Suicide & Euthanasia

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If there is a positive answer there, let me know.
If life has a purpose (clearly many of us do believe so) and one is unable to even live the most basic aspects of life, let alone serve that purpose - then keeping them alive becomes immoral.
Why would it be immoral? What basic aspects are ya talking about?

The thing with euthanasia is that the dichotomy is horrific either way: Excess of suffering vs Death.
I think it’s the fear of suffering that brings many people to think death is the answer when maybe that isn’t the answer. Just because people do it to pets doesn’t mean that it’s ok for people. Idk if it’s ok for pets, but then I haven’t had to make such a decision.

In many situations, I can't blame the person committing Suicide, sometimes people are backed into a corner.
What do you mean?

Just think, you have one minute to convince a person that life is worth living, what do you even say?
Why do you narrow it down to a minute? To prove it’s hopeless?
 





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Why would it be immoral? What basic aspects are ya talking about?
Being able to walk, talk, learn, love, very much basic aspects of life. What many would call "rights". Yes or no?
Immoral because if life has meaning and a purpose and if there is no way for them to fulfill that meaning and purpose - then restricting them the choice to end their life is immoral.

I think it’s the fear of suffering that brings many people to think death is the answer when maybe that isn’t the answer. Just because people do it to pets doesn’t mean that it’s ok for people. Idk if it’s ok for pets, but then I haven’t had to make such a decision.
I really have no clue what you are waffling on about here.

What do you mean?
Exactly what I said. Some people become mentally, emotionally, spiritually backed into a corner (even if other people do not observe the inner conflict), which leads to the idea of suicide not only being favorable to the person but a necessity. I don't blame these people because the world is a shitty place and not everybody lives a life that they themselves feel is worth living.

Why do you narrow it down to a minute? To prove it’s hopeless?
This reply is both an example of small thinking and evidence of why it is so important to think about. The fact I said one minute and not a year, is to show how little people do indeed lack contemplation about this topic, which is again, never pleasant on any side.
As I also said, the topic itself extends beyond just suicide and euthanasia to the very fundamental reason you, I or someone else actually rationalizes to themselves that this life we are living is worth living in the first place, and not merely as an extreme reaction to something but as a daily self-knowledge.
 





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I understand people who are healthy and feel life is beautiful, I was well for three weeks once so I get it. But if they knew the extent of how far suffering can go in this world, and all the suffering you dont see.. Noone sees my suffering so people treat me as if I was well when I like right now feel as if my legs will fold and I'll fall right down. It's just no way to live to long for death every waking second of the day. (And no, not after sympathy although I see it sounds like bohoo fel sorry for me, just wanted to express my situation)
 





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I understand people who are healthy and feel life is beautiful, I was well for three weeks once so I get it. But if they knew the extent of how far suffering can go in this world, and all the suffering you dont see.. Noone sees my suffering so people treat me as if I was well when I like right now feel as if my legs will fold and I'll fall right down. It's just no way to live to long for death every waking second of the day. (And no, not after sympathy although I see it sounds like bohoo fel sorry for me, just wanted to express my situation)
I don’t think boohoo feel sorry for you, thanks for giving your opinion. I’m sorry for your suffering, I really am. I still don’t like the euthanasia thing though which doesn’t mean that I don’t care about your suffering, I just don’t think that euthanasia is God’s plan for people and as a Christian I can’t endorse it.
 





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Being able to walk, talk, learn, love, very much basic aspects of life. What many would call "rights". Yes or no?
Immoral because if life has meaning and a purpose and if there is no way for them to fulfill that meaning and purpose - then restricting them the choice to end their life is immoral.
Would not having that make something immoral? Maybe you don’t have the right word? I don’t think encouraging death is moral if that’s what you mean.
I think of people with Down’s syndrome, people like to think they don’t have a good life, but they don’t seem to mind the life they have. So, I kinda wonder if that’s what the problem really is..people don’t think they can have a life if their life changes from what they know it, but maybe they can learn to have a life anyway? Life is what you make of it?

I really have no clue what you are waffling on about here.
I was thinking that we get this idea that we should end peoples suffering because we think its ok to end our pets suffering by killing them...

Exactly what I said. Some people become mentally, emotionally, spiritually backed into a corner (even if other people do not observe the inner conflict), which leads to the idea of suicide not only being favorable to the person but a necessity. I don't blame these people because the world is a shitty place and not everybody lives a life that they themselves feel is worth living.
Very often life gets better...they shouldn’t think that suicide is the best answer and people shouldn’t encourage that thinking either.

As I also said, the topic itself extends beyond just suicide and euthanasia to the very fundamental reason you, I or someone else actually rationalizes to themselves that this life we are living is worth living in the first place, and not merely as an extreme reaction to something but as a daily self-knowledge.
I think that people like to rationalize that life isn’t worth living and that somehow the next life, or life in heaven is much better, when they don’t know enough about God or the next life to make a decision like that. Its fantasy they are after.