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Rufus McKenzie

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Is Fuentes even a neo-Nazi though? Something tells me that actual Nazis would see him as little more than a convenient, disposable tool.
No it’s not exactly National Socialism with arm bands and goose stepping but it’s pretty close. Ideologies evolve and advance. It’s close to it on the spectrum and would yield similar horrors.
 

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I think there is evil on everyside
now a days
We know there is innocents on both sides
that are dying,being murdered,being tricked into
murdering for someone else's gains
I don't care one iota for the governments involved
but my heart does hurt for those who are being
used right now for this crap

when will we start telling
those PTB to kiss our butts
if ya wanna take that chunk of dirt then do it
but it's your blood ya can shed for payment of
it instead of ours
 

Rufus McKenzie

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Which makes it even more ironic that you literally have Nazis on both sides of the conflict.

They must be confused as to which side to support, but ultimately they will go with Putin.

The Azov battalion has no influence outside of Ukraine.

Alexander Dugin on the other hand.
And Dugin is where you get the Putinist left that we talk about with GG/Grayzone types.
 

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No it’s not exactly National Socialism with arm bands and goose stepping but it’s pretty close. Ideologies evolve and advance. It’s close to it on the spectrum and would yield similar horrors.
I just think real Nazis would see those people as weak and compromised, but useful and disposable.
 

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I just think real Nazis would see those people as weak and compromised, but useful and disposable.
Honestly I think that’s true, but it will be the other way around. It’s a hard sell on straight Nazism for most people. It’s the more intellectual types who will use the nazi street gangs and such as shock troops and then turn on them in the end.
 
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I just think real Nazis would see those people as weak and compromised, but useful and disposable.
they have propagandists for every demographic they are trying to reach.

Fuentes is for the incel/disaffected angry white YOUTH who are woke to Zionism

then you have the Greenwald, Jimmy Dore types for the "independents" and leftist anti-imperialists

Joe Rogan for your average Joe not really into politics

Tucker Carlson for your run of the mill conservative

Alex Jones for your basement level right wing conspiracy theorists (a step up from Tucker)

all of them pushing one form or another of fascism, right wing populism, and ultimately straight Nazism.

Remember these people dont spend most of their energy preaching to their crowd, but trying to pick up new recruits. They dont even need to create full on Nazis. "Right wing populists" is good enough. They need soldiers but even more political supporters.
 

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they have propagandists for every demographic they are trying to reach.

Fuentes is for the incel/disaffected angry white YOUTH who are woke to Zionism

then you have the Greenwald, Jimmy Dore types for the "independents" and leftist anti-imperialists

Joe Rogan for your average Joe not really into politics

Tucker Carlson for your run of the mill conservative

Alex Jones for your basement level right wing conspiracy theorists (a step up from Tucker)

all of them pushing one form or another of fascism, right wing populism, and ultimately straight Nazism.

Remember these people dont spend most of their energy preaching to their crowd, but trying to pick up new recruits. They dont even need to create full on Nazis. "Right wing populists" is good enough. They need soldiers but even more political supporters.
Excellent analysis.
"Remember these people dont spend most of their energy preaching to their crowd, but trying to pick up new recruits."
As evidenced by both by the constant flip-flopping of this crowd and the attrition regarding some of their support once people start getting hep to the game.
 
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"Satanic New World Order" hmmm where have we heard that before ?

As I said before Russia is deeply involved in the entire "alt media" network supposedly "exposing the NWO" The entire fucking thing is being coordinated by the CNP, Russia, and Israel (the birthplace of Breitbart and outlets like GatewayPundit)

RussiaToday has literally hosted every single player in the "alt media" network

and mr. conspiracy Alex Jones himself was exposed by his ex wife for having a Russian Visa. The video on Youtube has been scrubbed I can no longer find it, but found this. Posted by his wife on twitter, she also mention Cambridge Analytica.





What would Alex Jones be doing in Russia ? Same thing as Max Blumenthal, Richard Spencer, General Flynn. Nothing to see here though, "Russiagate is a nothingburger" LOL.


This even ties back to the beginning of the conspiracy theory movement which began with the Russian Black Hundreds and their leaking of the fake documents "Protocols of Zion".

Russian fascists working with American fascists (Henry Ford) and Western intelligence who published the Protocols in English for a Western audience.

TBH I can see how the Russian soldiers would fall for the propganda that Putin was "standing up to the NWO" because NATO is a blatantly evil and sinister organization that has done nothing but agitate for war and invaded countries like Iraq and aFghanistan. It's easy for the Russians to fall for the "US BAD" narrative because it is essentially true.

That's also why people in the West who are woke to Western imperialism can fall for the PUTIN good narrative.
 
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"Satanic New World Order" hmmm where have we heard that before ?

As I said before Russia is deeply involved in the entire "alt media" network supposedly "exposing the NWO" The entire fucking thing is being coordinated by the CNP, Russia, and Israel (the birthplace of Breitbart and outlets like GatewayPundit)

RussiaToday has literally hosted every single player in the "alt media" network

and mr. conspiracy Alex Jones himself was exposed by his ex wife for having a Russian Visa. The video on Youtube has been scrubbed I can no longer find it, but found this. Posted by his wife on twitter, she also mention Cambridge Analytica.





What would Alex Jones be doing in Russia ? Same thing as Max Blumenthal, Richard Spencer, General Flynn. Nothing to see here though, "Russiagate is a nothingburger" LOL.


This even ties back to the beginning of the conspiracy theory movement which began with the Russian Black Hundreds and their leaking of the fake documents "Protocols of Zion".

Russian fascists working with American fascists (Henry Ford) and Western intelligence who published the Protocols in English for a Western audience.

TBH I can see how the Russian soldiers would fall for the propganda that Putin was "standing up to the NWO" because NATO is a blatantly evil and sinister organization that has done nothing but agitate for war and invaded countries like Iraq and aFghanistan. It's easy for the Russians to fall for the "US BAD" narrative because it is essentially true.

That's also why people in the West who are woke to Western imperialism can fall for the PUTIN good narrative.
All of that is correct.

I didn’t realize that about Jones, but yeah left or right “alt-media” Russia runs through it.

Guys like Greenwald and the greyzone crowd were slamming the Russia investigation harder than Trump loyalists. They devoted so much time into it.

Putin’s Russia, Dugin’s Russia,or what they envision it to be, is Russia if the Bolshevik revolution never happened.
 

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Who killed millions of people. Transparent leftists in this place are something else...
I don’t condone or support the godless Soviet Union but if they weren’t in charge of Russia during WW2 we’d all be living under the German reich right now. That’s assuming we didn’t get sent to an oven.

The Russian monarchy was one of the most brutal and evil forces that ever existed by the way.
 
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it is important to try and document what is happening.

this is an article from Max Blumenthal showing the links between the Jewish president of Ukraine and the Neo Nazi forces that seem to be a significant part of the military, even though the far right dont appear to have much political power, they do seem to have more influence in the armed forces.

Apparently Mariupol is being defended by the Azov battalion and other right wing paramilitaries, and there seems to be plenty of evidence of these thugs killing their own civilians as they try to flee.

Like I said I look at all sources to get a full picture.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/ukraine-jewish-president-zelensky-made-peace-neo-nazi-paramilitaries/279862/
 
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What I don't understand is that Russia is essentially a white country just like Uganda or the Congo are black countries. What is wrong with nationalism? If I lived in the Congo I would be a black nationalist and if I lived in Russia I would be a white nationalist. To me being a nationalist means the country you live in comes first. The alternative is globalism and I thought people on Vigilant Citizen forums were against globalism. I don't like the U.N. and they should be kicked out of the U.S. For example they betrayed the people of Rwanda which led to a lot of dead people. They are crooked and mean us no good.
 
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Honestly I think that’s true, but it will be the other way around. It’s a hard sell on straight Nazism for most people. It’s the more intellectual types who will use the nazi street gangs and such as shock troops and then turn on them in the end.
And what is the difference between Nazi street gangs and shock troops from Antifa and BLM? And please tell me how I am supposed to benefit from Bolsheviks which seems that some of you seem to be promoting.
 
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