true.No matter how you spin it you worship 3 gods. One is the true God, one is a man, and the other is some ghost lol.
False.true.
the patriarchs ie Abraham, Isaac, Ismael, Jacob, Joseph etc..they did not follow commandments/laws from God. They believed in God and lived a righteous life because God's Grace was on them.What is the "state of grace of the patriarchs?"
You may genuinely believe that the trinitarian doctrine is not polytheistic but according to Islam it genuinely is. Yes genuinely, really and truly, it is polytheism.I'm sure all of us Christians would be pleased if it would be accepted by others that we genuinely are not polytheists. I tried to explain this to @grateful servant a while back when she told me that 1+1+1 does not equal 1, to which I had countered that 1x1x1 did, but she was having none of it.
God is omnipresent, there's literally no need to pray toward any precise direction. They circled the city of Jericho for a specific purpose, not an object associated with Saturn worship because of traditions. We don't serve the same God, so using examples from the Bible doesn't help your case. My subjective feelings didn't lead me to believe that Muslims literally pray to Kaaba. I saw with my own eyes that Muslims pray before and bow down to an object, that's an objective truth. You can keep trying to twist my words but you can't change reality. My original point stands, I'm glad there's no statues or busts of Jesus because people would definitely worship it.Let me put this to rest and educate you on your own religion which you truly have no idea about because if you did you wouldn't be tossing these uneducated statements ever after I have just told you that the Kaaba and the black stone are only a focal point in the direction Muslims face when they pray to the MOST HIGH. It's only your subjective feelings and current anti-Islamic beliefs that lead you to believe that Muslims pray to the Kaaba/black stone instead of the reality, which every Muslim will tell you is that the Kaaba is only there to be the point in which people that believe in the Most High pray towards. It's as simple as that. You believing otherwise makes your ignorant of your own religion or you're flat out just trolling.
When Jacob got up early the next morning, he took the rock that he had used for a pillow and stood it up for a place of worship. Then he poured olive oil on the rock to dedicate it to God
- Genesis 28:18
Then Moses wrote down what the Lord had said. The next morning Moses got up early. He built an altar at the foot of the mountain and set up a large stone for each of the twelve tribes of Israel.
- Exodus 24:4
On the second day they marched around the city once and returned to the camp. They did this for six days.
On the seventh day, they got up at daybreak and marched around the city seven times in the same manner, except that on that day they circled the city seven times.
- Joshua 6:14-15
I will bow down toward your holy temple and will praise your name for your unfailing love and your faithfulness, for you have so exalted your solemn decree that it surpasses your fame.
- Psalm 138:2
I meant in three dimensions. The greatness of God not diminished by the immenance of Jesus or the dynamism of his Spirit. I know your vision of God differs from this btw ;-)You may genuinely believe that the trinitarian doctrine is not polytheistic but according to Islam it genuinely is. Yes genuinely, really and truly, it is polytheism.
I don't know what you mean that I was having none of the 1x1x1 example. the multiplication example doesn't fit at all because it just means 1 thing three times like, the father X the father X the father or...the son X the son X the son or...the holy ghost x the holy ghost x the holy ghost. It totally leave out the "three persons" you know - the father is not the son and the son is not the holy ghost and the holy ghost is not the father ...and the father is not the holy ghost and the holy ghost is not the son and the son is not the father ...
nice try though, not really.
Let me just reemphasise my point hereThe problem in articulating the Trinity is rather like my issue when I do a painting. Transposing the view I see to paper and pigment on a flat surface is so much less than the reality of the view I see, but the only language I possess.
I trying to articulate the Trinity we are attempting to transpose something unique, unlike anything else and transcendent from our own experience into human imagery and examples. At best we can get a whisper of a likeness in the analogy, but it always falls short...
immenance of Jesus or the dynamism of his Spirit.I meant in three dimensions. The greatness of God not diminished by the immenance of Jesus or the dynamism of his Spirit. I know your vision of God differs from this btw ;-)
P.s. As a liar an a counterfeiter, it struck me that Satan also wishes to mimic God, Cube worship with him as the "Most High", the immenance of the Antichrist and the dynamic "Cosmic Consciousness" uniting and directing his followers. Just shooting from the hip, but that's how it looks to me...
I hope you have noticed that counterfeiters of £10 notes tend to make very similar £10 notes. Perhaps I am assuming too much shared experience here.@Red Sky at Morning you wrote
P.s. As a liar an a counterfeiter, it struck me that Satan also wishes to mimic God, Cube worship with him as the "Most High", the immenance of the Antichrist and the dynamic "Cosmic Consciousness" uniting and directing his followers. Just shooting from the hip, but that's how it looks to me...
do you mean cube worship like when God had a holy tabernacle that looked like this
or a temple that looked like this
have some shame man.
dear wise genius of the internetz, did it ever occur to you that there are £10 notes but also $10 and 10 indian rupees and 10 whatever else?I hope you have noticed that counterfeiters of £10 notes tend to make very similar £10 notes. Perhaps I am assuming too much shared experience here.
If you have noticed how frequently a cube pops up, well done, but which is the original, and which the copy. Your answer may be personally important.