Straight Pride Parade-Boston

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Like most LGBTQP apologists, you move the goalpost when you clearly said “kids”.

As far as the “P”, it already exists:

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I said kids since I have been a teenage myself for over a decade. I consider teenagers kids. 'cause teenagers are kids. There is no goalpost shifting, Maybe I should have explicitly said teenagers, since you tend to jump on any damn chance to try to make LGBT people out to be pedophiles... But highsight.

Fringe movements are not part of the whole and just because someone claims to be part of the movement doesn't mean they are. There isn't an anarchist that would recognize an anarcho-capitalist as a comrade... And I don't know any gay people who think p***philia is okay.
 





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That reinforces the reasons why folks have pride parades. Marginalization.
I’d rather a parade not be about sexual preference honestly, when I was growing up we had parades about the county fair, haha now that seems quaint doesn’t it?

I don’t get the whole pride thing either, why must someone have pride because they are homosexual? I think...and this is my personal opinion that people like that who need parades or want other people to shut up about what they are doing aren’t really as comfortable or proud about their lives as they would like people to think. I think that there is a part of them that knows that what they are doing is wrong and wishes they could silence that part of themselves but if they can’t, if they can get other people to silence their objection maybe they would feel better about what they do. The problem is that even if the whole world says its great and ok...God is the one that says its not, they will never win.
 





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I said kids since I have been a teenage myself for over a decade. I consider teenagers kids. 'cause teenagers are kids. There is no goalpost shifting, Maybe I should have explicitly said teenagers, since you tend to jump on any damn chance to try to make LGBT people out to be pedophiles... But highsight.

Fringe movements are not part of the whole and just because someone claims to be part of the movement doesn't mean they are. There isn't an anarchist that would recognize an anarcho-capitalist as a comrade... And I don't know any gay people who think p***philia is okay.
Just because you don’t personally know any homos who openly support p***philia, that doesn’t mean they don’t.

And that certainly does not mean there aren’t any who do....there is plenty of proof that many openly do.
 





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Just because you don’t personally know any homos who openly support p***philia, that doesn’t mean they don’t.

And that certainly does not mean there aren’t any who do....there is plenty of proof that many openly do.
Here's the thing. When you post anything that agrees with your worldview, just because it agrees with your worldview, you end up looking like a bigot who doesn't really give one shit about youth. For example this image...

That white pride image? Made me scratch my head. And then I noticed it was called clover... Being internet savvy, I know what the clover represents. So I google "clovergendered". Came up with a snopes article... With this little image in it.

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It's also on Know Your Meme and Encylopedia Dramatica, two websites that collect troll/propaganda attempts from 4chan, if you don't trust Snopes as a source. Basically, you got punked by far-right (or nihilistic) internet trolls who decided to use the internet to make the lives of LGBT people a little harder.

Do. Research. Stop believing the first thing you see on whatever anti-LGBT facebook page you get those images from.
 





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I’d rather a parade not be about sexual preference honestly, when I was growing up we had parades about the county fair, haha now that seems quaint doesn’t it?

I don’t get the whole pride thing either, why must someone have pride because they are homosexual? I think...and this is my personal opinion that people like that who need parades or want other people to shut up about what they are doing aren’t really as comfortable or proud about their lives as they would like people to think. I think that there is a part of them that knows that what they are doing is wrong and wishes they could silence that part of themselves but if they can’t, if they can get other people to silence their objection maybe they would feel better about what they do. The problem is that even if the whole world says its great and ok...God is the one that says its not, they will never win.
Do you understand what it's like to feel marginalized? To feel you're powerless, that the world doesn't care about you, and wouldn't blink an eye of you died? Do you know what it's like to get kicked out of your house because your parents "didn't raise no freak"? Do you know what it's like to see people like you murdered, and their killers get off or get reduced sentences because of a "gay (trans) panic"?

That's what it's for. It's no different than when workers marched for their rights or when blacks did - and still do. Society needs to treat all people as equals.

And if homosexuality is a sin, that's between gays and God. Not gays and you or gays and Uncle Sam.
 





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Do you understand what it's like to feel marginalized? To feel you're powerless, that the world doesn't care about you, and wouldn't blink an eye of you died? Do you know what it's like to get kicked out of your house because your parents "didn't raise no freak"? Do you know what it's like to see people like you murdered, and their killers get off or get reduced sentences because of a "gay (trans) panic"?

That's what it's for. It's no different than when workers marched for their rights or when blacks did - and still do. Society needs to treat all people as equals.

And if homosexuality is a sin, that's between gays and God. Not gays and you or gays and Uncle Sam.
Of course I know what its like to feel like the world doesn’t care about me and wouldn’t blink in eye if I died...didn’t make me want to go and have a parade and parade myself around to get some attention...

You act like they are the only people who have suffered in life...give me a break. Everyone has a heartbreaking story. Everyone. In. The. World. Has. Problems! No one comes through this life without problems..

So, I still don’t understand the pride thing. What does the parade have to do with pride?

Well, how will the homosexuals know that God considers homosexuality a sin if we Christians don’t tell them? God uses Christians to tell people what sin is about and also to let them know what we found out, that there is good news to go along with the bad news about sin and that’s Jesus who died for our sins.
 





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People aren't killed for being straight... people aren't disowned by their parents and families for being straight, no one tries to force people not to be straight, people aren't labeled pedophiles for being straight, they were never arrested for being straight, it was never illegal to be straight, people didn't have to fight for equal rights to be straight, they were never rounded up by the nazis for being straight. The only reason gay pride parades exist is because gay people have been treated as lesser and told that they should not be okay with who they are. They had to fight for equal treatment. That's why gay people go to their parades and show that they won't be shamed for who they are, they are not afraid to be themselves in a world that tells them they should be.

Those 3 guys can have a straight pride parade if they want but it doesn't make much sense. It's always been seen as a good thing to be straight, straight people are seen as the default. The lead organizer of this three man parade is Mark Sahady. Mark Sahady is a well known member of violent neo-nazi hate groups like Patriot Front, American Guard, and the Proud Boys. And for him and people like him, the things they do are never in good faith... A "straight pride parade" is never a harmless gathering where they are simply proud and happy with who they are... they're doing it to troll everyone, they're doing it out of spite and malice for the LGBT community. I wouldn't want to gather with a neo-nazi like Sahady for any reason... and I'm secure enough in myself that I don't need a parade just because other people have one. If it was in good faith, then I really wouldn't mind or care... but it never is.
 





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People aren't killed for being straight... people aren't disowned by their parents and families for being straight, no one tries to force people not to be straight, people aren't labeled pedophiles for being straight, they were never arrested for being straight, it was never illegal to be straight, people didn't have to fight for equal rights to be straight, they were never rounded up by the nazis for being straight. The only reason gay pride parades exist is because gay people have been treated as lesser and told that they should not be okay with who they are. They had to fight for equal treatment. That's why gay people go to their parades and show that they won't be shamed for who they are, they are not afraid to be themselves in a world that tells them they should be.

Those 3 guys can have a straight pride parade if they want but it doesn't make much sense. It's always been seen as a good thing to be straight, straight people are seen as the default. The lead organizer of this three man parade is Mark Sahady. Mark Sahady is a well known member of violent neo-nazi hate groups like Patriot Front and American Guard. And for him and people like him, the things they do are never in good faith... A "straight pride parade" is never a harmless gathering where they are simply proud and happy with who they are... they're doing it to troll everyone, they're doing it out of spite and malice for the LGBT community. I wouldn't want to gather with a neo-nazi like Sahady for any reason... and I'm secure enough in myself that I don't need a parade just because other people have one. If it was in good faith, then I really wouldn't mind or care... but it never is.
Please...people get killed, people get disowned by families, people get labels they don’t deserve all the time. Jews were rounded up by the nazi’s just for being Jewish..so what’s your point?
They can do what most people do...shake it off and move on. Don’t you think its a little odd they want to be known for their sexual orientation? Why not be known for something else?

If people can have a gay pride parade, then why not a straight pride parade? Are homosexuals not then just treating those people like they’ve always said they were treated? And..these people are willing to have a joint parade...the inclusion the homosexuals are looking for are just a parade away?
 





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Please...people get killed, people get disowned by families, people get labels they don’t deserve all the time. Jews were rounded up by the nazi’s just for being Jewish..so what’s your point?
Yep, but not for being straight. The reason gay pride parades exist is because gay people are and were treated wrong simply for being gay. This did not happen to straight people.
They can do what most people do...shake it off and move on.
Lol, how do you "shake off" the removal of your basic civil rights?
If people can have a gay pride parade, then why not a straight pride parade?
You can have a straight pride parade, but as I said it doesn't make much sense. If it was truly in good faith and not organized by a neo-nazi then I wouldn't care. Unfortunately, these kinds of things are seemingly always in bad faith. I also doubt many people will show up.
And..these people are willing to have a joint parade...the inclusion the homosexuals are looking for are just a parade away?
Those people are trolls and I would never take a neo-nazi at their word... And just so you know, straight people march in gay pride parades all the time as allys. Straight people are already included and they all celebrate together because they are genuinely supportive of each other.
 





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Yep, but not for being straight. The reason gay pride parades exist is because gay people are and were treated wrong simply for being gay. This did not happen to straight people.

Lol, how do you "shake off" the removal of your basic civil rights?

You can have a straight pride parade, but as I said it doesn't make much sense. If it was truly in good faith and not organized by a neo-nazi then I wouldn't care. Unfortunately, these kinds of things are seemingly always in bad faith. I also doubt many people will show up.

Those people are trolls and I would never take a neo-nazi at their word... And just so you know, straight people march in gay pride parades all the time as allys. Straight people are already included and they all celebrate together because they are genuinely supportive of each other.
People get treated wrongly all the time whether they be straight or not homosexuals don’t have the last word on wrong treatment.

How is how you have sex a basic civil right?

Well, I have no idea how many people will show up, but shouldn’t they also be able to have a parade too if they want?
 





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I hope you feel the same way about all those people getting up in arms about Confederate statues getting torn down. If you do... Great. And I mean that, unironically.
But I'm also aware that some people, especially those who are disenfranchised and marginalized, often need something so they feel stronger.

we covered the statue tear-downs. its erasing and rewriting history. all my points are in the thread:
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/confederate-soldier-statues.1224/


LGBT kids who want a hero to look up to? Whether they are historical figures or fictional characters, people tend to like heroes they can relate to. Identity plays a part in relatability.
kids or ANYONE should look up to people, not a sexuality. gender and identity politics are the problem. can you not see how divisive it is?

We're living in a mad world, but personally, gay pride parades aren't even in my top ten of "crazy things in the modern world". I mean you want to hear something really batty? We produce enough food to feed the planet, yet there's still starvation. Or how about how oil companies have such a stranglehold on the global economy, we won't break away from fossil fuels and work find alternative fuel sources? Or how about how war, the act of murdering human beings in mass, is a very good business to get into?
so because there are other issues in the world, we should ignore this one? why should straight people not be allowed or feel guilty about their own parade? yes, its a mad society when being normal and heterosexual is no longer acceptable.
who would have thought, even 20 years ago, that to be a heterosexual would be the epitome of the counterculture? <shakes head>


You could, you know, embrace those differences. I've met all sorts of people in my life from all different walks of life and my life is better because of it. Since I actively tried to understand where people are coming from and those people actively tried to understand me... We all grew as people.
"hi, i understand you identify as a intersex 7 year old cat-man who uses the 'meow-meow' pronoun."
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look, if people want to have their psycho-sexual delusions, go for it! go identify as a cat-man or lion-o or if some 48 year old identifies as a 7 year old girl. more power to them. but there is no way, zero, none that i will be forced to stoop down to their level of lunacy and play along with their mental psychoses, be it cat humanism or trans nonbinary... whatevers.


The world would be pretty boring if we were all the same.
is that a reason for creating 1x10^8 genders? so we can be more "diverse"? this is the same groupthink that swayed millions of idiotic young people to get tattoos these days. "oh, look how different and unique i am-- i have a tribal tattoo!" great. an ink blot on your skin made all the difference in setting you apart from everyone else. the same logic applies to genders.
no one needs to try to be different. theres NOTHING wrong with being yourself.
 





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How is how you have sex a basic civil right?
Because you should be able to do whatever you want in the privacy of your bedroom, granted you are a consenting adult with another consenting adult. No one has the right to determine what you should do with your body or your sexuality.

Would you like the government to check if you're doing it right?
 





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Because you should be able to do whatever you want in the privacy of your bedroom, granted you are a consenting adult with another consenting adult. No one has the right to determine what you should do with your body or your sexuality.

Would you like the government to check if you're doing it right?
Perhaps if they had kept it silent what they were doing...no one would know. But, they didn’t want to keep that silent and now we have to have parades reminding us what they do? I mean, why? I think its less about people who don’t like what they do and more about how they feel about what they do.
 





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A parade to celebrate Christians.
It would be interesting to see people's reaction.
If the majority of Christians happens to be black, people will say "they parade for their Afro Gospel culture, it's awesome!".

If the majority of Christians happens to be white, people will react saying "They want a theocracy, we must fight them to keep our rights!".

A week a later, you'll have a muslim parade and people will say "it's good for people to be proud of their identity, let's put a scarf to show our support"

I mean, a straight parade composed of white people is the deus ex machina of PC culture to scream 'fascism' ect... This century sucks
 





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It would be interesting to see people's reaction.
If the majority of Christians happens to be black, people will say "they parade for their Afro Gospel culture, it's awesome!".

If the majority of Christians happens to be white, people will react saying "They want a theocracy, we must fight them to keep our rights!".

A week a later, you'll have a muslim parade and people will say "it's good for people to be proud of their identity, let's put a scarf to show our support"

I mean, a straight parade composed of white people is the deus ex machina of PC culture to scream 'fascism' ect... This century sucks
Would you attend a Christian parade?

I appreciate your commentary but I have a reason for asking this specific question.