The Bible Says Jesus Is Not God - (Shocking Evidence)

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Jesus Christ said He is God.

And sprinkled through the Old Testament are verses that confirm this.


Jesus Christ is the Creator of the heavens and the earth and the Maker of angels man and animals.

The Word of God who spoke creation into being.
 





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Jesus Christ said He is God.
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

-Luke 18:19

And sprinkled through the Old Testament are verses that confirm this.
"I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me..." -Isaiah 45:5

Jesus Christ is the Creator of the heavens and the earth and the Maker of angels man and animals.
Blasphemy. Jesus (PBUH) was created. God is not created.

Is then He Who creates like one that creates not? Will ye not receive admonition? -Surah An-Nahl [16:17]
 





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JESUS = JEHOVAH THE SAVIOR

I don’t understand the need for muslims here to create new thread for every video they came across... there is a Islamic Video thread where they belong.
 





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And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

-Luke 18:19
Rather than treat this as a bait thread, let me present to you a view that may not go down well at the Mosque...

The person addressing Jesus as "good teacher" really meant what he said. Jesus was indeed known for his goodness, wisdom and for his miracles.

Have you ever come across a response on a forum that makes you think about something more deeply? Here, the man has noticed a distinctive qualitative trait about Jesus (his goodness). Jesus know this and answers the man with a question that might be a stone in his shoe thereafter...

Is Jesus entirely good, and therefore a different sort of human being than he has ever met, begging the question as to his true identity?

Or, is Jesus less than entirely good, making him perhaps admirable, but still nothing beyond human in his nature.

The man would have gone away and mulled this one over. Perhaps one day he might have understood what Jesus's rhetorical question really meant.
 





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Rather than treat this as a bait thread, let me present to you a view that may not go down well at the Mosque...

The person addressing Jesus as "good teacher" really meant what he said. Jesus was indeed known for his goodness, wisdom and for his miracles.

Have you ever come across a response on a forum that makes you think about something more deeply? Here, the man has noticed a distinctive qualitative trait about Jesus (his goodness). Jesus know this and answers the man with a question that might be a stone in his shoe thereafter...

Is Jesus entirely good, and therefore a different sort of human being than he has ever met, begging the question as to his true identity?

Or, is Jesus less than entirely good, making him perhaps admirable, but still nothing beyond human in his nature.

The man would have gone away and mulled this one over. Perhaps one day he might have understood what Jesus's rhetorical question really meant.
This is logical gymnastics.
 





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Jesus the hate preacher?

Luke 14

26If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
Are you saying hate is not good?

Hate is neither good nor bad. It is good to love that which is good and it is good to hate that which is evil.

I am a shameless promoter of hate. I enjoin upon whoever is reading to hate that which is evil. Hate in such instance is virtuous. I myself am full of hate and encourage others to be filled with hate. I hate intoxicants, I hate adultery, I hate injustice. I am pro-hate.
 





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Are you saying hate is not good?

Hate is neither good nor bad. It is good to love that which is good and it is good to hate that which is evil.

I am a shameless promoter of hate. I enjoin upon whoever is reading to hate that which is evil. Hate in such instance is virtuous. I myself am full of hate and encourage others to be filled with hate. I hate intoxicants, I hate adultery, I hate injustice. I am pro-hate.
But do you hate father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and you own life?

Sometimes Jesus said things that required some mental agility ;-)

https://www.gotquestions.org/hate-father-mother.html
 





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But do you hate father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and you own life?

Sometimes Jesus said things that required some mental agility ;-)

https://www.gotquestions.org/hate-father-mother.html
Are you implying I'm slow? There's a difference between intellectual debate and simply insulting.

Now as far as hating family...... and as far as what you cited....

in fact, I've already read that very link you posted. I read that a long time ago.

And of course I already know about the passage.

There's this bizarre thing I encounter where Christians appear to assume I don't know about Christianity.

I am well aware of what's in the Bible and I think I'm more aware of its teachings than most Christians.

So I've already read that link and I already know about that verse and have probably read the entirety of the New Testament.

The only way you'll show a verse I haven't seen is maybe if you pull an obscure verse from the OT.

I am well aware of what Christianity teaches and what Islam teaches.

And Christianity is a dying religion. It barely exists outside of theory. I am well aware of the contents of its sinking ship and I am not interested in boarding the ship.

Islam is the future. Islam is very much alive.

Christianity isn't fighting. Fighting isn't exactly part of its nature. There are fighting Christians but this is foreign to Christianity's nature.

What I mean is that Christianity is not fighting. "Fighting the good fight" is more of a Muslim thing.

So it is not the case that Christianity is fighting. It is the case that Christianity was fought and defeated.

If you have grandchildren, they probably won't even practice your religion. Islam is not a theory. Islam is an actual force in the world.

You are calling towards boarding a sinking ship. I'm trying to get people off a sinking ship.

Christianity is a call towards the sidelines of history. Islam is destined for the center stage.

And I am not insulting Christianity. But I cannot pretend it is okay for Christianity to just sit there while the house is burning down.

Christianity wants to not only just sit there while the house burns down- Christianity has the nerve to try to want to give bizarre, detached-from-reality lectures on why it's allegedly morally superior to stand by and allow the house to burn down. Islam is the more noble religion and strives to save the house from burning. No one who genuinely cares for the people can fail to recognize how Christianity's passivity is a threat to the well-being of society and of our human race. I cannot in good conscience leave anyone in the care of one who will sit there while the house burns down!

However, your (Zionist) brand of Christianity is not passive. Your brand is a propaganda tool in British imperialism. If it had stopped the psychopathic British imperialism, I wish Hitler had done more to stop Britain. I think God has clearly punished Britain with Britain turning into basically the Vatican of atheism. The Anglo-Zionist alliance and its two parties have done enough damage to the human race and I can't help but feel that Hitler was too soft on Britain.
 





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Are you implying I'm slow? There's a difference between intellectual debate and simply insulting.

Now as far as hating family...... and as far as what you cited....

in fact, I've already read that very link you posted. I read that a long time ago.

And of course I already know about the passage.

There's this bizarre thing I encounter where Christians appear to assume I don't know about Christianity.

I am well aware of what's in the Bible and I think I'm more aware of its teachings than most Christians.

So I've already read that link and I already know about that verse and have probably read the entirety of the New Testament.

The only way you'll show a verse I haven't seen is maybe if you pull an obscure verse from the OT.

I am well aware of what Christianity teaches and what Islam teaches.

And Christianity is a dying religion. It barely exists outside of theory. I am well aware of the contents of its sinking ship and I am not interested in boarding the ship.

Islam is the future. Islam is very much alive.

Christianity isn't fighting. Fighting isn't exactly part of its nature. There are fighting Christians but this is foreign to Christianity's nature.

What I mean is that Christianity is not fighting. "Fighting the good fight" is more of a Muslim thing.

So it is not the case that Christianity is fighting. It is the case that Christianity was fought and defeated.

If you have grandchildren, they probably won't even practice your religion. Islam is not a theory. Islam is an actual force in the world.

You are calling towards boarding a sinking ship. I'm trying to get people off a sinking ship.

Christianity is a call towards the sidelines of history. Islam is destined for the center stage.

And I am not insulting Christianity. But I cannot pretend it is okay for Christianity to just sit there while the house is burning down.

Christianity wants to not only just sit there while the house burns down- Christianity has the nerve to try to want to give bizarre, detached-from-reality lectures on why it's allegedly morally superior to stand by and allow the house to burn down. Islam is the more noble religion and strives to save the house from burning. No one who genuinely cares for the people can fail to recognize how Christianity's passivity is a threat to the well-being of society and of our human race. I cannot in good conscience leave anyone in the care of one who will sit there while the house burns down!

However, your (Zionist) brand of Christianity is not passive. Your brand is a propaganda tool in British imperialism. If it had stopped the psychopathic British imperialism, I wish Hitler had done more to stop Britain. I think God has clearly punished Britain with Britain turning into basically the Vatican of atheism. The Anglo-Zionist alliance and its two parties have done enough damage to the human race and I can't help but feel that Hitler was too soft on Britain.
Interesting response...

I wasn't, of course suggesting slowness of wit on your behalf. I was simply questioning the rather wooden Islamic use of Luke 18:19, divorced from context or thoughtful interpretation as evidence that Jesus asserted he wasn't God.

You may appreciate this from the time you have spent on this forum where you create a long, considered response and somebody leaps on a sentence you use and the next day you find 15 replies getting the wrong idea of what you meant.

Context is everything.

Consider the popular Surah 5:32:-

For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty), but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth.

Is followed by the less popular 5:33

The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;

A little consideration here seems to suggest that life is sacrosanct to the Muslim, however unspeakable acts are then suggested by Muhammad on those who oppose him.

If you regard simple, face value interpretations as the only admissable forms of understanding, how does such thinking help you reconcile Muhammad's apparently irreconcilable words?
 





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This is not merely a part of the past but continues into the present and Christian Zionism openly supports its continuation:










This is just the truth.

“We have to face the facts,” Lord Balfour said. “Men are not born equal, the white and black races are not born with equal capacities: they are born with different capacities which education cannot and will not change.”...

“The weak point of our position of course is that in the case of Palestine we deliberately and rightly decline to accept the principle of self-determination,”... "We do not propose even to go through the form of consulting the wishes of the present inhabitants of the country… the 700,000 Arabs who now inhabit that ancient land.”
https://forward.com/opinion/386480/...alfour-was-a-white-supremacist-and-an-anti-s/

Supporting the continuation of this legacy is befitting of a monster- but not of anyone purporting to serve God... I'm sure the people behind the atrocities listed in the first graphic probably purported to be servants of God as well.





I can't imagine having such lack of conscience.

Is it nothing to you, all ye that pass by? behold, and see if there be any sorrow like unto my sorrow, which is done unto me, wherewith the LORD hath afflicted me in the day of his fierce anger.

-Lamentations 1:12





Christian Zionists are hypocrites. They have no leg to stand on, giving talks on "morals" or "religion". They are Godless colonialists- modern-day imperialists. To support their cause is to be less fully human.
 





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Christian Zionists don't even live their own alleged religion, much less should speak about Islam.