture, it's
probably speaking about jerusalem, and the bakka is indeed from the psalms.

Something is not right, last year, archeologists found a new hidden temple in
Petra, i hope they find a quran verse in it, or a direct link.

We also have problems with the night journey verse, it's probably not speaking
about mo but about moses fleeing by the red sea from the army of pharaoh. We
have other problems like the fact that the night journeyhappened in mecca and
the 5 prayers were fixed in mecca, but muslims sarted praying five times a day
only at medina, and in some hadiths, mo saw a winged horse in the doll
collection of aisha, she said that solomon had a winged horse, then mo started
laughing, like if he didn't believe in it.

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"The first house of God set up for man is the one in Bakka . 81: ie Mecca ], (
set ) for the blessing and guidance for people around the world ( al-'alamun )
".

Syntax: Even an Arabist will notice that something is wrong with the syntax of
this sentence. The predicate of this sentence is the last sentence: "is the one
in Bakka ". This ends the sentence. This is followed by (in the Arabic
accusative) "for the blessing and guidance of the people". Because this addition
is missing the verb that governs this accusative, to Paret has been forced to
the verb ( set ) to repeat in parentheses to justify the following accusative.
Paret does not realize that the actual verb that governs this accusative is just
this lettering " bakka " (allegedly) " in Bakka ".

The Koranic lettering ( rasm ) shows two undefined ciphers and two unique k and
h ( ? Kh ). The final hour is provided with two points, be interpreted as Arabic
feminine ending, what is also at "Bakka ta has wrongly assumed". For the end- h
can also denote the masculine personal suffix, which here refers to " bayt"
(house) in the antecedent. The author therefore proposed the following
conjecture in his abovementioned study (page 336, note 352):

inna awwala baytin wudi'a li-n-nasi la-lladi tayyaka-hu mubarakan wa-hudan
li-l-'alamin

This conjecture restores the syntax of this sentence as follows:

"The first (holy) house created for the people is the one that he has fenced (
fenced ) as a blessed (sanctuary) (and) to guide people ."

This understanding is supported by Sura 17: 1 where it is said of the " distant
house of prayer ": alladi bârak-nâ hawla-hu = "whose environment we have blessed
". An alternative verbal form for the chosen letter bi-Bakka follows elsewhere.

Result of the philogical discussion of the expression ( fî batni makka ) " in
the valley bottom of Mecca ":

Arabic batn is Syro-Aramaic karsa again, meaning here: in the midst of [9] .

makka means Syro-Aramaic "melee , physical altercation ".

The discussed passage from Surah 48:24 should therefore be understood as follows:

"He is the one who in the midst of a (physical) conflict has removedtheir hands
from you and your hands from them ..."

If Mecca is not mentioned in the Qur'an after that, it will be clarified in a
next post what may be meant by the Ka'ba , the central sanctuary of Islam.

1 year ago
http://www.imprimatur-trier.de/2012/imp120706.html

...... Consequences of the misreading of bi-Bakka and the misinterpretation of
Makka (Mecca)

Did the in-depth philological analysis suggest that the Koran neither has a
primary place called Bakka [5]yet another modified secondary name Makka (Mecca)
knows, since these putative place names are based on a misreading or
misinterpretation of unrecognized Syro-Aramaic expressions, so can with the
two-time occurring expression "umm al-qurâ" (Sura 6:92 and 42: 7) (literally
"mother of the cities" = supposedly "capital") also not meant Mecca. At the same
time, this leads to the realization that Ka'ba, which has been mentioned twice
in the Quran (Sura 5:95, 97), the central sanctuary of Islam, could not have
been in Mecca. What place and what exactly the Koran with the Ka'Ba as with the
other synonymous expressions al-bayt (the house) (8x), al-bayt al-? Atîq (the
old house) (2x), al-bayt al- Harâm (the holy house) (2x), al-masgid al-Harâm
(the holy prayer house) (15x), al-maš? ar al-Harâm (the holy place of
pilgrimage) (1x), this question will be discussed philologically. As a result,
it will be seen that all these terms are most closely related to Jerusalem."
 






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P.S. You should also read the Mahdi's Letter to you below and watch His new film release, that is called "7/7 Ripple Effect 3"
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In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
THOUSANDS KILLED IN MECCA- God's Curse

Dear Muslims,​
God continues to punish those who disobey Him, as He has promised to do in His Holy Koran.​
In the Koran God has told those people who are "True in Faith" that they must, if they can afford to, make a "Pilgrimage" to Abraham's Station (Mt. Moriah) in the City of Peace/Salem - Jeru-Salem (Sura 2:124-126), where Abraham offered to sacrifice his miracle son, Isaac, to God (Genesis 22 v 1-2).​
God has told you to visit this "Holiest of Holy" places so that His people would "lay to heart" what Abraham did and follow his example (Sura 2:124 God made Abraham an example/imam to all of his children).​
Abraham proved, at Mt. Moriah, that he loved God more than EVERYTHING on Earth and that he believed ONLY God and thereby became the "Friend of God".​
You too have to go there, so that YOU can remember what Abraham did and be willing to do the same (Abraham is the example to his children - Sura 2:124-126), and believe and serve ONLY God. This was repeated by God to Moses in the TenCOMMANDMENTS and is the FIRST and most important of all the COMMANDMENTS - that you LOVE God with ALL your heart, ALL your soul;ALL your mind and Him ONLY shall you serve. That means keeping only His Laws and His Covenant (Sura 16:91).​
God also told those who are "True in Faith" to turn their face to Abraham's Station (Mt. Moriah) when they pray.​
Therefore, those people who pray facing Mecca and go there on Pilgrimage are NOT "True in Faith" (Muslims) because they are dis-obeying God and His Koran and are, instead, obeying the Meccans and their Hadith.​
The Meccans wrote the Hadith to "market" Mecca as the new religious centre of "Islam" - their new "religion", so that they could continue to make lots of money from pilgrims, as they had already been doing for hundreds of years before Mohammed Mustafa came along. This was exactly what the Vatican did to christianity. Things NEVER change.​
Islam means doing the Will of God and His Will is that you visit Mt. Moriah, in Jerusalem. So, how can Mecca be the centre of doing God's Will - Islam? It can NOT. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE! God does not change His Mind and His promises to mankind.​
Last year alone 2,000,000 pilgrims spent billions in Mecca, 1400 of them were KILLED because they were NOT "True in Faith" (Muslims) and were NOT doing God's Will (Islam) as He has told them in His Koran (Sura 2:144) and in His Bible (Genesis 22 v 2-3, 14; 2 Chronicles 3 v 1 & 6 v 20-21; 1 Kings 6 v 1-2, 11-14), where He has said repeatedly that everyone must face Mt. Moriah the "Holy of Holies", where Abraham offered to sacrifice Isaac not Ishmael (Torah-Genesis 22).​
"Koran - Sura 32:23. We did indeed aforetime give the Book (The Torah:- Genesis; Exodus; Leviticus; Numbers and Deuteronomy) to Moses: be then NOT IN DOUBT of its (The Torah) reaching (THEE - the readers of this Koran - moslems): and We made it a Guide to the Children of Israel."​
This year, so far, there have been 2,000,000 pilgrims and at least 1000 people have been killed because they are in the WRONG place.​
How many thousands must be killed before "the blind" can SEE that God is punishing them for obeying the Meccan Hadith, instead of God's Koran. God is telling you NOT to go to Mecca but to go where He told you to go - Mt. Moriah in the City of Peace/SALEM - JeruSALEM - Sura 2:124-126.​
Just how blind can people be?​
IF these people had been doing God's Will (Islam) they would not have been killed because they would have been in Jerusalem not in Mecca.​
Abraham's Station is on Mt. Moriah in JeruSALEM, it is NOT in Mecca, because God says so.​
When will you learn to obey ONLY God, as Abraham your example did - faithful Abraham.​
If you don't, you will ALL die, soon, as God has told you repeatedly in His Koran and it is My duty to remind you before it is TOO late. The choice is YOURS.​
JAH - Muad'dib - AMEN
 






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I can read that your translation is incorrect though. How are you confirming that its correct?

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I'm not able to read Arabic, but I can confirm it as being correct because of seeing that what it is saying is in perfect harmony with all the Scripture that came before it.

King of kings' Bible, Koran, Sura
6:92. And this is a Book which We have sent down, bringing blessings, and confirming (the revelations) which came before it: that thou mayest warn the Mother of Cities (Jerusalem - Isaiah 1:1, 21; Matt. 23:37) and all around her (just like almost all of the previous Prophets were also told to do). Those who believe in the Hereafter (also) believe this (Book), and they are constant in guarding their prayers.

46:10. Say: "See ye? If (this teaching) be from "I AM", and ye reject it, and a Witness (Rev. 1:5; Sura 43:61) from among the Children of Israel testifies to its HARMONY (with EARLIER Scripture - JAH), and has believed while ye are arrogant, (how unjust ye are!) truly, "I AM" guides not a people unjust."
46:11. The Unbelievers say of those who believe: "If (this Message) were a good thing, (such men) would not have gone to it first, before us!" And seeing that they guide not themselves thereby, they will say, "this is an (old,) old falsehood!"
46:12. And before this, was the Book of Moses (Torah) as a guide and a mercy: and this Book CONFIRMS (it - the Torah) in the Arabic tongue; to warn the unjust, and as Good News to those who do right.
 






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