Spiritual Formation: A Self-Centered Spiritualism?

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I remember that a few years ago, I was going through a checkout line at a grocery store when the few items I purchased rang up to $6.66. The cashier noticed the ominous numbers and gave a small gasp. When I asked her what she thought of that number, she responded, “I don’t know what it means, but I know it’s really bad!”

Christians through the centuries have sometimes confused dangerous doctrines with trivial superstitions. When guarding against doctrinal dangers, we tend to “strain a gnat and swallow a camel.” The devil really doesn’t care which extreme distracts us—just as long as he can get you off the main track of truth.

This is what I’ve seen with the current phenomenon known as spiritual formation. Twenty years ago, many of us would not have raised an eyebrow over this term, but today there is a lot of passionate discussion about how this philosophy and practice is infiltrating our churches and leading many astray. If you asked people to describe it more specifically, many might say, “I don’t know exactly what it is, but I know it’s really bad!”

Let me state right off the bat: I have a problem with several spiritual formation practices, especially those that are rooted in Eastern mysticism and lead people to look within themselves for truth, rather than focusing on the Bible as our source of guidance. Many are being duped into practising Eastern forms of meditation in which you “empty yourself,” which could ultimately allow the devil to influence the mind. These so-called spiritual practices are unbiblical and dangerous.

The Wiki definition of spiritual formation says, “The growth and development of the whole person by an intentional focus on one’s spiritual and interior life, interactions with others in ordinary life, and spiritual practices (prayer, the study of scripture, fasting, simplicity, solitude, confession, worship, etc.).” [1]

On the surface, most of this sounds pretty solid. We all should seek to grow spiritually and interact with others. I firmly believe in praying, reading the Bible, and fasting. But there is a growing emphasis among many groups on increasing a focus on the “interior life,” which I believe will ultimately lead you astray. The Bible has nothing good to say about the heart of man. “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?” (Jeremiah 17:9).

Some people have said to me, “But the Bible talks about meditation.” That’s true. But when you study all the passages, you discover there is no recommendation to search within your heart for truth. Rather, you see an emphasis on meditating on God’s law (Psalm 1:2), on the works of God (Psalm 77:12), and on things that are true, noble, just, pure, lovely, and of good report (Philippians 4:8). When we seek some kind of emotional or even sensual (meaning a focus on our senses) experience with God in order to “feel” His presence as a way to confirm truth, we are starting down a pathway that will eventually lead us away from God. We are even at risk when we allow another human to “guide” our meditation. This is not the example Jesus set for us.

I strongly believe that we need to meditate on God’s Word and on His majestic creative works. I think there are times we should seek godly counsel from another mature Christians. But we should not overreact out of fear and quit praying because we might do it in the wrong way! Let’s take a reasonable approach to biblical practices, concentrating on those that will help us grow in the Lord. Please always compare these activities with the solid Word of God.

https://www.amazingfacts.org/news-and-features/af-blog/article/id/11007/t/spiritual-formation--a-self-centered-spiritualism-
 

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Aspects of the spiritual formation movement that we need to be wary of because they involve change of consciousness or altered consciousness.

Contemplative or centring prayer meditation, Breath Prayer, Jesus prayer, Lectio Divina, Labyrinth walking, Spiritual direction, Taize Chanting, Yoga. There are many more but I can't mention them all.
 
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Contemplative Prayer and Meditation
Meditation, or contemplative prayer, is a practice of spiritual formation used for the purpose of personal renewal and peace.

Biblical versus New Age Meditation

New Age meditation, which is creeping its way into mainstream Christianity through the spiritual formation movement, focuses on the stilling and emptying of the mind. Biblical meditation, on the other hand, involves conscious thought about Scripture and its application.

It is dangerous to enter a passive mental state, because in those situations our minds have no protection against falsehood or evil.

"Biblical meditation is having our minds actively engaged on contemplating God's word. James 4:7 says to "submit to God, resist the devil and he will flee from you". Resistance is key to staying sober in mind." "Meditation: Finding the god within," Let Us Reason Ministries

The peace experienced in Christian meditation is not found by deep breathing or looking “within.” Rather, peace comes by looking to God, grasping the knowledge that He is all-powerful and has abundant life in store for us (See Isaiah 40:13-31 and John 10:10). When we thoughtfully consider God’s truth in our minds, the Holy Spirit will begin to change our hearts and lead us to obedience:

"This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success" (Joshua 1:8).


Centering Prayer and Mantras
Centering prayer is one technique many Christians use in an attempt to draw closer to God. It involves meditating on a single word or thought for the purpose of opening the heart up to communion with God. According to a brochure from the King of Peace Episcopal Church, centering prayer is different from New Age meditation, because centering prayer "is not meditation on the word itself."

"Just use the prayer word to keep your mind otherwise blank as you wordlessly spend time with God...Do not give in to endlessly contemplating the sound and meaning of the prayer word. Just say the word within yourself. The goal of Centering Prayer as with other forms of contemplative prayer is to spend time with your loving Creator." Centering Prayer: An Ancient Christian Prayer Form (Kingsland, Georgia: King of Peace Episcopal Church).

Although the goal may be different, centering prayer is still dangerously similar to Eastern meditation. Mantras are used in yoga, Zen, Hindu, and transcendental meditation, as these quotes from New Age websites show:

"Mantra Meditation is a VERY Powerful technique! You will discover that the repetition of Mantra allows your mind to focus and concentrate more completely on sound, and clear away other thoughts, emotions and distractions which divert our energies." "Mediation," Rhea's Rhapsody website.

"The repetition of a mantra…is meant as a method of practice which brings about a power (siddhi) to reach the supreme state of consciousness. In this state there is silence within the mind which becomes still (shaant) and eventually you will merge the mind or individual awareness with the whole, which is Pure Consciousness and Knowingness." "Four Stages of Mantra Meditation," Meditation4Life website.

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I remember that a few years ago, I was going through a checkout line at a grocery store when the few items I purchased rang up to $6.66. The cashier noticed the ominous numbers and gave a small gasp. When I asked her what she thought of that number, she responded, “I don’t know what it means, but I know it’s really bad!”

Christians through the centuries have sometimes confused dangerous doctrines with trivial superstitions. When guarding against doctrinal dangers, we tend to “strain a gnat and swallow a camel.” The devil really doesn’t care which extreme distracts us—just as long as he can get you off the main track of truth.

This is what I’ve seen with the current phenomenon known as spiritual formation. Twenty years ago, many of us would not have raised an eyebrow over this term, but today there is a lot of passionate discussion about how this philosophy and practice is infiltrating our churches and leading many astray. If you asked people to describe it more specifically, many might say, “I don’t know exactly what it is, but I know it’s really bad!”

Let me state right off the bat: I have a problem with several spiritual formation practices, especially those that are rooted in Eastern mysticism and lead people to look within themselves for truth, rather than focusing on the Bible as our source of guidance. Many are being duped into practising Eastern forms of meditation in which you “empty yourself,” which could ultimately allow the devil to influence the mind. These so-called spiritual practices are unbiblical and dangerous.

The Wiki definition of spiritual formation says, “The growth and development of the whole person by an intentional focus on one’s spiritual and interior life, interactions with others in ordinary life, and spiritual practices (prayer, the study of scripture, fasting, simplicity, solitude, confession, worship, etc.).” [1]

On the surface, most of this sounds pretty solid. We all should seek to grow spiritually and interact with others. I firmly believe in praying, reading the Bible, and fasting. But there is a growing emphasis among many groups on increasing a focus on the “interior life,” which I believe will ultimately lead you astray. The Bible has nothing good to say about the heart of man. “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?” (Jeremiah 17:9).

Some people have said to me, “But the Bible talks about meditation.” That’s true. But when you study all the passages, you discover there is no recommendation to search within your heart for truth. Rather, you see an emphasis on meditating on God’s law (Psalm 1:2), on the works of God (Psalm 77:12), and on things that are true, noble, just, pure, lovely, and of good report (Philippians 4:8). When we seek some kind of emotional or even sensual (meaning a focus on our senses) experience with God in order to “feel” His presence as a way to confirm truth, we are starting down a pathway that will eventually lead us away from God. We are even at risk when we allow another human to “guide” our meditation. This is not the example Jesus set for us.

I strongly believe that we need to meditate on God’s Word and on His majestic creative works. I think there are times we should seek godly counsel from another mature Christians. But we should not overreact out of fear and quit praying because we might do it in the wrong way! Let’s take a reasonable approach to biblical practices, concentrating on those that will help us grow in the Lord. Please always compare these activities with the solid Word of God.

https://www.amazingfacts.org/news-and-features/af-blog/article/id/11007/t/spiritual-formation--a-self-centered-spiritualism-
This is good stuff, @phipps . Couldn't agree more.


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Spiritual Direction

Spiritual direction is an ancient practice making a resurgence within the spiritual formation movement.


Background

The practice of training disciples and apprentices was common in Jewish culture even before the time of Christ. When Jesus walked the earth, He gave us an example of servant leadership and discipleship. Spiritual direction has some commonalities with Biblical spiritual apprenticeship, but focuses on the development of mystical practices that Christ never supported.

According to a 2003 Christianity Today articleon the subject, "intimacy with God, not on the solving of clinically identified psychological problems," is the focus of spiritual direction:

"Directees are led to hear the Holy Spirit (the 'real spiritual director') calling them back onto the right path. The director's role is one of coming alongside, rather than dictating a program. The relationship thus shares some features with the Celtic ideal of a 'soul friend' or 'anamchara.'"

"...Spiritual direction as practiced today—especially in the Roman Catholic Church—owes its greatest debt to the founder of the Society of Jesus (the Jesuits), Ignatius of Loyola (1491-1556)." Chris Armstrong and Stephen Gertz, "Got your 'Spiritual Director' Yet?" Christianity Today (April 2003).

Seen today as a replacement—or at least supplement—for "Christian therapy," spiritual direction was originally used by desert mystics who had no bishops to lead them, so instead turned to wiser monks for spiritual guidance.

Unfortunately, unBiblical contemplative practices were fostered in the desert and continue to be spread through today's spiritual directors such as labyrinth prayerspecialist Lauren Artress or Spiritual Directors International, which "offers a place to explore prayer practices, meditation, spiritual experiences, and our growing desire for significance." Spiritual Directors International's website


Spiritual Direction in our Culture

The following quotes from Protestant and Catholic sources promoting spiritual direction show us how popular the practice is becoming:

"But what if you have a spiritual need that another sermon or another counseling session won’t help? What if you want to listen to God more and more fully; and engage God more and more deeply? It could be that you need a spiritual director more than a chaplain or pastor. Sometimes a pastor or chaplain is also a spiritual director. But all pastors and chaplains are not spiritual directors any more than all medical doctors are cardiologists." Brennan Manning, The Signature of Jesus (Multomah, 2004).

"Spiritual direction occurs when one individual (normally identified as a spiritual director) accompanies another person (the spiritual directee) in their journey toward being transformed into the image of Christ. Although it is an ancient practice of the church, it has been largely ignored (until recent years) by many in “evangelical” churches." "Types of Spiritual Direction," A Ruach Journey Blog.

"In the technical sense of the term, spiritual direction is that function of the sacred ministry by which the Church guides the faithful to the attainment of eternal happiness…In one way, the Church requires all her adult members to submit to such private direction, namely, in the Sacrament of Penance. For she entrusts to her priests in the confessional, not only the part of judge to absolve or retain the sins presently confessed, but also the part of a director of consciences. In the latter capacity he must instruct his penitents if ignorant of their duties, point out the wrong or the danger in their conduct, and suggest the proper means to be employed for amendment or improvement." "Spiritual Direction," New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia.

"To share another's experience of God is a gift and a grace for the director, who is as much recipient as is the directee, in this graced relationship of sharing life's process. Two journeys meet at this encounter, and the mystery of deepening union occurs in each. There is a great longing today, for Christians to be able to reflect on their own lives with another person who will continue to listen in faith. My increasing awe and faith and sense of mystery continue to draw me into this ministry, which, I believe, needs to move into a more central place in the Christian experience." Joann Crowley, "Spiritual Direction: Orientation, Direction, Process," Spirituality Today 39 (1987): 100-113.

"The best spiritual directors are highly skilled at 'noticing', listening and attending to the key interior movements in a person's prayer. However this is not just a mystical thing. Because prayer covers all the major areas of one's life, so does spiritual direction...Essentially the spiritual director discerns what Ignatius [Loyola] called the 'movement of spirits', whether good or evil, in the other." "Spiritual Direction: An Idea Whose Time Has Come (Again)," John Mark Ministries Website.

"When life begins to feel unbalanced, and your joy and enthusiasm are drained by an emotional fatigue you cannot name – it’s time to take action! A Spiritual Director is willing to walk alongside of you, to help you see where you are called to be in this time of your life, to help you encounter God in unexpected places and circumstances where you did not expect to find God. You are not alone! A Spiritual Director is a compassionate friend who accompanies you, walks with you, loves you, cries with you, and laughs with you. Spiritual Direction is a way of leading us to see and be attentive to the real Director – the Spirit hidden in the depths of our being."
"Spiritual Direction," Peace Journey Website.


Warnings about Spiritual Directors

Micah 7:5 says, "Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom." Spiritual growth is not dependent on mystical experiences or emotions. If you need a role model, find a godly person who will exhort you to live out Biblical love for God and others, not just teach you rituals.

We can always know the heart of a person based on the fruit their lives produce. Find a mentor whose life is ripe with the fruits of the Holy Spirit and who seeks to be true to God's Word by obeying all of God's Ten Commandments.

And remember that God has sent His Spirit to us to be our Comforter and Counselor. God must always be our source of help and counsel, as He is the only Friend who will never fail us, as Martin Luther reminds us:

"The Spirit is nowhere more present and alive than in His own sacred writings...We must let the Scriptures have the chief place and be its own truest simplest and clearest interpreter...I want Scripture alone to rule, and not to be interpreted according to my spirit or that of any other man, but to be understood in its own light (per seipsam) and according to its own Spirit." Martin Luther, as quoted by Philip S. Watson in the introduction to Martin Luther, The Commentary on Saint Paul’s Epistle to the Galatians (Oregon: Books for the Ages, 1997).


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"It is dangerous to enter a passive mental state, because in those situations our minds have no protection against falsehood or evil."

You have no idea what you're talking about.
 

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Christian Yoga


“Yes to Yoga: Can a Christian breathe air that has been offered to idols?” The title caught my attention in a Christianity Today article:
It’s 7:45 p.m. on a weekday and for the first time today, I consciously slow down my breathing. I send the air deep down into my belly, letting it rise and fall like a wave.

"In...Out...Along with a group of 30 people...I use the unhurried cadences of the air filling and leaving my lungs to lull my muscles and joints into daring postures..."

"Finally—my favorite pose that comes at the end of each workout—a corpse, during which I lay down and relax every muscle."

Now, you may be asking the question, why would Christianity Today publish an article promoting Eastern religion? Yet, the author of the article claims to be an evangelical, born-again Christian. She says yoga draws her closer to Jesus:

"[Y]oga has never had any negative influence on me, and it doesn’t trigger any harmful religious impulses. Just the opposite is true. The three hours a week I spend doing yoga … draw me closer to Christ."

The woman sees yoga as a way to connect with the Holy Spirit, and the breathe in, breathe out repetition is essential:

"Holy Spirit in. Anything that’s not from God out. Come Holy Spirit. Renew my mind. In. Out."

Christian yoga practitioners often claim they cannot be deceived, even though they know what yoga is and where it comes from. The author of the article states this:

"Now, my enthusiasm for yoga doesn’t mean I’m in denial about its Hindu roots...I know that hard-core yogis believe that yoga is more than exercise or a relaxation technique. To them, it’s a religious ritual. But the Hindu gods don’t make it onto my mat. Yoga purists don’t lead classes at mainstream American gyms."

In other words, it’s OK to do yoga if you only do it halfway. But the problem is, you cannot disobey God just halfway—and the demons know it. So what would Jesus say? Can a Christian incorporate Hindu spiritual practices in order to get closer to the Jesus of the Bible? I have a strong suspicion the “Hindu gods” have an agenda to introduce unsuspecting yoga practitioners to a different Jesus.

A most insightful article on this topic comes from a surprising source. The article, titled “There is No Christian Yoga,” is written by Yogi Baba Prem, a Hindu Yogi, a Vedavisharada trained in the traditional gurukural system. Listen to what he has to say about Christian yoga:

"It was quite astonishing to see on the flyer “Christian Yoga! This Thursday night...” I could feel the wheels spinning in my brain. “Christian Yoga,” I thought. Now while Christians can practice yoga, I am not aware of any Christian teachings about yoga. Yoga is not a Judeo/Christian word! … It is a Hindu word, or more correctly a Sanskrit word from the Vedic civilization. So how did we get “Christian Yoga”?..."

"Hinduism should reclaim its full heritage and not allow other groups to rename its sacred teachings under their banner, especially when they have no history of those teaching within their own system. If they wish to “borrow” and say this comes from our brothers and sisters in Hinduism, then that is another thing...Hinduism should guard against its sacred traditions becoming distorted and taken away."

This Hindu yogi resents Christians grabbing Hinduism’s spiritual practice and calling it Christian. His resentment is understandable. How would we feel if there was suddenly a new craze called Hindu communion. We’d say, “Communion is about Jesus Christ. It can’t possibly be called Hindu.” How tragic that a Hindu guru sees the problem, but Christian leaders don’t. In 2006, the same year this article came out, Thomas Nelson, the largest Christian publisher, published a book titled Yoga for Christians. And incredibly enough, many ministries and Christian organizations are selling the book in their bookstores!

https://amazingdiscoveries.org/AD-newsletter-spring-2010-Yoga
 

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Christian Yoga


“Yes to Yoga: Can a Christian breathe air that has been offered to idols?” The title caught my attention in a Christianity Today article:
It’s 7:45 p.m. on a weekday and for the first time today, I consciously slow down my breathing. I send the air deep down into my belly, letting it rise and fall like a wave.

"In...Out...Along with a group of 30 people...I use the unhurried cadences of the air filling and leaving my lungs to lull my muscles and joints into daring postures..."

"Finally—my favorite pose that comes at the end of each workout—a corpse, during which I lay down and relax every muscle."

Now, you may be asking the question, why would Christianity Today publish an article promoting Eastern religion? Yet, the author of the article claims to be an evangelical, born-again Christian. She says yoga draws her closer to Jesus:

"[Y]oga has never had any negative influence on me, and it doesn’t trigger any harmful religious impulses. Just the opposite is true. The three hours a week I spend doing yoga … draw me closer to Christ."

The woman sees yoga as a way to connect with the Holy Spirit, and the breathe in, breathe out repetition is essential:

"Holy Spirit in. Anything that’s not from God out. Come Holy Spirit. Renew my mind. In. Out."

Christian yoga practitioners often claim they cannot be deceived, even though they know what yoga is and where it comes from. The author of the article states this:

"Now, my enthusiasm for yoga doesn’t mean I’m in denial about its Hindu roots...I know that hard-core yogis believe that yoga is more than exercise or a relaxation technique. To them, it’s a religious ritual. But the Hindu gods don’t make it onto my mat. Yoga purists don’t lead classes at mainstream American gyms."

In other words, it’s OK to do yoga if you only do it halfway. But the problem is, you cannot disobey God just halfway—and the demons know it. So what would Jesus say? Can a Christian incorporate Hindu spiritual practices in order to get closer to the Jesus of the Bible? I have a strong suspicion the “Hindu gods” have an agenda to introduce unsuspecting yoga practitioners to a different Jesus.

A most insightful article on this topic comes from a surprising source. The article, titled “There is No Christian Yoga,” is written by Yogi Baba Prem, a Hindu Yogi, a Vedavisharada trained in the traditional gurukural system. Listen to what he has to say about Christian yoga:

"It was quite astonishing to see on the flyer “Christian Yoga! This Thursday night...” I could feel the wheels spinning in my brain. “Christian Yoga,” I thought. Now while Christians can practice yoga, I am not aware of any Christian teachings about yoga. Yoga is not a Judeo/Christian word! … It is a Hindu word, or more correctly a Sanskrit word from the Vedic civilization. So how did we get “Christian Yoga”?..."

"Hinduism should reclaim its full heritage and not allow other groups to rename its sacred teachings under their banner, especially when they have no history of those teaching within their own system. If they wish to “borrow” and say this comes from our brothers and sisters in Hinduism, then that is another thing...Hinduism should guard against its sacred traditions becoming distorted and taken away."

This Hindu yogi resents Christians grabbing Hinduism’s spiritual practice and calling it Christian. His resentment is understandable. How would we feel if there was suddenly a new craze called Hindu communion. We’d say, “Communion is about Jesus Christ. It can’t possibly be called Hindu.” How tragic that a Hindu guru sees the problem, but Christian leaders don’t. In 2006, the same year this article came out, Thomas Nelson, the largest Christian publisher, published a book titled Yoga for Christians. And incredibly enough, many ministries and Christian organizations are selling the book in their bookstores!

https://amazingdiscoveries.org/AD-newsletter-spring-2010-Yoga
Christian Yoga or Holy Yoga is an oxymoron. Been there, done that, so glad I stopped and repented.
 

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"Holy Spirit in. Anything that’s not from God out. Come Holy Spirit. Renew my mind. In. Out."


She claims she commands the Holy Spirit... probably doesn't realize she is doing that, but that is how it appears to me.


"... the Spirit where he willeth doth blow, and his voice thou dost hear, but thou hast not known whence he cometh, and whither he goeth"

JOHN 3:8
 
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I strongly believe that we need to meditate on God’s Word and on His majestic creative works. I think there are times we should seek godly counsel from another mature Christians. But we should not overreact out of fear and quit praying because we might do it in the wrong way! Let’s take a reasonable approach to biblical practices, concentrating on those that will help us grow in the Lord. Please always compare these activities with the solid Word of God.

https://www.amazingfacts.org/news-a...tual-formation--a-self-centered-spiritualism-
These are all fleshy arguments with Scripture thrown in. What you or I strongly believe makes no difference in preaching the Gospel, but preaching the Gospel comes from within...not of the human spirit, but of the Holy Spirit. You must be born again! Really! The man who is indwelled by the Spirit of Christ, preaches out of necessity, because it is not what I decide is my gift from the Spirit, The gifts of the Spirit are of the Spirit that the Spirit may manifest itself in a willing spirit to as many as the Spirit decides how to manifest itself in the Godly man. It is not us, it is the sovereign will of the Spirit working out our calling and election. Men are legends in their own mind and wise unto themselves. (1 Cor. Chapter 12). But those who were blind and could not see, now are changed to (1 Cor. Chapter13) It is supernatural...not carnal.
The WORLD (especially the USA) is on a rapid moral decline. The Judgement and wrath of the God is coming! Christ came to finish the work of the Father to call out the elect. God is not saving this world, He is going to destroy it, But He has sent us a personal sacrifice to all who will accept it in Christ Jesus. And the Father's finished work in behalf of man was finished on the cross, calling out the Church first, and then in time will establish Israel and build up the House of David. And in the end of the beginning, a new heaven and earth. And so we shall be forever with the Lord.
 

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Aspects of the spiritual formation movement that we need to be wary of because they involve change of consciousness or altered consciousness.

Contemplative or centering prayer meditation, Breath Prayer, Jesus prayer, Lectio Divina, Labyrinth walking, Spiritual direction, Taize Chanting, Yoga. There are many more but I can't mention them all.
Very few Christian's would argue that those are wrong, lets go hardcore and add some division. How about weed ( shamanism) , law of attraction, (magic), drugs/medicaments (sorcery). What everyone thinks ? Is altering your soul condition with help of will or using chemical/biological means is sin ? Consciousness can be simply called soul Yes/no ?
 

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Very few Christian's would argue that those are wrong, lets go hardcore and add some division. How about weed ( shamanism) , law of attraction, (magic), drugs/medicaments (sorcery). What everyone thinks ? Is altering your soul condition with help of will or using chemical/biological means is sin ? Consciousness can be simply called soul Yes/no ?
Stirring the pot, are you? :) I would say shamanism, law of attraction (since it's Oprah and New Age), and using drugs and medications in a way to alter one's consciousness is wrong. That being said, I've never tried weed since I've heard it gives one the munchies and I'm already bigger than I want to be. Also, isn't anything that can be addicting and alter consciousness sinful, too? I would posit that this includes processed food, especially those containing sugar and flour, video games, TV, and even the Internet. Basically, is it idolatry? Does it lead one away from God (whatever your consciousness of God is, even though I choose YHVH)? Is it affecting your life and your relationships with other people? Is it possibly giving the devil a foothold? Just some rhetorical questions.
 

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Does it lead one away from God (whatever your consciousness of God is, even though I choose YHVH)?
Choose Jesus and all will be well.

Philippians 2 9"Therefore God exalted Him to the highest place and gave Him the name above all names, 10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
 

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Choose Jesus and all will be well.

Philippians 2 9"Therefore God exalted Him to the highest place and gave Him the name above all names, 10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
I should've said Yeshua, too. I think of YHVH as the 3 in 1--Father/Abba, Yeshua HaMoshiach, Ruach HaKodesh. Some shorten God's name to Yah, which kind of reminds me of Andy Sandberg (SNL) doing his "Ras Trent" sketch, so that's a bit weird for me. :)
 
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