The Cat Is Out The Bag/Exit Stage Clintons?

Lisa

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Great! And its only taken 6 off-topic posts of yours to establish that you didn't actually want to engage in discussion regarding your contention of HRC's possibly candidacy lol

No need to respond Lisa, as that would just further cement your actions of trying to distract from peoples threads here!
If you’re gonna keep talking to me here...I have to post at least one more time. Perhaps you should keep your posts on topic for now on?
 






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If you’re gonna keep talking to me here...I have to post at least one more time. Perhaps you should keep your posts on topic for now on?
Your contention regarding a potential Hillary Clinton candidacy has been addressed.
 






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I agree. And it also appears the DNC and their MSM cohorts are openly promoting/utilizing the debates as their premier tool for narrowing the field of contestants and therefore, anointing their "safe" candidates. These debates are supposed to be inclusive events which raise each candidates profile both personally as well as policy-wise...... instead they have become the main avenue of elimination for the Clinton & Wasserman-Schultz wing of the party and their machine.
Exactly. These debates are shit, plain and simple. The candidates with the most name recognition (privilege) have a clear advantage, and that should be balanced out by the liberal media. Of course, we don't see that happening. Instead, we see blatant omissions of the lesser-known candidates or open hostility.

If anyone was a Russian asset it was Hillary Clinton and the media lapdogs. Yes, they are the biggest "useful idiots" to the Russian agenda. But let's try to explore what that even means. Now from what I understand, Russian media loves to portray American politics as corrupt. That fact seems to represent their own propaganda machine against Russian citizens, not Americans.

I will conclude with a rhetorical question. Why is the U.S media taking their cues from Russia? Because it seems to me that the media is playing right into the hands of Russian intelligence agencies.
 






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....hmmmm.... here's a rather curious 'take' on the TG situation... one I would certainly never have thought-up on my own.... so I'm throwing it out there for the group to review and weigh-in upon.....
...not sure about the 'Tulsi - 3rd Party' theory discussed here.... but certainly, Clinton and Podesta are two extraordinarily cunning individuals.... and it would seem that they are oh-so-desperate to keep their 'activities' of the past well-hidden, so I would not put anything past them.... the 'worst' that I could dream up would be mere child's-play for those two....

https://www.waynedupree.com/tulsi-gabbard-john-podesta/

2016 Wikileaks Email Resurfaces Revealing John Podesta Was Mastermind Behind Tulsi Gabbard’s Congressional Win

While many people love to bash Hillary and are so tired of the “Russia” insanity, others are cautioning the right not to get too “excited” defending Tulsi – especially those people on the right who are painting her as a “moderate” Democrat.

Written by Missy Crane · 17 hours ago

Democrat 2020 hopeful Tulsi Gabbard was thrust into the national spotlight, despite only being at 1.2% in the polls, thanks to Hillary Clinton, who attacked her by claiming she’s a “Russian asset.”

As soon as the news broke, the right-wing media and many Trump supporters jumped to Tulsi’s defense and slammed Hillary.

In no time flat, Tulsi was appearing on Fox News, and fundraising off of Hillary’s nasty comments.

Suddenly Tulsi went from “nobody” to “somebody.”

But why?

The strange move left many people wondering why Hillary called out a woman who doesn’t even have a snowball’s chance in hell of winning the nomination?

One interesting theory emerged, claiming that perhaps Dems want to run the popular “independent-minded” Tulsi as a 3rd party candidate to try and siphon swing votes from Trump.

You can read that theory here.

While many people love to bash Hillary and are so tired of the “Russia” insanity, others are cautioning the right not to get too “excited” defending Tulsi – especially those people on the right who are painting her as a “moderate” Democrat.

Yes, compared to the radicals like AOC and Elizabeth Warren, Tulsi seems like an old-school moderate Democrat. And many independents and folks on the right appreciate her anti-war stance and of course, respect her service to her country. But it’s important to remember the enemy we’re up against, and remember that they may take many forms and wear many costumes. So, while it’s fine to defend someone from a smear attack, we as conservatives need to know when to say “when” and back off.

In other words, sometimes things are happening below the surface that we know nothing about.

Case in point – back in 2016, Wikileaks released a series of emails from the account of Hillary campaign chair John Podesta.

Now, as you probably already know, when you think about “bad guys” on the left, Podesta is a name at the very top of nearly everyone’s list.

So, imagine our surprise (not really) when an old Wikileaks-released email resurfaced, showing Podesta was the “mastermind” behind Tulsi Gabbard’s election win in Hawaii.

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand emailed John Podesta to thank him for his help in getting the “progressive” elected. She also references her uber feminist group called “Off the Sidelines” and how Tulsi embodies the spirit of that movement.



You can read the original Wikileaks email release here.

Be careful, everyone. You don’t want to inadvertently become a tool for the left.

<<<here's the Gillibrand/Podesta email referenced above>>>
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Background on the lead-up to the last Democratic presidential primary debate.......
Tulsi Gabbard's live, on-air response.....
The Democratic Machine in general and Hillary Clinton in specific falling off the rails......
Congresswoman and serving major in the US military Tulsi Gabbard detonates on the corruption of the Democratic party and Hillary Clinton......
The fallout from that massive detonation is just beginning.....
....even though Snopes has 'debunked' this meme as 'False', I don't think anyone who views the Clintons with a critical eye has to reach too far to imagine that it represents a certain 'overarching truth' of where HRC stands on the issue.... besides... I think it's hilarious....
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-noose/
 






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....hmmmm.... here's a rather curious 'take' on the TG situation... one I would certainly never have thought-up on my own.... so I'm throwing it out there for the group to review and weigh-in upon.....
...not sure about the 'Tulsi - 3rd Party' theory discussed here.... but certainly, Clinton and Podesta are two extraordinarily cunning individuals.... and it would seem that they are oh-so-desperate to keep their 'activities' of the past well-hidden, so I would not put anything past them.... the 'worst' that I could dream up would be mere child's-play for those two....

https://www.waynedupree.com/tulsi-gabbard-john-podesta/

2016 Wikileaks Email Resurfaces Revealing John Podesta Was Mastermind Behind Tulsi Gabbard’s Congressional Win

While many people love to bash Hillary and are so tired of the “Russia” insanity, others are cautioning the right not to get too “excited” defending Tulsi – especially those people on the right who are painting her as a “moderate” Democrat.

Written by Missy Crane · 17 hours ago

Democrat 2020 hopeful Tulsi Gabbard was thrust into the national spotlight, despite only being at 1.2% in the polls, thanks to Hillary Clinton, who attacked her by claiming she’s a “Russian asset.”

As soon as the news broke, the right-wing media and many Trump supporters jumped to Tulsi’s defense and slammed Hillary.

In no time flat, Tulsi was appearing on Fox News, and fundraising off of Hillary’s nasty comments.

Suddenly Tulsi went from “nobody” to “somebody.”

But why?

The strange move left many people wondering why Hillary called out a woman who doesn’t even have a snowball’s chance in hell of winning the nomination?

One interesting theory emerged, claiming that perhaps Dems want to run the popular “independent-minded” Tulsi as a 3rd party candidate to try and siphon swing votes from Trump.

You can read that theory here.

While many people love to bash Hillary and are so tired of the “Russia” insanity, others are cautioning the right not to get too “excited” defending Tulsi – especially those people on the right who are painting her as a “moderate” Democrat.

Yes, compared to the radicals like AOC and Elizabeth Warren, Tulsi seems like an old-school moderate Democrat. And many independents and folks on the right appreciate her anti-war stance and of course, respect her service to her country. But it’s important to remember the enemy we’re up against, and remember that they may take many forms and wear many costumes. So, while it’s fine to defend someone from a smear attack, we as conservatives need to know when to say “when” and back off.

In other words, sometimes things are happening below the surface that we know nothing about.

Case in point – back in 2016, Wikileaks released a series of emails from the account of Hillary campaign chair John Podesta.

Now, as you probably already know, when you think about “bad guys” on the left, Podesta is a name at the very top of nearly everyone’s list.

So, imagine our surprise (not really) when an old Wikileaks-released email resurfaced, showing Podesta was the “mastermind” behind Tulsi Gabbard’s election win in Hawaii.

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand emailed John Podesta to thank him for his help in getting the “progressive” elected. She also references her uber feminist group called “Off the Sidelines” and how Tulsi embodies the spirit of that movement.



You can read the original Wikileaks email release here.

Be careful, everyone. You don’t want to inadvertently become a tool for the left.

<<<here's the Gillibrand/Podesta email referenced above>>>
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What I took away from that article is that The democratic establishment was ready to take credit for Gabbard's success when they thought she was a controlled asset, they were more than willing to use her because they thought she fit into their plans. Once they realized she is an independent candidate, she quickly fell out of favor.

I also took away that the author isn't being very honest here and is really reaching to find something negative about Gabbard.
 






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Rumors are fun, but the facts seem to indicate Hillary Clinton and the media are fixing to prop up Elizabeth Warren. Also, I don't think the words Podesta and Mastermind should ever go in the same sentence.

Propping up Warren seems pretty risky though, I remember reading about how Wal Street is terrified of her. But maybe that's where the Clinton camp comes into play. Regardless, the Democrats need a candidate who can reach across the aisle, not reach into corporate pockets.
 






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Gabbard's CFR involvement is directly addressed here as well.....
Pediatrician and former Green party presidential candidate Jill Stein responds to Clinton's accusations.....
Edit: I posted this in another thread, but its valid here as well......
Updated 2020 Clinton Proxy Roster:
Kamala Harris - This Killary/Obama hybrid-upgrade broke down under brief public character scrutiny faster than Dr. Evil's Fembots. Last seen in NorCal on organic, raw goat milk cartons from a Frisco based artisan dairy parroting daily DNC talking points and panhandling on Bay Area corners mumbling "Dudes' gotta go......."
National Harris Campaign staff positions - 12
National positions headed by former Clinton staffers - at least 4
Of her 9 state campaign officials, at least 2 are directly linked to Clinton's failed 2016 presidential bid.

Corey Booker A.K.A. "Smilin' Softshoe" - When you need someone to coon that last vestige of dignity right out of themselves, theres Booker. Ideal for those True-Blue neo-lib voters that still found Obama threatening and problematic.
Whereas Harris had the poor strategy of openly touting some of her Clinton-connections, Booker employed a tactic of obfuscation, attempting to conceal his Clinton proxy status by installing loyalists to her wing of the DNC machine and labeling some as "Coordinators" among other vague references.

Elizabeth Warren A.K.A. "What, me Warren?" - Although this is her first serious run at the Oval Office, when asked to clarify her stances or policies, this master communicator can summon campaign-trail gibberish and jargon on par with any experienced and compromised political hack!
Reporter: "Hey Warren, would it be cool if your VP runs a rouge cell of nepotism so his crack addict, military drop-out son who's in an affair with his dead brothers wife can join the board of directors at an eastern Ukrainian energy concern he has no experience with for 50 Grand a month after daddy collabed w/Neo-Nazis to foment a coup so long as its before he comes back from China w/a billion and a half in investment cash?"
Deputy Warren's bold reply in the face of naked corruption? "Look, Gosh..... y'now? Well, gee... I'd have to go back and check.... I.... I don't remember?"
Warren attempt the ol' Softshoe Shuffle but just like Booker and others, its not only her campaign staff that gives away where shes headed, take a look at their donors as well.
 






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I didn't link that one. That one was "OhHi" coming through in a clutch.

I can't help but chuckle at your assessments of the Democratic establishment candidates though. The DNC and their media cohorts have helmed the train wreck for too long. These are the same people who thought Trump was a joke and helped him get in! So I guess it's no wonder the train is totally off the rails now.

People are still following these DNC jokers too. Yes, people continue to "toe the line" when they would be served much better with "hands-on" a pitchfork. I would personally love to burn them down *if* I didn't think they were destroying themselves. That's the real problem though, so many fools love staring at a train wreck, even as it barrels down on them.

Seriously though, how is it smart to stare at a train wreck? Maybe a more accurate question would be, what happens when the train wants revenge on the engineers?
 






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....not about Clinton.... but relevant to the overall issue... not reported in the MSM, as far as I know...
https://www.scnow.com/news/local/joe-biden-denied-holy-communion-at-florence-church/article_4dfe451b-e181-5cdb-9da1-feae72795f0c.html
Joe Biden denied Holy Communion at Florence church
FLORENCE, S.C. – Former Vice President Joe Biden, a candidate for the Democratic nomination in the 2020 presidential race, was denied Holy Communion on Sunday morning at a Florence church.

Father Robert E. Morey of Saint Anthony Catholic Church confirmed Monday afternoon that he had denied the presidential candidate Holy Communion because of his stance on abortion. Biden, a lifelong Catholic, had attended the church's 9 a.m. Mass.

Communion is one of seven sacraments in the Roman Catholic Church. The others are baptism, reconciliation, confirmation, marriage, anointing of the sick and holy orders.

In communion, parishioners receive the Holy Eucharist, a wafer and wine that when consecrated become the body and blood of Jesus, according to Catholic doctrine. In order to receive it, a Catholic must be in the state of grace, have gone to confession since his or her most recent mortal sin, have a belief in the doctrine of transubstantiation (a belief that the wafer and wine become the body and blood of Jesus), observe the Eucharistic fast and not be under censure.

"Sadly, this past Sunday, I had to refuse Holy Communion to former Vice President Joe Biden," Morey told the Morning News via email. “Holy Communion signifies we are one with God, each other and the Church. Our actions should reflect that. Any public figure who advocates for abortion places himself or herself outside of Church teaching.”

Morey said that as a priest, it is his responsibility to minister to those souls entrusted to his care and that he must do so in even the most difficult situations.

“I will keep Mr. Biden in my prayers," Morey added.

The Biden campaign would not confirm he had attended the church but said if he did attend he did so in a private capacity. A spokesperson directed the conversation to a public appearance at 11 a.m. Sunday at Jerusalem Baptist Church in Hartsville.

His position on abortion is unclear.

Biden has said he supports codifying Roe. v. Wade – the 1973 Supreme Court decision that allows a pregnant woman to have an abortion without excessive government restriction – into statute but also said at a vice presidential debate in 2012 that he is personally opposed to abortion but does not want to impose that belief on others.

In June, his campaign told NBC News that the candidate supported the 1976 Hyde Amendment that prevents federal funding of abortion except in cases of r*pe, incest or when the life of the mother is in danger. This put Biden at odds with many of the other candidates for the Democratic nomination. Days later, he said at a gala in Atlanta that he did not support the amendment.

The position of the Catholic church on abortion is that human life must be respected and protected from the moment of conception.

Biden was in South Carolina this weekend for a town hall meeting at Wilson High School in Florence and a criminal justice forum in Columbia.

He served as vice president from 2009 to 2017 under Barack Obama, becoming the first Catholic to do so.

John F. Kennedy is the only Catholic to serve as president.

Biden also is the only Catholic among the most likely candidates to win the Democratic nomination. U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren from Massachusetts is Methodist. U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders from Vermont was raised in the Jewish faith but has described himself as not particularly religious and not religious in a traditional manner. South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg was baptized a Catholic but attends an Episcopalian church. Andrew Yang identifies as spiritual but not religious. U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris is a Baptist.

Prior to being elected vice president, Biden served from 1973 to 2009 as a U.S. senator from Delaware.
 






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....not about Clinton.... but relevant to the overall issue... not reported in the MSM, as far as I know...
https://www.scnow.com/news/local/joe-biden-denied-holy-communion-at-florence-church/article_4dfe451b-e181-5cdb-9da1-feae72795f0c.html
Joe Biden denied Holy Communion at Florence church
FLORENCE, S.C. – Former Vice President Joe Biden, a candidate for the Democratic nomination in the 2020 presidential race, was denied Holy Communion on Sunday morning at a Florence church.

Father Robert E. Morey of Saint Anthony Catholic Church confirmed Monday afternoon that he had denied the presidential candidate Holy Communion because of his stance on abortion. Biden, a lifelong Catholic, had attended the church's 9 a.m. Mass.

Communion is one of seven sacraments in the Roman Catholic Church. The others are baptism, reconciliation, confirmation, marriage, anointing of the sick and holy orders.

In communion, parishioners receive the Holy Eucharist, a wafer and wine that when consecrated become the body and blood of Jesus, according to Catholic doctrine. In order to receive it, a Catholic must be in the state of grace, have gone to confession since his or her most recent mortal sin, have a belief in the doctrine of transubstantiation (a belief that the wafer and wine become the body and blood of Jesus), observe the Eucharistic fast and not be under censure.

"Sadly, this past Sunday, I had to refuse Holy Communion to former Vice President Joe Biden," Morey told the Morning News via email. “Holy Communion signifies we are one with God, each other and the Church. Our actions should reflect that. Any public figure who advocates for abortion places himself or herself outside of Church teaching.”

Morey said that as a priest, it is his responsibility to minister to those souls entrusted to his care and that he must do so in even the most difficult situations.

“I will keep Mr. Biden in my prayers," Morey added.

The Biden campaign would not confirm he had attended the church but said if he did attend he did so in a private capacity. A spokesperson directed the conversation to a public appearance at 11 a.m. Sunday at Jerusalem Baptist Church in Hartsville.

His position on abortion is unclear.

Biden has said he supports codifying Roe. v. Wade – the 1973 Supreme Court decision that allows a pregnant woman to have an abortion without excessive government restriction – into statute but also said at a vice presidential debate in 2012 that he is personally opposed to abortion but does not want to impose that belief on others.

In June, his campaign told NBC News that the candidate supported the 1976 Hyde Amendment that prevents federal funding of abortion except in cases of r*pe, incest or when the life of the mother is in danger. This put Biden at odds with many of the other candidates for the Democratic nomination. Days later, he said at a gala in Atlanta that he did not support the amendment.

The position of the Catholic church on abortion is that human life must be respected and protected from the moment of conception.

Biden was in South Carolina this weekend for a town hall meeting at Wilson High School in Florence and a criminal justice forum in Columbia.

He served as vice president from 2009 to 2017 under Barack Obama, becoming the first Catholic to do so.

John F. Kennedy is the only Catholic to serve as president.

Biden also is the only Catholic among the most likely candidates to win the Democratic nomination. U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren from Massachusetts is Methodist. U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders from Vermont was raised in the Jewish faith but has described himself as not particularly religious and not religious in a traditional manner. South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg was baptized a Catholic but attends an Episcopalian church. Andrew Yang identifies as spiritual but not religious. U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris is a Baptist.

Prior to being elected vice president, Biden served from 1973 to 2009 as a U.S. senator from Delaware.
Is this going to be a new habit then?

Catholic Joe Biden is DENIED Holy Communion during 9am mass at South Carolina church by priest who claimed former VP 'advocates for abortion'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7623959/Joe-Biden-denied-Holy-Communion-Florence-church-stance-abortion.html
 






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I didn't link that one. That one was "OhHi" coming through in a clutch.

I can't help but chuckle at your assessments of the Democratic establishment candidates though. The DNC and their media cohorts have helmed the train wreck for too long. These are the same people who thought Trump was a joke and helped him get in! So I guess it's no wonder the train is totally off the rails now.

People are still following these DNC jokers too. Yes, people continue to "toe the line" when they would be served much better with "hands-on" a pitchfork. I would personally love to burn them down *if* I didn't think they were destroying themselves. That's the real problem though, so many fools love staring at a train wreck, even as it barrels down on them.

Seriously though, how is it smart to stare at a train wreck? Maybe a more accurate question would be, what happens when the train wants revenge on the engineers?
"Maybe a more accurate question would be, what happens when the train wants revenge on the engineers?"
It gets "reverse engineered?" Dad jokes..... ba-zinga! But seriously folks.......
 






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Is this going to be a new habit then?

Catholic Joe Biden is DENIED Holy Communion during 9am mass at South Carolina church by priest who claimed former VP 'advocates for abortion'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7623959/Joe-Biden-denied-Holy-Communion-Florence-church-stance-abortion.html
https://www.weaselzippers.us/436314-joe-biden-on-priest-denying-him-communion-im-not-going-to-discuss-it/

Joe Biden On Priest Denying Him Communion: ‘I’m Not Going To Discuss It’
MITCHELL: “I want to ask you one question that came out of local reporting in South Carolina I believe, there was a report you were refused communion at a church service for your stance on abortion rights. Is there any truth to that, did that happen?”
BIDEN: “I’m not going to discuss that, that’s my personal life and I’m not going to get into that at all.”
 






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https://www.weaselzippers.us/436314-joe-biden-on-priest-denying-him-communion-im-not-going-to-discuss-it/

Joe Biden On Priest Denying Him Communion: ‘I’m Not Going To Discuss It’
MITCHELL: “I want to ask you one question that came out of local reporting in South Carolina I believe, there was a report you were refused communion at a church service for your stance on abortion rights. Is there any truth to that, did that happen?”
BIDEN: “I’m not going to discuss that, that’s my personal life and I’m not going to get into that at all.”
This aint got much to do with the topic.......
 






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