Sweden voted socialistic yet again

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That last sentence is hilarious coming from a person who is cheering for a political party that literally has its origins in the neo nazi movement.
I think it's you who sound more like Hitler than and of all of us that vote SD. Your values and ideologies seem..Off. And the worst part is that you cant even see it yourself.

All we want is our peaceful country back and to stop the crimes and destruction . If you consider that to be s a nazi then theres something wrong with the way you think.

Ps: Aaand the crime continues. Now Europol and Frontex has arrested two criminals here. Life with all the immigrants is GREAT!

https://www.hd.se/2018-09-14/europol-slog-till-i-malmo-och-helsingborg-tva-personer (In swedish though)

Oooh and a lok at EUROPOLS site tells of this:

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/germany-and-sweden-take-action-against-cyber-fraud-gang

With the support of Europol and Frontex, two suspects were arrested on 12 September in a series of coordinated raids across Germany and Sweden in an investigation targeting a Syrian organised crime group suspected of cyber fraud. House searches were carried out in Aachen, Dortmund and Essen (Germany), and in Nörrköping, Malmö and Helsingborg (Sweden), where police recovered some EUR 54 000 and USD 55 000. The arrestees are believed to be the key organisers of a cyber fraud gang.

Thats RACIST of Europol to write! Syrians are so peaceful, they cant possibly be criminals! ..or can they?
 





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All we want is our peaceful country back and to stop the crimes and destruction . If you consider that to be s a nazi then theres something wrong with the way you think.
That is why you should lobby for better immigration laws. Change them.
Then deal with criminals by improving your system of justice. Change it.
Your method of hating on All immigrants is saddening.
In addition your repeated bigotry makes me sick and tired of your country and its issues on these forums.
 





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This is completely wrong. That would be like saying america is fascistic bc they are nationalists.
America is increasingly fascistic all the time as a direct result of their extreme nationalism. They have the most militarized police forces in the word, a highly authoritarian system that surveilles literally ALL of its citizens, an unquestionably rampant military industrial system that goes to war unofficially on a whim in complete disregard of the Geneva Convention, established for the very purpose of preventing another state from attempting world domination.
Now we even have the classic figurehead who disregards the law, unabashedly lies to his people as a matter of policy, and has a wildly devoted following of extreme Nationalists who'd probably try to burn the country down if he was impeached. He's even suggested he wants to stay longer than two terms.
 





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America is increasingly fascistic all the time as a direct result of their extreme nationalism. They have the most militarized police forces in the word, a highly authoritarian system that surveilles literally ALL of its citizens, an unquestionably rampant military industrial system that goes to war unofficially on a whim in complete disregard of the Geneva Convention, established for the very purpose of preventing another state from attempting world domination.
Now we even have the classic figurehead who disregards the law, unabashedly lies to his people as a matter of policy, and has a wildly devoted following of extreme Nationalists who'd probably try to burn the country down if he was impeached. He's even suggested he wants to stay longer than two terms.
Yet you (Guessing you're american?) have loads and loads of immigrants like illegal mexicans, you have italians, asians and so on..
How's that for being "fascist"?

Sweden surveills their population aswell. We have cameras in our parks, on our public areas and the FRA law. It's no less unsurveilled over here at all.
Dont even get into the Trump ordeal. Thats the best president you guys ever had!

Funny that their police is the most militarized force in the world since this is how little respect your immigrants show it:

 





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Yet you (Guessing you're american?) have loads and loads of immigrants like illegal mexicans, you have italians, asians and so on..
How's that for being "fascist"?
If you'd even attempted to listen to what I'm saying, you'd know I'm Canadian, as I've stated several times. If you'd been paying attention to recent American policy, you'd know- prior to massive public outcry- the Trump administration was wrangling up illegal immigrants in record numbers and detaining them for record durations, separating families in many cases indefinitely, a decision generally regarded by morally minded people as frighteningly authoritarian.
Sweden surveills their population aswell. We have cameras in our parks, on our public areas and the FRA law. It's no less unsurveilled over here at all.
I'm not talking about cameras in parks. I'm talking about hacking your webcam, your cellphone, and all connected personal devices to track all your e-mails, all your text messages, your entire internet history, etc. The FRA in Sweden isn't even allowed to initiate surveillance without government assignment. The NSA is monitoring everybody, all the time. There's a pretty big difference.

Dont even get into the Trump ordeal. Thats the best president you guys ever had!
Yeah, fuck these guys:




THIS is the real thing:

It's entirely clear to me that trying to have a conversation with you is pointless, as you're obviously not retaining a thing being said besides what you're saying yourself. To anyone who IS listening, again, I'm simply espousing the courage to give strangers a chance before judging them.
 





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That is why you should lobby for better immigration laws. Change them.
Then deal with criminals by improving your system of justice. Change it.
Your method of hating on All immigrants is saddening.
In addition your repeated bigotry makes me sick and tired of your country and its issues on these forums.
You mean because you know that I'm right about your people? Yeah, I can udnerstand that, must feel though to live with that truth. So why dont you jip of of here? Noone forces you to read my threads yet something draws you here, it seems. You are a strange person, Desert. But you are right about one thing; thigns have to change and I have with 18% of the swedish people done what I can by voting on the party that would help us. I cant do any more than that, dont have the health or energy to.
 





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If you'd even attempted to listen to what I'm saying, you'd know I'm Canadian, as I've stated several times. If you'd been paying attention to recent American policy, you'd know- prior to massive public outcry- the Trump administration was wrangling up illegal immigrants in record numbers and detaining them for record durations, separating families in many cases indefinitely, a decision generally regarded by morally minded people as frighteningly authoritarian.

I'm not talking about cameras in parks. I'm talking about hacking your webcam, your cellphone, and all connected personal devices to track all your e-mails, all your text messages, your entire internet history, etc. The FRA in Sweden isn't even allowed to initiate surveillance without government assignment. The NSA is monitoring everybody, all the time. There's a pretty big difference.


Yeah, fuck these guys:




THIS is the real thing:

It's entirely clear to me that trying to have a conversation with you is pointless, as you're obviously not retaining a thing being said besides what you're saying yourself. To anyone who IS listening, again, I'm simply espousing the courage to give strangers a chance before judging them.
You know its funny because I was about to type the same thing myself, that we're getting nowhere with this debate since our opinions are so different, yet your country voted Trump in, just like I would have if I lived there, so it seems he must have done SOMETHING right, doesnt it? besides this he has been asked to run since the 80's. He declined and said that if noone were to stand up and fix this mess, he'd run, and so, he did. And now we can see why: he got nothing but shit for it. I could only wish we could have such a president as Trump in this country. The US is damn lucky that way.

I also agree that the surveillence in the states IS too much and creepy as hell but thats because of the elite and I'm sure this will come all over the world.

And I actually DO listen to your opinions, I just highly disagree with them. A lefty and a righty discussing will never turn into anything because we are on the opposite side of the scale. You see, the way I seem to you is the way you seem to me; The complete opposite.

Yet, I wish you well, my friend! :)
 





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I think it's you who sound more like Hitler than and of all of us that vote SD. Your values and ideologies seem..Off. And the worst part is that you cant even see it yourself.

All we want is our peaceful country back and to stop the crimes and destruction . If you consider that to be s a nazi then theres something wrong with the way you think.

Ps: Aaand the crime continues. Now Europol and Frontex has arrested two criminals here. Life with all the immigrants is GREAT!

https://www.hd.se/2018-09-14/europol-slog-till-i-malmo-och-helsingborg-tva-personer (In swedish though)

Oooh and a lok at EUROPOLS site tells of this:

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/germany-and-sweden-take-action-against-cyber-fraud-gang

With the support of Europol and Frontex, two suspects were arrested on 12 September in a series of coordinated raids across Germany and Sweden in an investigation targeting a Syrian organised crime group suspected of cyber fraud. House searches were carried out in Aachen, Dortmund and Essen (Germany), and in Nörrköping, Malmö and Helsingborg (Sweden), where police recovered some EUR 54 000 and USD 55 000. The arrestees are believed to be the key organisers of a cyber fraud gang.

Thats RACIST of Europol to write! Syrians are so peaceful, they cant possibly be criminals! ..or can they?
How have I ever sounded like Hitler? How am I off?

You are obviously consumed by hate and falling hook line and sinker for the plan, which is again to revive fascism by using fear of immigration.

Do you deny that SD was founded in white supremacy, fascism and Neo-Nazism? Because it was.
 





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You know its funny because I was about to type the same thing myself, that we're getting nowhere with this debate since our opinions are so different, yet your country voted Trump in, just like I would have if I lived there, so it seems he must have done SOMETHING right, doesnt it? besides this he has been asked to run since the 80's. He declined and said that if noone were to stand up and fix this mess, he'd run, and so, he did. And now we can see why: he got nothing but shit for it. I could only wish we could have such a president as Trump in this country. The US is damn lucky that way.

I also agree that the surveillence in the states IS too much and creepy as hell but thats because of the elite and I'm sure this will come all over the world.

And I actually DO listen to your opinions, I just highly disagree with them. A lefty and a righty discussing will never turn into anything because we are on the opposite side of the scale. You see, the way I seem to you is the way you seem to me; The complete opposite.

Yet, I wish you well, my friend! :)
He actually lost by millions of votes, he’s only President because of an outdated electoral system and he’s a master at White Identity Politics and Fear. Not to mention a whole series of events that led to his victory that there isn’t enough time to go into.
 





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You are a strange person, Desert. But you are right about one thing; thigns have to change and I have with 18% of the swedish people done what I can by voting on the party that would help us. I cant do any more than that, dont have the health or energy to.
Yeah I must be strange to your mindset.
I refuse to hate entire peoples.
I would prefer to not alienate decent people whether they are western or eastern.
I realize the majority are not in control.
We walk different paths. I will pray for you.
 





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And I actually DO listen to your opinions, I just highly disagree with them. A lefty and a righty discussing will never turn into anything because we are on the opposite side of the scale. You see, the way I seem to you is the way you seem to me; The complete opposite.
If you'd even attempted to listen to what I'm saying, you'd know I'm Canadian, as I've stated several times.
yet your country voted Trump in
lol, dude, I AM CANADIAN. We've been through this now like, three times. My country increasingly hates Trump, as he's abruptly decided Canada is a grave threat to America's national security, and thus must be 'ruined'.

Living in fear of strangers is a choice. I sincerely hope you fall in love with a beautiful Persian girl, feel like a complete asshole for a solid week, then live happily ever after.

P.S., I imagine this is you in Sweden and chuckle.
 





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How have I ever sounded like Hitler? How am I off?

You are obviously consumed by hate and falling hook line and sinker for the plan, which is again to revive fascism by using fear of immigration.

Do you deny that SD was founded in white supremacy, fascism and Neo-Nazism? Because it was.
I dont hate anyone, I just want to be able to live in peace in my country like we all used to before this massive imigration. I'm not against migration as it was: We have no problem with the yugoslavians, the greeks, the gypsies, the chinese, the vietnamese and so on. Its ONLY the arabc acting like this, NO other group.

It doesnt really matter how SD were formed imo, all that matters is that theyre the only party who actually wants to end this horrible ordeal and save whats left of our country. I find it quite strange to talk about with someone who hasnt even been to this country or seen what it used to be like compared to now. It looks horrible with filthy streets and all arabic stores down town, when it used to be so clean and blooming. I weep for our cities.

Its funny how you tell me I seemed "consumed with hate" when you talk so hateful yourself. Its like talking to someone on a much lower level that I simply cannot come through for. I've told you already we dont se eye to eye and that its pointless to keep arguing over it, yet you continue.

And I surely hope I DO NOT "fall in love with a persian girl" since that would be homosexuality and I am not homosexual. LOL!

now just accept that I'm done speaking to you and stop blabbering. We just have to agree to disagree.
 





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Yeah I must be strange to your mindset.
I refuse to hate entire peoples.
I would prefer to not alienate decent people whether they are western or eastern.
I realize the majority are not in control.
We walk different paths. I will pray for you.
Uhm, please dont pray for me to Allah, that goes against my blieves. :)

You refuse to hate enitre people..yeah but hating white people in a forum is okay? Interesting.
 





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You refuse to hate enitre people..yeah but hating white people in a forum is okay? Interesting.
Kindly do not make stuff up.
If a person treats other human beings with dignity and decency and fights to uplift others they are 'my people'.
My people are comprised of all the colors of the world. Our path teaches universal brotherhood.
In addition, Muslims are multi-ethnic.
Ultimately, your hatreds only color your life and your experiences (no pun intended:))
Life is too short to cut ourselves from other decent beings.
Here is my mindset: #241
 





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If the following observations had been made by Trump, there would be uproar...

The Dalai Lama says 'Europe belongs to Europeans' and refugees should return to their native countries to rebuild them
By Bhvishya Patel For Mailonline and Afp15:32, 12 Sep 2018, updated 16:59, 13 Sep 2018


  • Dalai Lama was speaking at a conference in Sweden's third-largest city of Malmö
  • He said Europe was 'morally responsible' for helping those fleeing their countries, but ultimately refugees should 'develop their own country'
  • His words come after far-right populist party Sweden Democrats made gains in the country's general election
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6159933/Dalai-Lama-says-Europe-belongs-Europeans.html
 





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@starviego
Hey genius, why are you placing my quote under Mr. Grieves name?
That is a reference to the path of Muslims in their faith. We are for universal brotherhood and have not benefited from disunity.
9/11, the wars and your immigration policies are by Israel and its supporters.(That can be backed up.)
Yet, you tough guys only know how to confront those who are not in control of these issues.
You will undermine your countries with the hatred and division and lose the little bit of peace you have left.
Nothing wrong for all countries to set their their immigration issues however being cruel, hateful and divisive is always a wrong strategy.