The American “Coup d’etat”

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She is publicly begging trump to pardon her because she was only doing what he told her to.
but there's nothing to see here.

there's no mass mind control operation going on that can manipulate even the most unlikely of people to become unhinged lunatics.

Maybe she's really Antifa too, didn't know they had jets. LOL
 






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@vancityeagle

Your assessment of the political situation in the US is ludicrous. You accuse Trumpers of being a brainwashed cult while you're the clear product of a decades old propaganda effort to make people believe there is a genuine threat of white supremacists taking over, while this whole time the archetype villain in the mainstream has been the conservative, Christian, white male.t


There's absolutely nothing racist, let alone white supremacist about Trump or his policies. You're walking around calling everyone drunk on kool-aid while you're the one who's injected himself with that stuff to permanent brain-damaging toxicity levels.

the white/conservative victim hood thing is getting really old. Elites have been playing that game for well over 100 years, so you shouldn't really be talking about "decades of propaganda"

You are literally the poster child of fascist brainwashing, including believing everything the dear leader says.

you haven't even figured out that Trump is a fraud. Even most of the people who like your posts have figured that one out. What does that say about you ?
 






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Honestly I suspect election official fraud because of the behavior that was adapted in universally rejecting any motion to so much as investigate a single reported irregularity. It had nothing to do with anything trump said. They put 4 years into investigating Russian collusion.
 






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Honestly I suspect election official fraud because of the behavior that was adapted in universally rejecting any motion to so much as investigate a single reported irregularity. It had nothing to do with anything trump said. They put 4 years into investigating Russian collusion.
So recounts and audits aren’t investigations?
 






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the white/conservative victim hood thing is getting really old. Elites have been playing that game for well over 100 years, so you shouldn't really be talking about "decades of propaganda"

You are literally the poster child of fascist brainwashing, including believing everything the dear leader says.

you haven't even figured out that Trump is a fraud. Even most of the people who like your posts have figured that one out. What does that say about you ?
What it says about me? Um, nothing at all. Great argument btw. Many people think Trump is a fraud, therefore: Trump is a fraud. Still waiting for actual arguments about his actions, words or policies during his presidency that isn't Israel-related.

Your stunning inability to see obvious patterns is already obvious to plenty of us and it's no different here.
 






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What it says about me? Um, nothing at all. Great argument btw. Many people think Trump is a fraud, therefore: Trump is a fraud. Still waiting for actual arguments about his actions, words or policies during his presidency that isn't Israel-related.

Your stunning inability to see obvious patterns is already obvious to plenty of us and it's no different here.
you are in a minority EVEN ON THIS FORUM.

Everybody can see Trump is a blatant fraud,everybody but you. Even people you agree with on most thing wont go as far as you with your hero worship. You have no right to call anybody brainwashed, you are the perfect study for that. Arguments ? You ignore arguments so what's the point. You don't do logic so whats the point. Citing the claims of deranged Qanon lunatics is not an argument.
 






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Dude you are seriously living under a rock if you think this could not easily happen. We are at an all time high of hightened political tensions, with 70 million cult followers who believe their dear leader was cheated in the election, these people have a large contingent among them that believe their political enemies are child molesters who want American to burn down. These people have been incited and brainwashed for 4 years, the country is awash with guns, and you think out of 300 plus million something like this could not easily happen ?

Just keep denying everything man. Some of you need to stop listening to alot of these "alt media" clowns who just scream

"fake" "hoax" "setup" "MSM" Nobody is ever responsible for their actions are they ? Unless its Antifa/BLM of course. smdh.

You are starting to sound like Alex Jones. Lay off the koolaid.

Here's a secret, THERE ARE CRAZY PEOPLE OUT THERE, yes there really are, its not all a "hoax"


Trump has been conducting mass mind control and brainwashing on his followers. What exactly did you think would be the result of QANON, "Stop the steal", "The radical left is taking over" "We've got to take our country back" mixed with a crazy gun culture fetish. I find it funny that very few in the "alt media" want to really look into this mass hypnosis and mind control. Well of course it doesn't fit the packaged NARRATIVE.

I think the Capitol storming could very well be a "test run" to see what they could actually get people to do.
You sound just as brainwashed my man, by the US Democrat establishment and cultural liberals like Cunt Uyger and AOC. AOC is a pretender, a fake revolutionary. You're parroting the words of liars and evil military strategists.

You haven't noticed your tired storyline happens to be the same as the ADL, NYT, WaPo, NPR, other billionaire propaganda outlets? Oh Russia! Civil war! For (one of) the first times at this site I'm reading someone posting links to CNN not to highlight their twisted agenda but to actually share political arguments. The fact you could sit and smear Chris Hedges, a socialist and Pulitzer prize winning journalist who covered a number of revolutions is pathetic. Anyone who refuses to join in your hysterical fabricated culture war is the enemy.

I just think you're better than this played out narrative. You've brought up a few subjects I've never heard anyone elaborate as well but you're losing your mind ATM. Let's meet up and travel this country I will prove to you the fascist liberal police state's narrative is a exaggerated lie. Culturally things are not as bad as they've ever been. Tensions are only high ONLINE, the domain of their cyber-war. You're being conned and I challenge you to travel here and see for yourself.
 






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You sound just as brainwashed my man, by the US Democrat establishment and cultural liberals like Cunt Uyger and AOC. AOC is a pretender, a fake revolutionary. You're parroting the words of liars and evil military strategists.
I think you are mistaking my Objective look at the facts for being "Democrat establishment " Anybody who reads a history book about America can see that the potential for right wing terrorism is high. Yeah its easy for you and others who for some reason want to ignore this aspect to just brush it off as "hoax" or "FBI entrapment" (which it is some of the times) But when you just react that way every single time without even looking at evidence, that becomes a problem, and you just create a divide where there are 2 seperate realities. I dont support Patriot Act 2, I dont support any new "anti-terror" laws, that doesn't mean I can't acknowledge that there is serious outrage and anger that has been stoked on the right wing for many decades, all culminating to this point in history where people have and will react. I've said before you aren't going to learn about the fascist and white supremacist agenda listening to the vast majority of "alt media" because THAT is their agenda, so of course they will IGNORE, DOWNPLAY, any attempt to expose this, or childishly yell "hoax"

and yes Uyger will tell you the truth about right wing extremism because it suits HIS agenda, but that doesn't mean it isn't true. Uyger hasn't even talked about the CNP (which is the major organization behind right wing extremism) I've actually learned much about the CNP from conservatives like John Brissom and Josh Reeves. You know some people aren't actually trying to play the whole paradigm game and actually just want to get to the truth, wherever it leads them. Vast majority just want to play the team game.
You haven't noticed your tired storyline happens to be the same as the ADL, NYT, WaPo, NPR, other billionaire propaganda outlets?
So my storyline is the same as some billionaires, your storyline is the same as other billionaires. So where is the truth ? Could it be that the ADL, NYT, WAPO are actually identifying a real threat, but will suggest a solution to that threat that goes way over the top ? I suggest its virtually the same with the whole Covid thing.

Oh Russia!
months ago you admitted there was indeed something to RussiaGate and you even posted a link to a site chalk full of information, now I see you've gone back to the conspiracy clowns who are yelling "hoax" all to protect the Zionist Chabad billionaires who run Russia and Putin, and Trump.

I'm sorry DavidSon but when it comes to RussiaGate, the MSM was much closer to the truth the the "alt media" who did nothing but carry water for the Zionist Chabad controlled Russia. I suggest if you are not already aware to look at the Exposetheenemy.com website. They've done some of the best work connecting the dots. The rest of the shills can keep calling it a "hoax" and "Russia, Russia, Russia"

Civil war! For (one of) the first times at this site I'm reading someone posting links to CNN not to highlight their twisted agenda but to actually share political arguments.
again forget CNN for 2 seconds, I know its hard for you, but just look at the social media postings over the last few years. If you haven't noticed the vitriol and desire for civil war comming from MAGA, I dont know where you've been. @justjess has posted plenty of evidence, even of people she knows that are becoming unhinged, yet the "alt media shills" want to keep pretending nothing is happening. I dont need CNN to tell me its 2021, and I dont need them to tell me there are a lot of whacked out people willing to do whacked out crap in the name of politics and culture.
The fact you could sit and smear Chris Hedges, a socialist and Pulitzer prize winning journalist who covered a number of revolutions is pathetic. Anyone who refuses to join in your hysterical fabricated culture war is the enemy.
With all due respect to Chris Hedges, I used to like him but he's becomming another enabler for these fascists, not Jimmy Dore level, but when somebody spends the majority of their time complaining about "liberals" while simultaneously downplaying and even at times defending the fascist in the whitehouse, there is something going on. Could it be that Hedges, who has a show on RussiaToday, is taking orders from Moscow ? Is that even a consideration for you, you know based on the fact that Russia is leading the attempt to bring the "populist" Left and Right together in the name of "Duganism" and his goal of "National Bolshevism"

I've been highlighting the culture war. Seems many people on this forum are being manipulated into it.

I just think you're better than this played out narrative.
Frankly I think you are better than this reactionary appeasement of Fascists and their propaganda. Maybe you just dont see it, or maybe its who you were all along. What's played out is all the excuses the "Truth Movement" has made for these extremists. We've even seen this nonsense on this thread in relations to last week. Any excuse that will stick

a) Its a hoax
b) They set the right wingers up
c) It was Antifa

Literally any excuse to blame anybody else except for the people who were actually guilty of commiting the crimes.

I've been among the "truth community" for well over a decade, and its always the same story of denying and downplaying these extremists, while simultaneously pushing the propaganda and culture war these extremists have always engaged in.

You've brought up a few subjects I've never heard anyone elaborate as well but you're losing your mind ATM. Let's meet up and travel this country I will prove to you the fascist liberal police state's narrative is a exaggerated lie. Culturally things are not as bad as they've ever been. Tensions are only high ONLINE, the domain of their cyber-war. You're being conned and I challenge you to travel here and see for yourself.
I've been all over the US. I have family and friends in New York, LA, Atlanta, Houston, Portland, Maryland. Nobody is claiming its Nazi Germany out there, but to deny there are people who are becoming radicalized ONLINE by the propaganda put out by billionaires on social media, the internet, Fox News, you are just being willfully ignorant to one part of the whole game. Not only do these people exist, but that section of America is rapidly growing in size and anger, especially with all the "election fraud" propaganda being put out by literal nutters, and people like Giuliani who played a major role in the 911 operation. Step back a bit and look at the entire picture instead of being so stuck on one mode.
 






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So recounts and audits aren’t investigations?
Not if they were recounting fraudulent votes, and I have yet to hear of any thorough investigation into the algorithms in question for the dominion software. The refusal to look at the software and the attempt to lump all questioning of the irregularities into conspiracy territory is enough for me to raise an eyebrow. I don't mean this concise summary to sound pointed, but their (media and politicians) treatment of this whole issue and any dissenting voice in the matter has thoroughly convinced me, although there were compelling reasons for inquiry aside from them.
 






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you are in a minority EVEN ON THIS FORUM.

Everybody can see Trump is a blatant fraud,everybody but you. Even people you agree with on most thing wont go as far as you with your hero worship. You have no right to call anybody brainwashed, you are the perfect study for that. Arguments ? You ignore arguments so what's the point. You don't do logic so whats the point. Citing the claims of deranged Qanon lunatics is not an argument.
You're a minority on this forum too. Why use an argument against me, an invalid one no less, that could easily be used against you?

It's also very common on this forum to see people instantly ridicule others of 'cult hero worship' for simply supporting someone in the political world for having the right perspective and proper course of action. It's your prerogative to disagree with that and that's fine, no matter how much of a political illiterate you are, but to insist on arguing on this level instead of arguing actual policies comprising of the premisses and objectives, is immature and a complete waste of time.

You can keep construing perceptions with undefined building blocks, keep getting hysterical about Trump, calling him more evil than the entire DC swamp and mockingbird media combined, but if I ask you to explain what evil is, can you even do that? And is, for instance, Trump more evil than your greatest example Gaddafi? If so, why?
 






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months ago you admitted there was indeed something to RussiaGate and you even posted a link to a site chalk full of information, now I see you've gone back to the conspiracy clowns who are yelling "hoax" all to protect the Zionist Chabad billionaires who run Russia and Putin, and Trump.

I'm sorry DavidSon but when it comes to RussiaGate, the MSM was much closer to the truth the the "alt media" who did nothing but carry water for the Zionist Chabad controlled Russia. I suggest if you are not already aware to look at the Exposetheenemy.com website. They've done some of the best work connecting the dots. The rest of the shills can keep calling it a "hoax" and "Russia, Russia, Russia"
What an ignorant twit you gotta be to give more legitimacy to Russiagate than this obvious stolen election.

Even though anyone with half a brain knew the Steele dossier was a ridiculous hoax from the moment Buzzfeed released the scoop, it's by now undeniably proven by declassified documents that it was a completely false and manufactured smear by the FBI and the Clinton gang. That and the entire Russiagate nonsense the MSM has been peddling on a daily basis for 3 years, which even a 2+ year $48 million FBI investigation leaving not one stone unturned couldn't find any evidence for, until they switched to their laughable impeachment process over a so-called quid pro quo phone call.

Boy, I do hope the hard evidence of the election theft comes out soon, the sooner the better, so people like yourself will be forced to crawl back deep in the darkest holes of oblivion whence you came.
 






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Not if they were recounting fraudulent votes, and I have yet to hear of any thorough investigation into the algorithms in question for the dominion software. The refusal to look at the software and the attempt to lump all questioning of the irregularities into conspiracy territory is enough for me to raise an eyebrow. I don't mean this concise summary to sound pointed, but their (media and politicians) treatment of this whole issue and any dissenting voice in the matter has thoroughly convinced me, although there were compelling reasons for inquiry aside from them.
There were paper ballots. They compared the results from the paper ballots to the results from the dominion software. Same results. In some cases they counted them three times. Trumps own lawyers changed their claims in court and focused on expanded mail in voting being allowed without following proper protocol instead, which isn’t an allegation of voter fraud - rather an attempt to get votes from legal voters thrown out. This is getting ridiculous now tbh.
 






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There were paper ballots. They compared the results from the paper ballots to the results from the dominion software. Same results. In some cases they counted them three times. Trumps own lawyers changed their claims in court and focused on expanded mail in voting being allowed without following proper protocol instead, which isn’t an allegation or voter fraud - rather an attempt to get votes from legal voters thrown out. This is getting ridiculous now tbh.
I agree. They went through every legal process to recount.
Three times each.

Trying to argue any further cause people believe in whatever Q and others bought in and created a war.

Although I agree with Davidson. The war seems more online. I think the maga “patriots” won’t storm as much anymore after the fbi made some arrest.
 






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I agree. They went through every legal process to recount.
Three times each.

Trying to argue any further cause people believe in whatever Q and others bought in and created a war.

Although I agree with Davidson. The war seems more online. I think the maga “patriots” won’t storm as much anymore after the fbi made some arrest.
I think that’s cuz in real life people tend to congregate towards those that are more similar to them though I have seen massive family divisions even in my own family over this whole thing.

we will see what happens in the next week or so.. my concern is they don’t send 250k troops anywhere for no reason so I think we aren’t being given anywhere near the full story of what the threat actually is. I am highly doubtful trump supporters require that kind of response. I’m too on the fence with what actually would to speculate outside of my own brain though.
 






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I think that’s cuz in real life people tend to congregate towards those that are more similar to them though I have seen massive family divisions even in my own family over this whole thing.

we will see what happens in the next week or so.. my concern is they don’t send 250k troops anywhere for no reason so I think we aren’t being given anywhere near the full story of what the threat actually is. I am highly doubtful trump supporters require that kind of response. I’m too on the fence with what actually would to speculate outside of my own brain though.
I have divisions within my own family as well.
Although overall with my daily interactions with people in all walks of life. The politics are behind and we’re ready to move forward.

I’m more concerned how long this virus plays out. How real is it to warrant these stupid lockdowns.

I’ll reserve judgement on biden just like every other president during my lifetime.
I’m not worried about an overseas war yet. Although I feel tensions with NK and kimmy boy will probably escalate
 






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we will see what happens in the next week or so.. my concern is they don’t send 250k troops anywhere for no reason so I think we aren’t being given anywhere near the full story of what the threat actually is. I am highly doubtful trump supporters require that kind of response. I’m too on the fence with what actually would to speculate outside of my own brain though.
None of us really know whats going on, we can only speculate, and more facts are comming out by the day.

I'm just getting sick of people who want to ignore mounds of evidence that Trump supporters were whipped up into a frenzy to storm the capitol building. On top of just regular MAGA folks, we have police and military involved, and Republican state politicians. This is crazy, to just dismiss this all as "MSM propaganda" is frankly delusional.

I have a feeling as well that something is going on that they aren't fully making the public aware of. All these troops in the capital, a few people I like to listen to think there may be a final coup attempt, with General Flynn leading the charge. There's a lot of strange things going on. We've had ex defence secretarys and now the Joint CHiefs of Staff call out for military to "serve their country" and not to go against the election results. Do they know there are those among the military who want to carry out a coup ? With the apparent military involvement in the storming, I wouldn't rule any of this out. It could also just be that they want to get people used to mass military presence on the streets

We will see as the days, weeks, and months unfold.
 






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You can keep construing perceptions with undefined building blocks, keep getting hysterical about Trump, calling him more evil than the entire DC swamp and mockingbird media combined, but if I ask you to explain what evil is, can you even do that? And is, for instance, Trump more evil than your greatest example Gaddafi? If so, why?
I've never claimed Gaddafi was evil, I dont know what you are talking about. I've told you many times my problems with Trump, but he can do no wrong in your eyes.

Plain and simple if the leader of a nation is hell bent on fracturing the nation and pitting them against each other, creating chaos, anger, and violence. He is a terrible leader. Leaders are supposed to be uniting people, not sowing division. US has never had a more divisive president in modern history. He would literally watch the country burn for his own ego.
 






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