The CIA, Cults and Pastorpreneurs.

Karlysymon

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Scientology & the CIA.

Jim Jones; A CIA Operative



Jesus, CEO

"It would be dishonest to ignore the fact that the globalist agenda is very
busy infiltrating the church, Evangelical leaders, seminaries, denominations and churches.
This pervasive lack of understanding among some in Christian leadership – that they are being used – reflects a dangerous ignorance and lack of understanding about who are the very powerful groups and individuals who control our world. To dismiss this as a
conspiracy theory in light of the enormous body of credible documentation from mainstream and accurate sources borders on idiocy."

It would also be naive of one, to not think that some of the biggest names in Protestantism; whose books make it to bestseller lists, maintain a cozy relationship with the political establishment, aren't
outfitted with intelligence agencies or aren't simply bought to sell agendas to their flock . Richard Land (Southern Baptist leader) and Pat Robertson are rumored CFR members. Rick Warren of SaddleBack megachurch is a member aswell.
No wonder prophetic interpretation, from some of these people, so often mirrors geopolitics and is the mainstream.
 

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No wonder prophetic interpretation, from some of these people, so often mirrors geopolitics and is the mainstream.
Sure there are wolves in sheep's clothing posing as pastors.

Any example of their prophetic interpretation ?
 

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the notion of a 'whisked away' rapture & the worship of a race of people, ie Jews
That is interesting what you say about the rapture, but according to scripture, there seems to be indeed a "whisked away" interpretation...

39 And they were oblivious, until the flood came and swept them all away. So will be the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.…

Matthew 24:40
 

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That is interesting what you say about the rapture, but according to scripture, there seems to be indeed a "whisked away" interpretation...

39 And they were oblivious, until the flood came and swept them all away. So will be the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.…

Matthew 24:40
Only if you separate it out from the whole rest of the bible without understanding types and symbols or reading the rest.
 

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That is interesting what you say about the rapture, but according to scripture, there seems to be indeed a "whisked away" interpretation...

39 And they were oblivious, until the flood came and swept them all away. So will be the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.…

Matthew 24:40
these people are not getting 'whisked away' to heaven

you have to take this in context of what Matt 24 & 25 are saying (there are no chapter breaks in the original writing, chapter breaks are added for expediency's sake)

Matt 24:15-28 is talking about the abomination of desolation & great tribulation occurring.

then
29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.​
[this is the 6th seal we are at. Compare with Rev 6:12-17 (the 6th seal) (imo, the great tribulation begins Dec 21, 2020, then 45 days later is this 'day of the Lord' that cuts short the 'great tribulation' (Matt 24:21-22) / start of the 7 trumpets/ day of the Lord)
30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man,​
[Feb 11, 2021 cross formation star sign]
and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

'Angels' in verse 31 in Greek is 'messengers'. The dead in Christ are 'gathered' and resurrected - in heaven (the 'great multitude' in Revelation 7 that is 'coming out of the 'great tribulation'. The living Christians are 'gathered' and metaphorically resurrected (see Ezekiel 37:1-14) - gathered on earth by the messengers/ 2 witnesses (remember that the gospel of the kingdom of heaven will be preached (Matt 24:14). They didn't go anywhere. Let's keep reading
32 “From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near. 33 So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates. 34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.​
36 “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. 37 For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark,​
39 and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left. 42 Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom his master has set over his household, to give them their food at the proper time? 46 Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes. 47 Truly, I say to you, he will set him over all his possessions. 48 But if that wicked servant says to himself, ‘My master is delayed,’ 49 and begins to beat his fellow servants and eats and drinks with drunkards, 50 the master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know 51 and will cut him in pieces and put him with the hypocrites. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.​

continuation from Matt 25 (note the red highlight of being awake in both verse above & below)

Then the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish, and five were wise. 3 For when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with them, 4 but the wise took flasks of oil with their lamps.​
5 As the bridegroom was delayed, they all became drowsy and slept. 6 But at midnight there was a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Come out to meet him.’ 7 Then all those virgins rose and trimmed their lamps. 8 And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’ 9 But the wise answered, saying, ‘Since there will not be enough for us and for you, go rather to the dealers and buy for yourselves.’ 10 And while they were going to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast, and the door was shut. 11 Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, lord, open to us.’ 12 But he answered, ‘Truly, I say to you, I do not know you.’ 13 Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.

It literally states that the 'kingdom of heaven' that has begun at the 'day of the Lord' (the 'day that cut short the great tribulation) and that Jesus 'has been delayed'. (Matt 25:5) The wise virgins are the people who are 'taken', going back to your verse 40, 2 in the field, 1 taken etc.

The thing that probably seems strange here to people is that the 'day of the Lord' has begun (it cut short the 'great tribulation') but Jesus is not ruling the world! There is no 'whisked away' rapture - people have to put in the spiritual readiness (have oil) and then after Jesus is not 'delayed' anymore, then these wise virgins are taken into the kingdom of heaven (on earth). (this occurs at the 'come up here' of Revelation 11, after the 2 witnesses have testified for 1260 days / after the 2nd woe. As I have posited elsewhere, Feb 4, 2021 starts the 'day of the Lord', 5 months later (aka the 5th Trumpet's 5 months) would be July 2, 2021 (solar calendar July 4, 2021 breaking the covenant in the middle of the 70 '7's/ 245 years) add 1260 days to get to Dec 13, 2024, which starts the year of recompense, 5 months after this is the 77th solar anniversary of Israel add 7 months cleanup of Gog to finish out the year at Dec 13, 2025 start of Hanukah.)

the fact of the matter is, the great tribulation occurs, then the 'antichrist' rules:

Matt 24
21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. 22 And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. 23 Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.​
see, it says that the great tribulation is cut short, then false christs & prophets arise. These false christs & prophets are 'leading astray' the 'kingdom of heaven' (which Matt 25 just defined as the 10 virgins). the 5 foolish virgins comprise the whore of Babylon who rules the 7 headed beast with 10 horns. (Rev 17, 18)

Again, the people that you said were 'whisked away', were not whisked away, they were the 5 wise virgins who had to wait until 'Jesus was not delayed anymore' when He says to 'come up here' (see Matt 22's parable of the wedding feast https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22&version=ESV this explains 'come up here' with being humble - the wise virgins are humble and have oil because of this. this is what is occurring at the end of the 2nd woe

But one last, more concise point:
39 and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left. 42 Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

Here Jesus is comparing himself to a thief. Where else does Jesus compare himself to a thief?
Matt 12

22Then a demon-oppressed man who was blind and mute was brought to him, and he healed him, so that the man spoke and saw.23And all the people were amazed, and said, “Can this be the Son of David?”24But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this man casts out demons.”​
25Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand.26And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?​
27And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges.28But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.​
29 Or how can someone enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? Then indeed he may plunder his house.
30 Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.
31Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.32And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.​

hopefully, you can see that Jesus is saying the exact same thing in Matt 24 as in Matt 12 above: He is the 'thief' that is 'plundering' the 'strong man's house'.

that word 'plunder' is the Greek word 'harpazo' which means ' to seize/ snatch away / plunder'.

It is this exact word that 'whisked away' rapture promoters use to 'show' allegedly that Jesus will magically 'whisk' them away: Jesus will 'harpazo' / snatch away 'only the real believers, if you don't really really really believe, then you won't get 'snatched away'.

But that word 'harpazo' is Jesus saying that he will 'seize' people - the messengers/ angels will gather people that have come out of Babylon.
 

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these people are not getting 'whisked away' to heaven

you have to take this in context of what Matt 24 & 25 are saying (there are no chapter breaks in the original writing, chapter breaks are added for expediency's sake)

Matt 24:15-28 is talking about the abomination of desolation & great tribulation occurring.

then
29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.​


[this is the 6th seal we are at. Compare with Rev 6:12-17 (the 6th seal) (imo, the great tribulation begins Dec 21, 2020, then 45 days later is this 'day of the Lord' that cuts short the 'great tribulation' (Matt 24:21-22) / start of the 7 trumpets/ day of the Lord)


30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man,​


[Feb 11, 2021 cross formation star sign]


and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

'Angels' in verse 31 in Greek is 'messengers'. The dead in Christ are 'gathered' and resurrected - in heaven (the 'great multitude' in Revelation 7 that is 'coming out of the 'great tribulation'. The living Christians are 'gathered' and metaphorically resurrected (see Ezekiel 37:1-14) - gathered on earth by the messengers/ 2 witnesses (remember that the gospel of the kingdom of heaven will be preached (Matt 24:14). They didn't go anywhere. Let's keep reading

32 “From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near. 33 So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates. 34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.​


36 “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. 37 For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark,​


39 and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left. 42 Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.


45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom his master has set over his household, to give them their food at the proper time? 46 Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes. 47 Truly, I say to you, he will set him over all his possessions. 48 But if that wicked servant says to himself, ‘My master is delayed,’ 49 and begins to beat his fellow servants and eats and drinks with drunkards, 50 the master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know 51 and will cut him in pieces and put him with the hypocrites. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.​

continuation from Matt 25 (note the red highlight of being awake in both verse above & below)

Then the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish, and five were wise. 3 For when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with them, 4 but the wise took flasks of oil with their lamps.​


5 As the bridegroom was delayed, they all became drowsy and slept. 6 But at midnight there was a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Come out to meet him.’ 7 Then all those virgins rose and trimmed their lamps. 8 And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’ 9 But the wise answered, saying, ‘Since there will not be enough for us and for you, go rather to the dealers and buy for yourselves.’ 10 And while they were going to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast, and the door was shut. 11 Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, lord, open to us.’ 12 But he answered, ‘Truly, I say to you, I do not know you.’ 13 Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.

It literally states that the 'kingdom of heaven' that has begun at the 'day of the Lord' (the 'day that cut short the great tribulation) and that Jesus 'has been delayed'. (Matt 25:5) The wise virgins are the people who are 'taken', going back to your verse 40, 2 in the field, 1 taken etc.

The thing that probably seems strange here to people is that the 'day of the Lord' has begun (it cut short the 'great tribulation') but Jesus is not ruling the world! There is no 'whisked away' rapture - people have to put in the spiritual readiness (have oil) and then after Jesus is not 'delayed' anymore, then these wise virgins are taken into the kingdom of heaven (on earth). (this occurs at the 'come up here' of Revelation 11, after the 2 witnesses have testified for 1260 days / after the 2nd woe. As I have posited elsewhere, Feb 4, 2021 starts the 'day of the Lord', 5 months later (aka the 5th Trumpet's 5 months) would be July 2, 2021 (solar calendar July 4, 2021 breaking the covenant in the middle of the 70 '7's/ 245 years) add 1260 days to get to Dec 13, 2024, which starts the year of recompense, 5 months after this is the 77th solar anniversary of Israel add 7 months cleanup of Gog to finish out the year at Dec 13, 2025 start of Hanukah.)

the fact of the matter is, the great tribulation occurs, then the 'antichrist' rules:

Matt 24
21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. 22 And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. 23 Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.​

see, it says that the great tribulation is cut short, then false christs & prophets arise. These false christs & prophets are 'leading astray' the 'kingdom of heaven' (which Matt 25 just defined as the 10 virgins). the 5 foolish virgins comprise the whore of Babylon who rules the 7 headed beast with 10 horns. (Rev 17, 18)

Again, the people that you said were 'whisked away', were not whisked away, they were the 5 wise virgins who had to wait until 'Jesus was not delayed anymore' when He says to 'come up here' (see Matt 22's parable of the wedding feast https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22&version=ESV this explains 'come up here' with being humble - the wise virgins are humble and have oil because of this. this is what is occurring at the end of the 2nd woe

But one last, more concise point:
39 and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left. 42 Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

Here Jesus is comparing himself to a thief. Where else does Jesus compare himself to a thief?
Matt 12

22Then a demon-oppressed man who was blind and mute was brought to him, and he healed him, so that the man spoke and saw.23And all the people were amazed, and said, “Can this be the Son of David?”24But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this man casts out demons.”​


25Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand.26And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?​


27And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges.28But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.​


29 Or how can someone enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? Then indeed he may plunder his house.


30 Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.


31Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.32And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.​

hopefully, you can see that Jesus is saying the exact same thing in Matt 24 as in Matt 12 above: He is the 'thief' that is 'plundering' the 'strong man's house'.

that word 'plunder' is the Greek word 'harpazo' which means ' to seize/ snatch away / plunder'.

It is this exact word that 'whisked away' rapture promoters use to 'show' allegedly that Jesus will magically 'whisk' them away: Jesus will 'harpazo' / snatch away 'only the real believers, if you don't really really really believe, then you won't get 'snatched away'.

But that word 'harpazo' is Jesus saying that he will 'seize' people - the messengers/ angels will gather people that have come out of Babylon.
OK I see. Nicely explained thanks!
 

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the notion of a 'whisked away' rapture & the worship of a race of people, ie Jews
No one worships the Jews. What's wrong with you? Why do you hate the rapture so much? I have never seen such scorn and vilification from so-called Christians against those who hold a difference in non-salvational doctrine.
 

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these people are not getting 'whisked away' to heaven

you have to take this in context of what Matt 24 & 25 are saying (there are no chapter breaks in the original writing, chapter breaks are added for expediency's sake)

Matt 24:15-28 is talking about the abomination of desolation & great tribulation occurring.

then
29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.​


[this is the 6th seal we are at. Compare with Rev 6:12-17 (the 6th seal) (imo, the great tribulation begins Dec 21, 2020, then 45 days later is this 'day of the Lord' that cuts short the 'great tribulation' (Matt 24:21-22) / start of the 7 trumpets/ day of the Lord)


30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man,​
and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

'Angels' in verse 31 in Greek is 'messengers'. The dead in Christ are 'gathered' and resurrected - in heaven (the 'great multitude' in Revelation 7 that is 'coming out of the 'great tribulation'. The living Christians are 'gathered' and metaphorically resurrected (see Ezekiel 37:1-14) - gathered on earth by the messengers/ 2 witnesses (remember that the gospel of the kingdom of heaven will be preached (Matt 24:14). They didn't go anywhere. Let's keep reading


Matt 24
21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. 22 And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. 23 Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.​

see, it says that the great tribulation is cut short, then false christs & prophets arise. These false christs & prophets are 'leading astray' the 'kingdom of heaven' (which Matt 25 just defined as the 10 virgins). the 5 foolish virgins comprise the whore of Babylon who rules the 7 headed beast with 10 horns. (Rev 17, 18)

Again, the people that you said were 'whisked away', were not whisked away, they were the 5 wise virgins who had to wait until 'Jesus was not delayed anymore' when He says to 'come up here' (see Matt 22's parable of the wedding feast https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22&version=ESV this explains 'come up here' with being humble - the wise virgins are humble and have oil because of this. this is what is occurring at the end of the 2nd woe



Here Jesus is comparing himself to a thief. Where else does Jesus compare himself to a thief?
hopefully, you can see that Jesus is saying the exact same thing in Matt 24 as in Matt 12 above: He is the 'thief' that is 'plundering' the 'strong man's house'.

that word 'plunder' is the Greek word 'harpazo' which means ' to seize/ snatch away / plunder'.

It is this exact word that 'whisked away' rapture promoters use to 'show' allegedly that Jesus will magically 'whisk' them away: Jesus will 'harpazo' / snatch away 'only the real believers, if you don't really really really believe, then you won't get 'snatched away'.

But that word 'harpazo' is Jesus saying that he will 'seize' people - the messengers/ angels will gather people that have come out of Babylon.

Good post although i do not concur with the date settings.

So for the sake of the elect or chosen or first fruits or 5 wise virgins... Jesus will come like a thief and plunder them from the earth's strongman aka satan after the 6th seal but before the 7th right ?
 

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the notion of a 'whisked away' rapture & the worship of a race of people, ie Jews
That reminds one of the Heaven's Gate cult. Maybe a dry-run for something bigger.
As is the norm, military service (like Hubbard) and psychiatry feature in the cult's back story.

What's interesting though, is that common to cults born in the 60s and 70s, they either originated in or moved and set up shop in California. I guess, when the unseen Pied Piper summoned the soon-to-be legendary
rock stars to Laurel Canyon, the likes of Jim Jones and Applewhite couldn't resist the call. How else can it be explained?

"[Neil Young] He told an interviewer that he couldn’t really say why he headed out to LA circa 1966; he and others “were just going like Lemmings.”
Sure there are wolves in sheep's clothing posing as pastors.

Any example of their prophetic interpretation ?
We can't deny the PTB aren't sitting still and haven't weaponised eschatology.

 

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Good post although i do not concur with the date settings.

So for the sake of the elect or chosen or first fruits or 5 wise virgins... Jesus will come like a thief and plunder them from the earth's strongman aka satan after the 6th seal but before the 7th right ?
I only put dates in here for a context, which I feel makes it easier to get a handle on. Again, I'm not dogmatic about it, but I like to have a framework for things.

as to the other point, mostly yes. Yes, Jesus is the 'thief' that will plunder/ seize/ 'snatch away' / 'harpazo' the 10 virgins (both good & bad Christians) from Satan when Satan is 'kicked out of heaven' (aka the 'kingdom of heaven on earth' aka the 10 virgins starts when Satan is kicked out of it by Michael). the gathering of the 144,000 & the' great multitude' occurring at the 7th seal starts the kingdom of heaven. But, that said, there are 2 'seizings' going on. Both the wheat & the tares have been saved (they both have 'called on the name of the Lord'). The 5 wise & the 5 foolish virgins have both been saved out of the 'great tribulation' and led into the 'kingdom of heaven' that is starting, but Jesus 'has been delayed'. (Matt 25:5). After his 'delay', then the 5 wise virgins are 'seized'/ plundered.

Again, 1st the kingdom of heaven starts where both wise and foolish virgins have been brought out of the great tribulation (the great multitude at the 7th seal.) Then Jesus will 'plunder' the wise virgins at a later date. It is not possible to determine/ the information is not given to be able to determine when Jesus will do this, because the foolish virgins need to be tested and sorted from the wise.

Let's look at some scripture for the 6th seal:

Dan 12
At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the sky above; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever. 4 But you, Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book, until the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”​
So, here we have: Michael, the great prince who delivers his people ('all who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved' Joel 2:32), the great tribulation = the 'time of trouble such has never been' ; the people that are delivered are the people that are found in Revelation 7, the 144,000 & the 'great multitude coming out of the great tribulation'. Same thing I was describing: the 'great tribulation', at the 5th/ 6th Seal, then the day of the Lord starts at the Trumpets. People are 'delivered' from the great tribulation, they aren't 'whisked away'.

the righteous are called 'stars' at verse 3 above

Dan 8
9 Out of one of them came a little horn, which grew exceedingly great toward the south, toward the east, and toward the glorious land. 10 It grew great, even to the host of heaven. And some of the host and some of the stars it threw down to the ground and trampled on them.11 It became great, even as great as the Prince of the host. And the regular burnt offering was taken away from him, and the place of his sanctuary was overthrown.​
12 And an army will be given over to it together with the regular burnt offering because of transgression, and it will throw truth to the ground, and it will act and prosper. 13 Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to the one who spoke, “For how long is the vision concerning the regular burnt offering, the transgression that makes desolate, and the giving over of the sanctuary and host to be trampled underfoot?” 14 And he said to me, “For 2,300 evenings and mornings. Then the sanctuary shall be restored to its rightful state.”​

the 'prince of the host' would be 'Michael' who stands up to deliver his people. the 'regular burnt offering' is taken away at the start of 1290 days (Dan 12: 11 And from the time that the regular burnt offering is taken away and the abomination that makes desolate is set up, there shall be 1,290 days. 12 Blessed is he who waits and arrives at the 1,335 days. 13 But go your way till the end. And you shall rest and shall stand in your allotted place at the end of the days.”

Dec 21, 2020 starts the 1335 day counter, 45 days later starts the 1290 days counter on Feb 4, 2021. Both of these days have a 'removal of the daily sacrifice' (which could mean literal animal sacrifices and/ or prayers) (aka 'breaking the covenant' of Dan 9:27) (5 bible / lunar months of the 5th Trumpet = 147 days + 1143 days of the sanctuary trampled (2300 evenings & mornings = 1150 days minus 7 days required to cleanse it (Ezek 43:26) = 1143 days. 1143 + 147 = 1290 days.)

Rev 12
4 His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she bore her child he might devour it.​
[...]​
7 Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought back, 8 but he was defeated, and there was no longer any place for them in heaven.​
9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.​
10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God. 11 And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death.​
12 Therefore, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to you, O earth and sea, for the devil has come down to you in great wrath, because he knows that his time is short!”​
Here, Michael is standing up to deliver his people. this is the start of the 'kingdom of heaven' (which Matt 25:5 says 'the kingdom of heaven is likened to 10 virgins. 5 wise, 5 foolish') That's why is says 'the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ has come', this is the 'day of the Lord that is cutting short the 'great tribulation'. Then it says: rejoice o heavens, woe to the earth & sea. The 'heavens' is the 10 virgins, the 'kingdom of heaven'. 5 wise, 5 foolish.

In verse 11 above, some people have died in this fight ('they conquered Satan by their testimony'), which is why we had Dan 8:10 It grew great, even to the host of heaven. And some of the host and some of the stars it threw down to the ground and trampled on them.

the stars were cast to the ground.

so here in the 6th seal,
Rev 6
12 When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood, 13 and the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale.

same as Rev 8, at the 4th Trumpet
12 The fourth angel blew his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, and a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of their light might be darkened, and a third of the day might be kept from shining, and likewise a third of the night.​
so, there are 'stars' being martyred at the 6th seal & stars being martyred at the 4th Trumpet. I think the simplest description would be: the stars at the 6th seal are 'falling'/ being killed at the start of the 1335 days (Dec 21, 2020) all through 45 days until Trumpets 1-4 at Feb 4, 2021. The stars 'falling' on Feb 4, 2021 would be a different place? My guess is that the 'sacrifices' (ie prayers) are removed from the Vatican 1st, then this leads to them (animal sacrifices in a temple?) being cut off in Jerusalem 45 days later. Or vice versa.

5 months later (aka the 5th Trumpet), then the sanctuary is trampled (same as 6th Trumpet/ 2nd woe/ Revelation 11's inner court surrounded) for 1143 days. (1143 + 147 = 1290. 45 days earlier starts the 1335 days. (note about Rev 11: the 2 witnesses testify for 1260 days, the inner court is surrounded for 1143 days. At the end of the trampling of the inner court/ sanctuary, then a new holy place is to be anointed starting the final 70 weeks to 'finish the transgression'. Basically the difference equals out in this manner: 1260 days + the 'year of recompense' = 1143 + 69 weeks. July 2, 2021 + 1260 days = Dec 13, 2024. July 2, 2021 + 1143 = Aug 17, 2024. Aug 17, 2024 + 69 weeks = Dec 13, 2025 start of Hanukah. Dec 13, 2024 to Dec 13, 2025 = year of recompense. the 77th anniversary of Israel, dusk May 13, 2025 + 7 months of clean-up of Gog corpses = Dec 13, 2025.
 

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That reminds one of the Heaven's Gate cult. Maybe a dry-run for something bigger.
As is the norm, military service (like Hubbard) and psychiatry feature in the cult's back story.

What's interesting though, is that common to cults born in the 60s and 70s, they either originated in or moved and set up shop in California. I guess, when the unseen Pied Piper summoned the soon-to-be legendary
rock stars to Laurel Canyon, the likes of Jim Jones and Applewhite couldn't resist the call. How else can it be explained?

"[Neil Young] He told an interviewer that he couldn’t really say why he headed out to LA circa 1966; he and others “were just going like Lemmings.”

We can't deny the PTB aren't sitting still and haven't weaponised eschatology.

I just came across something about Ra El (Raelians, similar to Heavens Gate ) in the news but forgot where I saw it or what it said. Point being they are still around, and likely to play a part in the alien scheme. http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2017/08/23/2003677005
"Wang Min-ju believes that through the ritual her DNA is now stored in a giant Elohim computer orbiting the Earth. Wang says recent data provided by the aliens show that humans are on a surefire path to self-destruction, with only a 0.5 percent chance of avoiding this fate. If it does happen, the Elohim will judge a person’s behavior in their past life from the DNA, and give the worthy ones a chance to be resurrected through cloning technologies on their planet, a Utopian world where everything is taken care of by robots and nobody has to work."​
back to the CIA aspect. In the latter days, Revelation talks about the 'pharmakia' (Greek word for 'drugs for sorcery') used by the whore of Babylon
Rev 18:23​
and the light of a lamp​
will shine in you no more,​
and the voice of bridegroom and bride​
will be heard in you no more,​
for your merchants were the great ones of the earth,
and all nations were deceived by your sorcery.
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints,​
and of all who have been slain on earth.”​

that word 'sorcery' is actually the Greek word 'pharmakia' (drugs for sorcery) (our word for pharmacy is derived from 'pharmakia')

so, when there are news items about the CIA surreptitiously testing out hallucinogens on people, I think it is important to point it out
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7415082/French-bread-spiked-with-LSD-in-CIA-experiment.html
French bread spiked with LSD in CIA experiment

also, Operation Midnight Climax, MKULTRA etc


this is just my opinion, but it seems reasonable to assume the CIA was testing their 'pharmakia' in action at Jonestown, then murdered them to cover up the experiment.

to bring it around to the CIA infiltrating the churches, when we look at the drug effects of say, Ketamine, which I have heard Ketamine explicitly mentioned in 1 or 2 movies, it is said to cause 'out of body experiences'. Which to the unsuspecting church-goer would appear to them as... being 'raptured'. Also, meth users report seeing 'shadow people', so one could play that as 'interdimensional aliens' that are destroying the world, and simultaneously trying to 'rapture' them 'into their UFO's'.

So, have some flashing lights in the sky, show CGI monsters, UFOs on TV, and dose them with a drug cocktail of God knows what, people seeing 'shadow people' and feeling like they are going out of their bodies ('raptured'), that's a recipe for some major social changes.
 

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these people are not getting 'whisked away' to heaven

you have to take this in context of what Matt 24 & 25 are saying (there are no chapter breaks in the original writing, chapter breaks are added for expediency's sake)

Matt 24:15-28 is talking about the abomination of desolation & great tribulation occurring.

then
29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.​


[this is the 6th seal we are at. Compare with Rev 6:12-17 (the 6th seal) (imo, the great tribulation begins Dec 21, 2020, then 45 days later is this 'day of the Lord' that cuts short the 'great tribulation' (Matt 24:21-22) / start of the 7 trumpets/ day of the Lord)


30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man,​


[Feb 11, 2021 cross formation star sign]


and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

'Angels' in verse 31 in Greek is 'messengers'. The dead in Christ are 'gathered' and resurrected - in heaven (the 'great multitude' in Revelation 7 that is 'coming out of the 'great tribulation'. The living Christians are 'gathered' and metaphorically resurrected (see Ezekiel 37:1-14) - gathered on earth by the messengers/ 2 witnesses (remember that the gospel of the kingdom of heaven will be preached (Matt 24:14). They didn't go anywhere. Let's keep reading

32 “From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near. 33 So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates. 34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.​


36 “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. 37 For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark,​


39 and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left. 42 Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.


45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom his master has set over his household, to give them their food at the proper time? 46 Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes. 47 Truly, I say to you, he will set him over all his possessions. 48 But if that wicked servant says to himself, ‘My master is delayed,’ 49 and begins to beat his fellow servants and eats and drinks with drunkards, 50 the master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know 51 and will cut him in pieces and put him with the hypocrites. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.​

continuation from Matt 25 (note the red highlight of being awake in both verse above & below)

Then the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish, and five were wise. 3 For when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with them, 4 but the wise took flasks of oil with their lamps.​


5 As the bridegroom was delayed, they all became drowsy and slept. 6 But at midnight there was a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Come out to meet him.’ 7 Then all those virgins rose and trimmed their lamps. 8 And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’ 9 But the wise answered, saying, ‘Since there will not be enough for us and for you, go rather to the dealers and buy for yourselves.’ 10 And while they were going to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast, and the door was shut. 11 Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, lord, open to us.’ 12 But he answered, ‘Truly, I say to you, I do not know you.’ 13 Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.

It literally states that the 'kingdom of heaven' that has begun at the 'day of the Lord' (the 'day that cut short the great tribulation) and that Jesus 'has been delayed'. (Matt 25:5) The wise virgins are the people who are 'taken', going back to your verse 40, 2 in the field, 1 taken etc.

The thing that probably seems strange here to people is that the 'day of the Lord' has begun (it cut short the 'great tribulation') but Jesus is not ruling the world! There is no 'whisked away' rapture - people have to put in the spiritual readiness (have oil) and then after Jesus is not 'delayed' anymore, then these wise virgins are taken into the kingdom of heaven (on earth). (this occurs at the 'come up here' of Revelation 11, after the 2 witnesses have testified for 1260 days / after the 2nd woe. As I have posited elsewhere, Feb 4, 2021 starts the 'day of the Lord', 5 months later (aka the 5th Trumpet's 5 months) would be July 2, 2021 (solar calendar July 4, 2021 breaking the covenant in the middle of the 70 '7's/ 245 years) add 1260 days to get to Dec 13, 2024, which starts the year of recompense, 5 months after this is the 77th solar anniversary of Israel add 7 months cleanup of Gog to finish out the year at Dec 13, 2025 start of Hanukah.)

the fact of the matter is, the great tribulation occurs, then the 'antichrist' rules:

Matt 24
21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. 22 And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. 23 Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.​

see, it says that the great tribulation is cut short, then false christs & prophets arise. These false christs & prophets are 'leading astray' the 'kingdom of heaven' (which Matt 25 just defined as the 10 virgins). the 5 foolish virgins comprise the whore of Babylon who rules the 7 headed beast with 10 horns. (Rev 17, 18)

Again, the people that you said were 'whisked away', were not whisked away, they were the 5 wise virgins who had to wait until 'Jesus was not delayed anymore' when He says to 'come up here' (see Matt 22's parable of the wedding feast https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22&version=ESV this explains 'come up here' with being humble - the wise virgins are humble and have oil because of this. this is what is occurring at the end of the 2nd woe

But one last, more concise point:
39 and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left. 42 Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

Here Jesus is comparing himself to a thief. Where else does Jesus compare himself to a thief?
Matt 12

22Then a demon-oppressed man who was blind and mute was brought to him, and he healed him, so that the man spoke and saw.23And all the people were amazed, and said, “Can this be the Son of David?”24But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this man casts out demons.”​


25Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand.26And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?​


27And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges.28But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.​


29 Or how can someone enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? Then indeed he may plunder his house.


30 Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.


31Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.32And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.​

hopefully, you can see that Jesus is saying the exact same thing in Matt 24 as in Matt 12 above: He is the 'thief' that is 'plundering' the 'strong man's house'.

that word 'plunder' is the Greek word 'harpazo' which means ' to seize/ snatch away / plunder'.

It is this exact word that 'whisked away' rapture promoters use to 'show' allegedly that Jesus will magically 'whisk' them away: Jesus will 'harpazo' / snatch away 'only the real believers, if you don't really really really believe, then you won't get 'snatched away'.

But that word 'harpazo' is Jesus saying that he will 'seize' people - the messengers/ angels will gather people that have come out of Babylon.
I wanted to fix something in the above post, where I talked about the 'come up here' at the end of the 2nd woe/ Rev 11. I put Matt 22, but I meant to put Luke 14 which is a reference to Proverbs 25
2 It is the glory of God to conceal things,
but the glory of kings is to search things out.
3 As the heavens for height, and the earth for depth,
so the heart of kings is unsearchable.
4 Take away the dross from the silver,
and the smith has material for a vessel;
5 take away the wicked from the presence of the king,
and his throne will be established in righteousness.
[talking about the starting of the kingdom of heaven over all the world at the 7th Trumpet]​

6 Do not put yourself forward in the king’s presence
or stand in the place of the great,
7 for it is better to be told, “Come up here,”
than to be put lower in the presence of a noble.
compare with Rev 11

11 But after the three and a half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. 12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.

heaven here is the kingdom of heaven (on earth, which was defined as the 10 virgins) and the 2 witnesses are glorified by Jesus in the kingdom of heaven on earth.
 

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That reminds one of the Heaven's Gate cult. Maybe a dry-run for something bigger.
As is the norm, military service (like Hubbard) and psychiatry feature in the cult's back story.

What's interesting though, is that common to cults born in the 60s and 70s, they either originated in or moved and set up shop in California. I guess, when the unseen Pied Piper summoned the soon-to-be legendary
rock stars to Laurel Canyon, the likes of Jim Jones and Applewhite couldn't resist the call. How else can it be explained?

"[Neil Young] He told an interviewer that he couldn’t really say why he headed out to LA circa 1966; he and others “were just going like Lemmings.”

We can't deny the PTB aren't sitting still and haven't weaponised eschatology.

Are you seriously comparing pre-tribbers to the Heaven's Gate cult and Jim Jones? Seriously?
 

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"The Fig Tree" = The Jews (symbolically) and if we look at what has happened in the world, then we can see that "their branch became tender and put out its leaves" (i.e. the Fig Tree began to awaken from its withered state and began to grow again) in 1948 (with the formation and setting up of the Jewish State in Israel, in that year). So.. going by that, we can know that "Summer" is now near.
 
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Scientology & the CIA.

Jim Jones; A CIA Operative



Jesus, CEO

"It would be dishonest to ignore the fact that the globalist agenda is very
busy infiltrating the church, Evangelical leaders, seminaries, denominations and churches.
This pervasive lack of understanding among some in Christian leadership – that they are being used – reflects a dangerous ignorance and lack of understanding about who are the very powerful groups and individuals who control our world. To dismiss this as a
conspiracy theory in light of the enormous body of credible documentation from mainstream and accurate sources borders on idiocy."

It would also be naive of one, to not think that some of the biggest names in Protestantism; whose books make it to bestseller lists, maintain a cozy relationship with the political establishment, aren't
outfitted with intelligence agencies or aren't simply bought to sell agendas to their flock . Richard Land (Southern Baptist leader) and Pat Robertson are rumored CFR members. Rick Warren of SaddleBack megachurch is a member aswell.
No wonder prophetic interpretation, from some of these people, so often mirrors geopolitics and is the mainstream.
Freemasonry, the CIA and the “Christian” churches all seem to be interconnected. I think it’s safe to say that any mega church that gets MSM exposure is fraudulent. While it’s easy to perceive that Joel Olsteen is nothing more than a “Feel good” ministry and preaches nothing about redemption, he’s just one in the pack of wolves dressed in sheep’s clothing and does nothing more than praise the One World Religion. I surmise that’ll happen when you have Masonic connections (source)? Interestingly, with the help of Oprah Winfrey’s network, there are many who preach a lot of materialistic rhetoric. Let's not forget that Oprah's Winfrey's Network acronym backwards is NWO:

OXYGEN NETWORK’S ‘PREACHERS OF L.A.’: FALSE PROPHETS OF BLASPHEMY

Keeping with the teachings of Norman Vincent Peale, some of these televangelists were aware of the MK Ultra programming in some of these churches in the early years. Apparently, a 33 degree Mason, Robert Schuller, the minister of the Crystal Cathedral (Hour of Power) knew about the Luciferian initiations at Unity School in Kansas City but simply didn’t care (source).

Reading your article on Jonestown, I watched a documentary on it, and on the sidebar, YT had a David Koresh documentary. There seems to be parallel events in both as the mass murders were carried out by the CIA (source).

Your Jesus, Ceo article mentions Crefto Dollar, who’s a chief pastor of World Changers Church International in Georgia. I wanted to see what I could find out about him and came across this:



His methods of worshiping God are perplexing to say the least.
 
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Sure there are wolves in sheep's clothing posing as pastors.

Any example of their prophetic interpretation ?
There are many pastors who are wolves in sheeps clothing especially in Africa.There are even videos of these pastors claiming to heal people with illinesses but they are doing this for money.They are rich AF.
 
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Freemasonry, the CIA and the “Christian” churches all seem to be interconnected. I think it’s safe to say that any mega church that gets MSM exposure is fraudulent. While it’s easy to perceive that Joel Olsteen is nothing more than a “Feel good” ministry and preaches nothing about redemption, he’s just one in the pack of wolves dressed in sheep’s clothing and does nothing more than praise the One World Religion. I surmise that’ll happen when you have Masonic connections (source)? Interestingly, with the help of Oprah Winfrey’s network, there are many who preach a lot of materialistic rhetoric. Let's not forget that Oprah's Winfrey's Network acronym backwards is NWO:

OXYGEN NETWORK’S ‘PREACHERS OF L.A.’: FALSE PROPHETS OF BLASPHEMY

Keeping with the teachings of Norman Vincent Peale, some of these televangelists were aware of the MK Ultra programming in some of these churches in the early years. Apparently, a 33 degree Mason, Robert Schuller, the minister of the Crystal Cathedral (Hour of Power) knew about the Luciferian initiations at Unity School in Kansas City but simply didn’t care (source).

Reading your article on Jonestown, I watched a documentary on it, and on the sidebar, YT had a David Koresh documentary. There seems to be parallel events in both as the mass murders were carried out by the CIA (source).

Your Jesus, Ceo article mentions Crefto Dollar, who’s a chief pastor of World Changers Church International in Georgia. I wanted to see what I could find out about him and came across this:



His methods of worshiping God are perplexing to say the least.
This is why most people doubt Christianity because it’s now a money making scheme.This is why I do not go to church anymore.You don’t receive any blessings but instead you are paying for people to live in luxury.

I have a neighbor who is a pastor and has one of the biggest churches in South Africa.The amount of money that people donate to his church is ridiculously high.He renovated his home a few years ago and bought a car For himself and his wife.NOTE:These people are unemployed but they are filthy rich thanks to the donations at church.Im done!!
 
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