Stand With Ukraine? No Thanks. Business As Usual.

FilthPig

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The US establishment has everything to gain by destabilizing Russia's relationship with the EU, including ending the NS2 project that Germany spent billions on.
Im too lazy at the moment to dig up some sources but from several leaked E-mails from Bidenites and others it seems that one of the plan was to push out russia from EU energy market.Seems the Bidens wanted to take over the gas market of EU with Ukraines Burisma ( what Burisma did was they bought up gas produced by ukrainians and then sold it back to ukrainian people with double the price).Before the war Putin was making more than billion euros every day just by selling gas to EU.No wonder someone else wants a piece of that pie ,or all of it .
The other thing is that Corporation of America is hopelessly in dept and some sort of payment date was supposed to come at 30 sept.
It seems with both covid scam and with this ukraine war they have been laundering shitton of money to themselves to save themselves from bankruptcy.If large part of the world stops using petrodollar then it might be fatal for USA. It is quite sickening that USA just keeps pulling endless amount of money out of its ass and everybody have to accept it or they end up like Gaddaffi or Hussein.Now Putin and Xi are babbling about their own NWO where countries dont have to be bossed around by some tiny western elite and quite many countries are listening.
Put at the same time Putin is pushing covid scam and bug-eating in russia so that would hint he is an puppet.

Some say that one reason for the war in Afganistan was because afgans were making plans to build several pipelines through their country that would connect russia to several middle eastern countries.It would have been very useful for russia, not useful at all for USA.
Same with Syria - Saudis want to build a pipeline through Syria that would reach Mediterranean sea. Would make exporting oil to EU so much easier.
Just gotta get rid off Assad first .And that would be easier to do if Russia is cut off from Syria ( main military supply line to Syria goes from black sea/crimea,one of the reasons they tried to take away russian navy base in Sevastopol after the Maidan).Russia ofc didnt let it happen .
 
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In may USA was doing some military exercise in the area where pipelines exploded..
"The military exercise, Defender-Europe 2022, will shed some light on how long it might take to secure the maritime area around Bornholm. It will also send a strong signal to the Russians, the defence minister, Morten Bødskov, told TV2. "
 

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I guess one purpose for this "referendum" is to change the narrative for russians. Nobody wants to be the bad guy and the agressor so now Putin can cry that Russian territory is under attack by Ukraine and NATO and act accordingly. Pretend its a defensive war instead of offensive one.
If you genuinely believe Putin simply woke up angry and started to bomb, i'm afraid I have to say you've been misinformed and been absorbing too much minitrue propaganda from our beloved media outlets.
When you pay attention and try to look at how this Azov battalion became this influent in Ukraine leading to Odessa's Massacre in 2014 and shelling of russian speaking civilians up until now with the Russian Invasion, it's really not as simple as 'the good guy' against 'the bad guy'.
I'm not gonna argue whether preemptive defense is an aggression or not because that's beside the point and, let's be honest, the west is okay with that when it comes to Israel-Palestine.

Give The Grand Chessboard by Zbigniew Brzeziński a read, this book first published in 1997 later revised in 2016 says all the relevant stuff you need to know about this situation, if of course, you're really willing to know why this invasion turned proxy-war with NATO military equipements and NordStream false flag(in my opinion) happens right now.

The Grand Chessboard, renowned geostrategist Zbigniew Brzezinski delivers a brutally honest and provocative vision for American preeminence in the twenty-first century. The task facing the United States, he argues, is to become the sole political arbiter in EurAsian lands and to prevent the emergence of any rival power threatening our material and diplomatic interests. The EurAsian landmass, home to the greatest part of the globe's population, natural resources, and economic activity, is the "grand chessboard" on which America's supremacy will be ratified and challenged in the years to come. In this landmark work of public policy and political science, Brzezinski outlines a groundbreaking and powerful blueprint for America's vital interests in the modern world. In a revised edition with a new epilogue, Brzezinski brings his seminal work up to date with commentary on the latest global developments, including the war in Ukraine, the re-emergence of Russia, and the rise of China
Ukraine is an “important space on the Eurasian chessboard”, the control of which is supposed to make a domination over the world possible


There you see why the US behind NATO's umbrella is injecting billions in this war proving they're clearly willing to put world peace at stake over Ukraine which is a country few Americans were able to put in a world map before this year.

I'm honestly waiting to see how Iran and Israel(now treating wounded Ukrainian soldiers apparently) come into play before arguing it's matching gog v magog prophecy all I can say is it looks like the control of the post-covid new world order is getting decided over Ukraine now and possibly Taïwan later when China finally strikes.


What do people make of the referendum vote in the 4 (former haha) Ukrainian provinces? RT is reporting 99% voted to join Russia. I don't think it changes much of the current military positions but long term this will increase the potential for heightened conflict. I'm happy for the Donbass but frustrated it will only encourage further militarism, possibly direct attacks from the UNSC/NATO
Russian annexation coupled with the Nord Stream false flag means the sanctions are here to stay and quite frankly unless either side admits defeat, I have no idea how it can't escalate knowing the annexed regions represents a valuable part of Ukraine's GDP. Russia is left with no good reason to stop aswell even though sanctions possibly gets lifted as they can't pressure Europe/NATO to stop sending more weapons now that they are unable to use gas supply as leverage.
 

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0:23 to 2:12.

quick summary:
putin addresses the world, saying that he knows his words will be twisted, but wants to say that he is doing this to help his countrymen. he is not deliberately trying to create supply problems, and of course he did not destroy the pipeline himself. [is MSM accusing him of this?]
he says that the nazis won WW2-- and they are running our countries. he says that weve been told propaganda by our satanic leaders and that everything is a scam-- they are lying to us.
 

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Dang didn't realize they had time travel tech....back to ww2 u don't say ;)
Well in a way WW2 never ended/concluded . Japan and Russia havent still signed a peace treaty because of the Kuril Islands.
"The U.S. maintains that until a peace treaty between Japan and Russia is concluded, the disputed Northern Territories remain occupied territory under Russian control via General Order No. 1.According to the Russian Embassy in Japan, "A peace treaty has not yet been concluded between the two countries, due to Tokyo's groundless territorial claims to the southern Kuril Islands."
 
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Previous relevant-to-topic posts i'd made in the sept 24 thread

What sources are saying putin, the MSM? The ministry of truth?

At least some Germans seem to think it was US...

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Russia seems to have a motive: inflict long-term pain on Europe for sending lethal arms to Ukraine. But Russia didn’t need to blow up the pipelines. Russia controls the valves that send or halt gas flow to Europe, and she’s already turned off the spigot. Russia paid for a portion of the pipeline and expects to resume profitable energy exports to Europe once the war with Ukraine settles. Why would Russia cut off its own nose?

That leaves the US. What are its motives?

First, the US became the number one exporter of liquified natural gas to Europe once Russia cut off the flow. German dependence on US LNG is a carrot to keep German in the sanction alliance. With winter approaching and German unrest on the rise, the State Department would have been concerned the Germans would go wobbly, reduce sanctions, cut off arms to Ukraine, and beg Putin for energy. The loss of the Nord Stream pipelines eliminates that path to renewed gas imports to Germany.

Second, the Biden family has long been tangled up in natural gas and Ukraine. Hunter Biden was on the board of Ukraine’s largest natural gas company—a position that provided Ukrainian oligarchs with access to Joe Biden. Hunter, who has no experience in energy, made millions from the deal, and Ukraine got a bought-and-paid-for President of the United States.

Third, the Democrat Biden needs to stanch the popularity bleeding that threatens to kill Democrat control of Congress come November.

So, only the United States has a compelling reason to destroy Europe’s energy lifeline from Russia. Only the United States has both the means and the motive.


How convenient that trump is ready to step in and work out a peace plan!

 
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Russian pipelines to germany in the baltic sea are leaking ,3 out of 4 of them. There have been reports of explosions. Not sure what is going on ,if someone sabotaged it or russians just pumped up the pressure over critical limit on purpose to blow the pipelines . Those pipelines are the spine of germans energy and industry . No planes or ships are allowed to the region.Putin might use it as an excuse to bring more of his navy to the baltic sea to "protect the pipeline" (or prepare for WW2).
"Seismic stations in Sweden, Norway and Finland registered two explosions Monday near the leaks. "
CIA blew up Nord stream pipelines to blame Russia and so EU buy natural gas from USA?
 
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Meanwhile in California I am seeing $7.00 a gallon gas. Which makes me think the mid term election is totally rigged because in the past they would make the price of gas go down before an election now they don't even care. Ukraine war paying high dividends to everyone but the average American.
 

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Senator Blinken


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anthony blinken: Russia sabotaging it's own pipeline is a tremendous opportunity to remove the dependence on Russian energy

"tremendous opportunity"... like covid lockdowns for climate change/green energy and WEF agendas.
 

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Ah ok it was 3 days ago it went stealth,now they spotted it again.
 
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Instead of thinking about nuclear stuff why doesn't Russia send in their version of Israel's Mossad and bump Zelensky off once and for all. One way or another he has to go. Where the hell did this cokehead come from anyway. Some crappy comedian who dresses up as a woman getting rich off this war and owning mansions in Florida and elsewhere? Definitely a member of the Biden crime family. He is worse than Hunter but at least he isn't dumb enough to leave his laptops at a computer repair shop. Until Zelensky is bumped off I refuse to believe anything about the Ukraine war is even real.
 

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Ya Know I thought there was no rules
to war,that Ya do what needs be done
to take the country/area Ya want

so why is this like a knock off game of risk
where it's not about domination but splitting
Us all up into neatly manageable populations
because it's already all dominated by the same
group it's the Peoples that need to be dominated
again now

 
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