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An Oregon man filed suits Monday claiming Dick's Sporting Goods and Walmart discriminated against the 20-year-old when they refused to sell him a rifle.
 

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But republicans always say businesses have the right to serve or not serve whoever they want, and to sell or not sell whatever they want...
 

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But republicans always say businesses have the right to serve or not serve whoever they want, and to sell or not sell whatever they want...
Had it been any other protected class, you may have a point. But they (republicans) never said anything about age. At least that I'm aware of.
 

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Doesnt matter what the specific business decision is, republicans have always asserted businesses should be able to make their own decisions without restriction.. its the principle, and the principle becomes blatantly hypocritical if the limit to it is when it inconveniences a conservative
 

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Doesnt matter what the specific business decision is, republicans have always asserted businesses should be able to make their own decisions without restriction.. its the principle, and the principle becomes blatantly hypocritical if the limit to it is when it inconveniences a conservative
So only conservatives buy guns? We can talk about the merits of the case or blame the other guy. Even Obama didn't go after the bump stocks.
 

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I actually support this. It is a reasonable demonstration of the right for a business to create a standard without this standard being imposed on them by the government. I already have said in another thread that I thought that the legal age should be raised to 21 to respond to this issue that seems to affect a younger population. These shootings are being committed by people in their mid to late teens. Therefore, it is reasonable that they should be penalized for this and the rest of the adult population should not be dealt with according to the way we would treat our youth.

I actually think this is incredible. If more people took initiative like this without it being imposed on them by the government, the country would start to improve overall. I also don't see why there is any reason to suggest that something like this being implemented as a law would be a bad thing either. I think their initiative also creates the opportunity to see whether this is an effective solution that would resolve the debate over firearms and the division that has been created over them. Raising the legal age to own a gun could create an improvement without threatening the 2nd amendment.
 

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So only conservatives buy guns? We can talk about the merits of the case or blame the other guy. Even Obama didn't go after the bump stocks.
Its the same people pissed about dicks that were screaming the bakers dont have to make cakes for gays. One way or the other. Otherwise its hypocritical and its only a standard you invoke when it benefits you. That was my point. Pretty much my only point.
 

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18-20 is such a weird age range. You can be in porn and protect your country from the threats they created but you can’t buy guns apparently, can’t drink, smoke weed, and older adults don’t view you as adults.
 

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18-20 is such a weird age range. You can be in porn and protect your country from the threats they created but you can’t buy guns apparently, can’t drink, smoke weed, and older adults don’t view you as adults.
It would be amazing if we could apply this to military too. I would be in favor of changing the minimum age for joining the military to 21 as well. Some people really want to join the military and in some respects, it is necessary to consider how you are going to defend yourself. However, too many kids end up signing up to join the military after graduating high school because of the incentives they provide for going to school.

That is why several people I know signed up to join the military before 9/11, and then they ended up having to serve in the middle east after Bush decided to take us to war. One of my friends ended up disabled with severe PTSD. I do think we should find ways to step away from being involved in so many military endeavors and that would be a way to do that as well, and it would reduce the ability to recruit kids who are trying to find ways to go to school and don't really want to join the military to be a supersoldier or something.

Eighteen to 20 is a weird age because you are old enough to make decisions that will affect your entire life and you still have a limited, short-term perspective that has difficulty considering the long-term. We should find ways to create more protections because of this without crippling the development of responsibility as well.
 

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18-20 is such a weird age range. You can be in porn and protect your country from the threats they created but you can’t buy guns apparently, can’t drink, smoke weed, and older adults don’t view you as adults.
You're absolutely right. At 18 you're old enough to go shoot and kill people on foreign land but you can't buy a gun when on home turf.

Another good point you made is about older adults not viewing late teens as adults or not taking them seriously but yet 16 year old teenagers should be thrown the full force of the law when they commit a crime because they know exactly what they were doing. Hypocrisy among our societies runs rampant.
 

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Tbh the age for all those thungs should be raised.. your brain doesnt stop developing until 25, long term consequential thinking is the last to develop.
They should be raised but that would be the right thing to do. Our government doesn’t have our best interests at heart.
 

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"... after the two companies [Dick's & Walmart] changed their gun policies to stop anyone under the age of 21 from purchasing a rifle."

I see.. this is a company-wide policy change for both Dick's and Walmart-- not an isolated incident. Nothing wrong with that.. they're just trying to avoid something that could affect their PROFITS-- Liability.

They are still the same heartless corporate monsters they have always been.. nothing to see here.
 

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"... after the two companies [Dick's & Walmart] changed their gun policies to stop anyone under the age of 21 from purchasing a rifle."

I see.. this is a company-wide policy change for both Dick's and Walmart-- not an isolated incident. Nothing wrong with that.. they're just trying to avoid something that could affect their PROFITS-- Liability.

They are still the same heartless corporate monsters they have always been.. nothing to see here.
Honestly, it is a way to get good press. I almost feel motivated to shop there because of this...almost.
 

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Dicks charges like a hundred dollars for a sweatshirt that is made by name brand companies who outsource their labor, so I don't shop there. I need to learn to sew is what I need to do.

I have been boycotting Walmart for years as well. Can't stand the idea of supporting a company when the employees qualify for food stamps. Walmart is a burden on the taxpayer.

Still, I think that this is a good example of taking initiative. However, trying to support small business whenever possible is still a better way to take initiative and this is what I plan to continue doing.
 

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I actually support this. It is a reasonable demonstration of the right for a business to create a standard
Would you still support it if a bookstore set an age for religious texts? Or a corner store set an age for candy? Or PP set an age for services? My problem with this is not the age so mach as it's not the stores place to decide.

Side note for 18-20 year old people: If you have the means, lawyer up. If not, wait for the class-action. I don't see how Wally World Dicks will win this.
 
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