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At around the 2 minute mark in the video, Elizabeth intentionally lies about the life of Jesus, claiming that "Jesus Christ lived obscurely for most of his life and never traveled far", which is a direct reference to what is commonly referred to as "the missing years" from the time Jesus was 12 years old (when He was teaching in Herod's Temple) to the time He returned to Palestine in His late-30s.

Jesus' Great Uncle and primary care-giver was Joseph of Arimathaea, who was the minister of mines for the Roman Empire ("Nobilis Decurio") and a very wealthy and powerful man was extremely well-traveled. Joseph of Arimathaea had mining operations in both Cornwall and in Ireland, and traveled back and forth between the British Isles (where Jesus spent His formative years -- the town of Nazareth didn't exist until the 4th century A.D.) and Rome, as well as to Palestine and wherever else the Roman army was in need of metal for swords, armour, chariots, etc. And Jesus traveled with Joseph of Arimathaea, an arrangement God provided.

The reason Elizabeth intentionally lied is to keep the British people in the dark about their Israelite ancestry, and to obscure the fact that she has broken her oath to the British people thousands of times (including giving "royal assent" to man-made legislation in direct disobedience to God's Law, which she swore to maintain to the utmost of her power) IF she ever was the monarch, which she obviously never was, having knowingly committed fraud at her fake coronation.

Further, and even more obvious proof of how she really feels about Jesus can be witnessed by her actions. Elizabeth is the wealthiest woman on Earth, owning 1/6th of the planetary land-mass, with her estimated net worth of tens of trillions of pounds, while many of her "subjects" live in poverty, some without a roof over their heads.


Would Jesus try to steal from the poor as Elizabeth does? Didn't Elizabeth take an oath to the British people NOT to multiply her wealth beyond that of her subjects (see Deut. 17:14-20). Elizabeth has not only tried, but succeeded in impoverishing and enslaving the British people for the past 70 years, while she runs the country and kingdom into the ground.
 

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At around the 2 minute mark in the video, Elizabeth intentionally lies about the life of Jesus, claiming that "Jesus Christ lived obscurely for most of his life and never traveled far", which is a direct reference to what is commonly referred to as "the missing years" from the time Jesus was 12 years old (when He was teaching in Herod's Temple) to the time He returned to Palestine in His late-30s.

Jesus' Great Uncle and primary care-giver was Joseph of Arimathaea, who was the minister of mines for the Roman Empire ("Nobilis Decurio") and a very wealthy and powerful man was extremely well-traveled. Joseph of Arimathaea had mining operations in both Cornwall and in Ireland, and traveled back and forth between the British Isles (where Jesus spent His formative years -- the town of Nazareth didn't exist until the 4th century A.D.) and Rome, as well as to Palestine and wherever else the Roman army was in need of metal for swords, armour, chariots, etc. And Jesus traveled with Joseph of Arimathaea, an arrangement God provided.

The reason Elizabeth intentionally lied is to keep the British people in the dark about their Israelite ancestry, and to obscure the fact that she has broken her oath to the British people thousands of times (including giving "royal assent" to man-made legislation in direct disobedience to God's Law, which she swore to maintain to the utmost of her power) IF she ever was the monarch, which she obviously never was, having knowingly committed fraud at her fake coronation.

Further, and even more obvious proof of how she really feels about Jesus can be witnessed by her actions. Elizabeth is the wealthiest woman on Earth, owning 1/6th of the planetary land-mass, with her estimated net worth of tens of trillions of pounds, while many of her "subjects" live in poverty, some without a roof over their heads.


Would Jesus try to steal from the poor as Elizabeth does? Didn't Elizabeth take an oath to the British people NOT to multiply her wealth beyond that of her subjects (see Deut. 17:14-20). Elizabeth has not only tried, but succeeded in impoverishing and enslaving the British people for the past 70 years, while she runs the country and kingdom into the ground.
Soon she will stand before the judgement throne of the Lord God Almighty...and give an account of everything she did and did not do...
 
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British Israelism is BS. You can only trace Queen Elizabeth's genealogy back to King David of Israel through made up stories. And that is assuming that there never was any non-paternity event in her family tree, which there probably was.
 

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Soon she will stand before the judgement throne of the Lord God Almighty...and give an account of everything she did and did not do...
Absolutely agreed. As will we all.

It isn't as if we haven't been warned for thousands of years:

Isaiah 3:12 [As for] My people, children [are] their oppressors, and women rule over them. O My people, they which lead thee cause [thee] to err, and lead thee astray, to thy destruction.
 

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British Israelism is BS. You can only trace Queen Elizabeth's genealogy back to King David of Israel through made up stories. And that is assuming that there never was any non-paternity event in her family tree, which there probably was.
There are no "made up stories" involved, nor required, to determine who the true PEOPLE Israel really are. They sure as this is hell are not the counterfeit Jewish state in the Middle East, that the British liberated from Gentile (Turkish/Edomite) rule on 9 December 1917, exactly as and when Israel was prophesied to do so.

The Scriptural Marks of the True PEOPLE Israel, and the current whereabouts of the Davidic Throne, are well-established fact (regardless of whether people accept or reject the truth):-
https://hannahmichaels.wordpress.com/2020/03/27/the-scriptural-marks-of-true-israel/

Also available here:-
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/twelve-tribes-of-israel-info-research-thread.5480/post-284935

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It's impossible to correctly understand scriptural prophecy about these end-times without understanding who the true people Israel are and where the Davidic throne -- that God promised David would NEVER lack for one of his descendants to sit upon -- currently is.

Prophecies which include the dethroning of Elizabeth, so that the entire world knows she is a fraud, and why God had Jacob's Pillar Stone was taken away before she could be coronated on it.
 
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Absolutely agreed. As will we all.

It isn't as if we haven't been warned for thousands of years:

Isaiah 3:12 [As for] My people, children [are] their oppressors, and women rule over them. O My people, they which lead thee cause [thee] to err, and lead thee astray, to thy destruction.
Yes, we all will be judged by God Almighty. The Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ is our Only Hope of grace
and redemption through His atoning sacrifice.

He first came as our Redeemer...

Then on His second coming... He comes as our Judge...

Ephesians 2:8-9
King James Version

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
 
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There are no "made up stories" involved, nor required, to determine who the true PEOPLE Israel really are. They sure as this is hell are not the counterfeit Jewish state in the Middle East, that the British liberated from Gentile (Turkish/Edomite) rule on 9 December 1917, exactly as and when Israel was prophesied to do so.

The Scriptural Marks of the True PEOPLE Israel, and the current whereabouts of the Davidic Throne, are well-established fact (regardless of whether people accept or reject the truth):-
https://hannahmichaels.wordpress.com/2020/03/27/the-scriptural-marks-of-true-israel/

Also available here:-
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/twelve-tribes-of-israel-info-research-thread.5480/post-284935

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It's impossible to correctly understand scriptural prophecy about these end-times without understanding who the true people Israel are and where the Davidic throne -- that God promised David would NEVER lack for one of his descendants to sit upon -- currently is.

Prophecies which include the dethroning of Elizabeth, so that the entire world knows she is a fraud, and why God had Jacob's Pillar Stone was taken away before she could be coronated on it.
So this whole made-up story will be debunked when Lizzie dies of old age without having been dethroned? It appears we won't have to wait long. This is some ethnocentric crap and only narcissists believe it. "I am one of God's chosen people" lol do you really believe the genetic admixture of a British person is the same now as it was during Christ's lifetime? Romans came, Danes came, Normans came and they all changed the genetic landscape of the British Isles, even if the people who were there during the Bronze age (Early Neolithic farmers + Indo-European Steppe Herders related to Corded Ware Culture) are still the ones who had the greatest contribution to what a British person is, genetically, this day and age. Only "true Britons" (those with no Viking, Norman or Mediterranean blood) are the chosen ones, any person who holds a British passport or how does it work? Because what I described as a "true Britons" simply doesn't exist. Read on it. That is a proven fact and not some bullcrap some racist asshole made up during the Victorian Era to suck monarchic dick.
 

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So this whole made-up story will be debunked when Lizzie dies of old age without having been dethroned? It appears we won't have to wait long. This is some ethnocentric crap and only narcissists believe it. "I am one of God's chosen people" lol do you really believe the genetic admixture of a British person is the same now as it was during Christ's lifetime? Romans came, Danes came, Normans came and they all changed the genetic landscape of the British Isles, even if the people who were there during the Bronze age (Early Neolithic farmers + Indo-European Steppe Herders related to Corded Ware Culture) are still the ones who had the greatest contribution to what a British person is, genetically, this day and age. Only "true Britons" (those with no Viking, Norman or Mediterranean blood) are the chosen ones, any person who holds a British passport or how does it work? Because what I described as a "true Britons" simply doesn't exist. Read on it. That is a proven fact and not some bullcrap some racist asshole made up during the Victorian Era to suck monarchic dick.
No, we won't have to wait long at all to see further prophecy fulfilled concerning the British/Israelite Throne.

You've completely missed the point of what's been shared, which has absolutely NOTHING to do with any race or group claiming to be God's chosen people. The prophecies concerning the people Israel are critically important for at least the following 5 reasons:-

1) so that the people Israel, i.e. the company of nations that represent the tribes of Israel, can be properly identified;
2) so that the Davidic Throne of that company of nations that represent the tribes of Israel can similarly be properly identified;
3) so that the prophecies concerning Christ's Second Coming, including what city and country the body He will use will be born, what day, month and year that will happen, and what, where and how He will be gathering the "Elect" from all of the nations of the world can be understood;
4) so that the entire world can see God's Hand in everything that has transpired and is about to transpire, including the imminent defeat of the U.S. and U.K. to Russia and China in WW3; and
5) in seeing all of the above, those precious few that are called and chosen because they have a genuine love and appreciation for truth will be drawn to Christ Who, exactly as it states in Scripture, will be here now.

Over two-thirds of the Bible is prophecy, over 99% of which has already been fulfilled in exact and minute detail. Only a complete fool would look at that track record and doubt the remaining <1% won't similarly be fulfilled.

P.S. the Vikings, Danes and Normans were all part of the ten "lost" tribes of Israel
 
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No, we won't have to wait long at all to see further prophecy fulfilled concerning the British/Israelite Throne.

You've completely missed the point of what's been shared, which has absolutely NOTHING to do with any race or group claiming to be God's chosen people. The prophecies concerning the people Israel are critically important for at least the following 5 reasons:-

1) so that the people Israel, i.e. the company of nations that represent the tribes of Israel, can be properly identified;
2) so that the Davidic Throne of that company of nations that represent the tribes of Israel can similarly be properly identified;
3) so that the prophecies concerning Christ's Second Coming, including what city and country the body He will use will be born, what day, month and year that will happen, and what, where and how He will be gathering the "Elect" from all of the nations of the world can be understood;
4) so that the entire world can see God's Hand in everything that has transpired and is about to transpire, including the imminent defeat of the U.S. and U.K. to Russia and China in WW3; and
5) in seeing all of the above, those precious few that are called and chosen because they have a genuine love and appreciation for truth will be drawn to Christ Who, exactly as it states in Scripture, will be here now.

Over two-thirds of the Bible is prophecy, over 99% of which has already been fulfilled in exact and minute detail. Only a complete fool would look at that track record and doubt the remaining <1% won't similarly be fulfilled.

P.S. the Vikings, Danes and Normans were all part of the ten "lost" tribes of Israel
Who are the remaining seven lost tribes and the other two that aren't lost? Seriously, the Bible says Jesus will come "like a thief" when nobody expects him and that there'll be no way to tell the exact date of his arrival. British Israelism started in the 19th century and it is utter crap, it's not true. The whole world is related. The tribes as described on the Bible are based on descent from the sons of Jacob who would come to be known as Israel since God chose that name for him and the nation that his children would become. If Jacob's sons were real then the whole world is descended from them at this point. We are all related and there is no magical people that are the only descendants, patrilineally, of one specific son of Jacob. The house of Saxe Coburg and Gotha is a German princely house descended from the house of Oldenburg. Shit, even the Duke of Alba is more of a direct descendant of the original British royals through the house of Stuart.

Jahtruth is an Anglo-Saxon supremacist website, dude, just get over it.
 
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Who are the remaining seven lost tribes and the other two that aren't lost?
The 10 "lost" tribes of Israel are the 10 northern tribes, who retained the name "Israel" (aka the 10-tribed "House of Israel"), which were taken into captivity by the Assyrians c. 722 B.C. and, upon their release, they migrated across Europe (with the Assyrians in some cases, who are the present-day Germans), eventually reaching the British Isles.

The other two tribes are the 2-tribed "House of Judah", (Judah and Benjamin) which were taken into captivity by the Babylonians, c. 588 B.C. Upon their release roughly 70 years later, a remnant of the "House of Judah" returned to rebuild Jerusalem.

Seriously, the Bible says Jesus will come "like a thief" when nobody expects him and that there'll be no way to tell the exact date of his arrival.
That is a gross misunderstanding of what it actually says in Scripture, and further evidence you don't know what you're talking about.

A thief comes in the night, when it is dark and when everyone is asleep, which is exactly the state of the world right now. It is a very dark world, FILLED with violence and evil, where virtually everyone is sounds asleep spiritually. Just like the times of Noah.

The disciples asked Christ, the Being within the human body called Jesus, when he (Christ) would come again (in a new body with a new name -- Rev. 2:17, 3:12, 19:12), and what would be the sign?

Christ replied that when they saw the Fig Tree (Jer. 24:5, Matt. 21:19-21) put forth new shoots, and begin to grow again, they would know that "Summer" (the new age - Sabbath Millennium) was near, after 6 millennia - (6,000 years) of Satan's mis-rule, known as "Winter" (see Matt. 24).

How does this tell us what YEAR the birth would take place?

The Fig Tree that was cursed and withered before the disciples eyes because it brought forth no fruit, unto God, was the Jews. The "Fig Tree" is the symbol of the Jews in Scripture. Jesus cursed the Fig Tree and it withered away, symbolizing what was going to happen to the Jews for rejecting their rightful King.

The Jews were kicked out of Palestine, had no homeland and were persecuted for 2000 years as God's punishment for rejecting, persecuting and murdering their Rightful King and rejecting the New Covenant referred to in Ezekiel 34, culminating in the Holocaust under Adolf Hitler (the Anti-Christ - 666 - who was blessed by the Pope and called "the envoy of God").

The Fig Tree then began to awaken from its withered state and began to put forth new shoots in Palestine on 22/4/1948 when the Jewish State in Israel was set up and David Ben-Gurion announced in the Museum Hall in Tel-Aviv to the world, under the umbrella of the United Nations, that the Jews would establish a Jewish State in the land of Israel on 14th May 1948. From that year the desolate, cursed land began, through irrigation, to flourish and put forth new shoots, with immigration of Jews from all over the world, the "Fig Tree" revived and put forth new shoots, but will never bear fruit (for God - Matthew 21:19).

So now we have the COUNTRY of birth, the CITY of birth; the YEAR and EXACT DATE of the birth of the new body to be used by the Christ - 22/4/1948.

Is that specific enough for you? It isn't as if the establishment of the Jewish state of Israel in the Middle East in 1948 was some back-page news-story that nobody heard about. There couldn't have been a clearer sign and yet here we are, 74+ years later and the spiritually comatose masses are being herded through fake pandemics by their fake corporate fictional governments and fake corporate fictional religious leaders straight into WW3, all the while with over 2 billion "Christians" crying out for Christ's return.

Why? Because "Christians" aren't expecting Christ to be here NOW.

And why are they not expecting Christ to be here now? Because they are spiritually sound asleep. and have been misled by their FAKE teachers/preachers/priests/pastors, etc., and thus don't know what they're talking about.

British Israelism started in the 19th century and it is utter crap, it's not true.
Why is that? Because you say so? And who are you actually trying to convince of that LIE?

Yourself perhaps?

The whole world is related.
Of course. We can all trace our lineage back to Noah, and beyond Noah back to Adam and Eve. But that doesn't mean we are all as accepting of The Truth/Christ. God Himself made a crystal clear distinction between the PEOPLE Israel (descended from Abraham through Isaac through Jacob-Israel) and the rest of the gentile world, didn't He?

And why would God choose Israel to be His people if not because they were the most receptive to His Word?

The tribes as described on the Bible are based on descent from the sons of Jacob who would come to be known as Israel since God chose that name for him and the nation that his children would become.
Agreed. God made this crystal clear distinction for a very good reason, and it has absolutely NOTHING to do with racial supremacy, nor with being a master race, nor with being used as an excuse to treat anyone else with anything other than love and respect.

The PEOPLE Israel were meant to be God's demonstration people, i.e. to show the rest of the world how wonderful and blessed it is to live by and be protected under God's Law. IF the people/nation of Israel had kept The Law, their neighbors would eventually attack them to try to take what Israel had, at which time they would be defeated by God, exactly as God has promised to do for those keeping His Law.

The neighboring countries would then accept their defeat, and ask if there would be any way for them to share in the wealth and prosperity that was enjoyed by Israel, at which time they would be told "yes, as long as you keep The Law that God gave us". This is exactly how the "grafting into Israel of the Gentiles" was supposed to take place, as Israel's borders would expand to take in its neighbors. And then the entire process would repeat itself, until eventually the entire world was part of the nation of Israel: God's Kingdom here on Earth.

But that didn't happen because the people/nation of Israel didn't keep The Law. And they are about to be punished severely in WW3, when the U.S. (Manasseh) and U.K. (Ephraim) are defeated at the hands of Russia and China; again, exactly as prophesied. God's unconditional promise to Abraham has now been fulfilled, and righteous judgment is coming.

If Jacob's sons were real then the whole world is descended from them at this point.
While the the sons of Jacob/Israel have been multiplied as “the stars of heaven” (U.S.A. - Gen. 22:17, Gen. 26:4, Exod. 32:13, Deut. 1:10, Deut. 10:22, Deut. 28:62).and as "the sand upon the sea shore" (Gen. 22:17, Isa. 10:22), it is absolutely ridiculous to pretend that they aren't real, or that everyone else has descended from them too.

We are all related and there is no magical people that are the only descendants, patrilineally, of one specific son of Jacob.
Again, who are you trying to convince of this utter nonsense other than yourself?

Abraham had children through two other wives (other than Saran, who gave birth to Isaac), including Ishmael (through Hagar), whose offspring became the Arabs, and through Keturah, whose offspring became the Indians.

The house of Saxe Coburg and Gotha is a German princely house descended from the house of Oldenburg. Shit, even the Duke of Alba is more of a direct descendant of the original British royals through the house of Stuart.
None of which changes the lineage previously shared, through which the English kings and queens can trace their lineage back through the Scottish kings and queens back through the Irish kings and queens back through the kings in Jerusalem, leading back to David.

You can argue against it all you wish, but God made a promise to David that he would NEVER lack a descendant of his to sit on the Throne of Israel right up until the time it is given to Christ. And unlike men, who lie, God ALWAYS says what He means and means what He says.

Please read and review the information that's already been posted before having another knee-jerk reaction to it.

Jahtruth is an Anglo-Saxon supremacist website, dude, just get over it.
Nonsense.

You haven't provided a single shred of evidence to prove any of the points you're trying to con yourself into believing, and have already proven you don't know what you're talking about, so why should anyone believe anything you have to say?
 

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Excerpt below from: The Scriptural Marks of True Israel -

1. God's Promise to David About the Davidic Throne of Israel:-

A PROMISE was made by our Creator to king David, that he would never lack a man to sit on the throne of Israel, until Shiloh/Christ’s Second-Coming (Gen. 49:10, 22-24).

Jeremiah 33:17-21
33:17 For thus saith the "I AM"; David shall never want (lack) a man* to sit upon the throne of the House of Israel;
33:18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want (lack) a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.
33:19 And the Word of the "I AM" came unto Jeremiah, saying,
33:20 Thus saith the "I AM"; If ye can break My Covenant of the day, and My Covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;
33:21 [Then] may also My Covenant be broken with David My servant, that he should not have a son [or daughter] to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, My ministers.

Psalm 89:34-36
89:34 My Covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.
89:35 Once have I sworn by My holiness that I will not lie unto David.
89:36 His seed shall endure for ever, and his throne as "the sun" before me.

Psalm 132:10-11
132:10 For Thy servant David's sake turn not away the face of Thine anointed.
132:11 The "I AM" hath sworn [in] Truth unto David; He will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne.

See also: 2 Sam. 7:12-17, 2 Sam. 22:51, 2 Sam. 23:5, 1 Chron. 7:10-14, 2 Chron. 1:9, 2 Chron. 7:18, 2 Chron. 13:5, 2 Chron. 21:7, 2 Chron. 23:3.

*NOTE: Not that long ago, it was still standard practice to refer to the human race (men and women) collectively as "mankind". So this promise to David—that one of his descendants (male or female - "his seed", “house” or “the fruit of his body") would sit on the throne of Israel until Shiloh/Christ comesdoes not preclude female descendants from fulfilling that prophecy (reference/case precedent in The Law: Num. 27:1-11).

This single prophecy leaves no doubt that there has NEVER been a time since the reign of king David when there wasn't one of his descendants to SIT on the Throne of David. This also automatically reduces the possibilities for the people Israel to a single monarchy.

It therefore follows that a careful search through the current monarchies of this world would be the most logical place to begin one's search for the “lost” tribes of Israel, to see if one monarchy fits the scriptural descriptions we've been given. Please see the following links for lists of the world's surviving monarchies.

https://www.oldest.org/politics/monarchy/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_monarchies#Oldest_extant_monarchies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_monarchs_of_sovereign_states


Please note well in the second link (Oldest_extant_monarchies) that out of the 44 current monarchies in the world today, 16 of them are under the British rule.

The Truth About the British Monarchy

Please also note well that NONE of the other current monarchs rule over multiple sovereign states.

This is critically important, because with just one more Biblical prophecy, the Throne of David, and thus the TRUE people Israel, can be easily and positively identified.


2. Israel SHALL become “a nation AND a company of nations”.

The following prophecy describes the true people Israel during the latter days:

Genesis 35:10-11
35:10 And God said unto him, Thy name [is] Jacob (the Supplanter): thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and He called his name Israel (champion of God).
35:11 And God said unto him, I [am] God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation AND a company of nations SHALL be of thee*, and kings SHALL come out of thy loins;

**Note:
There is no other monarchy on Earth that currently rules over "a nation and a company of nations" other than the British monarchy. It can therefore be said with absolute certainty that the British Throne IS the Davidic Throne of Israel.

The remaining Scriptural “birth-marks” of Israel (93 more follow in the article) can therefore be taken at face value to apply only to the British, since it is already an established and irrefutable fact that the British are the TRUE people Israel and that the British Throne is the Davidic Throne of Israel.
 
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Let me rephrase it: will this whole idea of British Israelism die when and if Elizabeth Mountbatten neé Windsor, of the house of Saxe Coburg and Gotha dies without having been dethroned and exposed as a satanic criminal with a history of child trafficking?
 
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Let me rephrase it: will this whole idea of British Israelism die when and if Elizabeth Mountbatten neé Windsor, of the house of Saxe Coburg and Gotha dies without having been dethroned and exposed as a satanic criminal with a history of child trafficking?
Well, as the mother's transient body is nearing expiration, so is evidently WW3 barging/converging.

Because, afterall, imo, the Beast isn't the mother.. but her son!
 
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Well, as the mother's transient body is nearing expiration, so is evidently WW3 barging/converging.

Because, afterall, imo, the Beast isn't the mother.. but her son!
So she will just take over Charles' consciousness when she dies? Charles is not well liked. I don't think he will feature significantly in any plans and, if anything, his reign would only bring the demise of the whole institution closer. If the firm wants to remain in power, William is their best bet as he is universally well liked and seen as a beacon of hope.
 
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So she will just take over Charles' consciousness when she dies?

Errrrmm.. Nyet. I didn't say that. Kindly peruse my comment again.

Nobody regains nobody's consciousness. Infact consciousness in itself is not an entity, but a byproduct of the apexmost miracle executed by our Universe.

Back to the subject--- Both, the mother and the son are different individuals but the mother, the grandson(s), et cetera are mere distractions for the highly unconscious, gullible, sleeping masses, imho. For instance, the year son was born 1948 is the same year state of Israel was born. A thread on this forum regarding AC's identity has plethora of information and unequivocal testimony to support the claim.

Rest, I reckon time will speak on everything regardless.
 
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