The American “Coup d’etat”

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1. Yes, he did call back troops. Just check the facts.

2. Guarding the oil isn't the same as fighting wars for Israel.
He moved troops from Northern Syria to Eastern Syria to guard oil fields, while he let the Turks come in to fight the Kurds.

No guarding oil isn't "fighting wars for Israel" but Killing Iran's top general certainly is, as is coordinating with Mossad to carry out airstrikes in Syria. And there's recognizing the Golan Heights as Israel's. Greatly expanding the war in Yemen (which plays into Israels plans)
 






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He moved troops from Northern Syria to Eastern Syria to guard oil fields, while he let the Turks come in to fight the Kurds.

No guarding oil isn't "fighting wars for Israel" but Killing Iran's top general certainly is, as is coordinating with Mossad to carry out airstrikes in Syria. And there's recognizing the Golan Heights as Israel's. Greatly expanding the war in Yemen (which plays into Israels plans)
None of what you said is comparable to the events under Bush and Obama. "Letting the Turks in"? As to what? Trying to actively overthrow the Syrian government? "Killing a general"? As to what? Bombing civilians and financing jihadi militias?

And Yemen, yeah. It's more a Saudi Arabia trying to prevent Yemen from becoming a competing oil producer thing than the US fighting for Israel.
 






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That could just be similar to a new Nazi party.
Left in labour, right in values is the inevitable conclusion of every attentive political dissident seeing through the globalist mechanisms that liberalise labour and perverse and erode cultural norms and values. Perhaps someday you'll start to realise why the system uses "Nazi", "white supremacy", "Christian bigotry" like a Pavlovian dog against a political ideology that resists those mechanisms that give these globalists unlimited access to cheap labour, profitable markets and political control.
 






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Can any one man really do what some are giving him credit for? Until we realize we need to use our common sense at all times is not some of the real blame on the individual? Credibility is lost to people who are straddling fences. As for a grounded party of logic, I am all in if it would only happen. But I am back to common sense telling me that is what they fear most is people realizing the dupe on all for convenient, controllable division.
 






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Can any one man really do what some are giving him credit for? Until we realize we need to use our common sense at all times is not some of the real blame on the individual? Credibility is lost to people who are straddling fences. As for a grounded party of logic, I am all in if it would only happen. But I am back to common sense telling me that is what they fear most is people realizing the dupe on all for convenient, controllable division.
With common sense. You tend to know your place.
This all stems to identity politics. People now who lack common sense latch onto a group to feel they have purpose
 






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Of course. I posted this without comment because it was for info purposes only. I then responded to someone else and added as pure speculation that this could be used as an opportunity for the dems to remove biden, if they so choose.
It could be. But Biden is a career politician. He’s their boy. They’ll push him until harris is ready
 






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I'm not sure if they're referring to the The Movement for a People's Party (which I personally have a few problems with) but yeah I hope for a coalition of younger left, conservative, and independents willing to meet on almost a purely economic platform.
In theory this would be a good thing. Century long propaganda financed by billionaires can no longer convince the people that "trickle down economics" and "free markets" are the answer. I would hope those on the right would understand this by now, but for too many of them you just say the magic S Word or C Word (Socialism, Communism) and they will just react emotionally like they have been programmed to do. Left wing economics is the only way.

In 2016 I personally liked what Jill Stein had to say. That spoke to me far more than anything I've heard coming from an American politician.

Dore and Chris Hedges liked Stein I believe, and Stein was even liked by the Russians, but I dont believe whatever party the likes of Jimmy Dore and co. are working for will end up being lead by a person like Stein, probably somebody more like Trump tbh. That's my problem with these guys.

The Colon accuses me of Duginism (even though I don't know enough about him yet) because I think there's potential in embracing the sentiment for far left economic policies with centrist/conservative cultural policy.
I've seen him accuse you of being a Naz/Bol. I don't know what is in your heart, but I can see how and why he would accuse you of such because you push the Duginist line of thinking, which is also the Russian way of thinking, which is what so called "leftists" like Jimmy Dore, Chris Hedges, and Caitlin Johnstone are pushing. That is that the biggest enemy is not Fascism but Neoliberalism, and I disagree with that full stop. Caitlin Johnstone even wrote an article that "the left should work with the alt right" and she was rightly called out as a fraud by actual leftists. Sorry Davidson, but the left has no common ground with Fascists. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. Neoliberals will not purge leftists and throw us in concentration camps. Fascists will. Working with them is a fools errand, and that is what Russia is trying to convince the left to do.

Dugin is essentially doing what Hitler did , which is to use leftist economic rhetoric, to help build a "populist" movement which calls out Neoliberalism, and uses right wing culture war to consolidate a fascist base. Essentially they want to merge the "populist" left and right to "fight the establishment" But this movement itself is LEAD BY PARTS OF THE ESTABLISHMENT.

I dont know why you laugh at me calling "Left wing economics plus right wing culture" basically Nazism, because that is exactly how Nazism started, and that is essentially what Russia/Dugin and the "alt right" CNP/Paleocon/Fascist network in America is trying to do. That's why Jimmy Dore and Tulsi Gabbard have been boosting the white supremacist Tucker Carlson, is to create this Left/Right synthesis that will end up with nothing but FASCISM, where real leftists will be suppressed, purged, killed, or imprisoned.


You said you'd want "left wing economics with CENTRIST/CONSERVATIVE CULTURAL POLICY"

What exactly is that conservative cultural policy you'd want ?

Artful said the same thing. I wonder if your "conservative" cultural policy is the same as his.
 






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the evidence that this was an organized attack carried out by pro-Trump forces with the insider help of police and even politicians is overwhelming.

but some people want ignore all the evidence and stick to their packaged narratives about this being some big op to "demonize conservatives"

I didn't know you needed to demonize people who DEMONIZE THEMSELVES.

Every excuse had been made from "Antifa did it" to "Deep state made them invade and look for congressmembers" has been attempted.

Everything but the obvious. I think this was Trump's last stand, and it failed.

That's how coups work. There are many people who say they will support it, but they wait to see if it is successful. When it fails they just go back to business as usual and pretend nothing happened.

They didn't want you to think this was some kind of coup, which is why they put Viking man and other losers out front, for people to discuss, while actual operatives were trying to carry out the plan.

People also selectively want to focus on the pictures they want. The Viking guy, the guys walking peacefully between the velvet ropes, but they ignore all the footage of violent conflicts with the police, and people actively searching tunnels for members of Congress.

There were 2 types of images from that day. The one more peaceful and clownish images (vikiing guy) serve to cover what really went down, and other images and information coming out lead to the fact that this was a much more serious event.
 






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