The 45 Communist goals for America

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No it is not. I can agree that capitalism needs correction but, the fact that it caused the destruction of the family or that these movements were born out of it are simply not true. But better people have debated this like my man JP. So in a nutshell...

what is you talkiing about?! haha. Honestly, this is NPC'ing at its finest.
Right... because lame insults is all you got on a regular basis. The industrial revolution most definately was the catalyst for the change in culture and traditions and the precursor to the feminist movement that you rail on about destroying the family. Most definately.

But it’s easier to blame an “identity issue” - doesn’t require much thought. Keeps it black and white and gives you an easy scapegoat that doesn’t challenge you to look at your own role.

Who’s the NPC? Which I had to google by the way. It’s an odd twist of fate that people tend to project their own deficiencies in the insults they choose to throw around for no reason.
 






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Also ur missing the point on porn, its not specifically about porn, its about the formation of societal norms that are actually counterintuitive for us to have better lives, under the guise of freedom, liberation and love. Uve gone into NPC mode, and u are not using reasoning at this point.
I agree with you about something but still somehow I’m wrong and apparantly an npc. Guess what? You make no sense. You don’t know me and you attribute positions to me that I don’t have, time and time again. When I offer to discuss those positions you throw more lame insults and decline the offer. So what is your exact purpose?
 






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Right... because lame insults is all you got on a regular basis. The industrial revolution most definately was the catalyst for the change in culture and traditions and the precursor to the feminist movement that you rail on about destroying the family. Most definately. Plus compulsory schooling.

But it’s easier to blame an “identity issue” - doesn’t require much thought. Keeps it black and white and gives you an easy scapegoat that doesn’t challenge you to look at your own role.

Who’s the NPC? Which I had to google by the way. It’s an odd twist of fate that people tend to project their own deficiencies in the insults they choose to throw around for no reason.
I just showed u from rockefeller themselves in the video what womens lib was about...lol.

Whatever just jess. Keep believing ur silly ideologies.
 






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when u actually investigate the founding fathers of america there were bible believing christians, and there those initiated its not as black and white as u are making it to be.

In the uk william wilberforce is a prime example of that. I suppose he was a right wing racist part of the establishment?

You still dont understand that being a "bible believing christian" means absolutely NOTHING if you produce nothing but evil fruits.

You clearly are not aware of the many instances Christ rebuked those who falsely claimed to be his followers.

You seem to have a very superficial understanding of Christ.

Your bible and your "religion" will not save you. It means absolutely nothing to God.
 






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I just showed u from rockefeller themselves in the video what womens lib was about...lol.

Whatever just jess. Keep believing ur silly ideologies.
Do you have any idea what Rockefeller was also behind? What came first? Either you missed it or you aren’t even willing to look at it because doing so doesn’t help your case. Making statements like that about feminism certainly worked a charm that even hundreds of years later people are still looking in the way he directed them to rather then the direction he was deflecting from.

You realize women started moving into paid work outside the home BEFORE feminism because when work moved to factories the additional money was needed since factory work paid so little just dads check wasn’t cutting it? You realize the home based businesses were no longer competitive since cheaper goods could be acquired from those factories which necessitated moving to the factory jobs to begin with? It was dominos... and feminism was an effect, not a cause.

I don’t know what ideology this is supposedly I’m spewing. I’ve never seen it mentioned anywhere. It’s either “feminism great” or “feminism evil”

“blame the libs they hate traditional values” or “blame the reps they hate progress”

I am saying none of the above. I gave you an actual ORIGINAL argument and perspective. Your perspective has been regurgitated a bazillion times - on this site and everywhere else.
 






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are u seriously trying to say that the SJW, Communists, AntifaAgents, and LGBQT are not in direct opposition to Christ but moreso that he would be on there side? lolwut

Ur christ and my christ are clearly different, urs is that false one soon to come.
Christ looks after the oppressed, that is a core belief of his teachings, to take care of those with the least.

If you think that's what the right wing are doing, you can go ahead and live that delusion, but I can assure you most of those claiming Christianity in America are false teachers preaching poison.

If SJWs are legitimately trying to look after people, yes there spirit would be more in line with Christ than yours, from what I have seen of your beliefs on this forum.

You dont know Christ dude. If he were alive today you would vilify him and claim he is paid by Soros to destroy America.
 






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And since Satan masquerades as an angel of light of course he will hide under something like communism to achieve his goal. Communism is supposed to be all the good things they say it is while in fact it is the direct opposite. This is a fallen world, a dog eat dog world and socialists/communist leaders are nothing but wolves in sheeps clothing. The Fabian Socialists logo was in fact THAT.

Jesus said this world would be destroyed and a new one would be offered. Communists believe the lie that we can turn this world ran by Satan into an utopia. Never. Gonna. Happen.

So this world being run by Satan somehow equals

Capitalism and America = good

Communism = bad

The fact that this world is run by Satan should be your first clue that America and the system of capitalism running this world ARE OF THE DEVIL.

Your pride will not allow you to see this simple truth.

You keep talking about those trying to "bring down America"

America is already fallen. You can't bring down what is already fallen.
 






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So now we have two people claiming in that Christ doesnt want people to turn from there sin of abortion, homosexuality, but infact would defend there right to do so... ay yay yay. This is the problem.

On feminism, dads paycheck wasnt cutting it? what are u talking about - we are talking about the fostering of a culture to disregard normal gender roles, not talking about someone having to earn money, we are talking about the indoctrination of the thought process, to not place emphasis on a family, or being a mother. If u dont think that that has purveyed throughout society at this point I dont know how to help you. This is why you are seeing phenomenons such as simping, men going there own way, etc, and men are being manipulated too, but that is a reaction to a distortion in GENDER ROLES.

As for the guy telling me I dont know Christ, haha, I dont think u know anything about anything to be honest mate.

The colonization was introduced by francis bacon who was a freemason. The balance of christianity in the system is what keeps it afloat, if ur a christian u have to recognise when christian values, are being outweighted, by the values ur talking about. Wether they are flawed systems or not.

See u keep saying its a reaction its not, its been implanted into society to create the new system, and ur gonna get it, believe me If u think ur not going to see trump out of office etc, In my opinion trump is a lesser evil to what u want, but when u get it, and u realise how decadent it actually is, im sure it will be too late.

Why are u saying america has already fallen? u just said it was built on racism etc, so it was never standing from what u say, ur posts make 0 sense and have no consistency.

 






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So now we have two people claiming in that Christ doesnt want people to turn from there sin of abortion, homosexuality, but infact would defend there right to do so... ay yay yay. This is the problem.

On feminism, dads paycheck wasnt cutting it? what are u talking about - we are talking about the fostering of a culture to disregard normal gender roles, not talking about someone having to earn money, we are talking about the indoctrination of the thought process, to not place emphasis on a family, or being a mother. If u dont think that that has purveyed throughout society at this point I dont know how to help you. This is why you are seeing phenomenons such as simping, men going there own way, etc, and men are being manipulated too, but that is a reaction to a distortion in GENDER ROLES.

As for the guy telling me I dont know Christ, haha, I dont think u know anything about anything to be honest mate.

The colonization was introduced by francis bacon who was a freemason. The balance of christianity in the system is what keeps it afloat, if ur a christian u have to recognise when christian values, are being outweighted, by the values ur talking about. Wether they are flawed systems or not.

See u keep saying its a reaction its not, its been implanted into society to create the new system, and ur gonna get it, believe me If u think ur not going to see trump out of office etc, In my opinion trump is a lesser evil to what u want, but when u get it, and u realise how decadent it actually is, im sure it will be too late.

Why are u saying america has already fallen? u just said it was built on racism etc, so it was never standing from what u say, ur posts make 0 sense and have no consistency.

Remember what I said about making up arguments that people never said?? See this entire post.
 






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Remember what I said about making up arguments that people never said?? See this entire post.
you can keep saying that but, u definitely insinuated Jesus was more of a supporter of a communist regime, or at least principles of communism ontop of that, u said where did Jesus condemn those titles (LGBQT, SJW, ETC... again). U are playing word games and making ur stance obtuse, as a get out, to say oh Im not saying that. Im addressing that implication.

The implications of the direction in where u stand are there. And therefore that is the bigger issue to me than communism, if we are talking Biblical. Unfortunately the communistic principles and "Anti" sovereignty of nations, while may be not synonymous certainly overlap, and seem to be a consequence of that line of thinking.

Social Justice Warriors and cancel culture is self righteousness on another level, Jesus wouldnt endorse these things and ur kidding urself if u think he would eagle. The motivation for which that is being done, is not out of love, but hate.

The whole one world government, conspiracy and New world order, is exactly that, its not a group of sovereign nations its a collective, and you and your pal there vancity eagle, are lumping all resistance to what we can clearly see IS THE PRECEDING IDEOLOGY, that takes shape of this new collective, as right wing, because guess what? that was a psy-op too. Yes, now all conspiracies are given lack of credence, on the left as they are associated with "supposed right wing, trump supportive thinking".

Im not a secularist nor am I, american, nor like u claim can u categorize my thinking, I am for the morality of the Bible and Christ, and how can u deny that we have moved away from that? The old system was more alligned with Biblical truth, and in my opinion the new system and the new thought that seems to be sweeping society will be less alligned with it, what do I see the new thought, purveying society that is antichristian? The radical left. The radical right is too sure. But the left has just decimated peoples thinking completely as seen in this thread.

Its as simple as that.
 






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you can keep saying that but, u definitely insinuated Jesus was more of a supporter of a communist regime, or at least principles of communism ontop of that, u said where did Jesus condemn those titles (LGBQT, SJW, ETC... again). U are playing word games and making ur stance obtuse, as a get out, to say oh Im not saying that. Im addressing that implication.

The implications of the direction in where u stand are there. And therefore that is the bigger issue to me than communism, if we are talking Biblical. Unfortunately the communistic principles and "Anti" sovereignty of nations, while may be not synonymous certainly overlap, and seem to be a consequence of that line of thinking.

Social Justice Warriors and cancel culture is self righteousness on another level, Jesus wouldnt endorse these things and ur kidding urself if u think he would eagle. The motivation for which that is being done, is not out of love, but hate.

The whole one world government, conspiracy and New world order, is exactly that, its not a group of sovereign nations its a collective, and you and your pal there vancity eagle, are lumping all resistance to what we can clearly see IS THE PRECEDING IDEOLOGY, that takes shape of this new collective, as right wing, because guess what? that was a psy-op too. Yes, now all conspiracies are given lack of credence, on the left as they are associated with "supposed right wing, trump supportive thinking".

Im not a secularist nor am I, american, nor like u claim can u categorize my thinking, I am for the morality of the Bible and Christ, and how can u deny that we have moved away from that? The old system was more alligned with Biblical truth, and in my opinion the new system and the new thought that seems to be sweeping society will be less alligned with it, what do I see the new thought, purveying society that is antichristian? The radical left. The radical right is too sure. But the left has just decimated peoples thinking completely as seen in this thread.

Its as simple as that.
No. I specifically said I don’t support communism either.
 






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Did you read just one of my posts and think you had my stance on the issue? The communist regimes you use as examples are perverted dictatorships. The capitalist system we are currently living in could be called a corporate autocracy - another form of dictatorship. There are countries which find a way to balance these competing perverse tendencies way better then we do (nothing is ever perfect) for the common good for all. We should emulate them.
First implication of an endorsement of communism at least in principle or, some of there principles. (THAT ARENT PERVERTED DICTATORSHIPS.)

Why do you automatically attribute the principles of “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” to a capitalistic system and assume they don’t exist in other types of systems?
Second implication as communism is an OTHER type of system.

Except that helping the poor and less fortunate was mentioned directly by jesus more then once and should be a big part of Christian morality. It is a false dichotomy at play here which says it’s either unfettered capitalism or authoritarian communism. There’s more then two options in life.
another implication that u are open to exploring a non authoritarian communist system.

I know u are not a communist what u are implying without saying it is, u think some of the ideals of "a true communism" that isnt perverted are good. Otherwise why are u in a thread, denouncing capitalism and talking and being pretty much objectant, to "unfettered capitalism". While trying to imply theres a form of something out there, that may work better, and implying that communism (non perverted communism is an option to explore).

Also on the nordic thing -

"Jerry Mander has likened the Nordic model to a kind of "hybrid" system which features a blend of capitalist economics with socialist values, representing an alternative to American-style capitalism. ... But I think of it as a commitment to use government to make life better for people in a capitalist economy."

This thread was about communism, u and vancity eagle have turned into a condemnation of capitalism, while also claiming that u dont support communism. Or at least perverted communism. But, maintain that there is some sort of middle ground and this is a false dichotomy, which there isnt because its an ideology, that cannot be endorsed without doing away with capitalism so there is a majoritive mechanism to the system, anything that allows any private profit would be classed as capitalism, infact capitalism as we know it doesnt really exist because what u are claiming is unfettered capitalism is really just the shape of communism taking place, but what u actually want is more equality in capitalism. But again - this again is u projecting ur viewpoint that more alligns with the the represented political ideology of who u DO NOT SUPPORT, I .E. Trump.

Because u saw someone condemning communism, and rather than talk about how these issues of trying to make america a communist country then shifted the blame back onto capitalism, its not.

Now hopefully u can stop playing word games, when we can all clearly see the alignment and implications u are making, and when u get backed in a corner, say, "ur attributing things to me i never said", grow up, and have an adult conversation instead of trying to score pedantic points eh?
 






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you can keep saying that but, u definitely insinuated Jesus was more of a supporter of a communist regime
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Christ doesn't support any regimes.

His spiritual practise does however lend itself to support certain causes. Now we can identify those causes because his teachings were basically to love others and treat others the way you wish to be treated. It really is not rocket science.
or at least principles of communism ontop of that, u said where did Jesus condemn those titles (LGBQT, SJW, ETC... again). U are playing word games and making ur stance obtuse, as a get out, to say oh Im not saying that. Im addressing that implication.
while he did condemn homosexuality, we need to stop pretending like this was his biggest beef with the world. It certainly wasn't, yet those "christians" like to refer to this and other choice issues and ignore his greater message. SJW. Christ devoted his entire life to social justice. Did you read the bible ?
The implications of the direction in where u stand are there. And therefore that is the bigger issue to me than communism, if we are talking Biblical. Unfortunately the communistic principles and "Anti" sovereignty of nations, while may be not synonymous certainly overlap, and seem to be a consequence of that line of thinking.
I would say communist nations were definately for sovereignity, in fact much more so than capitalist ones.

Capitalist nations look out for shareholders, who dont even necessarily need to reside within its countries borders.

Communism looks out for the nation, not stock holders.

There is a reason why communist nations were very isolationist. You've got things completely backwards I'm afraid. It's capitalism that leads to anti-sovereignity.

Social Justice Warriors and cancel culture is self righteousness on another level, Jesus wouldnt endorse these things and ur kidding urself if u think he would eagle. The motivation for which that is being done, is not out of love, but hate.
Again I dont think you've read the bible because Christ is literally the biggest cancel culture warrior ever. He is literally comming back to earth to CANCEL EVERYTHING.

SJW's and Cancel culture motivated by hate ? LOL No I think they are anti-hate, which is why they want to cancel hateful things. They are so motivated against hate, that they go too far at times.
The whole one world government, conspiracy and New world order, is exactly that, its not a group of sovereign nations its a collective, and you and your pal there vancity eagle, are lumping all resistance to what we can clearly see IS THE PRECEDING IDEOLOGY, that takes shape of this new collective, as right wing, because guess what? that was a psy-op too. Yes, now all conspiracies are given lack of credence, on the left as they are associated with "supposed right wing, trump supportive thinking".
Like I said, Christ does not care one bit for "soverign" nations or otherwise. When he returns, there will be no "soverign" nations, it will be a ONE WORLD ORDER, under his rule. You will have no choice in the matter.
Im not a secularist nor am I, american, nor like u claim can u categorize my thinking, I am for the morality of the Bible and Christ, and how can u deny that we have moved away from that?
We have not moved from that, WE NEVER WERE THAT IN THE FIRST PLACE. You and the right wing have this mythology that you were all good and holy and "christian" back in the day, but that just isn't true. That is a fantasy land.
The old system was more alligned with Biblical truth, and in my opinion the new system and the new thought that seems to be sweeping society will be less alligned with it,
in some ways yes, in other ways no.

traditional/old ways had some benefits and some horrors too

progressive/new ways also have some benefits and some horrors too

try to be objective
what do I see the new thought, purveying society that is antichristian? The radical left. The radical right is too sure. But the left has just decimated peoples thinking completely as seen in this thread.

Its as simple as that.
again try to be objective

the radical left and the radical right have both pushed things that are anti-Christ

but frankly I see much more of Christ looking after people comming from the left than on the right.

The fact that there really is no real left should also be a clue to you that that is where the real opposition to the devil lies. You know with taking care of one another, loving one another, providing for one another, respecting one another.

Frankly the right makes fun of these things, which is why I said they would call Christ a SJW
 






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Capitalism in itself isn't evil. It just allows for a person to thrive and advance financially to accumulate wealth so by default gaps in economic status will naturally occur. Obviously making money isn't evil. Its using money for evil ends and selfishness that is the problem. How would anyone here like it if they went to work and all of a sudden their employer forcefully reduced their wages by 3 dollars an hour to give to those at the bottom of the financial sphere. Yeah its noble, but each person should be able to choose what they do with their money and not have it chosen for them by a government authority. That is socialism... Its like someone forcefully coming into your house and taking your entertainment system that you earned and it becomes forcefully donated to the poor against your own will...
 






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Christ doesn't support any regimes.

His spiritual practise does however lend itself to support certain causes. Now we can identify those causes because his teachings were basically to love others and treat others the way you wish to be treated. It really is not rocket science.


while he did condemn homosexuality, we need to stop pretending like this was his biggest beef with the world. It certainly wasn't, yet those "christians" like to refer to this and other choice issues and ignore his greater message. SJW. Christ devoted his entire life to social justice. Did you read the bible ?


I would say communist nations were definately for sovereignity, in fact much more so than capitalist ones.

Capitalist nations look out for shareholders, who dont even necessarily need to reside within its countries borders.

Communism looks out for the nation, not stock holders.

There is a reason why communist nations were very isolationist. You've got things completely backwards I'm afraid. It's capitalism that leads to anti-sovereignity.



Again I dont think you've read the bible because Christ is literally the biggest cancel culture warrior ever. He is literally comming back to earth to CANCEL EVERYTHING.

SJW's and Cancel culture motivated by hate ? LOL No I think they are anti-hate, which is why they want to cancel hateful things. They are so motivated against hate, that they go too far at times.


Like I said, Christ does not care one bit for "soverign" nations or otherwise. When he returns, there will be no "soverign" nations, it will be a ONE WORLD ORDER, under his rule. You will have no choice in the matter.


We have not moved from that, WE NEVER WERE THAT IN THE FIRST PLACE. You and the right wing have this mythology that you were all good and holy and "christian" back in the day, but that just isn't true. That is a fantasy land.


in some ways yes, in other ways no.

traditional/old ways had some benefits and some horrors too

progressive/new ways also have some benefits and some horrors too

try to be objective


again try to be objective

the radical left and the radical right have both pushed things that are anti-Christ

but frankly I see much more of Christ looking after people comming from the left than on the right.

The fact that there really is no real left should also be a clue to you that that is where the real opposition to the devil lies. You know with taking care of one another, loving one another, providing for one another, respecting one another.

Frankly the right makes fun of these things, which is why I said they would call Christ a SJW
Im at the point where im not even reading ur posts dude, u talk nonsense.
 






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Not to mention there is really no point in working your butt off in school to be a doctor and secure your financial future if you are just going to be paid as much as a construction worker who didn't go to school.
 






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Not to mention there is really no point in working your butt off in school to be a doctor and secure your financial future if you are just going to be paid as much as a construction worker who didn't go to school.
I think people are looking for the utopian system that is not possible on this earth. All throughout the Bible there have been leaders and heirachies, everything just keeps getting turned upside down. How much will those who want this perfect system long for one delivering it? is it just me who sees this?
 






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Not to mention there is really no point in working your butt off in school to be a doctor and secure your financial future if you are just going to be paid as much as a construction worker who didn't go to school.
That literally has NOTHING to do with socialism.

But keep up with the silly right wing talking points.
 






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I think people are looking for the utopian system that is not possible on this earth. All throughout the Bible there have been leaders and heirachies, everything just keeps getting turned upside down. How much will those who want this perfect system long for one delivering it? is it just me who sees this?
There is only true fulfillment in God and recognizing that our souls were designed specifically to be recipients of his love, wisdom, and provision. God is the source of love and in the absence of love there are only unfulfilling substitutes.
 






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