The Cat Is Out The Bag/Exit Stage Clintons?

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The campaign of Tulsi Gabbard has had good traction since its inception. The problem is people decide who is electable based on optics, not what's real. As far as Tulsi is concerned, she lines up perfectly with most liberal issues. Plus she's a woman who isn't white, but all of that doesn't create a good enough optical illusion.

I think the two-party system has just gotten used to their candidates being fake and compromised. Like the "establishment" expects a certain level of deceit and corruption. So outsider candidates will always be viewed with distrust or outright contempt. Of course, that's totally wrong, but American citizens don't really demand better.

If there's one glaring trait that needs to be pointed out with Americans, it's that we are pro-level at looking the other way. And there is no real rhyme or reason to why or when we decide it's time to act blind. The Democratic presidential primary is going to be a prime example of that. The establishment has decided on the candidate(s) they want before a vote has even been cast.
 






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The campaign of Tulsi Gabbard has had good traction since its inception. The problem is people decide who is electable based on optics, not what's real. As far as Tulsi is concerned, she lines up perfectly with most liberal issues. Plus she's a woman who isn't white, but all of that doesn't create a good enough optical illusion.

I think the two-party system has just gotten used to their candidates being fake and compromised. Like the "establishment" expects a certain level of deceit and corruption. So outsider candidates will always be viewed with distrust or outright contempt. Of course, that's totally wrong, but American citizens don't really demand better.

If there's one glaring trait that needs to be pointed out with Americans, it's that we are pro-level at looking the other way. And there is no real rhyme or reason to why or when we decide it's time to act blind. The Democratic presidential primary is going to be a prime example of that. The establishment has decided on the candidate(s) they want before a vote has even been cast.
Shes the only candidate, from either side that I take seriously. Yang has good ideas and seems like a very capable individual, but Id prefer to see him in a cabinet position first. Not that my opinion matters though lol
 






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The campaign of Tulsi Gabbard has had good traction since its inception. The problem is people decide who is electable based on optics, not what's real. As far as Tulsi is concerned, she lines up perfectly with most liberal issues. Plus she's a woman who isn't white, but all of that doesn't create a good enough optical illusion.

I think the two-party system has just gotten used to their candidates being fake and compromised. Like the "establishment" expects a certain level of deceit and corruption. So outsider candidates will always be viewed with distrust or outright contempt. Of course, that's totally wrong, but American citizens don't really demand better.

If there's one glaring trait that needs to be pointed out with Americans, it's that we are pro-level at looking the other way. And there is no real rhyme or reason to why or when we decide it's time to act blind. The Democratic presidential primary is going to be a prime example of that. The establishment has decided on the candidate(s) they want before a vote has even been cast.
"If there's one glaring trait that needs to be pointed out with Americans, it's that we are pro-level at looking the other way. And there is no real rhyme or reason to why or when we decide it's time to act blind. The Democratic presidential primary is going to be a prime example of that. The establishment has decided on the candidate(s) they want before a vote has even been cast."
Excellent post!
 






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"If there's one glaring trait that needs to be pointed out with Americans, it's that we are pro-level at looking the other way. And there is no real rhyme or reason to why or when we decide it's time to act blind. The Democratic presidential primary is going to be a prime example of that. The establishment has decided on the candidate(s) they want before a vote has even been cast."
Excellent post!
Thanks, I felt pretty good about that one.

The fix is in (isn't it always?) but there's a light at the end of that tunnel. I know some people who can totally rig it in Tulsi Gabbard's favor (telepathy weapon). I'm just not sure how far they are willing to go with it. Also, they don't take orders from me.

I probably can't give her the nomination by myself, and I'm not going to drag anyone into this fight. The people I'm referring to know the fight is there if they want to take it. They also know the plan I've devised (it's classified). I will say though my plan is perfectly balanced, and fair to all parties involved. But it will look like one of the most chaotic events in modern history.
 






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sorry tulsi is not electable - she is polling very low and seems to have little support. and has flip flopped endlessly and seems to not know what she stands for.
- Shes polling higher than most of the candidates who received more speaking time than her at the debate.
- The most googled/twitter trending candidate after the debate.... again.
- Grassroots fundraising on par or surpassing most other candidates in the Democratic field.
- I haven't noticed much in the way of flip-flops but feel free to point out any of Gabbard's inconsistencies here.
- Shes correct on most issues. Her opponents cant challenge the substance of her positions, so they resort to lies and smears.
- Shes the only Dem candidate (outside of possibly Andrew Yang) with actual crossover appeal to independent/inactive/Republican voters........
 






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- Shes polling higher than most of the candidates who received more speaking time than her at the debate.
- The most googled/twitter trending candidate after the debate.... again.
- Grassroots fundraising on par or surpassing most other candidates in the Democratic field.
- I haven't noticed much in the way of flip-flops but feel free to point out any of Gabbard's inconsistencies here.
- Shes correct on most issues. Her opponents cant challenge the substance of her positions, so they resort to lies and smears.
- Shes the only Dem candidate (outside of possibly Andrew Yang) with actual crossover appeal to independent/inactive/Republican voters........
did a quick search and these came up

Tulsi Gabbard FLIP FLOPS on impeachment – The Right Scoop

https://therightscoop.com/tulsi-gabbard-flip-flops-on-impeachment/
Anonymous View
Sep 27, 2019 ... 2020 Democratic contender Rep. Tulsi Gabbard backed an impeachment inquiry for President Trump on Friday, stating that her review of the ...
Tulsi Gabbard's Puerto Rico Flip Flop - YouTube

Anonymous View
Jul 22, 2019 ... Become a TYT member at: http://tyt.com/EMMA Rebel HQ's Emma Vigeland (https://Twitter.com/EmmaVigeland) breaks down Rep. Tulsi ...
Tulsi Gabbard Flip-Flops on Medicare For All - YouTube

Anonymous View
Sep 27, 2019 ... Interview Highlights On “Medicare for All” “Yes I support [it]. I prefer to call it 'Medicare Choice,' where we are ensuring quality health care for all ...
Tulsi Gabbard may be anti-Hillary Clinton, but she's still far-left fringe ...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/21/tulsi-gabbard-may-be-anti-hillary-clinton-shes-sti/
Anonymous View
Oct 21, 2019 ... Democratic candidate for president Tulsi Gabbard, in a widely watched ... She's a progressive who has some serious flip-flops on policy in her ...
Why you shouldn't care when a presidential candidate flip-flops ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/21/why-you-shouldnt-care-when-presidential-candidate-flip-flops/
Anonymous View
Jan 21, 2019 ... Why you shouldn't care when a presidential candidate flip-flops .... Tulsi Gabbard has already released a video apologizing for her previous ...
Tulsi Gabbard Is Not Your Friend - Jacobin

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/05/tulsi-gabbard-president-sanders-democratic-party
Anonymous View
May 26, 2017 ... Hawaii representative Tulsi Gabbard is announced at the 2016 ..... her on everything,” and that “she would fit perfectly” in the administration ...
Flip-Flop Tulsi Gabbard reverses position, decides to climb on ...

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/24216/Flip-Flop-Tulsi-Gabbard-reverses-position-decides-to-climb-on-Impeachment-bandwagon.aspx
Anonymous View
Sep 27, 2019 ... Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard says people who read the declassified transcript of President Trump's call with Ukraine's President Zelensky ...
Tulsi Gabbard: how a progressive rising star is a paradox for the left ...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/10/tulsi-gabbard-how-a-progressive-rising-star-is-a-paradox-for-the-left
Anonymous View
Aug 10, 2018 ... The Hawaii congresswoman is backed by Bernie Sanders, but her controversial opinions have some progressives miffed.
Tulsi Gabbard Flip Flops on $15 Minimum Wage, Pretends to Have ...

https://medium.com/@pplswar/tulsi-gabbard-flip-flops-on-15-minimum-wage-pretends-to-have-been-leading-on-the-issue-all-along-97e1fe36e3cb
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May 26, 2017 ... Just as we predicted yesterday, Tulsi Gabbard has abandoned he
 






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did a quick search and these came up

Tulsi Gabbard FLIP FLOPS on impeachment – The Right Scoop

https://therightscoop.com/tulsi-gabbard-flip-flops-on-impeachment/
Anonymous View
Sep 27, 2019 ... 2020 Democratic contender Rep. Tulsi Gabbard backed an impeachment inquiry for President Trump on Friday, stating that her review of the ...
Tulsi Gabbard's Puerto Rico Flip Flop - YouTube

Anonymous View
Jul 22, 2019 ... Become a TYT member at: http://tyt.com/EMMA Rebel HQ's Emma Vigeland (https://Twitter.com/EmmaVigeland) breaks down Rep. Tulsi ...
Tulsi Gabbard Flip-Flops on Medicare For All - YouTube

Anonymous View
Sep 27, 2019 ... Interview Highlights On “Medicare for All” “Yes I support [it]. I prefer to call it 'Medicare Choice,' where we are ensuring quality health care for all ...
Tulsi Gabbard may be anti-Hillary Clinton, but she's still far-left fringe ...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/21/tulsi-gabbard-may-be-anti-hillary-clinton-shes-sti/
Anonymous View
Oct 21, 2019 ... Democratic candidate for president Tulsi Gabbard, in a widely watched ... She's a progressive who has some serious flip-flops on policy in her ...
Why you shouldn't care when a presidential candidate flip-flops ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/21/why-you-shouldnt-care-when-presidential-candidate-flip-flops/
Anonymous View
Jan 21, 2019 ... Why you shouldn't care when a presidential candidate flip-flops .... Tulsi Gabbard has already released a video apologizing for her previous ...
Tulsi Gabbard Is Not Your Friend - Jacobin

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/05/tulsi-gabbard-president-sanders-democratic-party
Anonymous View
May 26, 2017 ... Hawaii representative Tulsi Gabbard is announced at the 2016 ..... her on everything,” and that “she would fit perfectly” in the administration ...
Flip-Flop Tulsi Gabbard reverses position, decides to climb on ...

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/24216/Flip-Flop-Tulsi-Gabbard-reverses-position-decides-to-climb-on-Impeachment-bandwagon.aspx
Anonymous View
Sep 27, 2019 ... Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard says people who read the declassified transcript of President Trump's call with Ukraine's President Zelensky ...
Tulsi Gabbard: how a progressive rising star is a paradox for the left ...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/10/tulsi-gabbard-how-a-progressive-rising-star-is-a-paradox-for-the-left
Anonymous View
Aug 10, 2018 ... The Hawaii congresswoman is backed by Bernie Sanders, but her controversial opinions have some progressives miffed.
Tulsi Gabbard Flip Flops on $15 Minimum Wage, Pretends to Have ...

https://medium.com/@pplswar/tulsi-gabbard-flip-flops-on-15-minimum-wage-pretends-to-have-been-leading-on-the-issue-all-along-97e1fe36e3cb
Anonymous View
May 26, 2017 ... Just as we predicted yesterday, Tulsi Gabbard has abandoned he
ok I appreciate you providing the basis for your claims. Im about to get lunch, but I will be checking these out afterwards. Again, thank you for posting links instead of just opinions. Respect.
 






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did a quick search and these came up

Tulsi Gabbard FLIP FLOPS on impeachment – The Right Scoop

https://therightscoop.com/tulsi-gabbard-flip-flops-on-impeachment/
Anonymous View
Sep 27, 2019 ... 2020 Democratic contender Rep. Tulsi Gabbard backed an impeachment inquiry for President Trump on Friday, stating that her review of the ...
Tulsi Gabbard's Puerto Rico Flip Flop - YouTube

Anonymous View
Jul 22, 2019 ... Become a TYT member at: http://tyt.com/EMMA Rebel HQ's Emma Vigeland (https://Twitter.com/EmmaVigeland) breaks down Rep. Tulsi ...
Tulsi Gabbard Flip-Flops on Medicare For All - YouTube

Anonymous View
Sep 27, 2019 ... Interview Highlights On “Medicare for All” “Yes I support [it]. I prefer to call it 'Medicare Choice,' where we are ensuring quality health care for all ...
Tulsi Gabbard may be anti-Hillary Clinton, but she's still far-left fringe ...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/21/tulsi-gabbard-may-be-anti-hillary-clinton-shes-sti/
Anonymous View
Oct 21, 2019 ... Democratic candidate for president Tulsi Gabbard, in a widely watched ... She's a progressive who has some serious flip-flops on policy in her ...
Why you shouldn't care when a presidential candidate flip-flops ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/21/why-you-shouldnt-care-when-presidential-candidate-flip-flops/
Anonymous View
Jan 21, 2019 ... Why you shouldn't care when a presidential candidate flip-flops .... Tulsi Gabbard has already released a video apologizing for her previous ...
Tulsi Gabbard Is Not Your Friend - Jacobin

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/05/tulsi-gabbard-president-sanders-democratic-party
Anonymous View
May 26, 2017 ... Hawaii representative Tulsi Gabbard is announced at the 2016 ..... her on everything,” and that “she would fit perfectly” in the administration ...
Flip-Flop Tulsi Gabbard reverses position, decides to climb on ...

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/24216/Flip-Flop-Tulsi-Gabbard-reverses-position-decides-to-climb-on-Impeachment-bandwagon.aspx
Anonymous View
Sep 27, 2019 ... Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard says people who read the declassified transcript of President Trump's call with Ukraine's President Zelensky ...
Tulsi Gabbard: how a progressive rising star is a paradox for the left ...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/10/tulsi-gabbard-how-a-progressive-rising-star-is-a-paradox-for-the-left
Anonymous View
Aug 10, 2018 ... The Hawaii congresswoman is backed by Bernie Sanders, but her controversial opinions have some progressives miffed.
Tulsi Gabbard Flip Flops on $15 Minimum Wage, Pretends to Have ...

https://medium.com/@pplswar/tulsi-gabbard-flip-flops-on-15-minimum-wage-pretends-to-have-been-leading-on-the-issue-all-along-97e1fe36e3cb
Anonymous View
May 26, 2017 ... Just as we predicted yesterday, Tulsi Gabbard has abandoned he
1. Her position on the impeachment. I think she rightly sees the proceedings for what they are and honestly doesn't support the action. Not because Trump aint guilty of various crimes, shes just more focused on reality than the Democratic parties fantasyland. So I think the public uproar and new developments are probably what gave her the change of position on the topic.

2. Emma Vigeland is compromised to the extreme on the subject of Gabbard's candidacy. Shes been so dishonest so often regarding Gabbard that even her own, faux-liberal co-horts have called her out on it. Her "report" here is all over the place.

3. As far as I can tell, her MC4A stance has been fairly consistent. Her goals remain the same, even if there are alterations to her plan to get us there.

I can continue to address your posts point-by-point but what Im getting from them is similar to the narrative the MSM has already attempted to assign towards candidate Gabbart. That shes not a real democrat because her positions differ so drastically from the parties establishment wing and donor-class. Shes certainly does not fit into the mold of a "typical" Democratic party, establishment candidate and while the establishment themselves may not appreciate her differences with the standard party line, that is actually a characteristic many of us find appealing.

Edit: After some reflection, I think people could call her change of stance regarding gay marriage as a flip flop. I dont see it that way exactly, but I can also see how an opposing viewpoint could regard the situation as such.......
 






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- Shes polling higher than most of the candidates who received more speaking time than her at the debate.
- The most googled/twitter trending candidate after the debate.... again.
- Grassroots fundraising on par or surpassing most other candidates in the Democratic field.
- I haven't noticed much in the way of flip-flops but feel free to point out any of Gabbard's inconsistencies here.
- Shes correct on most issues. Her opponents cant challenge the substance of her positions, so they resort to lies and smears.
- Shes the only Dem candidate (outside of possibly Andrew Yang) with actual crossover appeal to independent/inactive/Republican voters........

https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch-yang-squirts-whipped-cream-into-mouths-of-kneeling-men-campaign-manager-desperately-tries-to-stop-him
WATCH: Yang Squirts Whipped Cream Into Mouths Of Kneeling Men, Campaign Manager Desperately Tries To Stop Him
By Amanda Prestigiacomo
DECEMBER 4TH, 2019

...excerpt....
As shown in the video below, Mr. Yang squirts the cream into one kneeling young man’s mouth and then celebrates by shaking the bottle and joking, “That’s a full-service presidential candidate!” And he wasn’t done there, to the obvious displeasure of who appears to be the candidate’s campaign manager Zach Graumann. The businessman then squirts more cream into another kneeling male supporter’s mouth before Graumann has had enough and steps in to move the candidate along.
...yeah... I would call that an "uncomfortable" interaction....:oops::rolleyes:o_O:eek::D:p
 






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https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch-yang-squirts-whipped-cream-into-mouths-of-kneeling-men-campaign-manager-desperately-tries-to-stop-him
WATCH: Yang Squirts Whipped Cream Into Mouths Of Kneeling Men, Campaign Manager Desperately Tries To Stop Him
By Amanda Prestigiacomo
DECEMBER 4TH, 2019

...excerpt....
As shown in the video below, Mr. Yang squirts the cream into one kneeling young man’s mouth and then celebrates by shaking the bottle and joking, “That’s a full-service presidential candidate!” And he wasn’t done there, to the obvious displeasure of who appears to be the candidate’s campaign manager Zach Graumann. The businessman then squirts more cream into another kneeling male supporter’s mouth before Graumann has had enough and steps in to move the candidate along.
...yeah... I would call that an "uncomfortable" interaction....:oops::rolleyes:o_O:eek::D:p
What does this have to do with the Clinton/DNC-wing trying to sabotage Gabbard's campaign while propping Killary up for a 2020 run?
 






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1. Her position on the impeachment. I think she rightly sees the proceedings for what they are and honestly doesn't support the action. Not because Trump aint guilty of various crimes, shes just more focused on reality than the Democratic parties fantasyland. So I think the public uproar and new developments are probably what gave her the change of position on the topic.

2. Emma Vigeland is compromised to the extreme on the subject of Gabbard's candidacy. Shes been so dishonest so often regarding Gabbard that even her own, faux-liberal co-horts have called her out on it. Her "report" here is all over the place.

3. As far as I can tell, her MC4A stance has been fairly consistent. Her goals remain the same, even if there are alterations to her plan to get us there.

I can continue to address your posts point-by-point but what Im getting from them is similar to the narrative the MSM has already attempted to assign towards candidate Gabbart. That shes not a real democrat because her positions differ so drastically from the parties establishment wing and donor-class. Shes certainly does not fit into the mold of a "typical" Democratic party, establishment candidate and while the establishment themselves may not appreciate her differences with the standard party line, that is actually a characteristic many of us find appealing.

Edit: After some reflection, I think people could call her change of stance regarding gay marriage as a flip flop. I dont see it that way exactly, but I can also see how an opposing viewpoint could regard the situation as such.......
thanks for response - hmmm i am just not hearing support for her from really anyone in person or around ... harris dropping out was surprising - i am wondering if she made a deal with biden to be his early before primary vp pick.... or AG...

I am just not sure Tulsi can raise the money or get traction in early states ...
 






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thanks for response - hmmm i am just not hearing support for her from really anyone in person or around ... harris dropping out was surprising - i am wondering if she made a deal with biden to be his early before primary vp pick.... or AG...

I am just not sure Tulsi can raise the money or get traction in early states ...
I agree that the MSM had been very effective at minimizing the Gabbard campaign. Not so many people even knew she was a candidate until Killary went after her. That was a big mistake on tptb's part because shes picked up a lot of momentum since those deranged attacks. I think enough people are also aware that somethings wrong with the way the MSM suddenly kicked into high gear to attack Gabbard. They might not be at the VC poster-level of wokeness, but many can still see the issues at play here, even if they cant put their finger on exactly what their concern with the situation is at the moment.

I think if she can hang in until Iowa and the other early caucus/primary states get under way officially, shes got a shot. Shes certainty waking/shaking people up as well as shifting the conversation to places it needs to go, but likely wouldn't without her presence.
 






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