The Ariana Grande thread

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THANK YOU FOR THIS

we needed an Ariana thread.

SO much to talk about with her other than god is a woman.
I don't give a single damn what anyone says she is partly to blame for Mac's death.
if she isn't she as well as all fans and spectators must accept the fact she was extremely callous, immature, petty and hurtful towards him by parading around with that transgender dope head pete davidson trying to make mac jealous but didn't consider that it would hurt him so much that it would "kill him". even if he did reguarly die of overdose it's a lesson to be served: you no more than anyone else on earth is not special enough to control someone's life through manipulation and revenge. be careful what you do and what you think while you're doing it. she probs didn't think the dude was gonna hurt so bad inside that he'd shoot up more than usual and accidentally kill himself.

but aside from the normalization of how he went he was probs an enduring sacrifice. She has been through too many humiliation rituals already and I guess part of this was them taking mac from her or her offering him up somehow.

The pig was her and Pete's pet. I'd have to research it but it's harmless honestly.
Ariana gonna be the next Mariah within 5-6 years maybe even less than that and she's more stupid than Mariah in some cases but I like some of her music. I'll be posting about some songs too.
 





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Well his personality wasn't good either. He used to joke about the Manchester incident and Ariana was like 'it's okay, he's a comedian, this is just a joke'
He has said a lot of controversial stuff so it's no wonder they broke up.
if she was dating big sean and big sean always trolled and said serious shit his career would be over in a heartbeat because he's black we know this. Pete is trash. I've lost so much respect if I had any at all for this idiot Ariana.

WATCH THIS VIDEO this lady exposes Ariana dating messed up men to hide her own issues and it's 1,000% spot on she read the shit out of Ariana and told the truth about her inner emotional messed up self.
 





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I don't know whether a guy is ugly or not. But I can say that often times personality becomes the deciding factor. Plus it's not like guys have to be supermodels or anything. Saying a guy is ugly is lame at best, and at worst you might be gay.

I'm not saying gay is bad. But for the people who don't want to be gay, it kind of is in this case. I really don't care if people want to gay it up. I believe in freedom. But don't act like something isn't gay when it's totally fucking gay!

Like I was saying though. Personality. That's hw you get and keep a pop star. Also being an Occult master doesn't hurt.
eh.

all that moral goodie two shoes fluff aside he is ugly. he's ugly physically and ugly on the inside as well he is an ugly person.
This girl is going through a downward spiral and the elites are setting her up for a fall this is her fall from grace timeline.
She may recover but she'd need to go away for a long time or stay present in the media but change her image up and music up.

I know this may sound mean but she is setting herself up to be dogged by men for life. We're in the age where women the more hot, gorgeous, successful and talented they are means the more disposable they are subconsciously. What I mean is its kinda like if you got a semi attractive lucrative chick some men are interested in but if they hear she had 29 men so far unless they're desperate or jsut want to get off most men will avoid her or not get seirous cause of that. Now take into the account the character and overall gist of the 29 men. if she letting all men who aren't shit plow through her and leave an imprint in her life or career everytime then guess what? her chances of finding somebody solid or above her level are slim to none you get it? She's killing her chances in hollywood to secure her future when this pop star mini mariah thing runs out when she grows up and gets a bit stale in a justin bieber phase. She is no different than mariah carey but mariah carey had a hard life and a shitty handler in tony matola so it's different.

she already wasted most of her early youth on losers and she cut big sean off cause she felt he was bad for her image when she knew damn well what she was getting into by dating a rapper (who some believe is closeted anyway). You'd think someone with her voice, money, and talent could date up or pick sound minded people with a few every day probs in her age bracket. She more silly than kim kardashian. If Mac Miller never died she would have married Pete anyway or cut it off right a week / month before the engagement. That's a fact and it's sad it took the ex to pass for her to get it together.

If she had sense she'd leave these ugly men alone who always disrespect her or not fit to be with her and work on herself. Maybe get an older mature man who isn't using daddy issue role on her and secure some stability before she on the illuminati chopping block. so she can have something of worth to return to when she loses it all someday.
 





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I'm confused, if she's an mk ultra slave, why does she sing about the whole programming thing? like do we care? what's the point in the illumanti sending those messages? shouldn't they use her to send other messages instead of talking about her handler or her disassociation.
ALL artist do that once they make it big if they are MK ULTRA beyonce and michael jackson have done it too.
they don't nor can they control 100% EVERY ASPECT of your life or choices. Hence there is a reason why if some mainstream MK ULTRA stars go against the rules or try to expose the system they get punished or taken out. (etc michael jackson turning against sony). God blessed us with the power of free will. that is actually one of the only things mankind can't directly swipe away from us unless they try with external factors (drinking, drugs, peer pressure, abuse, physical force etc). A lot of stars let out their true feelings and tell whats going on through their music even if it says someone else is listed as the writer for the song (britney spears overprotected etc.) but they get some leverage to put some truth in there.

the mk ultra and satanic elite have to tell you whats going on indirectly or directly but because most of us are already sheep we never notice it akak predictive programming thats why the simpsons always predict everything, example trump was always going to be president and the simpsons exactly predicted the entire set up of trump coming to the forefront to announce running for president. so if you ever want to know what is happening in the world before the simpsons stop airing for good take what they say about potential events even if it's some made up dream sequence as truth. that's also why the show has not ended yet tbh but that's a side story tbh.

but yeah thats why she singing about it. Its the same for kpop as well.
 





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eh.

all that moral goodie two shoes fluff aside he is ugly. he's ugly physically and ugly on the inside as well he is an ugly person.
This girl is going through a downward spiral and the elites are setting her up for a fall this is her fall from grace timeline.
She may recover but she'd need to go away for a long time or stay present in the media but change her image up and music up.
Lol alright, he's ugly. Fuck that guy.

However, a number 1 song isn't exactly falling from grace.

I know this may sound mean but she is setting herself up to be dogged by men for life. We're in the age where women the more hot, gorgeous, successful and talented they are means the more disposable they are subconsciously. What I mean is its kinda like if you got a semi attractive lucrative chick some men are interested in but if they hear she had 29 men so far unless they're desperate or jsut want to get off most men will avoid her or not get seirous cause of that. Now take into the account the character and overall gist of the 29 men. if she letting all men who aren't shit plow through her and leave an imprint in her life or career everytime then guess what? her chances of finding somebody solid or above her level are slim to none you get it? She's killing her chances in hollywood to secure her future when this pop star mini mariah thing runs out when she grows up and gets a bit stale in a justin bieber phase. She is no different than mariah carey but mariah carey had a hard life and a shitty handler in tony matola so it's different.

she already wasted most of her early youth on losers and she cut big sean off cause she felt he was bad for her image when she knew damn well what she was getting into by dating a rapper (who some believe is closeted anyway). You'd think someone with her voice, money, and talent could date up or pick sound minded people with a few every day probs in her age bracket. She more silly than kim kardashian. If Mac Miller never died she would have married Pete anyway or cut it off right a week / month before the engagement. That's a fact and it's sad it took the ex to pass for her to get it together.

If she had sense she'd leave these ugly men alone who always disrespect her or not fit to be with her and work on herself. Maybe get an older mature man who isn't using daddy issue role on her and secure some stability before she on the illuminati chopping block. so she can have something of worth to return to when she loses it all someday.
Wow, that's a lot to unpack.

I don't think people care who celebrities date. Like if dating somebody hurts their career it's because of their own mind. Plus any relationship is probably going to be a distraction. So I disagree with some of your assessments. You may be feeding into some of the illusions of Hollywood.

With that said though, I'm wondering what guy is above Ariana? I'm only asking because I want to put my name in the competition. Now I'm kind of damaged so maybe your theory is good for me. I even have some of those weird fetishes pop stars seem to love. I'm overprotective and I just like forcing people to do weird stuff.

If I get with Ariana I wouldn't propose within a week though. I think that was her last relationships main problem and the Mac Miller stuff is just a red herring. Actually loving someone takes time. It takes tolerance!
 





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Lol alright, he's ugly. Fuck that guy.

However, a number 1 song isn't exactly falling from grace.


Wow, that's a lot to unpack.

I don't think people care who celebrities date. Like if dating somebody hurts their career it's because of their own mind. Plus any relationship is probably going to be a distraction. So I disagree with some of your assessments. You may be feeding into some of the illusions of Hollywood.

With that said though, I'm wondering what guy is above Ariana? I'm only asking because I want to put my name in the competition. Now I'm kind of damaged so maybe your theory is good for me. I even have some of those weird fetishes pop stars seem to love. I'm overprotective and I just like forcing people to do weird stuff.

If I get with Ariana I wouldn't propose within a week though. I think that was her last relationships main problem and the Mac Miller stuff is just a red herring. Actually loving someone takes time. It takes tolerance!
Sane people don't care who celebrities date (at least on a psycho / obsessed level) but the ones who aren't sane and are very media brain washed will. Also on the eastern side of the world in korea the public greatly cares who they're stars date as there is a system in the entertainment industry where they are sort of not allowed to date freely depending on if they are a pop star (idol) or not. that's another story but still. I personally think that is a bold claim cause a lot of secure people get unfortunately tricked, blind sided, and pick the wrong people without having any big issues for it to be their own mind. In Ariana case it's her mind and emotion. I mean I can't say because hey we live in a complex world. I don't put morals, feelings, or right or wrong into discussions like this one so I could name a slew of people I'd consider to be either slightly above her or above all the dudes she dated so far. But above her in career, wealth, success, and maybe intellect / emotional security. She knows she could get with a secure man who is decent and okay but she chooses her own taste of guys that don't seem to work for her. But anyways I notice due to her apperance you will never see her date a traditional manly man looking type of guy. It may throw off the balance and make any mature looking man or older man look like a child chaser so thats a random thing.

And if the public not caring about who so and so dates was true then so many celebrities who are history makers and icons wouldn't be overshadowed or tainted by their poor romantic choices and the hell that came from it or their bizarre dating history even lack of. Nah. If I was feeding into it I'd be way more invested in Hollywood and actually eating it up. Not all hollywood relationships are even real. Some have even lavender marriages, some are contract, some are PR, some are drug fueled or planned ofr certain reasons. No celebrity in hollywood is perfect and they are people like you and me but they don't have the freedom to live their life without everything they do and the people they attach themselves to defining them like we do. Especially if they fuck up.

Some of it is just truth but agree to disagree. I'm just speaking on the fact of how some of the dating is in hollywood and realistically even in regular everyday lives some poor minded men do judge women that way. Ariana is just a hurt girl who does not solve her own inner issues and heal before loving someone. No different than an everyday girl aside from the fact she is under a microscope and she was careless with how her actions with the pete dude would affect Mac. It should have never happened but this is still a lesson that you can't be egotistical and think you're gonna show someone or do better by hoping onto another trainwreck cause the last one you left may take it harder than you think and leave permanently. Hollywood just by a glance seems to be less empathetic and they don't value human emotions or life until accidents like Mac's tragic case happen whether it was natural death or whatever illuminati hoax people want to say.

I mean be honest if you were a man and saw some asshole random goof who was below you swoop in on the heels of your break up to a woman you truly loved and cared for more than he ever could suddenly nearly marry her how would you feel? And yeah it's loopy to get propose to in a week anyways Pete told Ariana the first day they met he was going to marry her. I feel like so many people glossed over that. Like hey the dude is a human being. everyone in america wants to cure the drug epidemic but common fucking sense a huge chunk of it stems from emotional issues and illnesses for why people use and people overdosing sometimes cause of an extra depressive time such as Mac's. A lot of people said he was a druggie during and before her to dismiss her having any influence or affect on him. She cannot be blamed at all but if thats the case wouldnt this dude have off'd himself long go or OD'd before this? People also throw in what he or she said but celebs say things just like we do where we're not telling the full truth or just saving face. only critical detail here with mac is that he died knowing and thinking she would marry this pete loser. that stinks out of all of this.

Ariana does not have anyone in her camp to teach her that and she does not know that. Her single Thank you next is kinda pointless and came too soon cause she does not understand true love nor loving herself cause she does not it's evident.

So yeah man I can't be feeding into anything. If I was I surely wouldn't be on here on this website thats for sure.
 





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So the MV for "thank u, next" is out and there's a lot of things I dislike.

In one particular scene Ariana is reading a book about "Immigration and Refugees" (goes to show how liberal she is)
In the very beginning, you can see her friend, Colleen Ballinger, holding a notebook with a pentagram drawn on it.

I love the song despite its profanity but in the MV it's 100 times worse. Ariana acts cute and innocent and then shows the middle fingers to the camera. A woman shouts "thank you b***h" at the end of the MV. Grande twerks with her ex-colleague actors from "Victorious".

I'm not into politics guys (I'm not even American), but Grande is clearly pushing the liberal agenda by featuring LGBT celebrities in her video and talking about refugees?
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Sane people don't care who celebrities date (at least on a psycho / obsessed level) but the ones who aren't sane and are very media brain washed will. Also on the eastern side of the world in korea the public greatly cares who they're stars date as there is a system in the entertainment industry where they are sort of not allowed to date freely depending on if they are a pop star (idol) or not. that's another story but still. I personally think that is a bold claim cause a lot of secure people get unfortunately tricked, blind sided, and pick the wrong people without having any big issues for it to be their own mind. In Ariana case it's her mind and emotion. I mean I can't say because hey we live in a complex world. I don't put morals, feelings, or right or wrong into discussions like this one so I could name a slew of people I'd consider to be either slightly above her or above all the dudes she dated so far. But above her in career, wealth, success, and maybe intellect / emotional security. She knows she could get with a secure man who is decent and okay but she chooses her own taste of guys that don't seem to work for her. But anyways I notice due to her apperance you will never see her date a traditional manly man looking type of guy. It may throw off the balance and make any mature looking man or older man look like a child chaser so thats a random thing.

And if the public not caring about who so and so dates was true then so many celebrities who are history makers and icons wouldn't be overshadowed or tainted by their poor romantic choices and the hell that came from it or their bizarre dating history even lack of. Nah. If I was feeding into it I'd be way more invested in Hollywood and actually eating it up. Not all hollywood relationships are even real. Some have even lavender marriages, some are contract, some are PR, some are drug fueled or planned ofr certain reasons. No celebrity in hollywood is perfect and they are people like you and me but they don't have the freedom to live their life without everything they do and the people they attach themselves to defining them like we do. Especially if they fuck up.

Some of it is just truth but agree to disagree. I'm just speaking on the fact of how some of the dating is in hollywood and realistically even in regular everyday lives some poor minded men do judge women that way. Ariana is just a hurt girl who does not solve her own inner issues and heal before loving someone. No different than an everyday girl aside from the fact she is under a microscope and she was careless with how her actions with the pete dude would affect Mac. It should have never happened but this is still a lesson that you can't be egotistical and think you're gonna show someone or do better by hoping onto another trainwreck cause the last one you left may take it harder than you think and leave permanently. Hollywood just by a glance seems to be less empathetic and they don't value human emotions or life until accidents like Mac's tragic case happen whether it was natural death or whatever illuminati hoax people want to say.

I mean be honest if you were a man and saw some asshole random goof who was below you swoop in on the heels of your break up to a woman you truly loved and cared for more than he ever could suddenly nearly marry her how would you feel? And yeah it's loopy to get propose to in a week anyways Pete told Ariana the first day they met he was going to marry her. I feel like so many people glossed over that. Like hey the dude is a human being. everyone in america wants to cure the drug epidemic but common fucking sense a huge chunk of it stems from emotional issues and illnesses for why people use and people overdosing sometimes cause of an extra depressive time such as Mac's. A lot of people said he was a druggie during and before her to dismiss her having any influence or affect on him. She cannot be blamed at all but if thats the case wouldnt this dude have off'd himself long go or OD'd before this? People also throw in what he or she said but celebs say things just like we do where we're not telling the full truth or just saving face. only critical detail here with mac is that he died knowing and thinking she would marry this pete loser. that stinks out of all of this.

Ariana does not have anyone in her camp to teach her that and she does not know that. Her single Thank you next is kinda pointless and came too soon cause she does not understand true love nor loving herself cause she does not it's evident.

So yeah man I can't be feeding into anything. If I was I surely wouldn't be on here on this website thats for sure.
I think I mostly agree.

Anytime an older guy goes for a younger girl it looks bad though. Plus she doesn't seem like the ultra-sensitive type. I mean she was going to marry that guy Pete. So she can't possibly care that much what other people think.

I don't pay attention to the pop charts and all that stuff. Therefore I can't really say much about whose career was eclipsed by the shadow of a failed relationship. It seems like it does happen though. I just feel like relationships are one of the things we shouldn't oversimplify. Especially when talking about celebrities in a complex industry.
 





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So the MV for "thank u, next" is out and there's a lot of things I dislike.

In one particular scene Ariana is reading a book about "Immigration and Refugees" (goes to show how liberal she is)
In the very beginning, you can see her friend, Colleen Ballinger, holding a notebook with a pentagram drawn on it.

I love the song despite its profanity but in the MV it's 100 times worse. Ariana acts cute and innocent and then shows the middle fingers to the camera. A woman shouts "thank you b***h" at the end of the MV. Grande twerks with her ex-colleague actors from "Victorious".

I'm not into politics guys (I'm not even American), but Grande is clearly pushing the liberal agenda by featuring LGBT celebrities in her video and talking about refugees?
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honestly viewing the video from a purely objective, neutral, and unbiased standpoint the video was very basic. The whole concept, her boost of celebrity, the play off 90s hits and her looks made it what it is. Just watch the video purely for the whole transition of it all and it's very meh at least the christmas dancing scene was it just didn't flow the way it should have. Kris's part at the end was iconic for better and worse but she said it in such a zinger way I didn't get the point of it.

but yeah its just wild to me that in this world today she can put out an MV like this after all the stuff that has happened (manchester and mac dying) but get away with it on top of the fact she barely mentioned mac that much? just saying he was an angel and that was it. She still kept the immaturity up by giving Pete props (more props than she even gave to mac, barely gave him anyway) by emphasizing his dick size again and all the lame lovey notes in the burn book.

it's obvious as hell mac was a sacrifice for both ariana and pete. You gotta move on and live your life but to do it like this in this tasteless manner is just pathetic. it's a bop but even then it's kinda lame.
 





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I think I mostly agree.

Anytime an older guy goes for a younger girl it looks bad though. Plus she doesn't seem like the ultra-sensitive type. I mean she was going to marry that guy Pete. So she can't possibly care that much what other people think.

I don't pay attention to the pop charts and all that stuff. Therefore I can't really say much about whose career was eclipsed by the shadow of a failed relationship. It seems like it does happen though. I just feel like relationships are one of the things we shouldn't oversimplify. Especially when talking about celebrities in a complex industry.
Well cool if you're that unbothered and detached. I don't stick my nose in a hollywood book 24/7 but I'm young and thats just in my everyday norm of my youth to know this stuff. no offense but this may not be the thread for you. Threads like this is more for the people are well versed in knowing about this stuff and are open to talking about these things. I'm not oversimplifying anything cause it's sorta common sense we don't know 100% of the truth that happens behind closed doors. The industry isn't even that complex anymore, it is, but at the same time it isn't.

What I said about ehr is the truth though those of us who know the general grasp of who Ariana is as a person (what she presents and everything out there) can tell she has a lot of inner issues and she been trying to run through all of these guys using them as band-aids for wounds / issues she never fully healed. so this whole thank u next is just another peak in her career. it's just sorta common knowledge. the girl is just as damaged and hurt with normal issues as any everyday girl. she's didn't truly learn all her lessons that she preaching about in the song but we'll see if it happens.
 





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honestly viewing the video from a purely objective, neutral, and unbiased standpoint the video was very basic. The whole concept, her boost of celebrity, the play off 90s hits and her looks made it what it is. Just watch the video purely for the whole transition of it all and it's very meh at least the christmas dancing scene was it just didn't flow the way it should have. Kris's part at the end was iconic for better and worse but she said it in such a zinger way I didn't get the point of it.

but yeah its just wild to me that in this world today she can put out an MV like this after all the stuff that has happened (manchester and mac dying) but get away with it on top of the fact she barely mentioned mac that much? just saying he was an angel and that was it. She still kept the immaturity up by giving Pete props (more props than she even gave to mac, barely gave him anyway) by emphasizing his dick size again and all the lame lovey notes in the burn book.

it's obvious as hell mac was a sacrifice for both ariana and pete. You gotta move on and live your life but to do it like this in this tasteless manner is just pathetic. it's a bop but even then it's kinda lame.
Pathetic is the word, check her Instagram profile photo.
 





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if she was dating big sean and big sean always trolled and said serious shit his career would be over in a heartbeat because he's black we know this. Pete is trash. I've lost so much respect if I had any at all for this idiot Ariana.

WATCH THIS VIDEO this lady exposes Ariana dating messed up men to hide her own issues and it's 1,000% spot on she read the shit out of Ariana and told the truth about her inner emotional messed up self.
"It dont hurt to try different s#!t, thats how you elevate in life!" That lady was on a good one........
eh.

all that moral goodie two shoes fluff aside he is ugly. he's ugly physically and ugly on the inside as well he is an ugly person.
This girl is going through a downward spiral and the elites are setting her up for a fall this is her fall from grace timeline.
She may recover but she'd need to go away for a long time or stay present in the media but change her image up and music up.

I know this may sound mean but she is setting herself up to be dogged by men for life. We're in the age where women the more hot, gorgeous, successful and talented they are means the more disposable they are subconsciously. What I mean is its kinda like if you got a semi attractive lucrative chick some men are interested in but if they hear she had 29 men so far unless they're desperate or jsut want to get off most men will avoid her or not get seirous cause of that. Now take into the account the character and overall gist of the 29 men. if she letting all men who aren't shit plow through her and leave an imprint in her life or career everytime then guess what? her chances of finding somebody solid or above her level are slim to none you get it? She's killing her chances in hollywood to secure her future when this pop star mini mariah thing runs out when she grows up and gets a bit stale in a justin bieber phase. She is no different than mariah carey but mariah carey had a hard life and a shitty handler in tony matola so it's different.

she already wasted most of her early youth on losers and she cut big sean off cause she felt he was bad for her image when she knew damn well what she was getting into by dating a rapper (who some believe is closeted anyway). You'd think someone with her voice, money, and talent could date up or pick sound minded people with a few every day probs in her age bracket. She more silly than kim kardashian. If Mac Miller never died she would have married Pete anyway or cut it off right a week / month before the engagement. That's a fact and it's sad it took the ex to pass for her to get it together.

If she had sense she'd leave these ugly men alone who always disrespect her or not fit to be with her and work on herself. Maybe get an older mature man who isn't using daddy issue role on her and secure some stability before she on the illuminati chopping block. so she can have something of worth to return to when she loses it all someday.
You make interesting points about the parallels between Grande and Carrey. I have to admit it, Grande does have a voice. But there are many with better. Not a Carrey fan but I will also admit, she was gifted with vocals that made her a unique talent within the industry.
 





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guys.....not liking what i'm seeing on the news....pete davidson (ariana's ex...ariana is a known beta kitten) has posted on instagram ..... "I really don't want to be on this earth anymore, I'm doing my best to stay here for you but I actually don't know how much longer I can last. All I've ever tried to do was help people. Just remember I told you so."
ariana,machine gun kelly and others have reached out to him.....his boss decided to send him for 'treatment'.........just a reminder that after his breakup,he appeared blonde(the tell tale sign of brainwashed....reprogramming in mkultra)...now he's being sent for treatment which is also a codeword for reprogramming.....not liking where this is going
https://www.eonline.com/ap/news/997...rande-at-snl-after-alarming-instagram-message
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...sending-Pete-Davidson-help-alarming-post.html
Maybe Pete Davidson's just depressed? Idk, we don't have to blame Ariana for everything. She's definitely not innocent but what happens in her exes life is not her responsibility
 





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I'm confused, if she's an mk ultra slave, why does she sing about the whole programming thing? like do we care? what's the point in the illumanti sending those messages? shouldn't they use her to send other messages instead of talking about her handler or her disassociation.[/QUOTE shes under mind control most of them are in show bz